2008 US Presidential Election - Page 76

On May 31 2008 07:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Don't like this, another pastor won't shut up.

Utrecht [Hillary's lawyer at the RBC] also made clear that the campaign will not accept a resolution in Michigan that awards Obama any delegates, because the Illinois senator took his name off the ballot there.

On May 31 2008 06:52 a-game wrote:


oh my. we all have a relative who comes to mind when we see this picture, don't we?

Harold Ickes and Tina Flournoy made the following statement this evening:

Today's results are a victory for the people of Florida who will have a voice in selecting our Party's nominee and will see its delegates seated at our party's convention. The decision by the Rules and Bylaws Committee honors the votes that were cast by the people of Florida and allocates the delegates accordingly.

We strongly object to the Committee's decision to undercut its own rules in seating Michigan's delegates without reflecting the votes of the people of Michigan.

The Committee awarded to Senator Obama not only the delegates won by Uncommitted, but four of the delegates won by Senator Clinton. This decision violates the bedrock principles of our democracy and our Party.

We reserve the right to challenge this decision before the Credentials Committee and appeal for a fair allocation of Michigan's delegates that actually reflect the votes as they were cast.

A Clinton Hurricane Hits Outside the DNC Hearing Room

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Clinton campaign surrogate Lanny Davis stood outside the circle and interrupted, raising his voice in protest that the Clinton campaign had agreed to anything less than a 100% seating of the delegates at 100% of their strength.

Nelson noted that he was speaking "on behalf of the voters of Florida," not on behalf of the Clinton campaign.

"They're misrepresenting our stance," Davis said repeatedly.

Then Arthenia L. Joyner, Clinton's designated Florida representative, approached the circle.

"The campaign is only for 100%," Joyner said.

Davis and Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Ohio, a fiery supporter of Sen. Clinton's, exchanged some heated words with Ausman after the Florida DNC member suggested they had no business speaking.

Davis took issue with some from the Florida unity group saying the Obama campaign's concession was "generous" since Clinton would net 19 delegates.

"That is not generous when they take away 50%," Davis said. "That is spin!"

What's wrong with netting 19 delegates? "It's 19 less than the people of Florida voted," Davis said.

This was more than Florida DNC member Ausman could apparently take. "I can say they're being generous," Ausman said of the Obama campaign, "and I'm the one who filed the petition."

"Are you a paid staff member for Clinton?" Ausman asked Davis.

"Actually I'm just a friend," said Davis.

"Are you a designated representative of the Clinton campaign?" Ausman, who may be a foot taller than Davis, asked.

"I am not," Davis said.

"Why don't you let the designated representative speak for Clinton and you be silent?" Ausman said, more a statement than a question. "Are you from Florida?"

"Why don't you go about your business?" Jones asked Ausman.

"As a matter of fact I will not be silent," Davis said, "you're not going to silence me."

"You had your interview," interjected Jones. "Why don't you let someone else be interviewed? I am the designated representative for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. My name is Stephanie Tubbs Jones and I represent the great state of Ohio.

"We don't expect that the Obama campaign will be so 'generous' as to 'give' us the 19 delegates," Jones continued. "It is in fact more generous and more appropriate to count all the votes as they were cast."

Jones would not comment on the Clinton campaign's position that Obama be awarded zero delegates and zero popular votes from Michigan, where his name was not on the ballot.

On June 03 2008 06:42 tiffany wrote:
the news of hillary supporters willing to vote mccain instead of obama come november is saddening and worrying, albeit anecdotal

On June 03 2008 06:42 tiffany wrote:
the news of hillary supporters willing to vote mccain instead of obama come november is saddening and worrying, albeit anecdotal

Even if Obama hits that magic number of 2118, that does not mean the Clinton campaign will consider the race over. The New York senator picked up two new superdelegates today, but she is 205.5 delegates away from the nomination.

"I think its pretty clear that she is not conceding." Clinton spokesperson Mo Elleithee said today, per ABC News' Eloise Harper. "I think its pretty clear that she is staying in this race. She is going, in the coming days, to be aggressively courting uncommitted superdelegates aggressively courting unpledged delegates, making the case to them that she is a candidate best ready to take on John McCain."