EPTsoul ring helps in lane but it's not very useful outside of that
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
soul ring helps in lane but it's not very useful outside of that | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On October 03 2012 17:26 Dead9 wrote: u don't actually need soul ring or rob, pl only has 2 spells and he has a pretty big mana pool soul ring helps in lane but it's not very useful outside of that Laning is a pretty important part of the game, so its useful. With soulring you can also farm neutrals much faster or push the enemy out of lane quite easily. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
I'm thinking adding in a ministun would be good so he can't snipe people as they are about to finish TPing, so don't have time to cancel TP (and hence get instagibed). | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On October 03 2012 17:26 Dead9 wrote: u don't actually need soul ring or rob, pl only has 2 spells and he has a pretty big mana pool soul ring helps in lane but it's not very useful outside of that I've tried to make non soul ring builds work, but even with wand + RoB I'm often uncomfortably low on mana. Soul ring also gives you the ability to farm jungle by spamming lance if you're forced out of lane. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Percutio
United States1672 Posts
On October 03 2012 18:54 Kipsate wrote: Still doesn't solve the fact that he has 2 skills that don't do anything in teamfights and that he has shit damage when he pops BKB(No bloodrage for himself) and no survivability outside of BKB. He could really use bloodrage piercing bkb and for the half bloodrage heal from hero death to be a bit bigger of an AOE so that he benefits a lot from the supports dieing in the beginning of a team fight. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 03 2012 19:39 NB wrote: you build PL lance with stat... no dope walk until level 9...this has been discussed before. That sounds pretty dumb, doppelwalk is a very important offensive spell too. I don't think you can get away with much more than 1-2 points of stats On October 03 2012 19:39 Percutio wrote: He could really use bloodrage piercing bkb and for the half bloodrage heal from hero death to be a bit bigger of an AOE so that he benefits a lot from the supports dieing in the beginning of a team fight. So now we have a person who can counter Enigma in BKB without using ult? If you want BS to be picked that'd probably lead into that but for all the wrong reasons. The oldschool radiance bloodseeker is supposed to help him heal during teamfights but it's a pretty bad idea generally. Basher all the way. | ||
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Porkz
Denmark1027 Posts
Puj, chen, disruptor, tiny, force staffs on all. The move-people-around-so-bsult-does-alot-of-damage team(copyright Porkie) | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 03 2012 19:40 Shikyo wrote: That sounds pretty dumb, doppelwalk is a very important offensive spell too. I don't think you can get away with much more than 1-2 points of stats how is dopplewalk an offensive spell? The more real reason people skip dopplewalk is because a single point in it gives you the same escape as 4 points in it. +38hp/2dmg/26 mana is honestly going to keep you alive more frequently than dopplewalk. It's by far the worst escape mechanism in the game. People going the stats build are still going to go dopplewalk if they think they're getting ganked but there's no call for putting past one point in it. You don't want juxtapose early because it pushes your lane, thus stats are taken. The ult only gets taken at 6 because it gives 10% magic resist. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 03 2012 19:47 Nevuk wrote: how is dopplewalk an offensive spell? The more real reason people skip dopplewalk is because a single point in it gives you the same escape as 4 points in it. +38hp/2dmg/26 mana is honestly going to keep you alive more frequently than dopplewalk. It's by far the worst escape mechanism in the game. People going the stats build are still going to go dopplewalk if they think they're getting ganked but there's no call for putting past one point in it. You don't want juxtapose early because it pushes your lane, thus stats are taken. The ult only gets taken at 6 because it gives 10% magic resist. In fights it's an extra illusion which for PL is quite helpful. Helps with pushing towers. It's the cheapest way to kill a camp with PL after he gets a few levels into jux and ult. Speed buff for chasing more often, more mana for more lance, etc. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On October 03 2012 19:40 Shikyo wrote: That sounds pretty dumb, doppelwalk is a very important offensive spell too. I don't think you can get away with much more than 1-2 points of stats So now we have a person who can counter Enigma in BKB without using ult? If you want BS to be picked that'd probably lead into that but for all the wrong reasons. The oldschool radiance bloodseeker is supposed to help him heal during teamfights but it's a pretty bad idea generally. Basher all the way. its like calling burning dumb.... thats how the chinese play it... for ages... | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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tauon
Australia1278 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On October 03 2012 19:51 Shikyo wrote: In fights it's an extra illusion which for PL is quite helpful. Helps with pushing towers. It's the cheapest way to kill a camp with PL after he gets a few levels into jux and ult. Speed buff for chasing more often, more mana for more lance, etc. Please stop giving bad advice. PSA: Shikyo literally doesn't know anything about Dota 2. New players please dont take his advice. it's bad. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
It's good offensively is probally the worst way to justify it though. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Poor guy should really take a hint, his advice is bad but by now it hurts to see him oblivious like that. On another note how would you guys build DP in lategame situations? I really don't have an idea other than mana boots -> bloodstone -> phase boots -> bkb and then randomly blademail, hex, heart or shiva. Am I completely off? Should I get meka or pipe and what not, I don't get it even if I love playing the hero | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Meka and or pipe will also allow you to do said push, which is quite important, I wouldn't say BKB is that neccesary, even if you are CCed your spirits will still do tons of damage. Also Ghost sceptre can be quite good on her depending on the enemy lineup. as for PL, 1 point in invis is enough, when you do it is situationally dependant. | ||
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