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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 08 2012 17:14 GMT
#23921
I only get sny on sb. Max movementspeed ftw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
sraelgaiznaer
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines423 Posts
October 08 2012 17:30 GMT
#23922
is there a thread here where we can look who is online on what server so we can team up and play some mm together? solo queuing is hard im not good but i play against people infinitely better than me but my team mates are like me too. what the hell is wrong with this match making system. lol.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 08 2012 17:31 GMT
#23923
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359638

Just add some people from your own server.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 08 2012 17:31 GMT
#23924
People complaining about MM are probably within range of where new people start, there was a large influx it seems
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sraelgaiznaer
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines423 Posts
October 08 2012 17:32 GMT
#23925
thanks blitzser
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 08 2012 17:40 GMT
#23926
HOLY SHIT! Razor new purge is fucking strong.... The purge duration is HUGE, you are pretty much ensared for 1 second without moving. With the current meta having Naix as hard carry, i could see razor being a GREAT pickup to counter. Cant wait until he got used by pro team.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 08 2012 17:43 GMT
#23927
On S&Y, I think the problem is the passive Maim really sucks. I mean it's a very weak slow with very low proc chance. Buff it to last longer and have 25% chance so it's actually noticeable. As it is I noticed it mean anything like 5 times in my entire dota carrier , mostly coz it used to be core on my Drow Ranger super long time ago when manta gave manaburn and it let me kill people with magic immunity coz they couldn't run anyway
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 08 2012 17:48 GMT
#23928
Well now i know why Broodmother has one of the lowest winrates in the game in pubs. -.- No one pushes, so the enemy team gets to put 4 people on the brood every time they reach a tower, and when "people go missing" on the map to obviously stop the BM push, everyone plays retarded passive.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 08 2012 17:56 GMT
#23929
Medium bots fucking suck. Tried to see how Doom jungle works out.

Game #1 DAZZLE BOT BLOCKS BOTH THE BIG AND MEDIUM CAMP ON RADIANT SIDE. k, np, random accident.

Game #2 Big camp Radiant side has 4 or 5 stacks, I'm clearing it with tornado. Prophet bot comes to "gank bottom", presses Q on my camp to finish it.

Scumbag bots.

-_-
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
October 08 2012 17:59 GMT
#23930
On October 09 2012 02:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
Well now i know why Broodmother has one of the lowest winrates in the game in pubs. -.- No one pushes, so the enemy team gets to put 4 people on the brood every time they reach a tower, and when "people go missing" on the map to obviously stop the BM push, everyone plays retarded passive.

Whenever I see 4+ people on my lane I aggressively ping the enemy towers on the empty lanes in the faint hope that maybe my team will push those. Works about 50% of the time.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 08 2012 18:05 GMT
#23931
On October 09 2012 02:56 r.Evo wrote:
Medium bots fucking suck. Tried to see how Doom jungle works out.

Game #1 DAZZLE BOT BLOCKS BOTH THE BIG AND MEDIUM CAMP ON RADIANT SIDE. k, np, random accident.

Game #2 Big camp Radiant side has 4 or 5 stacks, I'm clearing it with tornado. Prophet bot comes to "gank bottom", presses Q on my camp to finish it.

Scumbag bots.

-_-

Testing jungle is better in empty games, bots don't gank jungle a lot anyway and it's not like it matters, just give yourself 150 gold for a courier with cheats
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 08 2012 18:14 GMT
#23932
When i go to test stuff in bot games my allies become pants on head retarded. Bots push as 5 in 1 lane, allies run into bots one by one without doing anything. Bots then push 2 towers, this repeats till bots eventually take rax 20 minutes in.
Happens anytime i pick a hard carry to test something, lmfao.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 08 2012 18:35 GMT
#23933
Sny is 200 gold cheaper as of 6.75 (recipe costs on sange/yasha reduced by 100) and no longer an orb as of a while ago. It's a great pub item on a lot of heroes and can be completed at a nice timing as a 2nd item on a carry. There are very few heroes who benefit from both halberd + manta but it does disassemble into them now once the other components are completed so then you're left with a sange + manta or halberd + yasha, etc.

Sny, skadi, lifesteal can be a brutal combination on any ranged agility hero as Sny maim stacks with skadi (just need the attack speed to get it off). Whether or not it's advisable in a competitive setting is a different question, but it's certainly worthwhile in pubs.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 08 2012 18:37 GMT
#23934
For the jungling doom, have the idiot mate tried it out just now, 6mins midas despite he went back base once because low mana and get radiance at around 17min (and he died once due to couple of ganks before that). I am sure people know the pros and cons by doing that, suggest not to do it with less than 2 people stack. That game was one of the hardest games of my life because i went hardlane so we were relying on randomers to 3v2 on mid/bot and they failed plus there is an oppo furion. Ewww.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
October 08 2012 18:49 GMT
#23935
On October 08 2012 17:47 LAN-f34r wrote:
Alch is a bad pub hero because pubs don't know how to rice all day. We have yet to see if he will make an impact on the competitive scene


alch is a good pub hero cause:
very high start and ult hp
decent on lane. atleast much better then many others that can reach his late dps.
with lothars hes a GREAT ganker. both solo(as said,pretty much nyx combo just better,evry lone support is a free kill) and with others which is important with the killreward buffs.
hes a GREAT and versatile farmer. ult/spray lets him jungle efficient midgame.
hes a beast lategame only few can beat.

overall hes rather self sufficient, is versatile, has high hp ,some utility(stun,armor debuff) and scales super well.

in many areas there are others which do that job better and when playing organised some of that isnt that important. but in pubs he got it all.

also new lothars is just great on him.apart from evrything else the amulet already lets you setup traps since you can start stun in meld.

On October 08 2012 19:22 Yoshi- wrote:
Don't play alch as a ganker, when all his spells are either farming spells or scale extremly well with items


considering the high killrewards and how well he ganks midgame you shouldnt ignore his ganking potential. but ofc if you have the opportunity to just farm.
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Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
October 08 2012 19:04 GMT
#23936
so who's on NTH other than Black + Admiral Sylla?
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
October 08 2012 19:06 GMT
#23937
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 08 2012 19:24 GMT
#23938
Eternal Envy especially is very very good. his support won games alone pretty frequently.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 08 2012 19:38 GMT
#23939
Remember, killing heroes on alchemist ALSO gives u goblin's greed gold!
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
October 08 2012 20:07 GMT
#23940
On October 09 2012 02:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
Well now i know why Broodmother has one of the lowest winrates in the game in pubs. -.- No one pushes, so the enemy team gets to put 4 people on the brood every time they reach a tower, and when "people go missing" on the map to obviously stop the BM push, everyone plays retarded passive.

Part of that is your problem. Why are you pushing a tower when 4 enemy heroes are missing especially if you know the low skill pub mentality is to gank train a Brood ? Put spiderlings around your area and farm safely in jungle till an opportunity to push arises.

On October 09 2012 04:24 PrinceXizor wrote:
Eternal Envy especially is very very good. his support won games alone pretty frequently.

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