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On October 06 2012 00:59 flamewheel wrote:
With the new AGI gain Vanguard + Radiance could see more playtime on PL. But PMS + Vit Booster + Tranquil (still statistically better than Vanguard) into Radiance is smoother and still allows you to fight decently early on.
PMS makes no sense on PL, just stout shield if that. After tranquil + soul ring tha stout shield becomes a wasted slot so I don't really know if it's worth delaying that pre-core
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Why would you go soul ring when you are farming?
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Soul ring for lance spam I would guess?
I myself get RoA on PL. He NEEDS some kind of mana regen
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On October 06 2012 01:19 Yoshi- wrote:
Why would you go soul ring when you are farming?
I wouldn't, I'd probably rush straight radiance with nothing for a 13min radiance etc.
However if you do need to lane like in pubs, tranquil + soul ring lets you win it against just about anything I think
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On October 06 2012 01:19 Yoshi- wrote:
Why would you go soul ring when you are farming?
It can be worth it if u have a vit booster actually, because then u can just dopple + nuke a camp and have the illusions finish it off to increase farm, though I doubt shikyo is capable of something like that
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I was midmaster in SC2 hey o_O You think I can't control 2 units at once?
Though 2 illus aren't enough to finish a large camp early on without ult
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United Kingdom38257 Posts
Ice³ has been fun to watch today. Lots of the newly tweaked heroes + Magnus. Just got done with PL and playing alch now.
Also 110k people in dota atm, didn't realise there were that many players on a daily basis already o_O
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On October 06 2012 01:29 Asha` wrote:
Ice³ has been fun to watch today. Lots of the newly tweaked heroes + Magnus. Just got done with PL and playing alch now.
Also 110k people in dota atm, didn't realise there were that many players on a daily basis already o_O
After every major patch there's many more players, expect even more on sunday. It's just like TF2
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On October 06 2012 01:22 Kupon3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 01:19 Yoshi- wrote:
Why would you go soul ring when you are farming? It can be worth it if u have a vit booster actually, because then u can just dopple + nuke a camp and have the illusions finish it off to increase farm, though I doubt shikyo is capable of something like that
Aquilla should take care of pretty much every mana that pl needs
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Netherlands45349 Posts
I like Aq Tranq PMS Vit into Radiance personally, also allows you to fight decently if deemed neccesary and even push a bit, ofcourse you can skip items depending on the situation.
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On October 06 2012 00:08 Bash wrote:
Hmm, saw jungling Tiny on reddit. Go to a big camp, toss (with the newly buffed range at lvl1) a creep into creepwave to pull it. You probably could do this in most of the camps before to buff too, but I personally never saw it, for good reason.
Very inefficient I'm sure, but hey useful to know for those desperate laning options you're often faced with in pubs.
okay I just tried this, more out of fun than desperate laning options
worked fine as long as I tossed a creep with high hp, so gotta be careful with non-ursa camps
if Puppey doesn't do this at least once in a casted game I will be very sad 
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On October 06 2012 01:21 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 01:19 Yoshi- wrote:
Why would you go soul ring when you are farming? I wouldn't, I'd probably rush straight radiance with nothing for a 13min radiance etc. However if you do need to lane like in pubs, tranquil + soul ring lets you win it against just about anything I think
Can you explain what you do exactly to get a 13m radiance with PL?
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On October 06 2012 02:08 Avs wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 01:21 Shikyo wrote:On October 06 2012 01:19 Yoshi- wrote:
Why would you go soul ring when you are farming? I wouldn't, I'd probably rush straight radiance with nothing for a 13min radiance etc. However if you do need to lane like in pubs, tranquil + soul ring lets you win it against just about anything I think Can you explain what you do exactly to get a 13m radiance with PL?
you get it completely naked + get lucky and have freefarm from level 1 somehow.
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As shikyo's explained with his PA, you bitch at your team to have 2 guys babysit you for 13 minutes while u get 80% of the last hits in a freefarm lane
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On October 06 2012 02:15 Kupon3ss wrote:
As shikyo's explained, you bitch at your team to have 2 guys babysit you for 13 minutes while u get 80% of the last hits in a freefarm lane
And like 3 tower last hits
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Going Radiance at my level is a really bad idea on any hero, no matter how good it is. You absolutely need a babysat safe lane with little opposition. In my low level pubs the following x things will happen
1 - You are laning with another melee carry who relentlessly autoattacks the creeps. You get no effective farm.
