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On June 25 2009 05:35 Pape wrote:
Every Spanish player has finished a season of about 2 top leagues matches a week and is worn out to the bone. While in USA they just started their season and only thing they practice is conditioning and not to mention this is the biggest game they will play in their life. Spain doesn't even care about the confed cup, I don't even care about it, infact everybody in europe has their eye on the Euro Under 21 finals not this exhibition tournament. If you look Italy and Spain made all of their young players available to the Under 21 team before the confed cup selection anyways...
good call on this, i know for sure italy would have called 3 or 4 players from u21, as for spain i guess it should be the same, which are the youngsters from spain that could've been called? I only know Bojan
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Spain doesn't have any promising youngsters in their u21 squad, Italy are the big favourites to win it I think.
Germany has nice players too
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lol that is a weak argument Pape.
Spain may be off a long season but the only players on the pitch today that is in MLS is Ricardo Clark and Donovan.
The only real fresh face that played today was Bocanegra and he's coming off injury.
Not to mention Altidore is out of form from surgery and Spector has been on and off injury for forever.
The USA is a physical team, there's no denying that. Conditioning is one of our real true strength (surprise surprise, US produces great athletes) but look at this stat:
http://www.fifa.com/confederationscup/statistics/players/distanceandspeed.html
6 out of the top 7 most distance covered is by the USA.
Even if you take away the 4th game, the top 3 spots still belongs to Bradley, Dempsey, and Donovan.
Only Xavi cracked the top ten.
The US chases every game they play so believe me when I say they're tired.
Plus Spain got to rest 3 days and US only two lol.
Now it's true that the US cares much more about beating Spain then vice-versa.
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On June 25 2009 05:45 SuperArc wrote:
Spain doesn't have any promising youngsters in their u21 squad, Italy are the big favourites to win it I think.
Germany has nice players too
Diego Capel, Bojan, Iván Marcano, Javi Garcia, Javi Martinez, Raul Garcia, Azpilicueta
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On June 25 2009 05:35 Pape wrote:
Every Spanish player has finished a season of about 2 top leagues matches a week and is worn out to the bone. While in USA they just started their season and only thing they practice is conditioning and not to mention this is the biggest game they will play in their life. Spain doesn't even care about the confed cup, I don't even care about it, infact everybody in europe has their eye on the Euro Under 21 finals not this exhibition tournament. If you look Italy and Spain made all of their young players available to the Under 21 team before the confed cup selection anyways...
You say that, but look at the Spanish team.
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Yeah, it wasn't a red. Nor of the three they got were. How the fuck does a ref kick somebody out of a final with such a red card? It's retarded.
Spain wasn't able to find a way to score and USA had the luck needed to score with their chances, that's football.
I hope Brazil loses against SA, I want a Spain vs Brazil so badly =(
Spanish U21 that could or have been with the top team: Bojan (striker), Capel (winger), Jurado (Offensive Middlefielder), Raúl García (Middlefielder), Granero (Offensive Middlefielder/fake winger)
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WOW what an upset. Well played USA.
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On June 25 2009 05:45 SuperArc wrote:
Spain doesn't have any promising youngsters in their u21 squad,
You must be kidding, man...
ALMERIA: Chico.
ATHLETIC: Javi Martínez.
ATLÉTICO DE MADRID: Raúl García.
BARCELONA: Bojan.
ESPANYOL: Sergio Sánchez y Marc Torrejón.
GETAFE: Granero.
MÁLAGA: Adrián López.
MALLORCA: Mario Suárez y Jurado.
NEWCASTLE: Xisco.
OSASUNA: Azpilicueta y Monreal.
RECREATIVO DE HUELVA: Roberto Jiménez Gago y Sisi.
REAL MADRID: Adán, Torres, Javi García.
RACING: Marcano y Jonathan Pereira.
SEVILLA: Diego Capel.
VALLADOLID: Sergio Asenjo y Pedro León.
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I watched their games, I rate on performances not clubs.
but yeah, I take it back, Spain has good young players
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So playing at la Liga the whole season is pointless, it's more valuable 3 bad matches to rate them.
I think you're in a bad mood.
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I know capel and bojan and they're pretty good, I expecially like capel, i think he's underrated, i don't know the others but i don't follow a lot la Liga, anyway, considering the talents that the major team has in the bench (silva, mata, cazorla..) i don't think you have to worry about lack of talents
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On June 25 2009 06:04 UbRi wrote:
I know capel and bojan and they're pretty good, I expecially like capel, i think he's underrated, i don't know the others but i don't follow a lot la Liga, anyway, considering the talents that the major team has in the bench (silva, mata, cazorla..) i don't think you have to worry about lack of talents
Capel is the next big player that Real Madrid and Barcelona will be fighting for..
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Sadly our wing daggers Silva and Iniesta were injured =/ well, that's football. I think is a good thing we didn't win this, they would have felt too confident otherwise.
What really pisses me off is that I've been watching this shity tournament to watch a Brazil vs Spain T_T
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On June 25 2009 06:14 Telemako wrote:
Sadly our wing daggers Silva and Iniesta were injured =/ well, that's football. I think is a good thing we didn't win this, they would have felt too confident otherwise.
What really pisses me off is that I've been watching this shity tournament to watch a Brazil vs Spain T_T
But it´s ok to fail
We were like in clouds from Eurocup´s success, so it´s time to get back to earth and still learn a bit of defeat
And still I feel optimistic for this great young generation we have
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imo Spain really neededed Silva and Iniesta. To give more posession and create chances in U.S defence and at least try to break it with balls to their strikers, which was almost impossible in that game.
Neverless give Bob Bradley all the credit, very discipline tactically and effective played by the us, very excited for the final
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On June 25 2009 05:33 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2009 05:28 Klogon wrote:
SuperArc, you're either going to stop being an idiot or you're gone for a week. Sure no problem. I'd just like to know what I've done to be called as one.
On June 25 2009 05:20 SuperArc wrote:
Spain have and always will suck in big tournaments!!
Chokers!!
On June 25 2009 05:45 SuperArc wrote:
Spain doesn't have any promising youngsters in their u21 squad, Italy are the big favourites to win it I think.
Germany has nice players too
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spain doesn't have promising young players? apparently he doesn't know anything about football.
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Damn I was so mad at Del Bosque. He is really a wuss. At min 75 or so he should have pulled out Capdevila for Lorente and play 3-4-3 with ramos as central defender. US had no more forwards on the field and they weren't even trying to counter anymore!
EDIT: about the spain's young players discussion: who of the U21 team would have been in the confecup? Mata is U21 and he took a possible Capel spot just because Iniesta wasn't playing. I think none of the current U21 players in spain deserve a spot with the Absolute team.
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I know nothing about soccer so that might explain why this Q is dumb but, why doesn't the US team play Freddy Adu more? Isn't he supposed to be a really good young player? I would think getting him as much experience vs good teams as possible would be good for his development. Not to mention what he can bring to the table.
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