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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 23 2012 11:04 GMT
#21741
On September 23 2012 19:38 ChrisXIV wrote:
Playing TA vs a team consisting of Omni, Riki, Bat, Axe and Clock is not fun at all. Do not recommend lol. Aside from a decent amount of DoT, Omni is a pain in the ass with his invulnerability, magic immunity and heal, Riki's cloud fucks up Meld hits, Bat is Bat, Axe fucks up Meld hits and Clock takes you out of the fight completely.

I still won, but damn, that game was hard.

I'd totally get a forcestaff instead of blink against that team.
super gg
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 23 2012 11:08 GMT
#21742
On September 23 2012 19:38 ChrisXIV wrote:
Playing TA vs a team consisting of Omni, Riki, Bat, Axe and Clock is not fun at all. Do not recommend lol. Aside from a decent amount of DoT, Omni is a pain in the ass with his invulnerability, magic immunity and heal, Riki's cloud fucks up Meld hits, Bat is Bat, Axe fucks up Meld hits and Clock takes you out of the fight completely.

I still won, but damn, that game was hard.

I started just picking viper against TAs. if i attack you, i ruin your refraction if you attack me, I ruin your refraction if you stand far away I ruin your refraction, bonus point when enemy team is ursa and TA and you just kite them both and make them miserable all game.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 11:17:14
September 23 2012 11:15 GMT
#21743
I like picking TA early, letting enemy pick any and all counters they want (I think veno has been in all my TA games, with Lesh as a close second). She's so imba I really don't even care, and it makes me feel cool while stylin' around them.

I do the same with invis heroes, but that's mostly just to bait out Slardar because Slardar is always terrible.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Froob
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom342 Posts
September 23 2012 11:48 GMT
#21744
god i love playing chaos knight
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 23 2012 12:24 GMT
#21745
On September 23 2012 20:15 Bash wrote:
I like picking TA early, letting enemy pick any and all counters they want (I think veno has been in all my TA games, with Lesh as a close second). She's so imba I really don't even care, and it makes me feel cool while stylin' around them.

I do the same with invis heroes, but that's mostly just to bait out Slardar because Slardar is always terrible.

ta's splash is getting nerfed which should make her less of an imba mid (not as wide splash) meaning you'll really have to position well to splash ranged mids. i think we'll see her get stomped mid in pubs by people used to playing the broken version for a while after it gets fixed
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Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
September 23 2012 12:44 GMT
#21746
On September 23 2012 21:24 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:15 Bash wrote:
I like picking TA early, letting enemy pick any and all counters they want (I think veno has been in all my TA games, with Lesh as a close second). She's so imba I really don't even care, and it makes me feel cool while stylin' around them.

I do the same with invis heroes, but that's mostly just to bait out Slardar because Slardar is always terrible.

ta's splash is getting nerfed which should make her less of an imba mid (not as wide splash) meaning you'll really have to position well to splash ranged mids. i think we'll see her get stomped mid in pubs by people used to playing the broken version for a while after it gets fixed

nerfed sounds so brutal. They are adjusting it to what it should have been from the start.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
September 23 2012 12:46 GMT
#21747
a) Source?
b) I don't think that will even matter for pubs. Getting blades harass is a bonus. TA is a good pub-stomper she does so much damage early game, and to counter her you need to not panic and co-ordinate your low-damage attack to break her shield, which is impossibru in pubs.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
September 23 2012 12:55 GMT
#21748
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=46629&page=4&p=349339&viewfull=1#post349339
ffxiv enjoyer
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 23 2012 12:57 GMT
#21749
So it's just the width, it will be just harder to own, which is always good
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 23 2012 12:58 GMT
#21750
On September 23 2012 21:46 LAN-f34r wrote:
a) Source?
b) I don't think that will even matter for pubs. Getting blades harass is a bonus. TA is a good pub-stomper she does so much damage early game, and to counter her you need to not panic and co-ordinate your low-damage attack to break her shield, which is impossibru in pubs.

