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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 06:45:27
October 03 2012 06:41 GMT
#22901
On October 03 2012 12:39 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 11:48 TheYango wrote:
So the TL team is now:

Shikyo hard carry
PrinceXizor off-lane
Paralleluniverse jungle
Azarkon mid
Font support

???


Font would have to be on panda though :/

Here's my application to the TL dota2 team.

On doom, I like to go midas first, into phase, orchid, shadow blade, AC, basher, satanic/abyssal. How's that?

By the way, these half-assed attempts can't work. You need to believe in it yourself.

For instance, I still don't think Battle Fury rushing on Medusa is a bad idea in certain situations, even though the Divine Rapier build I mentioned earlier is on top of my to-try list now.

Now I think I'll play Phantom Lancer a bit in preparation for the patch. Something like Soul Ring + Tranquil -> Radiance -> Manta Diffu Heart sounds pretty good to me~
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
October 03 2012 06:50 GMT
#22902
On October 03 2012 15:41 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 12:39 hunts wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:48 TheYango wrote:
So the TL team is now:

Shikyo hard carry
PrinceXizor off-lane
Paralleluniverse jungle
Azarkon mid
Font support

???


Font would have to be on panda though :/

Here's my application to the TL dota2 team.

On doom, I like to go midas first, into phase, orchid, shadow blade, AC, basher, satanic/abyssal. How's that?

By the way, these half-assed attempts can't work. You need to believe in it yourself.

For instance, I still don't think Battle Fury rushing on Medusa is a bad idea in certain situations, even though the Divine Rapier build I mentioned earlier is on top of my to-try list now.

Now I think I'll play Phantom Lancer a bit in preparation for the patch. Something like Soul Ring + Tranquil -> Radiance -> Manta Diffu Heart sounds pretty good to me~

Pa is getting pattched why don't u play her some more
Writer
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 06:58:56
October 03 2012 06:58 GMT
#22903
On October 03 2012 15:41 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 12:39 hunts wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:48 TheYango wrote:
So the TL team is now:

Shikyo hard carry
PrinceXizor off-lane
Paralleluniverse jungle
Azarkon mid
Font support

???


Font would have to be on panda though :/

Here's my application to the TL dota2 team.

On doom, I like to go midas first, into phase, orchid, shadow blade, AC, basher, satanic/abyssal. How's that?

By the way, these half-assed attempts can't work. You need to believe in it yourself.

For instance, I still don't think Battle Fury rushing on Medusa is a bad idea in certain situations, even though the Divine Rapier build I mentioned earlier is on top of my to-try list now.

Now I think I'll play Phantom Lancer a bit in preparation for the patch. Something like Soul Ring + Tranquil -> Radiance -> Manta Diffu Heart sounds pretty good to me~

Incidentally 2009 was saying this week he doesn't think Lancer needs Radiance anymore.

Tranquil+Aquila->Janggo if you have a rough Start->Diffu+QB->Manta Heart Bfly

QB is important on Lancer because illusions actually do get QB's Demolish passive.
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NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
October 03 2012 06:58 GMT
#22904
Hi ,

Can some1 explain me or redirect to already existing topic about Dota 2 items.

I was browsing some steam profiles and found Strange versions of common , uncommon , rare items.
Are they separate chest rewards or drops after games ?
Or item gets prefix strange once strange item modifier has been used on it ?
I myself have Enemies gushed for Tide and tool tip on boxes states that additional modifier enemies ravaged exist, but where do modifiers that count enemies killed come from ?

Thnx in advance
LoL making ppl rage since 2010
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 03 2012 07:02 GMT
#22905
On October 03 2012 15:37 Firebolt145 wrote:
Er you have Azarkon the complete wrong way round.

Oh really?
May be that way. He was tolerable but overall I didn´t like him and quickly forgot it seems.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 03 2012 07:05 GMT
#22906
Yeah Azarkon was the one who, going into TI2 said the Chinese teams weren't going to do anything notable and that Na'Vi was going to crush everyone.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 03 2012 07:06 GMT
#22907
On October 03 2012 15:58 NightWalks wrote:
Hi ,

Can some1 explain me or redirect to already existing topic about Dota 2 items.

