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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 25 2012 21:57 GMT
#22061
Does anyone else feel the same way i do. like i random most games (or normally), or i'll pick later on and try and fit it in with the team comp (aka picking support), and like, some dude will first pick invoker or morphling. and i'll go look at his profile and its like, 6 pages of only storm/invoker/morphling. and they call solo mid before the pick screen and shit.

and i think i hit my breaking point. i'm sick of playing a hard 5 support, and then when i random a carry the support comes to my lane and jacks farm. so i just started picking luna. every game. almost up to a full page in my history of pure luna. it's kind of freeing, being this much of a cunt. not thinking about the team. i still pick it early so i'm not like, adding to the carry stack, and tbh it's been working out ok.

god i'm such a cunt.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
September 25 2012 22:04 GMT
#22062
On September 26 2012 06:57 Kiante wrote:
Does anyone else feel the same way i do. like i random most games (or normally), or i'll pick later on and try and fit it in with the team comp (aka picking support), and like, some dude will first pick invoker or morphling. and i'll go look at his profile and its like, 6 pages of only storm/invoker/morphling. and they call solo mid before the pick screen and shit.

and i think i hit my breaking point. i'm sick of playing a hard 5 support, and then when i random a carry the support comes to my lane and jacks farm. so i just started picking luna. every game. almost up to a full page in my history of pure luna. it's kind of freeing, being this much of a cunt. not thinking about the team. i still pick it early so i'm not like, adding to the carry stack, and tbh it's been working out ok.

god i'm such a cunt.

What, like this?

[image loading]

(searched through all 39 pages, couldn't find any with pure invoker )
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
September 25 2012 22:05 GMT
#22063
Playing what you want is no sin unless you hate when other people play what they want.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 25 2012 22:10 GMT
#22064
it makes me unreasonably angry, but i finally moved past it i guess.

i also get pretty vengeful to my own team. like i was laning with a disruptor and i was am. he was trying to last hit, failing and making it ridiculously hard for me to get last hits. so i was like "disruptor please dont farm, pull or soemthing"
and he was like NO NOW I GO FOR ALL LAST HITS or something.

i have no patience for that shit, so i went lvl 3 jungle as am. slowly farmed up a bfury or wahtever. we lost obviously, but i felt good knowing i'd tanked the game for the idiot who cant work out what supporting a carry is. same thing happened with a prophet (i was playing luna, so he had my aura buff making out-last hitting him pretty tough). i asked and asked for him to go jungle (you know, cuz he was a prophet) and he didn't say a word so i just went to the jungle at like lvl 2. ended up like 0-24 or soemthing XD felt great
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Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
September 25 2012 22:12 GMT
#22065
I did the every game random thing for a long long time and I would just play whatever role I got. Recently however I really got sick of randoming a support and ending up looking at what my team is doing and just seeing ridiculous mistakes at every point, especially people not having the slightest clue of how to play mid. So for the last week or so I've been one of those douchebags who instacall mid.

I don't pick one hero even twice in a row though, fuck that shit. I've no idea how you don't get bored.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
September 25 2012 22:12 GMT
#22066
I had a game the other day where I was dire side, solo top AM against a DS spamming ion shell. Porkie was in the jungle as NP and pulled every single fucking wave. He knew he was fucking me over but he did it anyway rofl

Somehow I still farmed up a ton and raped the game, but eh it was funny.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 25 2012 22:15 GMT
#22067
firebolt, why are you in negative, you should queue with us more .. .hueheuheuhe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 25 2012 22:16 GMT
#22068
you know what's funny, when people do single pulls and think they're being helpful D:

one day i figure if i pick luna enough i'll get a competant CM or soemthing to support me and i'll have like 80cs at 10 minutes and destruction will ensue. Not that i'm doing badly with luna, i've been winning the majority of the games i haven't thrown XD but still, i envy the people i support when i random/pick support. i really do. it must be fucking heaven.
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Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
September 25 2012 22:17 GMT
#22069
On September 26 2012 07:10 Kiante wrote:
it makes me unreasonably angry, but i finally moved past it i guess.

i also get pretty vengeful to my own team. like i was laning with a disruptor and i was am. he was trying to last hit, failing and making it ridiculously hard for me to get last hits. so i was like "disruptor please dont farm, pull or soemthing"
and he was like NO NOW I GO FOR ALL LAST HITS or something.

