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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
April 15 2009 21:30 GMT
#1
I used to rule the world
Seas would rise when I gave the word
Now in the morning I sleep alone
Sweep the streets I used to own

I used to roll the dice
Feel the fear in my enemy's eyes
Listen as the crowd would sing
"Now the old king is dead! Long live the king!"

One minute I held the key
Next the walls were closed on me
And I discovered that my castles stand
Upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand

I hear Jerusalem bells are ringing
Roman Cavalry choirs are singing
Be my mirror, my sword and shield
My missionaries in a foreign field

For some reason I can't explain
Once you go there was never
Never an honest word
And that was when I ruled the world

It was the wicked and wild wind
Blew down the doors to let me in
Shattered windows and the sound of drums
People couldn't believe what I'd become

Revolutionaries wait
For my head on a silver plate
Just a puppet on a lonely string
Oh who would ever want to be king?

I hear Jerusalem bells are ringing
Roman Cavalry choirs are singing
Be my mirror, my sword and shield
My missionaries in a foreign field

For some reason I can't explain
I know Saint Peter won't call my name
Never an honest word
But that was when I ruled the world

I hear Jerusalem bells are ringing
Roman Cavalry choirs are singing
Be my mirror, my sword and shield
My missionaries in a foreign field

For some reason I can't explain
I know Saint Peter won't call my name
Never an honest word
But that was when I ruled the world





Could someone explain to me what these lyrics mean? I have tried to study them and I just don't understand what he's trying to say.
Are these metaphors? Are they referring to his life?
If someone could clarify this, I would appreciate it
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
April 15 2009 21:33 GMT
#2
somehow this reminds me of a homework thread
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MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
April 15 2009 21:35 GMT
#3
pretty sentences, lyrical roleplaying maybe

this is typical and that has little meaning, theres no real depth behind it. youll have to make that mean something in your own little mind
hello there
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
April 15 2009 21:40 GMT
#4
only the original songwriter knows its true meaning. in the words of shakespeare, take it "as you like it"
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 15 2009 21:44 GMT
#5
it means its a shitty song
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 21:45:50
April 15 2009 21:45 GMT
#6
Hmmm....
This song has strong religous allusions. The analogy of St. Peter holding the keys to heaven is heavily exploited. The "Sea's rising when I gave the word," the mention of jerusalem, rome, and missionaries all suggest some religous theme.
I could make an arguement the whole song is about Jesus. How Jesus was a the King of the jews, who preached a false word, and was eventually killed.
I don't know anything about the author though, so this could be completely off.
Live to win.
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
April 15 2009 21:48 GMT
#7
I might also argue the song speaks somewhat about the fading role of religion.
Live to win.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 21:52:30
April 15 2009 21:52 GMT
#8
Hey, wanna know how I know you're gay?
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 15 2009 21:52 GMT
#9
On April 16 2009 06:44 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
it means its a shitty song

+1 fuck plagiarist bullshit assclown douchebag coldplay and all of their fans.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 15 2009 21:53 GMT
#10
On April 16 2009 06:48 aRod wrote:
I might also argue the song speaks somewhat about the fading role of religion.

I would argue that this was a Joe Satriani song, and not even a good one. youtube/google it
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
April 15 2009 21:55 GMT
#11
On April 16 2009 06:52 Drowsy wrote:
Hey guys, look at me! I derive my self esteem from feeling superior to people who listen to and enjoy popular music! I hope more people jump on my bandwagon, because then I won't feel so alone.

in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
April 15 2009 21:55 GMT
#12
I'm pretty sure that this song is about Napoleon's rise and fall.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 21:56:47
April 15 2009 21:55 GMT
#13
French Revolution yo.

edit: not Napoleon, more like Robespierre.
TranslatorBaa!
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
April 15 2009 21:57 GMT
#14
Words like these are made to be understood in many possible ways.

My opinion is that it talks about the life, perhaps his life:
He was young and thought he knew what life is about. He was perhaps full of potential - future 'king' material; on top of his world.
But then life's problems struck him, perhaps a dramatic occurrence happened that left his confidence and fundamental beliefs about life shattered. He's now lost and overwhelmed by life.

But that's pretty much my personal story so yeah... I think this is like a mirror, you will see what you already have in the back of your mind.
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
April 15 2009 22:12 GMT
#15
On April 16 2009 06:44 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
it means its a shitty song

hahaha pretty much
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
April 15 2009 22:16 GMT
#16
THREAD SEMI RELEVENT HIJACK!!!!