I was browsing some steam profiles and found Strange versions of common , uncommon , rare items.
Are they separate chest rewards or drops after games ?
Or item gets prefix strange once strange item modifier has been used on it ?
I myself have Enemies gushed for Tide and tool tip on boxes states that additional modifier enemies ravaged exist, but where do modifiers that count enemies killed come from ?

Thnx in advance


You can get modifiers from the leveling up I believe. Also the boxes themselves drop modifiers and strange items once opened.
High Risk Low Reward
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 03 2012 07:06 GMT
#22908
He basically blindly fanboys Dendi and Na'Vi without any understanding of why they're good, when baited with a list of stuff that 430 is better than Dendi at, he replies with nothing aside from blind fanboyism instead of mentioning actual stuff like teamfight positioning, individual flair, innovative play, etc.

oh and for the amount of hilarious shittalking before the international

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15970986
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15971594
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 03 2012 07:07 GMT
#22909
On October 03 2012 15:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 15:41 Shikyo wrote:
On October 03 2012 12:39 hunts wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:48 TheYango wrote:
So the TL team is now:

Shikyo hard carry
PrinceXizor off-lane
Paralleluniverse jungle
Azarkon mid
Font support

???


Font would have to be on panda though :/

Here's my application to the TL dota2 team.

On doom, I like to go midas first, into phase, orchid, shadow blade, AC, basher, satanic/abyssal. How's that?

By the way, these half-assed attempts can't work. You need to believe in it yourself.

For instance, I still don't think Battle Fury rushing on Medusa is a bad idea in certain situations, even though the Divine Rapier build I mentioned earlier is on top of my to-try list now.

Now I think I'll play Phantom Lancer a bit in preparation for the patch. Something like Soul Ring + Tranquil -> Radiance -> Manta Diffu Heart sounds pretty good to me~

Incidentally 2009 was saying this week he doesn't think Lancer needs Radiance anymore.

Tranquil+Aquila->Janggo if you have a rough Start->Diffu+QB->Manta Heart Bfly

QB is important on Lancer because illusions actually do get QB's Demolish passive.

but once you get radi you win the game man
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 03 2012 07:12 GMT
#22910
On October 03 2012 15:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 15:41 Shikyo wrote:
On October 03 2012 12:39 hunts wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:48 TheYango wrote:
So the TL team is now:

Shikyo hard carry
PrinceXizor off-lane
Paralleluniverse jungle
Azarkon mid
Font support

???


Font would have to be on panda though :/

Here's my application to the TL dota2 team.

On doom, I like to go midas first, into phase, orchid, shadow blade, AC, basher, satanic/abyssal. How's that?

By the way, these half-assed attempts can't work. You need to believe in it yourself.

For instance, I still don't think Battle Fury rushing on Medusa is a bad idea in certain situations, even though the Divine Rapier build I mentioned earlier is on top of my to-try list now.

Now I think I'll play Phantom Lancer a bit in preparation for the patch. Something like Soul Ring + Tranquil -> Radiance -> Manta Diffu Heart sounds pretty good to me~

Incidentally 2009 was saying this week he doesn't think Lancer needs Radiance anymore.

Tranquil+Aquila->Janggo if you have a rough Start->Diffu+QB->Manta Heart Bfly

QB is important on Lancer because illusions actually do get QB's Demolish passive.

Maybe not "needed", but Radiance in a timely manner is still the most optimal build on him.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 03 2012 07:14 GMT
#22911
2009's point is that you dont NEED to get radiance, basically he note that if u have 2-3 of the best lane items (tranq aquila wand), you basically become invincible in lane and thus can develop as you wish. Its not that Radiance is particularily bad, its that this method of PL is equally valid and far superior when you have situations that require you to participate in early-midgame teamfights

I've personally gone Tranq pms aquila wand vit booster -> either rad or diffusal for the longest time depending on how the game is going
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 03 2012 07:17 GMT
#22912
On October 03 2012 16:14 Kupon3ss wrote:
2009's point is that you dont NEED to get radiance, basically he note that if u have 2-3 of the best lane items (tranq aquila wand), you basically become invincible in lane and thus can develop as you wish. Its not that Radiance is particularily bad, its that this method of PL is equally valid and far superior when you have situations that require you to participate in early-midgame teamfights

I've personally gone Tranq pms aquila wand vit booster -> either rad or diffusal for the longest time depending on how the game is going

We'll have to see how this next patch pans out, seeing as the video was made before the patch was out. On the one hand, PL's ridiculously high Agi growth will make him much more powerful in midgame teamfights (and might be more suited toward that path of development), but on the other hand, with all these nerfs to these other early-midgame carries and early pushers, it may mean that the game is more suitable for the slower Radiance route of development.
Moderator
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
October 03 2012 07:19 GMT
#22913
On October 03 2012 16:12 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 15:58 TheYango wrote:
On October 03 2012 15:41 Shikyo wrote:
On October 03 2012 12:39 hunts wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:48 TheYango wrote:
So the TL team is now:

Shikyo hard carry
PrinceXizor off-lane
Paralleluniverse jungle
Azarkon mid
Font support

???


