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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 04 2009 20:29 GMT
#1881
Nah, United will still be at the top =D
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
August 05 2009 02:55 GMT
#1882
when did chelsea become the top?
Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
August 05 2009 03:17 GMT
#1883
On August 05 2009 11:55 white_box921 wrote:
when did chelsea become the top?


They looked REALLY strong in preseason with Ancelotti coaching them. His Milan team played largely without wingers and Chelsea's squad looks perfect for that sort of style. They're favorites now imo after Liverpool sold alonso.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 05 2009 03:25 GMT
#1884
Turtle style yea. Ancelotti knows what he's doing and Chelsea hasn't lost anyone this summer so by default I'd say they are favorite. I am curious why they haven't bought anyone though, not even Pirlo.
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
August 05 2009 05:32 GMT
#1885
On August 05 2009 12:17 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2009 11:55 white_box921 wrote:
when did chelsea become the top?


They looked REALLY strong in preseason with Ancelotti coaching them. His Milan team played largely without wingers and Chelsea's squad looks perfect for that sort of style. They're favorites now imo after Liverpool sold alonso.


That is a problem, why anyone really thinks liverpool has a chance is something I cannot comprehend. They are kind of a two man team, and a title won't be won like that, I will not say anything bad about liverpool (as long as rafa stay) if they win the title with the current team, be it alonso or without.

I still think United is a top team, as long as their defensive unit stay the same. I also think Arsenal got their upgrade with Adebayor and Toure sold.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
August 05 2009 05:59 GMT
#1886
imo that "two man team" about liverpool is very false, they had a lot of worldclass players like Xabi Alonso , Masherano, even Reyna that would be starters in ANY team in the world. they just don't get the credit they deserve because Gerrard and Torres are always getting all the attention specially when they score the goals.
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-05 06:16:57
August 05 2009 06:16 GMT
#1887
yes, I agree that Alonso and Masch are world class players, but they don't WIN games. Maybe they do once in a while, but definately not often enough. And both of them are reasons why liverpool don't suck defensively. lets me be honest, carragher is overrated, and their side backs are relatively trash compare to the other top 4 last season. Reina is...... I rate him as a keeper, but he is too short to survive in the EPL, as we have seen quite a number of times.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 05 2009 17:24 GMT
#1888
Aquilani is pretty good...wtf
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-05 19:54:58
August 05 2009 19:40 GMT
#1889
On August 05 2009 15:16 white_box921 wrote:
yes, I agree that Alonso and Masch are world class players, but they don't WIN games. Maybe they do once in a while, but definately not often enough. And both of them are reasons why liverpool don't suck defensively. lets me be honest, carragher is overrated, and their side backs are relatively trash compare to the other top 4 last season. Reina is...... I rate him as a keeper, but he is too short to survive in the EPL, as we have seen quite a number of times.

if you refer "win games" as scoring goals, then no they don't. But im sure Gerrard / Torres woudn't had "won " those games if it wasn't for a perfectly placed ball from Alonso or Masherano doing all the dirty work , tackles, rescue balls and feed it to the forwards or to Xabi alonso. This pieces are key for a team to work. But yeah i Agree the backline is not as good as Chelsea, Man.U ,etc. but they are solid at least imo.
Dunno what will they do to replace Alonso tbh i heard they bought Aquilani, but guess we'll have to wait to see.

btw: Man.U vs Valencia for anyone interested
http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch1.html
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
August 05 2009 20:59 GMT
#1890
i agree and understand and do not doubt the fact that without alonso/masch, torres and gerrard won't have the oppourtunity to 'win' games. But liverpool are a much better cup team because of their style and players, they draw more.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28906 Posts
August 06 2009 16:05 GMT
#1891
milan made a great purchase at last ;p
huntelaar is so good, wish he went to EPL instead but oh well.
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UbRi
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Italy603 Posts
August 06 2009 18:06 GMT
#1892
aquilani is classy but he's always injuried, and he's not excellent athletically, dunno if he'll work well in the EPL, i hope for him he'll find some playing time this year
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 06 2009 19:28 GMT
#1893
On August 07 2009 01:05 Liquid`Drone wrote:
milan made a great purchase at last ;p
huntelaar is so good, wish he went to EPL instead but oh well.


Yeah, Milan needed something. But I was thinking he'd go Arsenal but I guess not.
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
August 06 2009 20:56 GMT
#1894
On August 07 2009 04:28 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 01:05 Liquid`Drone wrote:
milan made a great purchase at last ;p
huntelaar is so good, wish he went to EPL instead but oh well.


Yeah, Milan needed something. But I was thinking he'd go Arsenal but I guess not.


Yeah maybe now they will win at least pre-season game lol.

Btw Man U beat Valencia 2-0 which I think is a pretty good result. Liverpool also played a team called Oslo I think and beat them with the same score. Liverpool has definately got some major defensive problems now that will hurt them against teams like Chelsea and Man U.

Another interesting note is that Man City lost to Rangers (SPL champions). I guess their all-star signings still can't prevent them from being scored on 3 times, with 1 of those goals coming as a game winner from a 39 year old Ranger forward.
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Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
August 06 2009 23:37 GMT
#1895
On August 05 2009 12:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Turtle style yea. Ancelotti knows what he's doing and Chelsea hasn't lost anyone this summer so by default I'd say they are favorite. I am curious why they haven't bought anyone though, not even Pirlo.

