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BeanerBurrito
Profile Joined December 2010
1010 Posts
October 09 2012 21:09 GMT
#24181
Whoa whoa whoa, ok people are just starting to play alchemist for more than a joke, let's take that blessing as it is before starting to wonder if he can fit into a bunch of different playstyles lol.

I mean, just because one COULD gank with alchemist, doesn't mean you have to, and it doesn't even mean that you SHOULD.

Just look at the skill goblins greed, it gives you the same extra gold for killing a creep, as killing a hero, there are many more creeps than heroes, therefore you get the most out of your best farming spell from killing creeps.

Outside of his stun, which is pretty awkward of a skill, he isn't made for ganking, even if he is able because he does have his awkward stun.

In a game you WANT to have alchemist free farming if at all possible, you would always want that much more than you would want him ganking.

What they say: "I'm gonna play support!" What they mean: "I'm gonna feed all game!"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 09 2012 21:09 GMT
#24182
On October 10 2012 06:06 rabidch wrote:
who cares if everywhere on your screen is gold...

I swear, that gold sound for creep kills is so satisfying.

Can't even go back to other AoS cuz it just feels so unsatisfying to lasthit without that sound.
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Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 09 2012 21:20 GMT
#24183
The article from m5 that tobi just talked about http://moscowfive.ru/en/news/sltv-3-a-manager-s-view-eng
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 09 2012 21:20 GMT
#24184
On October 10 2012 06:20 Implenia wrote:
The article from m5 that tobi just talked about http://moscowfive.ru/en/news/sltv-3-a-manager-s-view-eng

wrong thread.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 09 2012 21:30 GMT
#24185
On October 10 2012 06:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 06:06 rabidch wrote:
who cares if everywhere on your screen is gold...

I swear, that gold sound for creep kills is so satisfying.

Can't even go back to other AoS cuz it just feels so unsatisfying to lasthit without that sound.


It used to piss me off, but now I cant live without it. Its my ringtone... not really.
High Risk Low Reward
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 09 2012 21:37 GMT
#24186
Can someone make it into an mp3? I want it for my cellphone for when i get a text. :D
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 09 2012 21:58 GMT
#24187
So axe's ulti kills through dazzles skill "shallow grave" is this intended?
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 22:02:51
October 09 2012 21:59 GMT
#24188
I'm not quite sure how Razor will hold up competitively.....Brew does the anti-carry job a lot better. While the main anti-carry mechanic of razor is the static link, the higher up carry list is littered with cloning heroes or manta holders. That is the only problem of Razers....I could see him as a really good situational pick though!

My money is on PL being the next hero to the top of the competitive charts. We shall see!

@Axe - Yeah, his "axe" goes through everything.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 09 2012 22:00 GMT
#24189
On October 10 2012 06:58 Infernal_dream wrote:
So axe's ulti kills through dazzles skill "shallow grave" is this intended?

Yup.

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 09 2012 22:08 GMT
#24190
On October 10 2012 07:00 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 06:58 Infernal_dream wrote:
So axe's ulti kills through dazzles skill "shallow grave" is this intended?

Yup.

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR


one of the most satisfying things you can do.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 09 2012 22:09 GMT
#24191
On October 10 2012 06:58 Infernal_dream wrote:
So axe's ulti kills through dazzles skill "shallow grave" is this intended?

From Culling Blade's skill description:
The killing blow removes all buffs from the target unit before killing it.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 09 2012 22:09 GMT
#24192
On October 10 2012 06:58 Infernal_dream wrote:
So axe's ulti kills through dazzles skill "shallow grave" is this intended?

If the target is below the health treshold EVERYTHING is dispelled from the target and they are instantly killed.
Even BKB will be dispelled.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 09 2012 22:11 GMT
#24193
On October 10 2012 07:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 06:58 Infernal_dream wrote:
So axe's ulti kills through dazzles skill "shallow grave" is this intended?

From Culling Blade's skill description:
Show nested quote +
The killing blow removes all buffs from the target unit before killing it.


Isn't Shallow Grave a triggered heal as well? So even if it didn't remove all buffs it would still kill the target because Axe's ult does an absurd amount of damage? Not really relevant, I know, just thinking about it.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
October 09 2012 22:13 GMT
#24194
On October 10 2012 07:11 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 07:09 TheYango wrote:
On October 10 2012 06:58 Infernal_dream wrote:
So axe's ulti kills through dazzles skill "shallow grave" is this intended?

From Culling Blade's skill description:
The killing blow removes all buffs from the target unit before killing it.


Isn't Shallow Grave a triggered heal as well? So even if it didn't remove all buffs it would still kill the target because Axe's ult does an absurd amount of damage? Not really relevant, I know, just thinking about it.


nah that's only in hon
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 22:13:30
October 09 2012 22:13 GMT
#24195
edit: nm
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 09 2012 22:13 GMT
#24196
So yeah if you guys Are NOT in very high bracket every game and want to play dota 2, i recommend playing with 5 people or not at all, normal-high full of people who are just awful have have no desire to improve or even win games.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 09 2012 22:13 GMT
#24197
The way how shadow blade it coded it can only "heal" as much as the hero has hp.

Culling blade deals way more than any hero could possible archieve
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 09 2012 22:15 GMT
#24198
On October 10 2012 07:13 Yoshi- wrote:
The way how shadow blade it coded it can only "heal" as much as the hero has hp.

Culling blade deals way more than any hero could possible archieve


as anybody who's ever had the old spectre disperse culling blade will tell you
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 22:17:52
October 09 2012 22:17 GMT
#24199
On October 10 2012 07:13 wooozy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 07:11 SKC wrote:
On October 10 2012 07:09 TheYango wrote:
On October 10 2012 06:58 Infernal_dream wrote:
So axe's ulti kills through dazzles skill "shallow grave" is this intended?

From Culling Blade's skill description:
The killing blow removes all buffs from the target unit before killing it.


Isn't Shallow Grave a triggered heal as well? So even if it didn't remove all buffs it would still kill the target because Axe's ult does an absurd amount of damage? Not really relevant, I know, just thinking about it.


nah that's only in hon


http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=729797

It seems you can die while shallow graved by getting a huge crit from Mortred, so I assume it is indeed a triggered heal. Do they even have triggered heals in HoN? Seems unnecessary considering they developed their own engine.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 09 2012 22:17 GMT
#24200
On October 10 2012 07:13 PrinceXizor wrote:
So yeah if you guys Are NOT in very high bracket every game and want to play dota 2, i recommend playing with 5 people or not at all, normal-high full of people who are just awful have have no desire to improve or even win games.


you can get to very high by playing with bads. 80% of my mm games are with 1 or 2 of my terrible friends who builds crit on every hero and i random in ap always. if i q with them we get put in high. if i q alone i get put in veryhigh. apparently the game takes in account other factors besides win/loss.

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