i have no patience for that shit, so i went lvl 3 jungle as am. slowly farmed up a bfury or wahtever. we lost obviously, but i felt good knowing i'd tanked the game for the idiot who cant work out what supporting a carry is. same thing happened with a prophet (i was playing luna, so he had my aura buff making out-last hitting him pretty tough). i asked and asked for him to go jungle (you know, cuz he was a prophet) and he didn't say a word so i just went to the jungle at like lvl 2. ended up like 0-24 or soemthing XD felt great

Sometimes it's fun to grief asshole teammates and pretend you tried your best. Then spam hearts to piss them off even further..
=Þ
DeltaX
Profile Joined August 2011
United States287 Posts
September 25 2012 22:18 GMT
#22070
I generally don't mind when people call mid and instant pick something like morph/invoker as long as they don't act like a dick and the hero they pick is actually a good mid. I get much more annoyed when people call mid and say, afk for the first 3 min of the game (and then act like a dick when you call them on it) or pick heroes that are just bad mid (say, void) when you have a legit mid hero.

That said, i actually kind of like playing position 5 supports if the carry player I lane with is willing to be aggressive. Veno/CM can get a ton of kills early and I tend to end up with much more than just boots since it is lots easier to get bits of farm if you are not getting killed all the time.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 25 2012 22:29 GMT
#22071
On September 26 2012 07:18 DeltaX wrote:
I generally don't mind when people call mid and instant pick something like morph/invoker as long as they don't act like a dick and the hero they pick is actually a good mid. I get much more annoyed when people call mid and say, afk for the first 3 min of the game (and then act like a dick when you call them on it) or pick heroes that are just bad mid (say, void) when you have a legit mid hero.

That said, i actually kind of like playing position 5 supports if the carry player I lane with is willing to be aggressive. Veno/CM can get a ton of kills early and I tend to end up with much more than just boots since it is lots easier to get bits of farm if you are not getting killed all the time.

what bugs me is they always pick the role where they get to "be the star" and they're robbing anyone else a chance from taking it. like the people i'm talking about you can go through their match list for like 15+ pages and not see a hero that you'd even vaguely classify as support except the occasional windrunner which is played as a carry. it just bugs me. like they're not sharing the stage. if you're playinga solo mid morphling, regardless of what goes on in the game, if your team is winning you'll be getting a lot of kills (because you';ll get an eblade and pewpew people), meanwhile your supports will be sitting in the background, still winning, but you'll be getting all the endorphins and praise and shit.

that's the best i can explain it.
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CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
September 25 2012 22:39 GMT
#22072
On September 26 2012 07:18 DeltaX wrote:
I generally don't mind when people call mid and instant pick something like morph/invoker as long as they don't act like a dick and the hero they pick is actually a good mid. I get much more annoyed when people call mid and say, afk for the first 3 min of the game (and then act like a dick when you call them on it) or pick heroes that are just bad mid (say, void) when you have a legit mid hero.

That said, i actually kind of like playing position 5 supports if the carry player I lane with is willing to be aggressive. Veno/CM can get a ton of kills early and I tend to end up with much more than just boots since it is lots easier to get bits of farm if you are not getting killed all the time.


The better is still the opposite where I was playing with my friends, randomed Faceless Void, and not a single person picked a mid hero afterwards. Now I know amongst the group of friends I was playing with, I am far and above all of them in skill level (not trying to brag, just have years and years of more expierence). Went mid, had to face invoker, won the lane, won the game.

Now of course the same has happened in other games in completely unwinnable mid lanes that proceed to lose us the game so its not a 100% thing, and can get pretty frustrating. However it still feels great to win mid with a hero that had no business doing so.
DeltaX
Profile Joined August 2011
United States287 Posts
September 25 2012 22:45 GMT
#22073
Personally I don't really mind that, but on the other hand, if they don't preform very well after calling mid there is a good chance I'll mock them for bad play. The other option is to also pick a mid hero that can last hit better than them, and then go mid and take all the farm. You prolly will not win the game, but you will prolly feel better.

A better option IMO is to just play a mode that is not all pick. I tend to have lots more even games playing RD and people who only play 1 hero would never play that mode anyway.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 25 2012 23:12 GMT
#22074
On September 26 2012 07:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 06:57 Kiante wrote:
Does anyone else feel the same way i do. like i random most games (or normally), or i'll pick later on and try and fit it in with the team comp (aka picking support), and like, some dude will first pick invoker or morphling. and i'll go look at his profile and its like, 6 pages of only storm/invoker/morphling. and they call solo mid before the pick screen and shit.

and i think i hit my breaking point. i'm sick of playing a hard 5 support, and then when i random a carry the support comes to my lane and jacks farm. so i just started picking luna. every game. almost up to a full page in my history of pure luna. it's kind of freeing, being this much of a cunt. not thinking about the team. i still pick it early so i'm not like, adding to the carry stack, and tbh it's been working out ok.

god i'm such a cunt.