2 - You are laning with a support who also autoattacks the creeps and/or abilities on said creeps. You get no effective farm.
3 - You are laning with a support (99% of the time a friend) who properly babysits you. You are still up against a dual lane wherein the enemy autoattacks the creepwave as well, pushing the lane to your tower. They may or may not have good synergy, if they do, lane is hard bro. You might get semi-effective farm.
4 - You are laning with a proper babysitting support. You are vs a solo hero. You buy a lottery ticket and realize you need to practice last hitting!
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I played against a PA the other day whose entire team was bitching at him for picking PA and he said "it's just what I do, if I wanted to win I would pick AM". I thought it was Shikyo but he didn't seem to recognize it when I called him Paikyo. Also Shikyo isn't in my bracket or continent... I can always hope.
13 minute radiance is easy in Pubs. You get your team to hand you twenty tangos and buy qb and as many +3 agi itemsq as you can.
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On October 06 2012 02:13 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 02:08 Avs wrote:On October 06 2012 01:21 Shikyo wrote:On October 06 2012 01:19 Yoshi- wrote:
Why would you go soul ring when you are farming? I wouldn't, I'd probably rush straight radiance with nothing for a 13min radiance etc. However if you do need to lane like in pubs, tranquil + soul ring lets you win it against just about anything I think Can you explain what you do exactly to get a 13m radiance with PL? you get it completely naked + get lucky and have freefarm from level 1 somehow.
Completely naked it's 10:30. You can afford tranquils and stout shield at the very least.
On October 06 2012 02:15 Qbek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 02:15 Kupon3ss wrote:
As shikyo's explained, you bitch at your team to have 2 guys babysit you for 13 minutes while u get 80% of the last hits in a freefarm lane And like 3 tower last hits
How common is it to get 0 tower kills by 13min, anyway?
By the way, last game our 25-5 drow disconnected near the end of the game -.- Then I tried to control her while controlling my PL but every single teamfight I fail controlled and got vacuumed into DS ult and then the illusions killed us sigh ... I thought I did pretty okay controlling 2 heroes at the start, got a triplekill with the drow but ... I guess I just am not good enough to control 2 heroes simultaneously precisely enough. Kind of disappointing... We could have won
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On October 06 2012 02:34 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 02:13 PassiveAce wrote:On October 06 2012 02:08 Avs wrote:On October 06 2012 01:21 Shikyo wrote:On October 06 2012 01:19 Yoshi- wrote:
Why would you go soul ring when you are farming? I wouldn't, I'd probably rush straight radiance with nothing for a 13min radiance etc. However if you do need to lane like in pubs, tranquil + soul ring lets you win it against just about anything I think Can you explain what you do exactly to get a 13m radiance with PL? you get it completely naked + get lucky and have freefarm from level 1 somehow. Completely naked it's 10:30. You can afford tranquils and stout shield at the very least. Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 02:15 Qbek wrote:On October 06 2012 02:15 Kupon3ss wrote:
As shikyo's explained, you bitch at your team to have 2 guys babysit you for 13 minutes while u get 80% of the last hits in a freefarm lane And like 3 tower last hits How common is it to get 0 tower kills by 13min, anyway? By the way, last game our 25-5 drow disconnected near the end of the game -.- Then I tried to control her while controlling my PL but every single teamfight I fail controlled and got vacuumed into DS ult and then the illusions killed us sigh ... I thought I did pretty okay controlling 2 heroes at the start, got a triplekill with the drow but ... I guess I just am not good enough to control 2 heroes simultaneously precisely enough. Kind of disappointing... We could have won
On October 06 2012 01:25 Shikyo wrote:
I was midmaster in SC2 hey o_O You think I can't control 2 units at once?
Though 2 illus aren't enough to finish a large camp early on without ult
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On another note... patch days bring out too many casuals man. having to play with kotl/furion every game is starting to drive me insane.
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Cant even control rightclick heroes at masters level. lol... Also illusions can kill things without ulti with the right items.
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