without early farm she can get shut down pretty hard. this is going to make matchups like invoker vs ta much more favoured to the invoker.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 23 2012 13:52 GMT
#21751
viper still makes her cry though.
YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
September 23 2012 13:56 GMT
#21752
So, random question. I always seem to have amazing games with sand king, yesterday going hard lane solo vs weaver and lich...and winning, ending up carrying my team to the win in a 57 minute game. My question is, items. That game, I went mana boots, blink, heart, aghs, shivas. I was very unkillable, but was lacking damage pretty much the entire game, and had to rely on good blink ultis in teamfights to wreck face. So, what's a good carry sk build? And by carry sk, my games always go the same way. Win lane, but not by killing everyone, usually just pushing people out, and just farming well. ~15 minute mana boots dagger, nothing super amazing. Then i just roam around not ever being afraid to use ulti to kill one hero. 15 minutes later, I have heart and aghs, and I just destroy people in team fights, and noone can kill me. But my damage is pretty much bad all game.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 23 2012 14:07 GMT
#21753
SK ain't a carry hero but you could always go something like mana boots > radi > veil > aghs > shivas. Should have a pretty high damage output :D but getting that kinda farm would be so hard.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 23 2012 14:07 GMT
#21754
the answer is: it doesn't exist. you shouldn't be taking that much farm with sk in the first place. its much better used by a moprhling or an am or whatever. sk doesn't really have the skillset to do good right click damage. not saying he cant, if you really want damage, buy damage items, but i'd think about how i can help my carry get that farm instead. stop farming waves with caustic and start protecting your carry
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Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
September 23 2012 14:13 GMT
#21755
Last time I saw dendi carry on SK he went like bottle > wand > treads > blink > bkb > AC > daedalus or something. Should try that.
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
September 23 2012 15:42 GMT
#21756
24 kills on team, 0 kills, 1 assist on phantom lancer. How can those people get into very high tier ? Never saw someone so bad even in dumpster tier.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 23 2012 16:17 GMT
#21757
On September 24 2012 00:42 Gheizen64 wrote:
24 kills on team, 0 kills, 1 assist on phantom lancer. How can those people get into very high tier ? Never saw someone so bad even in dumpster tier.

unless he had like 5 deaths to go alone with that shounds like he was doing his job, PL should be spitpushing and farming not killing shit, not saying he cant kill shit, its just that he's so good at splitpushing
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 16:20:01
September 23 2012 16:18 GMT
#21758
On September 23 2012 22:56 YODA_ wrote:
So, random question. I always seem to have amazing games with sand king, yesterday going hard lane solo vs weaver and lich...and winning, ending up carrying my team to the win in a 57 minute game. My question is, items. That game, I went mana boots, blink, heart, aghs, shivas. I was very unkillable, but was lacking damage pretty much the entire game, and had to rely on good blink ultis in teamfights to wreck face. So, what's a good carry sk build? And by carry sk, my games always go the same way. Win lane, but not by killing everyone, usually just pushing people out, and just farming well. ~15 minute mana boots dagger, nothing super amazing. Then i just roam around not ever being afraid to use ulti to kill one hero. 15 minutes later, I have heart and aghs, and I just destroy people in team fights, and noone can kill me. But my damage is pretty much bad all game.


well, according to 2009 (so the following advice is not just me being shinbi), if you start off with like pt/blink/jango, and get strong map control with teamfights etc, he likes getting bfury and transitioning to physical dps with whatever's appropriate (crit, sny, manta, heart, ac, etc).
Having tried it, it's pretty fun, sk can actually farm reaaaally quickly with blink/bfury/caustic

e: Aghs rush is fine, but then your damage will be relying on your ulti, naturally.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Shichibukai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden355 Posts
September 23 2012 16:20 GMT
#21759
So I thought I'd try out Meepo in a bot game, the bots picked Tiny and Lich. Time to uninstall.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 23 2012 16:21 GMT
#21760
On September 24 2012 01:20 Shichibukai wrote:
So I thought I'd try out Meepo in a bot game, the bots picked Tiny and Lich. Time to uninstall.


Don't the bots always pick tiny mid?
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