Check this shit out

Joe Satriani took Chris Martin to court a couple months back because he claimed that Martin plagerized Satriani's song "If I Could Fly" Satriani goes on the news saying it took him 10 years to write the song about his dead wife.

Then they interview Coldplay and are like "Satriani took ten years to write that song."

And Martin goes "Ten Years? It took us like 10 Minutes!!" and then they High-Five

Burn!
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
April 15 2009 22:25 GMT
#17
On April 16 2009 07:16 cgrinker wrote:
THREAD SEMI RELEVENT HIJACK!!!!

Check this shit out

Joe Satriani took Chris Martin to court a couple months back because he claimed that Martin plagerized Satriani's song "If I Could Fly" Satriani goes on the news saying it took him 10 years to write the song about his dead wife.

Then they interview Coldplay and are like "Satriani took ten years to write that song."

And Martin goes "Ten Years? It took us like 10 Minutes!!" and then they High-Five

Burn!


Yeah, it took them ten minutes to plagiarize his song.
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
April 15 2009 22:32 GMT
#18
All i know is that it's about Napoleon.

Just my 2 cents.
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 22:45:04
April 15 2009 22:35 GMT
#19
- there are many blogs and threads out there asking the same question

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080804040335AAWySck <- try this one
http://www.baptisttwentyone.com/?p=462
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080810164925AApFftY
http://avoidmuse.blogspot.com/2009/03/viva-la-vida.html
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=15253175252&topic=7793

tip: http://www.google.com
interview coldplay explanation to the lyrics viva la vida
i.e. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS268&ei=1WLmSYPAOujqnQf6lbCmCQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=interview coldplay explanation to the lyrics viva la vida&spell=1
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
April 15 2009 22:39 GMT
#20
On April 16 2009 06:44 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
it means its a shitty song


aiight!
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 22:41:27
April 15 2009 22:41 GMT
#21
this is kind of random to have in general >.> guess it belongs here because of the randomness
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kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
April 15 2009 22:43 GMT
#22
coldplay are talentless hacks.
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
April 15 2009 22:46 GMT
#23
Satriani will win or the plagerism laws are broken.
Jimtudor
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada259 Posts
April 15 2009 22:52 GMT
#24
I think this is what it means...

s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
April 15 2009 22:54 GMT
#25
On April 16 2009 06:44 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
it means its a shitty song


this man knows.
I am not good with quotes
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 22:57:12
April 15 2009 22:55 GMT
#26
wow so much hate, not that I like coldplay but is there anything that people on the internet wont complain about? seem to think that everything sucks if its mainstream?o_o

and on topic I also think it has links to napoleon but many believe it also reflects christ's last days.
Do it beautifully
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
April 15 2009 22:59 GMT
#27
People insulting Coldplay... t.t

I mean, I understand it's a main stream big, commercial group but I really like a lot of their work. I think some people would claim to hate any popular group regardless of their actual music. The only groups that escape this are perhaps the old "classic" ones like Queen and the Beatles.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 15 2009 23:00 GMT
#28
hundreds of comments:
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858719657/

and lol @ hate
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
April 15 2009 23:11 GMT
#29
It's about Savior obviously
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
April 15 2009 23:11 GMT
#30
omfg...... I'm asking a question. I didn't ask your opinions or whether or not you hate coldplay.
Keep the negative comments to yourselves. Basically, if you don't want to explain about the lyrics, shut up.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
April 15 2009 23:14 GMT
#31
On April 16 2009 08:11 Seeker wrote:
omfg...... I'm asking a question. I didn't ask your opinions or whether or not you hate coldplay.
Keep the negative comments to yourselves. Basically, if you don't want to explain about the lyrics, shut up.


Woah... calm down, and don't tell other people what to do. You're the one who can't use google.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 15 2009 23:15 GMT
#32
lol. coldplay "talentless" ?

lol ?

people are ridiculous
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
April 15 2009 23:20 GMT
#33
So much hate =(.

I liked Viva la Vida's lyrics, was a step away from the 'dancing in clubs', 'love me', 'she doesnt love me', 'shes gone' lyrics that i was so used to hearing in radios.

It's great that he sings used to being a king, how it plays out during the past and how it's relevant in the modern world.

It's such a shame about the plagiarism thing though.
We see things they'll never see
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 15 2009 23:22 GMT
#34
This song is written by plagiarizing motherfuckers.. even the music video is full of shit.
Brood War loyalist
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 15 2009 23:31 GMT
#35
On April 16 2009 08:11 3 Lions wrote:
It's about Savior obviously

Best comment yet.