What, like this?

[image loading]

(searched through all 39 pages, couldn't find any with pure invoker )

;S

I once only had 3 pages and they all were pure PA, you're doing it wrong.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 23:14:57
September 25 2012 23:13 GMT
#22075
On September 26 2012 03:52 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 03:49 Yoshi- wrote:

for example: bkb blocks tide's ult, but not voids
doom's ult disables ALL passives (except for void's bactrack)

There are plenty ulties that don't get blocked by linkens and plenty of passives that are still active after doom

I can't think of any single-target ulties that don't get blocked by Linkens. Linkens wasn't originally designed to block most AoE's, though this has changed over time (blocked fissure, for example).

This is a bug. Linkens is not supposed to block burrowstrike or fissure or lion's stun unless the target is directly clicked on. It's a bug that's been known since linken's was implemented but they've never fixed it. Maybe they're just seeing how a buff on the item would work? It's still not a very common pickup.

The issue with linkens is that it's countered by a 2200 gold pickup that almost every support buys (force staff) while bkb has no counters outside of a select few ults.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 25 2012 23:19 GMT
#22076
On September 26 2012 08:13 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 03:52 Firebolt145 wrote:
On September 26 2012 03:49 Yoshi- wrote:

for example: bkb blocks tide's ult, but not voids
doom's ult disables ALL passives (except for void's bactrack)

There are plenty ulties that don't get blocked by linkens and plenty of passives that are still active after doom

I can't think of any single-target ulties that don't get blocked by Linkens. Linkens wasn't originally designed to block most AoE's, though this has changed over time (blocked fissure, for example).

This is a bug. Linkens is not supposed to block burrowstrike or fissure or lion's stun unless the target is directly clicked on. It's a bug that's been known since linken's was implemented but they've never fixed it. Maybe they're just seeing how a buff on the item would work? It's still not a very common pickup.

The issue with linkens is that it's countered by a 2200 gold pickup that almost every support buys (force staff) while bkb has no counters outside of a select few ults.

Better than being countered by 2 900-gold-ish items like it was before.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 23:23:17
September 25 2012 23:21 GMT
#22077
On September 26 2012 08:19 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 08:13 Nevuk wrote:
On September 26 2012 03:52 Firebolt145 wrote:
On September 26 2012 03:49 Yoshi- wrote:

for example: bkb blocks tide's ult, but not voids
doom's ult disables ALL passives (except for void's bactrack)

There are plenty ulties that don't get blocked by linkens and plenty of passives that are still active after doom

I can't think of any single-target ulties that don't get blocked by Linkens. Linkens wasn't originally designed to block most AoE's, though this has changed over time (blocked fissure, for example).

This is a bug. Linkens is not supposed to block burrowstrike or fissure or lion's stun unless the target is directly clicked on. It's a bug that's been known since linken's was implemented but they've never fixed it. Maybe they're just seeing how a buff on the item would work? It's still not a very common pickup.

The issue with linkens is that it's countered by a 2200 gold pickup that almost every support buys (force staff) while bkb has no counters outside of a select few ults.

Better than being countered by 2 900-gold-ish items like it was before.

Definitely true, but Linken's just feels like a really expensive mana regen item except vs a few very rare lineups to me.

If force staff went through Linken's it might be an even worse item despite the fact the next cheapest items for doing it are euls and diffusal because blocking force staff is probably worth it a lot of the time.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 25 2012 23:25 GMT
#22078
when in doubt if something will fit your team composition yes or no

pick windrunner.
WriterXiao8~~
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 25 2012 23:29 GMT
#22079
On September 26 2012 08:25 Kipsate wrote:
when in doubt if something will fit your team composition yes or no

pick windrunner.

pick rubick.
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N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
September 25 2012 23:33 GMT
#22080
On September 26 2012 08:29 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 08:25 Kipsate wrote:
when in doubt if something will fit your team composition yes or no

pick windrunner.

pick rubick.



I can agree, when in doubt rubick will never be a bad pick.
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