Font would have to be on panda though :/

Here's my application to the TL dota2 team.

On doom, I like to go midas first, into phase, orchid, shadow blade, AC, basher, satanic/abyssal. How's that?

By the way, these half-assed attempts can't work. You need to believe in it yourself.

For instance, I still don't think Battle Fury rushing on Medusa is a bad idea in certain situations, even though the Divine Rapier build I mentioned earlier is on top of my to-try list now.

Now I think I'll play Phantom Lancer a bit in preparation for the patch. Something like Soul Ring + Tranquil -> Radiance -> Manta Diffu Heart sounds pretty good to me~

Incidentally 2009 was saying this week he doesn't think Lancer needs Radiance anymore.

Tranquil+Aquila->Janggo if you have a rough Start->Diffu+QB->Manta Heart Bfly

QB is important on Lancer because illusions actually do get QB's Demolish passive.

Maybe not "needed", but Radiance in a timely manner is still the most optimal build on him.


I went and watched the video, he makes a pretty compelling point in terms of radiance + vanguard < Diffusal+ring+yasha, in terms of your illusion's ability to solo farm a neutral camp starting with one illusion. i think he was able to solo farm a black dragon ancient camp with one illusion from walk. with his items.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 07:32:09
October 03 2012 07:21 GMT
#22914
On October 03 2012 16:19 kdgns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 16:12 rabidch wrote:
On October 03 2012 15:58 TheYango wrote:
On October 03 2012 15:41 Shikyo wrote:
On October 03 2012 12:39 hunts wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:48 TheYango wrote:
So the TL team is now:

Shikyo hard carry
PrinceXizor off-lane
Paralleluniverse jungle
Azarkon mid
Font support

???


Font would have to be on panda though :/

Here's my application to the TL dota2 team.

On doom, I like to go midas first, into phase, orchid, shadow blade, AC, basher, satanic/abyssal. How's that?

By the way, these half-assed attempts can't work. You need to believe in it yourself.

For instance, I still don't think Battle Fury rushing on Medusa is a bad idea in certain situations, even though the Divine Rapier build I mentioned earlier is on top of my to-try list now.

Now I think I'll play Phantom Lancer a bit in preparation for the patch. Something like Soul Ring + Tranquil -> Radiance -> Manta Diffu Heart sounds pretty good to me~

Incidentally 2009 was saying this week he doesn't think Lancer needs Radiance anymore.

Tranquil+Aquila->Janggo if you have a rough Start->Diffu+QB->Manta Heart Bfly

QB is important on Lancer because illusions actually do get QB's Demolish passive.

Maybe not "needed", but Radiance in a timely manner is still the most optimal build on him.


I went and watched the video, he makes a pretty compelling point in terms of radiance + vanguard < Diffusal+ring+yasha, in terms of your illusion's ability to solo farm a neutral camp starting with one illusion. i think he was able to solo farm a black dragon ancient camp with one illusion from walk. with his items.

That was like, after he got Heart, lol.

Generally, it's something like:
Diffusal -> Illusion can solo medium camp
Manta -> Illusion can solo hard camp
Heart ->Illusion can solo ancients

Whereas Radiance more or less lets your illusions solo hard camps directly, but still requires Diffu+Manta+Heart to kill ancients.

Honestly, the biggest argument against Radiance in pubs is the same as for Janggo/Aquila/Diffusal/etc. builds on Spectre--its more fun to earn your 3800 killing heroes than it is killing creeps.
Moderator
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 07:27:28
October 03 2012 07:25 GMT
#22915
Well for one nobody in their right mind gets Vanguard (on PL*) anymore... :/
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 03 2012 07:38 GMT
#22916
radi makes pl poop gold
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 07:59:01
October 03 2012 07:53 GMT
#22917
On October 03 2012 15:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 15:41 Shikyo wrote:
On October 03 2012 12:39 hunts wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:48 TheYango wrote:
So the TL team is now:

Shikyo hard carry
PrinceXizor off-lane
Paralleluniverse jungle
Azarkon mid
Font support

???


