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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 06 2012 00:29 GMT
#23561
lol the PL discussion was fun to read XD
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 06 2012 00:33 GMT
#23562
In paikyo's honor, I will be playing PL drunk for the next hour or two.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 06 2012 00:34 GMT
#23563
On October 06 2012 09:24 Nevuk wrote:
Have any 6.75b dota 2 pro games been casted yet? Or just happened and available to watch? I'm really curious about the changes the patch is going to have competitively.

there were a scrim between Zenith and MiTH-trust that was streamed via ICE^3 stream.
Picks are:
Zenith: naga treant bat tide enigma
MiTH-trust: CK visage venom invoker TA

Quite a sick game imo. look up the vods in iceiceice stream.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 06 2012 00:48 GMT
#23564
Seeing visage picked makes me happy.
Return of the king of trilanes.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 06 2012 01:07 GMT
#23565
http://www.twitch.tv/iceiceice/b/334505856 55 minutesish for draft. 59 game starts
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9053 Posts
October 06 2012 01:19 GMT
#23566
Xin is still OP. New Jugg is so damn good. New Edict sucks more than I thought.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 01:33:25
October 06 2012 01:32 GMT
#23567
I think Edict used to have a cast animation like 6-7 years ago. I don't really remember too well, but possibly why back then everyone went lightning.
Once you Goblak...
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 06 2012 02:06 GMT
#23568
Actually Necro scales pretty well into the lategame for a caster, not ds level ofc but both scythe and heartstopper works on a hp% based. Heartstopper aura's damage being hp removal means you're still an asshole once they get pipe. He just only works with certain lineup ~~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
October 06 2012 02:09 GMT
#23569
k, Just played my 1st Dota game and what do you do when noone buys anything for the team? I bought wards and courier and the start and later had to buy flying courier. When the game ended I had pretty much nothing in worth of gold because I was ganking/warding the entire map and our teams fed riki was lvl 20 when I was lvl 13(?).

Also i'm wondering how do you keep up on levels and get some gold as support? and what are your priorities in a game(like gankgankgank or stay and support in lane)? I was playing visage if it matters.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 02:18:59
October 06 2012 02:14 GMT
#23570
That's how it goes on support--level 13 when a strong ganking carry like Riki is 20 isn't too uncommon. Your gold will be enhanced if you make sure you're in every fight, especially since this week's patch. You can't do much if no one else on your team will buy that stuff except ask them nicely to help out.

As for leveling, you can leech XP off others' farm sometimes, you can jungle a little on your own, and again, make sure you're involved in kills. Efficiency can also be helped by making sure you're using the courier to bring you stuff instead of going back to base. Particularly make sure you know what's in the side and secret shops so you don't accidentally spend courier time on stuff that can be bought from there, nor walk all the way back to base. That kind of thing will make sure you can stay in XP range a greater % of the time.

It sounds like you did well overall. It's important to keep a cool head when stuff like that happens because it's not always the end of the world.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 06 2012 02:17 GMT
#23571
dont pick visage in a low level game, he needs team play to be effective
you get gold and levels by stacking jungle camps and pulling lane creeps to them when your wave is pushed out too far
your priorities in a game depend on what hero you are playing, certain heroes are suited to roam and gank like VS while other supports like lich are much more defensive and just control the creep wave while babysitting
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Der_Magen
Profile Joined April 2009
182 Posts
October 06 2012 02:27 GMT
#23572
On October 06 2012 10:07 Nevuk wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/iceiceice/b/334505856 55 minutesish for draft. 59 game starts


Are they talking in English all the time or are they also talking in another language? I can only understand about 20% of their conversation during the game and draft. lol
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 02:32:34
October 06 2012 02:31 GMT
#23573
So when did they change the unpause function? Now the opponents can unpause after 5s? Fucking rubick kept unpausing even after we paused for their afk. Their own player was apologetic. Still crushed him, felt fucking good.

