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Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 15 2012 01:41 GMT
#25041
On October 15 2012 10:23 Doraemon wrote:
is there a lot of animosity between sing and black?

Yeah I'm getting a weird vibe as well. I would say after Kiev, Black is 100% off the team. Especially because he didn't play with them today against Karpiv (and they lost).
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 15 2012 01:42 GMT
#25042
On October 15 2012 10:04 RLTY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 09:16 nihoh wrote:
On October 15 2012 07:31 coolcrimefighter wrote:
so I've been pretty successful in matchmaking recently with this new build I've discovered. I thought long and hard about ursa's skills and found out that the recommended build is inefficient. I am an economics major so I am all about optimizing my resources. The dota2 recommended build tells you to rush vladimir's offering on ursa. now 2000+ gold seems like a hefty price to pay for some lifesteal so I decided to go straight heart. If you skip vlads you can just farm 3000 more gold to get a heart. Heart is the perfect item for ursa. The hp it gives helps you do more damage with your ult, and the hp regen ensures that you're always at full health. Heart does not give attack speed but you don't need attack speed anyways with your overpower skill. So heart increases your damage output and your survivability by a lot. Am I the only one that thinks heart is the most important item to rush on ursa?

University of Phoenix?

Something wrong with the University?
I graduated at the top of my class at Pheonix and now I'm making over $1M/year. I've got a orgy of 10 girls are craving for my dick while you're prolly jerking off to that porno of me fucking some girl silly.
Think again before you talk shit about the University again or I'll hire some gay assassins on the deepweb and have them fuck YOU silly.

upvoted

#SWAQ
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 15 2012 01:45 GMT
#25043
SingSing
@BlackDotA2 stop shitty slendershittyman and go scrim, we played like 6 already

@TypicalGatsby @BlackDotA2 kiev in less than 3 days

@Matsuyi we've been playing since like 7 PM CET till now

So I guess he wasn't scrimming with them but doing private stuff instead, which is kinda weird right before a big tournament. Well I'm not suprised.
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 15 2012 01:45 GMT
#25044
On October 15 2012 10:04 RLTY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 09:16 nihoh wrote:
On October 15 2012 07:31 coolcrimefighter wrote:
so I've been pretty successful in matchmaking recently with this new build I've discovered. I thought long and hard about ursa's skills and found out that the recommended build is inefficient. I am an economics major so I am all about optimizing my resources. The dota2 recommended build tells you to rush vladimir's offering on ursa. now 2000+ gold seems like a hefty price to pay for some lifesteal so I decided to go straight heart. If you skip vlads you can just farm 3000 more gold to get a heart. Heart is the perfect item for ursa. The hp it gives helps you do more damage with your ult, and the hp regen ensures that you're always at full health. Heart does not give attack speed but you don't need attack speed anyways with your overpower skill. So heart increases your damage output and your survivability by a lot. Am I the only one that thinks heart is the most important item to rush on ursa?

University of Phoenix?

Something wrong with the University?
I graduated at the top of my class at Pheonix and now I'm making over $1M/year. I've got a orgy of 10 girls are craving for my dick while you're prolly jerking off to that porno of me fucking some girl silly.
Think again before you talk shit about the University again or I'll hire some gay assassins on the deepweb and have them fuck YOU silly.

Damn, went to the wrong university.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 15 2012 01:59 GMT
#25045
On October 15 2012 10:04 RLTY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 09:16 nihoh wrote:
On October 15 2012 07:31 coolcrimefighter wrote:
so I've been pretty successful in matchmaking recently with this new build I've discovered. I thought long and hard about ursa's skills and found out that the recommended build is inefficient. I am an economics major so I am all about optimizing my resources. The dota2 recommended build tells you to rush vladimir's offering on ursa. now 2000+ gold seems like a hefty price to pay for some lifesteal so I decided to go straight heart. If you skip vlads you can just farm 3000 more gold to get a heart. Heart is the perfect item for ursa. The hp it gives helps you do more damage with your ult, and the hp regen ensures that you're always at full health. Heart does not give attack speed but you don't need attack speed anyways with your overpower skill. So heart increases your damage output and your survivability by a lot. Am I the only one that thinks heart is the most important item to rush on ursa?

