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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 22:27:53
October 09 2012 22:21 GMT
#24201
About Alchemist:
If you´re going to use his stun at all, you might as well make items that work good with it(Dagger and Shadowblade seem theoretically the best way to get it off).
Beyond that there seem to be 3 viewpoints. Go full farm, go full ganking or do a mix of both. I could see a way to do the mix one. Dagger or Sblade would already be enough to catch and stun a target by surprise and start in melee range. The skills could easily be full farmmode. Shadowblade gives backstab, attackspeed and damage, which give you a lot of momentum by itself.
If a single player from your team is ganking with you(which btw should be the case, solo ganking is dangerous yo.), your intiation with 1.75+ seconds stun and high dps in melee range should be more than enough from your part to take down a single guy out of position.

Might be wrong here because in my not high level games our jungle is usually overfarmed instead of prestacked for my farming pleasure.

On October 10 2012 07:11 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 07:09 TheYango wrote:
On October 10 2012 06:58 Infernal_dream wrote:
So axe's ulti kills through dazzles skill "shallow grave" is this intended?

From Culling Blade's skill description:
The killing blow removes all buffs from the target unit before killing it.


Isn't Shallow Grave a triggered heal as well? So even if it didn't remove all buffs it would still kill the target because Axe's ult does an absurd amount of damage? Not really relevant, I know, just thinking about it.

If I recall correctly(and it wasn´t changed in the meantime) Culling Blade does 99999999999 or so (physical?) damage when target is under the threshold. Just to be sure. Triggered heals can heal only to the maximum HP of a hero anyway, so your max HP would need to come close to that number. The exact number is btw still high enough to do beyond 100k damage to someone with 1000 armor(omni ult). Is that still correct though?
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 09 2012 22:27 GMT
#24202
alchs stun is not worth getting blink or lothars for.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 09 2012 22:32 GMT
#24203
btw, for those of you who have a team scriming and like to experimenting with new picks: Clock maxing cog support lane by mana drain. I tested in pub and it works quite effectively.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 09 2012 22:33 GMT
#24204
Nah man you get Dagger on Alchemist so you can make plays like @ 4:13:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDU5ODI5ODky.html
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Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 09 2012 22:50 GMT
#24205
On October 10 2012 07:27 aintz wrote:
alchs stun is not worth getting blink or lothars for.

Why?
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
October 09 2012 22:55 GMT
#24206
On October 10 2012 07:50 Implenia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 07:27 aintz wrote:
alchs stun is not worth getting blink or lothars for.

Why?


So true buy a silence stick!
FADC
sraelgaiznaer
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines423 Posts
October 09 2012 22:57 GMT
#24207
anyone watching talkdota right now? did xboct really leave navi for mym? :/
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 09 2012 23:01 GMT
#24208
On October 10 2012 07:57 sraelgaiznaer wrote:
anyone watching talkdota right now? did xboct really leave navi for mym? :/


I missed that, sucks listening at work. ~_~


I think it would be a positive to Na'Vi. Xboct weakest player overall but his insane play did mesh well. If they can find a better skilled hard carry who can adapt to big plays Na'Vi they should be better off. If ppy said this it's probably a troll though, I'm pretty sure Link joined MYM as the carry. Also MYM is a danish team, not sure why XBOCT would go to them. Doesn't really make sense at alllllllll.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 09 2012 23:05 GMT
#24209
On October 10 2012 07:50 Implenia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 07:27 aintz wrote:
alchs stun is not worth getting blink or lothars for.

Why?


because its not hard to land unless you're one of those ppl who try to go for max duration.

2150 gold can be put to much better use.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 09 2012 23:06 GMT
#24210
no... he was just trolling.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
pap0t
Profile Joined August 2012
Philippines279 Posts
October 09 2012 23:10 GMT
#24211
GL to team TL on the Staff Cup

Heyoka, HotBid, Bumblebee, Flamewheel, and Kipsate
Ownage, maybe?
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
October 09 2012 23:14 GMT
#24212
They abusing the system and using Kipsate. I vote to file an official complaint.
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 09 2012 23:14 GMT
#24213
On October 10 2012 08:10 pap0t wrote:
GL to team TL on the Staff Cup

Heyoka, HotBid, Bumblebee, Flamewheel, and Kipsate

If anyone is wondering, it is on the 12th

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374303
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 09 2012 23:17 GMT
#24214
Steam down?
High Risk Low Reward
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
October 09 2012 23:17 GMT
#24215
On October 10 2012 08:17 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Steam down?


I believe so.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
October 09 2012 23:22 GMT
#24216
Just went down for me........great! Was about to play some Doto.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 09 2012 23:22 GMT
#24217
On October 10 2012 08:22 Slardar wrote:
Just went down for me........great! Was about to play some Doto.


I was about to game on some children. How unfortunate :/
High Risk Low Reward
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
October 09 2012 23:25 GMT
#24218
On October 10 2012 08:17 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Steam down?


Yes :/ and i wasa wining a game right now .. :/
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 23:27:04
October 09 2012 23:26 GMT
#24219
Anyone know for how long?

Edit: wtf already back?
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
October 09 2012 23:30 GMT
#24220
man da fuck i was like 40-0-100 drow ranger oh well i guess that game is lost gg
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
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