They've bought Yuri Zhirkov from CSKA A classy left winger/wing back.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
August 07 2009 00:33 GMT
#1896
On August 05 2009 12:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Turtle style yea. Ancelotti knows what he's doing and Chelsea hasn't lost anyone this summer so by default I'd say they are favorite. I am curious why they haven't bought anyone though, not even Pirlo.


Dude, go back and look at the Chelsea squad again.

If those players can synergise and play to their full potential with each giving EQUAL amounts towards a team effort then the Premier League is as good as won already.

Chelsea doesn't need more players, they need more teamwork. If they can get some combinations/chemistry going they're set.

Here's to hoping they do, coz I'm sick of Man U. and Fergie. I hope they bomb this year and next year and nex year... anyone that's prepared to sell ronaldo for 80 million pounds is an idiot! That's the second time Fergie's ego leads to a HUGE player exiting the club.

Think about it, you sell ronaldo for 80 million pounds and you'll need AT LEAST half as much money to buy someone that can replace him. That's just the transfer fee! Then you'll have to pay a huge wage as well. It completely defeats the purpose of the sale in the first place!!!!! Honestly, no one can run and pass like ronaldo. Forget the goals and the flashy tricks, the guy is just a NIGHTMARE for the defense....

BLEH! I'm cut and I'm not even a Man U. supporter!
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28906 Posts
August 07 2009 00:35 GMT
#1897
On August 07 2009 05:56 kidd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 04:28 Klogon wrote:
On August 07 2009 01:05 Liquid`Drone wrote:
milan made a great purchase at last ;p
huntelaar is so good, wish he went to EPL instead but oh well.


Yeah, Milan needed something. But I was thinking he'd go Arsenal but I guess not.


Yeah maybe now they will win at least pre-season game lol.

Btw Man U beat Valencia 2-0 which I think is a pretty good result. Liverpool also played a team called Oslo I think and beat them with the same score. Liverpool has definately got some major defensive problems now that will hurt them against teams like Chelsea and Man U.

Another interesting note is that Man City lost to Rangers (SPL champions). I guess their all-star signings still can't prevent them from being scored on 3 times, with 1 of those goals coming as a game winner from a 39 year old Ranger forward.


haha Oslo
thats funny, they're actually called Lyn, however they are from oslo. :D

lyn sucks ass tho, like 8 points behind the second to last team in the norwegian league
liverpool winning 2-0 against them is more reason for discomfort than comfort, honestly. ;p
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white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
August 07 2009 02:25 GMT
#1898
god, why is every team in the EPL not buy players and even MU and Arsenal are selling!!! hm..... I hope that people realise we are actually in quite a bad economical situation right now and every club in the EPL has debt. At the end the the day, it is a business.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 07 2009 02:43 GMT
#1899
On August 07 2009 09:33 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2009 12:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Turtle style yea. Ancelotti knows what he's doing and Chelsea hasn't lost anyone this summer so by default I'd say they are favorite. I am curious why they haven't bought anyone though, not even Pirlo.


Dude, go back and look at the Chelsea squad again.

If those players can synergise and play to their full potential with each giving EQUAL amounts towards a team effort then the Premier League is as good as won already.

Chelsea doesn't need more players, they need more teamwork. If they can get some combinations/chemistry going they're set.

Here's to hoping they do, coz I'm sick of Man U. and Fergie. I hope they bomb this year and next year and nex year... anyone that's prepared to sell ronaldo for 80 million pounds is an idiot! That's the second time Fergie's ego leads to a HUGE player exiting the club.

Think about it, you sell ronaldo for 80 million pounds and you'll need AT LEAST half as much money to buy someone that can replace him. That's just the transfer fee! Then you'll have to pay a huge wage as well. It completely defeats the purpose of the sale in the first place!!!!! Honestly, no one can run and pass like ronaldo. Forget the goals and the flashy tricks, the guy is just a NIGHTMARE for the defense....

BLEH! I'm cut and I'm not even a Man U. supporter!


Ronaldo wanted to leave, so he left. And doing so, he broke a transfer record. What's the big deal? lol
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
August 07 2009 03:39 GMT
#1900
On August 07 2009 09:33 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2009 12:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Turtle style yea. Ancelotti knows what he's doing and Chelsea hasn't lost anyone this summer so by default I'd say they are favorite. I am curious why they haven't bought anyone though, not even Pirlo.


Dude, go back and look at the Chelsea squad again.

If those players can synergise and play to their full potential with each giving EQUAL amounts towards a team effort then the Premier League is as good as won already.

Chelsea doesn't need more players, they need more teamwork. If they can get some combinations/chemistry going they're set.

Here's to hoping they do, coz I'm sick of Man U. and Fergie. I hope they bomb this year and next year and nex year... anyone that's prepared to sell ronaldo for 80 million pounds is an idiot! That's the second time Fergie's ego leads to a HUGE player exiting the club.

Think about it, you sell ronaldo for 80 million pounds and you'll need AT LEAST half as much money to buy someone that can replace him. That's just the transfer fee! Then you'll have to pay a huge wage as well. It completely defeats the purpose of the sale in the first place!!!!! Honestly, no one can run and pass like ronaldo. Forget the goals and the flashy tricks, the guy is just a NIGHTMARE for the defense....

BLEH! I'm cut and I'm not even a Man U. supporter!

lol
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