EPTfor example: bkb blocks tide's ult, but not voids
doom's ult disables ALL passives (except for void's bactrack)
There are plenty ulties that don't get blocked by bkb and plenty of passives that are still active after doom
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Yoshi-
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for example: bkb blocks tide's ult, but not voids doom's ult disables ALL passives (except for void's bactrack) There are plenty ulties that don't get blocked by bkb and plenty of passives that are still active after doom | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On September 26 2012 03:49 Yoshi- wrote: There are plenty ulties that don't get blocked by linkens and plenty of passives that are still active after doom I can't think of any single-target ulties that don't get blocked by Linkens. Linkens wasn't originally designed to block most AoE's, though this has changed over time (blocked fissure, for example). | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On September 26 2012 03:52 Firebolt145 wrote: I can't think of any single-target ulties that don't get blocked by Linkens. Linkens wasn't originally designed to block most AoE's, though this has changed over time (blocked fissure, for example). 'I meant bkb and wrote linkens. | ||
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BurningSera
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Firebolt145
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On September 26 2012 03:59 BurningSera wrote: The thing about Kraken shell is that it removes all debuff once he took 600damage, nothing to do with the rules/exception etc. Generally saying most ulti > normal skills/items, there are some balance involved. Not really, Linkens will stop Laguna blade/Finger of death/Mana Void/Doom/Roar etc etc. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:05 Firebolt145 wrote: Not really, Linkens will stop Laguna blade/Finger of death/Mana Void/Doom/Roar etc etc. most ulti single target ulti is easy to click = balance to be stopped by bkb/linken. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:07 BurningSera wrote: most ulti single target ulti is easy to click = balance to be stopped by bkb/linken. Most ults are blocked by both bkb and linkens. Linkens blocks all single target spells but no aoe spells (ults or not) because that's what it was designed to do. BKB is the weirder one with no pattern to spells that bypass it but the only AoE spell that goes through it that I can think of is chronosphere. Originally these spells were not intended to be designed to bypass Linken's/BKB. The only reason they did was because of the way they were coded. Then they became part of the balance, and Icefrog chose to leave it that way. The same reason why all this buggy stuff in SCBW just became part of the game. | ||
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Unleashing
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Heh_
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On September 26 2012 04:11 Firebolt145 wrote: Most ults are blocked by both bkb and linkens. Linkens blocks all single target spells but no aoe spells (ults or not) because that's what it was designed to do. BKB is the weirder one with no pattern to spells that bypass it but the only AoE spell that goes through it that I can think of is chronosphere. Originally these spells were not intended to be designed to bypass Linken's/BKB. The only reason they did was because of the way they were coded. Then they became part of the balance, and Icefrog chose to leave it that way. The same reason why all this buggy stuff in SCBW just became part of the game. I think Blackhole goes through BKB... All I know is panda ult goes through Blackhole. Found that out the hard way -_- | ||
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Erasme
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/x1N1l.jpg) look at this badass chicken with his cool hair and his hook | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:19 Erasme wrote: look at this badass chicken with his cool hair and his hook loldafuq? | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:18 Heh_ wrote: I think Blackhole goes through BKB... All I know is panda ult goes through Blackhole. Found that out the hard way -_- It's not that panda ult goes trough BKB, it's that ancient units aren't affected by it, warlock golem isn't affected either you see. And the brewlings are ancient units. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:11 Firebolt145 wrote: Most ults are blocked by both bkb and linkens. Linkens blocks all single target spells but no aoe spells (ults or not) because that's what it was designed to do. BKB is the weirder one with no pattern to spells that bypass it but the only AoE spell that goes through it that I can think of is chronosphere. Originally these spells were not intended to be designed to bypass Linken's/BKB. The only reason they did was because of the way they were coded. Then they became part of the balance, and Icefrog chose to leave it that way. The same reason why all this buggy stuff in SCBW just became part of the game. sorry i was thinking something else. Ya you paid for a bkb to block most ulti, there are about 20 something spells go through bkb. Single target ulti works just like other spell doesnt go through on linken. Of course it was the coding at the beginning but it can be fixed when dota went competitive, since it is fine at this stage so nobody gives a damn (some debate pops up from time to time though in balance forum). | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:19 Erasme wrote: look at this badass chicken with his cool hair and his hook I want a chicken pudge skin now. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
 (((Why do casters still think getting more than 1 drum = miscommunication on teams. Like the fuck. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:55 Unleashing wrote: (((Why do casters still think getting more than 1 drum = miscommunication on teams. Like the fuck. Getting them on both of your carries is rather bad this early (d2l game I assume) | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 26 2012 05:00 Qbek wrote: Getting them on both of your carries is rather bad this early (d2l game I assume) No, it really is fine. The stats are insanely effective for cost either way, and the aura is negligible. You burn through the actives super fast anyway (or at least you should--I've seen Western players be way too stingy with Janggo charges a lot of the time), so as long as the team is coordinated enough to not accidentally pop both actives at the same time (and pro teams should be), it's not a big deal. Around the beginning of this year in DotA 1 when Panda was getting played way more using Phase->Janggo builds rather than the current trend of Arcanes, it was very common to see some combination of CK/Panda/BH with 2 Janggos. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:19 Erasme wrote: look at this badass chicken with his cool hair and his hook are you stuck in the 90s with that screen resolution or something | ||
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