University of Phoenix?

Something wrong with the University?
I graduated at the top of my class at Pheonix and now I'm making over $1M/year. I've got a orgy of 10 girls are craving for my dick while you're prolly jerking off to that porno of me fucking some girl silly.
Think again before you talk shit about the University again or I'll hire some gay assassins on the deepweb and have them fuck YOU silly.

I think the funniest thing is that he misspelled Phoenix.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 15 2012 02:00 GMT
#25046
Lumi streaming his weekly show: http://www.twitch.tv/luminousinverse
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
October 15 2012 02:06 GMT
#25047
On October 15 2012 10:32 Makenshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 10:04 RLTY wrote:
On October 15 2012 09:16 nihoh wrote:
On October 15 2012 07:31 coolcrimefighter wrote:
so I've been pretty successful in matchmaking recently with this new build I've discovered. I thought long and hard about ursa's skills and found out that the recommended build is inefficient. I am an economics major so I am all about optimizing my resources. The dota2 recommended build tells you to rush vladimir's offering on ursa. now 2000+ gold seems like a hefty price to pay for some lifesteal so I decided to go straight heart. If you skip vlads you can just farm 3000 more gold to get a heart. Heart is the perfect item for ursa. The hp it gives helps you do more damage with your ult, and the hp regen ensures that you're always at full health. Heart does not give attack speed but you don't need attack speed anyways with your overpower skill. So heart increases your damage output and your survivability by a lot. Am I the only one that thinks heart is the most important item to rush on ursa?

University of Phoenix?

Something wrong with the University?
I graduated at the top of my class at Pheonix and now I'm making over $1M/year. I've got a orgy of 10 girls are craving for my dick while you're prolly jerking off to that porno of me fucking some girl silly.
Think again before you talk shit about the University again or I'll hire some gay assassins on the deepweb and have them fuck YOU silly.


You say all that, but are you an economics major? Pfft i bet you can't even optimize those 10 girl orgies properly


Surely you get negative marginal utility after the first 8 girls?
Westy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England808 Posts
October 15 2012 02:08 GMT
#25048
Hey guys

I am new to Dota2 and a big MOBA noob. So would like to ask a question somewhere "noob friendly", not sure if this is the place so let me know if it isn't.

So yea, big moba noob. I am just going to come out and say it, I have always hated "moba's". I have always felt like unless you are playing with a team, that it simply comes down to what hero you pick vs what hero they pick. But obviously with me being a big noobie this opinion is probably completely wrong. And seeing as I recently got into the dota2 beta, and I really don't like the look of HotS right now, I figure I should give Dota2 a proper and unbiased try.

I figure they best thing for me to do would be to learn and master one hero first, and then maybe I would enjoy and understand the game better. So I am here to ask you, what hero should I pick?

I am looking for something that is similar to Draven from LoL. Not very complicated, but with good micro and smart play it can be very effective.

Sorry to "noob up the place", but wasn't sure where to ask!

Thanks
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#25049
Hi and welcome!

The "Welcome to DotA 2" sticky thread has probably lots of useful information for you, including links to some posts discussing that very matter.

Enjoy your stay.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 15 2012 02:13 GMT
#25050
On October 15 2012 11:08 Westy wrote:
Hey guys

I am new to Dota2 and a big MOBA noob. So would like to ask a question somewhere "noob friendly", not sure if this is the place so let me know if it isn't.

So yea, big moba noob. I am just going to come out and say it, I have always hated "moba's". I have always felt like unless you are playing with a team, that it simply comes down to what hero you pick vs what hero they pick. But obviously with me being a big noobie this opinion is probably completely wrong. And seeing as I recently got into the dota2 beta, and I really don't like the look of HotS right now, I figure I should give Dota2 a proper and unbiased try.

I figure they best thing for me to do would be to learn and master one hero first, and then maybe I would enjoy and understand the game better. So I am here to ask you, what hero should I pick?