Less plagiarism discussion, more allusions to Starcraft, please.
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
April 15 2009 23:33 GMT
#36
LOCO
hm what's up with that r. martin fellow. its been a while...
XK ßubonic
sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
April 16 2009 00:21 GMT
#37
It means that coldplay is really good at making lyrics that sound meaningful yet are not.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
April 16 2009 00:26 GMT
#38
I kinda like this song.. -.-
And i agree with 3 Lions, this song always reminds me of Savior
Along with that song "you could be happy"
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
April 16 2009 00:44 GMT
#39
Songmeanings is a good site for discussing lyrics, you just have to ignore all the nonversation like "OMFG THIS SONGS RULEZ" or "KICK ASS SONG".

To me, the song is about someone who use to be praised. They were at the top of their game and then made some bad decisions. As time passes, he loses everything he once had, and now he is sad Pretty deep for a pop song.

Still dosen't change the fact that this song is pretty much unlistenable.

Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7291 Posts
April 16 2009 00:46 GMT
#40
coldplay are cool

=p

If something sounds good it sounds good, who cares if its "mainstream" or not.

T_T
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
pirate cod
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
810 Posts
April 16 2009 00:48 GMT
#41
Because this thread is worthless - art is whatever you interpret it as - if it elicits nothing then clearly the piece isn't for you, or maybe you should culture yourself a bit. And if you're asking for an answer to a riddle then you don't deserve an answer - I'll try to explain the general onslaught against Coldplay.

They've brought absolutely nothing to music but have taken away so much (and no I don't mean money and fame). By you people listening to this mediocre, hackneyed shit you're condemning every artist with a modicum of passion and talent (this isn't in reference to Satriani). You don't even know what you like - the media just inculcates songs into your saftey zone until it begins to make you feel so comfortable you rather listen to this shit than a more worthwhile piece. So you may say, who gives a fuck - it makes me feel good. And to that I have no answer to give that would change anything. That's how I feel about the subject - but what do I know I've never heard a full song by them. teehee :x
Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
April 16 2009 00:50 GMT
#42
Youth, vitality, overconfidence, downfall, maturity
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
April 16 2009 00:51 GMT
#43
yellow is a pretty good song.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
April 16 2009 00:52 GMT
#44
On April 16 2009 09:51 rushz0rz wrote:
yellow is a pretty good song.


Yep. That entire album is great. Then they turned into shit somehow.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 16 2009 00:52 GMT
#45
Not for or against Coldplay but "Viva La Vida" is a nice song.
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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 01:04:43
April 16 2009 01:01 GMT
#46
On April 16 2009 06:55 ahrara_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 06:52 Drowsy wrote:
Hey guys, look at me! I derive my self esteem from feeling superior to people who listen to and enjoy popular music! I hope more people jump on my bandwagon, because then I won't feel so alone.



How the fuck does that change the fact that they steal songs? Seriously lol, all you can come up with is a personal attack? hahaha damn I didn't even mention shit about them being mainstream or me being better than mainstream music listeners or whatever nonsense you somehow managed to get from my posts. THEY ARE THIEVES!
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 01:15:46
April 16 2009 01:14 GMT
#47
It's mainstream music, it usually doesn't mean anything past what you read.

On April 16 2009 06:44 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
it means its a shitty song


EDIT: Actually, that song is decent. Not exceptional, but I don't think I'd quite call it "shitty" than mediocre/average.
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
April 16 2009 01:16 GMT
#48
On April 16 2009 10:01 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 06:55 ahrara_ wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:52 Drowsy wrote:
Hey guys, look at me! I derive my self esteem from feeling superior to people who listen to and enjoy popular music! I hope more people jump on my bandwagon, because then I won't feel so alone.



How the fuck does that change the fact that they steal songs? Seriously lol, all you can come up with is a personal attack? hahaha damn I didn't even mention shit about them being mainstream or me being better than mainstream music listeners or whatever nonsense you somehow managed to get from my posts. THEY ARE THIEVES!

in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 16 2009 01:27 GMT
#49
On April 16 2009 10:16 ahrara_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 10:01 Drowsy wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:55 ahrara_ wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:52 Drowsy wrote:
Hey guys, look at me! I derive my self esteem from feeling superior to people who listen to and enjoy popular music! I hope more people jump on my bandwagon, because then I won't feel so alone.