Font would have to be on panda though :/

Here's my application to the TL dota2 team.

On doom, I like to go midas first, into phase, orchid, shadow blade, AC, basher, satanic/abyssal. How's that?

By the way, these half-assed attempts can't work. You need to believe in it yourself.

For instance, I still don't think Battle Fury rushing on Medusa is a bad idea in certain situations, even though the Divine Rapier build I mentioned earlier is on top of my to-try list now.

Now I think I'll play Phantom Lancer a bit in preparation for the patch. Something like Soul Ring + Tranquil -> Radiance -> Manta Diffu Heart sounds pretty good to me~

Incidentally 2009 was saying this week he doesn't think Lancer needs Radiance anymore.

Edt: Thanks!
Tranquil+Aquila->Janggo if you have a rough Start->Diffu+QB->Manta Heart Bfly

QB is important on Lancer because illusions actually do get QB's Demolish passive.

Could you please post a link to this video.

Edit: Thanks!
Road to 6sange
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 03 2012 07:56 GMT
#22918
On October 03 2012 16:53 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 15:58 TheYango wrote:
On October 03 2012 15:41 Shikyo wrote:
On October 03 2012 12:39 hunts wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:48 TheYango wrote:
So the TL team is now:

Shikyo hard carry
PrinceXizor off-lane
Paralleluniverse jungle
Azarkon mid
Font support

???


Font would have to be on panda though :/

Here's my application to the TL dota2 team.

On doom, I like to go midas first, into phase, orchid, shadow blade, AC, basher, satanic/abyssal. How's that?

By the way, these half-assed attempts can't work. You need to believe in it yourself.

For instance, I still don't think Battle Fury rushing on Medusa is a bad idea in certain situations, even though the Divine Rapier build I mentioned earlier is on top of my to-try list now.

Now I think I'll play Phantom Lancer a bit in preparation for the patch. Something like Soul Ring + Tranquil -> Radiance -> Manta Diffu Heart sounds pretty good to me~

Incidentally 2009 was saying this week he doesn't think Lancer needs Radiance anymore.

Tranquil+Aquila->Janggo if you have a rough Start->Diffu+QB->Manta Heart Bfly

QB is important on Lancer because illusions actually do get QB's Demolish passive.

Could you please post a link to this video.


When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 03 2012 08:03 GMT
#22919
Is the update coming tonight or tomorrow?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 03 2012 08:18 GMT
#22920
On October 03 2012 15:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 15:41 Shikyo wrote:
On October 03 2012 12:39 hunts wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:48 TheYango wrote:
So the TL team is now:

Shikyo hard carry
PrinceXizor off-lane
Paralleluniverse jungle
Azarkon mid
Font support

???


Font would have to be on panda though :/

Here's my application to the TL dota2 team.

On doom, I like to go midas first, into phase, orchid, shadow blade, AC, basher, satanic/abyssal. How's that?

By the way, these half-assed attempts can't work. You need to believe in it yourself.

For instance, I still don't think Battle Fury rushing on Medusa is a bad idea in certain situations, even though the Divine Rapier build I mentioned earlier is on top of my to-try list now.

Now I think I'll play Phantom Lancer a bit in preparation for the patch. Something like Soul Ring + Tranquil -> Radiance -> Manta Diffu Heart sounds pretty good to me~

Incidentally 2009 was saying this week he doesn't think Lancer needs Radiance anymore.

Tranquil+Aquila->Janggo if you have a rough Start->Diffu+QB->Manta Heart Bfly

QB is important on Lancer because illusions actually do get QB's Demolish passive.

Yeah I know, Radiance isn't needed on him.

However with Soul Ring I feel like it's still really good. AoE damage on the whole team on a low cooldown from far away. Makes it better for playing the Mage Phantom Lancer in the midgame(though maybe Janggo makes him durable enough so that you don't need to play him as a mage).


Janggo still after the patch? Also I'll try Aquila instead of Soul Ring even though that might not make the magecraft as sustainable in teamfights.
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