I am looking for something that is similar to Draven from LoL. Not very complicated, but with good micro and smart play it can be very effective.

Sorry to "noob up the place", but wasn't sure where to ask!

Thanks

1) Dota is NOT a moba. Moba is a riot term. Valve calls it a ARTS.

2) Beginner friendly heroes:

Skeleton King, Venomancer, Chaos Knight, Lion, Sven, Sand King

3) Read this if you have time: http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-dota-you-suck

4) Post here to get help from someone from TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365025
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 02:43:36
October 15 2012 02:42 GMT
#25051
On October 15 2012 11:08 Westy wrote:
Hey guys

I am new to Dota2 and a big MOBA noob. So would like to ask a question somewhere "noob friendly", not sure if this is the place so let me know if it isn't.

So yea, big moba noob. I am just going to come out and say it, I have always hated "moba's". I have always felt like unless you are playing with a team, that it simply comes down to what hero you pick vs what hero they pick. But obviously with me being a big noobie this opinion is probably completely wrong. And seeing as I recently got into the dota2 beta, and I really don't like the look of HotS right now, I figure I should give Dota2 a proper and unbiased try.

I figure they best thing for me to do would be to learn and master one hero first, and then maybe I would enjoy and understand the game better. So I am here to ask you, what hero should I pick?

I am looking for something that is similar to Draven from LoL. Not very complicated, but with good micro and smart play it can be very effective.

Sorry to "noob up the place", but wasn't sure where to ask!

Thanks

Draven from LoL... I think that he's pretty complicated to be honest ... Constant pressing of skills and precise movement, I don't even think any ranged carry like that exists in DotA2 and if one does it definitely wouldn't be a beginner hero. You don't really have many skillspam heroes in DotA like you have in LoL, Invoker being an obvious exception of course.

However you might want to try an orb walker like Clinkz, Drow, or Viper, if you want to go the agi carry route. It might be interesting. Nerubian Weaver might also be fun but he can get a bit complicated.

And yeah read many general guides and also preferably learn to lasthit properly with the hero of your choice(This of course will be obvious to you if you played Draven )
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
October 15 2012 02:51 GMT
#25052
On October 15 2012 10:45 Implenia wrote:
SingSing
Show nested quote +
@BlackDotA2 stop shitty slendershittyman and go scrim, we played like 6 already

Show nested quote +
@TypicalGatsby @BlackDotA2 kiev in less than 3 days

Show nested quote +
@Matsuyi we've been playing since like 7 PM CET till now

So I guess he wasn't scrimming with them but doing private stuff instead, which is kinda weird right before a big tournament. Well I'm not suprised.
SingSing said right after TI2 on stream, this was when Black had 'left', that Black and CWM were always the ones who didn't show up to practice or didn't want to practice. CWM I'm not too surprised about, but before he said that I figured Black was the kind of person who would want to scrim the most.
Once you Goblak...
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
October 15 2012 03:26 GMT
#25053
On October 15 2012 11:13 Implenia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:08 Westy wrote:
Hey guys

I am new to Dota2 and a big MOBA noob. So would like to ask a question somewhere "noob friendly", not sure if this is the place so let me know if it isn't.

So yea, big moba noob. I am just going to come out and say it, I have always hated "moba's". I have always felt like unless you are playing with a team, that it simply comes down to what hero you pick vs what hero they pick. But obviously with me being a big noobie this opinion is probably completely wrong. And seeing as I recently got into the dota2 beta, and I really don't like the look of HotS right now, I figure I should give Dota2 a proper and unbiased try.

I figure they best thing for me to do would be to learn and master one hero first, and then maybe I would enjoy and understand the game better. So I am here to ask you, what hero should I pick?

I am looking for something that is similar to Draven from LoL. Not very complicated, but with good micro and smart play it can be very effective.

Sorry to "noob up the place", but wasn't sure where to ask!

Thanks

1) Dota is NOT a moba. Moba is a riot term. Valve calls it a ARTS.