How the fuck does that change the fact that they steal songs? Seriously lol, all you can come up with is a personal attack? hahaha damn I didn't even mention shit about them being mainstream or me being better than mainstream music listeners or whatever nonsense you somehow managed to get from my posts. THEY ARE THIEVES!


Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 01:33:28
April 16 2009 01:32 GMT
#50
so much hate @.@

honestly, no one really gives a shit. a lot of people (including me) don't appreciate the fact that the song is plagiarized, but it's a good song nonetheless. so just enjoy it. unless you're that much of a coldplay antifan.

on-topic: I always thought it was an allusion to the French Revolution
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 01:33:43
April 16 2009 01:33 GMT
#51
Fuck, they 'plagiarize' and you download torrents. Whoever gets mad here is just a hypocrite.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 01:35:28
April 16 2009 01:34 GMT
#52
On April 16 2009 10:33 Cloud wrote:
Fuck, they 'plagiarize' and you download torrents. Whoever gets mad here is just a hypocrite.

I don't download torrents, mostly because my university would take away my internet forever. And it's not even remotely the same thing, artistic integrity and piracy really aren't related at all.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
edzwoo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States469 Posts
April 16 2009 01:35 GMT
#53
On April 16 2009 10:01 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 06:55 ahrara_ wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:52 Drowsy wrote:
Hey guys, look at me! I derive my self esteem from feeling superior to people who listen to and enjoy popular music! I hope more people jump on my bandwagon, because then I won't feel so alone.



How the fuck does that change the fact that they steal songs? Seriously lol, all you can come up with is a personal attack? hahaha damn I didn't even mention shit about them being mainstream or me being better than mainstream music listeners or whatever nonsense you somehow managed to get from my posts. THEY ARE THIEVES!


So there is absolutely no way that it happened to be a coincidence that the medlody of one song is similar to another?

It's a relatively basic composition of notes, not some obscure beat that nobody would have ever thought of. I don't listen to music but the claim is absolutely ridiculous imo.

Here you can check this youtube video out:



I don't think anyone copied anybody, it's just a nice progression of chords that were nice that they all happened to stumble upon.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
April 16 2009 01:37 GMT
#54
On April 16 2009 10:34 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 10:33 Cloud wrote:
Fuck, they 'plagiarize' and you download torrents. Whoever gets mad here is just a hypocrite.

I don't download torrents, mostly because my university would take away my internet forever. And it's not even remotely the same thing, artistic integrity and piracy really aren't related at all.


Its stealing. Piracy is probably even worse.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 01:39:12
April 16 2009 01:38 GMT
#55
On April 16 2009 10:34 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 10:33 Cloud wrote:
Fuck, they 'plagiarize' and you download torrents. Whoever gets mad here is just a hypocrite.

I don't download torrents, mostly because my university would take away my internet forever. And it's not even remotely the same thing, artistic integrity and piracy really aren't related at all.


On April 16 2009 10:01 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 06:55 ahrara_ wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:52 Drowsy wrote:
Hey guys, look at me! I derive my self esteem from feeling superior to people who listen to and enjoy popular music! I hope more people jump on my bandwagon, because then I won't feel so alone.



How the fuck does that change the fact that they steal songs? Seriously lol, all you can come up with is a personal attack? hahaha damn I didn't even mention shit about them being mainstream or me being better than mainstream music listeners or whatever nonsense you somehow managed to get from my posts. THEY ARE THIEVES!


?? i'm pretty sure getting something that doesn't belong to you, whether songs or lyrics, without paying for them or getting authority over it is stealing which is what thieves do last time i checked

so i'm pretty sure cloud is right on the fact that you're a hypocrite
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 16 2009 01:39 GMT
#56
On April 16 2009 10:35 edzwoo wrote:
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On April 16 2009 10:01 Drowsy wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:55 ahrara_ wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:52 Drowsy wrote:
Hey guys, look at me! I derive my self esteem from feeling superior to people who listen to and enjoy popular music! I hope more people jump on my bandwagon, because then I won't feel so alone.



How the fuck does that change the fact that they steal songs? Seriously lol, all you can come up with is a personal attack? hahaha damn I didn't even mention shit about them being mainstream or me being better than mainstream music listeners or whatever nonsense you somehow managed to get from my posts. THEY ARE THIEVES!


So there is absolutely no way that it happened to be a coincidence that the medlody of one song is similar to another?

It's a relatively basic composition of notes, not some obscure beat that nobody would have ever thought of. I don't listen to music but the claim is absolutely ridiculous imo.