On October 06 2012 11:27 Der_Magen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:07 Nevuk wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/iceiceice/b/334505856 55 minutesish for draft. 59 game starts


Are they talking in English all the time or are they also talking in another language? I can only understand about 20% of their conversation during the game and draft. lol

Welcome to singlish.
=Þ
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 02:32:22
October 06 2012 02:31 GMT
#23574
On October 06 2012 11:27 Der_Magen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:07 Nevuk wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/iceiceice/b/334505856 55 minutesish for draft. 59 game starts


Are they talking in English all the time or are they also talking in another language? I can only understand about 20% of their conversation during the game and draft. lol


English is an official language in singapore so prob English, but singaporean english (aka singlish) can be pretty tough to understand
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 03:07:12
October 06 2012 03:06 GMT
#23575
Oh ya, I was on dire's hard lane, do i stack the radiant camp closest and just use that?

And my item build was probably kinda retarded, I got wards and courier, 2 gg branches, healing salve.and ring of protection into some other things like ring of regen and eventually power treads and a mek. I'm thinking that I should've got arcane boots since we didnt have any. Am i guessing right or are treads good on supports for the stats?

Edit: I also built a medallion for the mana regen lol
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 06 2012 03:17 GMT
#23576
running a team for the UWaterloo LAN tournament... it is so weird when you have to pick according to the player instead of the meta game... now i feel Zenith and Loda pain in TI2
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Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
October 06 2012 03:17 GMT
#23577
On October 06 2012 12:06 LazyFailKid wrote:
Oh ya, I was on dire's hard lane, do i stack the radiant camp closest and just use that?

And my item build was probably kinda retarded, I got wards and courier, 2 gg branches, healing salve.and ring of protection into some other things like ring of regen and eventually power treads and a mek. I'm thinking that I should've got arcane boots since we didnt have any. Am i guessing right or are treads good on supports for the stats?

Edit: I also built a medallion for the mana regen lol



Since it's your first time in Dota, I recommend following the "recommended items" for each hero for now until you gain enough experience to move onto more appropriate item builds for each individual hero. Also, just a friendly advice is to not play Visage at your level because he's very difficult for beginners to use and pretty much force your team to 4v5 if you do not utilize Visage and its familiars properly.
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
October 06 2012 03:25 GMT
#23578
I'd rather get the hard heroes out of the way at the start where everyone else isn't very good rather then play the easier heroes and have difficulties switching over when i'm versing better players lol
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 03:29:46
October 06 2012 03:28 GMT
#23579
Any advice with Lycan on lane?
Lycanthrope was a guilty pleasure of mine ever since his big overhaul(when he became jungle material and his ulti became autohasted).
Tried it once, but Basi or Vlad are insufficient for the wolf mana cost and you have to tank with your hero fulltime. Nerfed so hard. It feels like going wolfless would be the better jungle build now until you have vlads.

Anyway I never played him on lane in years. I´m too afraid to actually pick him, as his very old laning was fucking awful.
Suddenly Bounty Hunter is my guilty pleasure hero thanks to the shadowblade guide. Just played him 6 times in a row and now I´m proficient at playing him.
On October 06 2012 12:25 LazyFailKid wrote:
I'd rather get the hard heroes out of the way at the start where everyone else isn't very good rather then play the easier heroes and have difficulties switching over when i'm versing better players lol

Is that so? Try Meepo or Invoker, then come back and let us recommend Sven to you.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 06 2012 03:31 GMT
#23580
On October 06 2012 12:25 LazyFailKid wrote:
I'd rather get the hard heroes out of the way at the start where everyone else isn't very good rather then play the easier heroes and have difficulties switching over when i'm versing better players lol

it is quite hard to pick in a non-professional team when the tournament actually has professional players competing. Me myself didnt really care about winning but to have good game we need some good heroes and execution from the start. Like i cant pick invoker for our mid solo, cant pick naga for our farm carry.... things are just so... weird. We finally end up with something like Lina solomid in practice which pretty much make no sense but somehow we won bc our players know what they were doing...
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