2) Beginner friendly heroes:

Skeleton King, Venomancer, Chaos Knight, Lion, Sven, Sand King

3) Read this if you have time: http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-dota-you-suck

4) Post here to get help from someone from TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365025

Moba is a Riot originated term, that doesn't make Dota not a Moba. It's pretty widely used and understood term despite people being defensive against its use.
twitter: @terrancem
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
October 15 2012 03:31 GMT
#25054
On October 15 2012 12:26 GogoKodo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:13 Implenia wrote:
On October 15 2012 11:08 Westy wrote:
Hey guys

I am new to Dota2 and a big MOBA noob. So would like to ask a question somewhere "noob friendly", not sure if this is the place so let me know if it isn't.

So yea, big moba noob. I am just going to come out and say it, I have always hated "moba's". I have always felt like unless you are playing with a team, that it simply comes down to what hero you pick vs what hero they pick. But obviously with me being a big noobie this opinion is probably completely wrong. And seeing as I recently got into the dota2 beta, and I really don't like the look of HotS right now, I figure I should give Dota2 a proper and unbiased try.

I figure they best thing for me to do would be to learn and master one hero first, and then maybe I would enjoy and understand the game better. So I am here to ask you, what hero should I pick?

I am looking for something that is similar to Draven from LoL. Not very complicated, but with good micro and smart play it can be very effective.

Sorry to "noob up the place", but wasn't sure where to ask!

Thanks

1) Dota is NOT a moba. Moba is a riot term. Valve calls it a ARTS.

2) Beginner friendly heroes:

Skeleton King, Venomancer, Chaos Knight, Lion, Sven, Sand King

3) Read this if you have time: http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-dota-you-suck

4) Post here to get help from someone from TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365025

Moba is a Riot originated term, that doesn't make Dota not a Moba. It's pretty widely used and understood term despite people being defensive against its use.


People are defensive against its use for a reason.. it's a shitty term coined by a shitty person.
There's no reason to call any game a moba, ever.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 03:43:41
October 15 2012 03:43 GMT
#25055
Discussing what moba means should be offtopic in this thread.
its the same awful discussion over and over.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 15 2012 04:07 GMT
#25056
On October 15 2012 12:43 PassiveAce wrote:
Discussing what moba means should be offtopic in this thread.
its the same awful discussion over and over.

i learn something new everytime
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 04:12:55
October 15 2012 04:12 GMT
#25057
One of the hardest parts of Dota is last hitting since every hero has a unique attack feel and projectile speed. Westy just pick a simple hero like Lich and have fun.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
October 15 2012 04:18 GMT
#25058
On October 15 2012 13:12 Slardar wrote:
One of the hardest parts of Dota is last hitting since every hero has a unique attack feel and projectile speed. Westy just pick a simple hero like Lich and have fun.


Yeah, trying to last hit (for the first time) with heroes like Sniper (stop doesnt work), Razor (delayed damage), and like Clinkz (lobbing arrow of doooom). It gets to be interesting how they all play so differently.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
October 15 2012 04:40 GMT
#25059
On October 15 2012 11:08 Westy wrote:
Hey guys

I am new to Dota2 and a big MOBA noob. So would like to ask a question somewhere "noob friendly", not sure if this is the place so let me know if it isn't.

So yea, big moba noob. I am just going to come out and say it, I have always hated "moba's". I have always felt like unless you are playing with a team, that it simply comes down to what hero you pick vs what hero they pick. But obviously with me being a big noobie this opinion is probably completely wrong. And seeing as I recently got into the dota2 beta, and I really don't like the look of HotS right now, I figure I should give Dota2 a proper and unbiased try.

I figure they best thing for me to do would be to learn and master one hero first, and then maybe I would enjoy and understand the game better. So I am here to ask you, what hero should I pick?

I am looking for something that is similar to Draven from LoL. Not very complicated, but with good micro and smart play it can be very effective.

Sorry to "noob up the place", but wasn't sure where to ask!

Thanks


My lizard brain thinks this is a troll
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
October 15 2012 04:43 GMT
#25060
I was just in a pub where a shadow fiend got 3 rapiers. He was killing heroes in almost 1 hit without and crits. I haven't seen anything like that in DOTA 2 before.
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