Here you can check this youtube video out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL4OCL2r-ZQ&feature=related

I don't think anyone copied anybody, it's just a nice progression of chords that were nice that they all happened to stumble upon.


That's correct, I believe there is absolutely no way this is a coincidence and honestly I believe this video proves rather than refutes that assertion. Notice that the similarities between Satriani and Frances Limon are about 2-3 seconds long and at a different tempo, whereas Coldplay Satriani is longer, at the same tempo, and way more similar.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 16 2009 01:41 GMT
#57
On April 16 2009 09:48 pirate cod wrote:
Because this thread is worthless - art is whatever you interpret it as - if it elicits nothing then clearly the piece isn't for you, or maybe you should culture yourself a bit. And if you're asking for an answer to a riddle then you don't deserve an answer - I'll try to explain the general onslaught against Coldplay.

They've brought absolutely nothing to music but have taken away so much (and no I don't mean money and fame). By you people listening to this mediocre, hackneyed shit you're condemning every artist with a modicum of passion and talent (this isn't in reference to Satriani). You don't even know what you like - the media just inculcates songs into your saftey zone until it begins to make you feel so comfortable you rather listen to this shit than a more worthwhile piece. So you may say, who gives a fuck - it makes me feel good. And to that I have no answer to give that would change anything. That's how I feel about the subject - but what do I know I've never heard a full song by them. teehee :x

This post deserves some more attention, I'm done arguing with you retards. Anyone who can't see the obvious lack of integrity on Coldplay's part just isn't even worth having an intelligent discussion with.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 01:43:46
April 16 2009 01:42 GMT
#58
On April 16 2009 10:38 goldenkrnboi wrote:
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On April 16 2009 10:34 Drowsy wrote:
On April 16 2009 10:33 Cloud wrote:
Fuck, they 'plagiarize' and you download torrents. Whoever gets mad here is just a hypocrite.

I don't download torrents, mostly because my university would take away my internet forever. And it's not even remotely the same thing, artistic integrity and piracy really aren't related at all.


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On April 16 2009 10:01 Drowsy wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:55 ahrara_ wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:52 Drowsy wrote:
Hey guys, look at me! I derive my self esteem from feeling superior to people who listen to and enjoy popular music! I hope more people jump on my bandwagon, because then I won't feel so alone.



How the fuck does that change the fact that they steal songs? Seriously lol, all you can come up with is a personal attack? hahaha damn I didn't even mention shit about them being mainstream or me being better than mainstream music listeners or whatever nonsense you somehow managed to get from my posts. THEY ARE THIEVES!


?? i'm pretty sure getting something that doesn't belong to you, whether songs or lyrics, without paying for them or getting authority over it is stealing which is what thieves do last time i checked

so i'm pretty sure cloud is right on the fact that you're a hypocrite


Yeah I'm a hypocrite for not downloading torrents? Or do you mean purely semantically since I used the phrase "they are thieves". Stealing a song off the internetz is in no way the same as stealing a song, changing it around, and selling it for profit.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 01:43:53
April 16 2009 01:42 GMT
#59
hahaahah

And no, youre a liar, or just naive.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-16 01:44:23
April 16 2009 01:43 GMT
#60
On April 16 2009 10:42 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 10:38 goldenkrnboi wrote:
On April 16 2009 10:34 Drowsy wrote:
On April 16 2009 10:33 Cloud wrote:
Fuck, they 'plagiarize' and you download torrents. Whoever gets mad here is just a hypocrite.

I don't download torrents, mostly because my university would take away my internet forever. And it's not even remotely the same thing, artistic integrity and piracy really aren't related at all.


On April 16 2009 10:01 Drowsy wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:55 ahrara_ wrote:
On April 16 2009 06:52 Drowsy wrote:
Hey guys, look at me! I derive my self esteem from feeling superior to people who listen to and enjoy popular music! I hope more people jump on my bandwagon, because then I won't feel so alone.



How the fuck does that change the fact that they steal songs? Seriously lol, all you can come up with is a personal attack? hahaha damn I didn't even mention shit about them being mainstream or me being better than mainstream music listeners or whatever nonsense you somehow managed to get from my posts. THEY ARE THIEVES!


?? i'm pretty sure getting something that doesn't belong to you, whether songs or lyrics, without paying for them or getting authority over it is stealing which is what thieves do last time i checked

so i'm pretty sure cloud is right on the fact that you're a hypocrite


Yeah I'm a hypocrite for not downloading torrents?


my point

your head


WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH\


hint: i bolded part of your quote for a reason
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