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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 15 2014 15:04 GMT
#7341
On October 16 2014 00:03 GumBa wrote:
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On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 Sakat wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 Sakat wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:52 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:51 GumBa wrote:
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Their fanbase is nothing compared to Idra Scarlett Stephano and Naniwa

Ah you're talking only about fanbase, ok. Then yes it's obviously foreigners that draw bias, but being Zerg has nothing to do with it, it's mainly a question of personality. (see the fanbase of Snute or VortiX)


Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX



People were hyping Vortix to win WCS EU in season 1... That is pretty biased. Just because he was a foreigner that beat some Koreans. The same happened with Bunny in season 3.

Yeah but we're talking about heavy bias, the kind of bias that makes people say that their favorite player, even if he's retired, is still at a top-foreigner level, or that he could come back best foreigner in two weeks, or that BM behavior is OK for him since he's the best foreigner, or that this specific MU/unit is imba just because the player doesn't like it, etc... VortiX hype was nothing of that



Sure. I suspect you don't like Nainwa then? Neither do I. BM-ed a little too much.

I respect him as a player, and as a caster. I downright hate the attitude he took to justify his losses, and his despise towards other races when he struggled


Doesn't HuK also complain a lot about losing?

Constant excuses. Hate his playstyle. Dislike his personality

He's been working on his playstyle hasn't he? Fewer 8-gate +1 Blinks, for example.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 15 2014 15:05 GMT
#7342
On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:59 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 Sakat wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:52 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Ah you're talking only about fanbase, ok. Then yes it's obviously foreigners that draw bias, but being Zerg has nothing to do with it, it's mainly a question of personality. (see the fanbase of Snute or VortiX)


Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX



People were hyping Vortix to win WCS EU in season 1... That is pretty biased. Just because he was a foreigner that beat some Koreans. The same happened with Bunny in season 3.

Yeah but we're talking about heavy bias, the kind of bias that makes people say that their favorite player, even if he's retired, is still at a top-foreigner level, or that he could come back best foreigner in two weeks, or that BM behavior is OK for him since he's the best foreigner, or that this specific MU/unit is imba just because the player doesn't like it, etc... VortiX hype was nothing of that

VortiX won a Vasacast a little while before his Ro8, and then got clapped by Jjakji.

Still nothing close to Nani/Stephano kind of bias. I mean now no one is saying that VortiX is the best foreigner that ever lived and will be so until the end of SC2 of things of this kind

Stephano at least managed to back up his hype with some sort of result.
Naniwa... I'm not too sure where all that bias came from.

He got double gsl ro8's

So did Chinro.

Easier time period. And jinro is a legend for that
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 15 2014 15:05 GMT
#7343
On October 16 2014 00:03 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 23:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:52 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:51 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:47 GumBa wrote:
It seems to be foreign zergs that draw the masses and bias. First IdrA then Scarlett

Yeah, obviously people like Naniwa, Taeja, Bomber, INnoVation, etc etc never draw bias

Their fanbase is nothing compared to Idra Scarlett Stephano and Naniwa

Ah you're talking only about fanbase, ok. Then yes it's obviously foreigners that draw bias, but being Zerg has nothing to do with it, it's mainly a question of personality. (see the fanbase of Snute or VortiX)


Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX


Oh sorry I misread what you said. Snute's fanbase is a lot less rabid it seems usually, though they were pretty loud when he was beating Flash (but that was justified). I wouldn't call his fanbase small though. And if it's an issue of personality, does Scarlett have much of that or is it just the "girl appeal"


She's shy just as the next Korean so don't tell me the bias comes from "personality" ^^ I don't think being a girl has anything to do with it either tho. It's just the foreigner thing imo.

She's less and less shy. Calling out The Templar live probably made her some fans (;
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 15 2014 15:05 GMT
#7344
On October 16 2014 00:03 Silvana wrote:
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On October 15 2014 23:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:52 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:51 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:47 GumBa wrote:
It seems to be foreign zergs that draw the masses and bias. First IdrA then Scarlett

Yeah, obviously people like Naniwa, Taeja, Bomber, INnoVation, etc etc never draw bias

Their fanbase is nothing compared to Idra Scarlett Stephano and Naniwa

Ah you're talking only about fanbase, ok. Then yes it's obviously foreigners that draw bias, but being Zerg has nothing to do with it, it's mainly a question of personality. (see the fanbase of Snute or VortiX)


Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX


Oh sorry I misread what you said. Snute's fanbase is a lot less rabid it seems usually, though they were pretty loud when he was beating Flash (but that was justified). I wouldn't call his fanbase small though. And if it's an issue of personality, does Scarlett have much of that or is it just the "girl appeal"


She's shy just as the next Korean so don't tell me the bias comes from "personality" ^^ I don't think being a girl has anything to do with it either tho. It's just the foreigner thing imo.


I wasn't around the scene then, but when she first started winning wasn't she the most shy, painfully awkward person ever? Her personality should have been detrimental really
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 15 2014 15:05 GMT
#7345
On October 16 2014 00:05 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:03 Silvana wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:52 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:51 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:47 GumBa wrote:
It seems to be foreign zergs that draw the masses and bias. First IdrA then Scarlett

Yeah, obviously people like Naniwa, Taeja, Bomber, INnoVation, etc etc never draw bias

Their fanbase is nothing compared to Idra Scarlett Stephano and Naniwa

Ah you're talking only about fanbase, ok. Then yes it's obviously foreigners that draw bias, but being Zerg has nothing to do with it, it's mainly a question of personality. (see the fanbase of Snute or VortiX)


Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX


Oh sorry I misread what you said. Snute's fanbase is a lot less rabid it seems usually, though they were pretty loud when he was beating Flash (but that was justified). I wouldn't call his fanbase small though. And if it's an issue of personality, does Scarlett have much of that or is it just the "girl appeal"


She's shy just as the next Korean so don't tell me the bias comes from "personality" ^^ I don't think being a girl has anything to do with it either tho. It's just the foreigner thing imo.

She's less and less shy. Calling out The Templar live probably made her some fans (;

I'm surprised that he was even on the LR thread at all. Wasn't he tending to his stables or something? :p
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 15:06:16
October 15 2014 15:05 GMT
#7346
On October 16 2014 00:03 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 23:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:52 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:51 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:47 GumBa wrote:
It seems to be foreign zergs that draw the masses and bias. First IdrA then Scarlett

Yeah, obviously people like Naniwa, Taeja, Bomber, INnoVation, etc etc never draw bias

Their fanbase is nothing compared to Idra Scarlett Stephano and Naniwa

Ah you're talking only about fanbase, ok. Then yes it's obviously foreigners that draw bias, but being Zerg has nothing to do with it, it's mainly a question of personality. (see the fanbase of Snute or VortiX)


Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX


Oh sorry I misread what you said. Snute's fanbase is a lot less rabid it seems usually, though they were pretty loud when he was beating Flash (but that was justified). I wouldn't call his fanbase small though. And if it's an issue of personality, does Scarlett have much of that or is it just the "girl appeal"


She's shy just as the next Korean so don't tell me the bias comes from "personality" ^^ I don't think being a girl has anything to do with it either tho. It's just the foreigner thing imo.


Yes it does. You're no teanager male that's why you don't think so. But i see your point and agree with it (except for the girl part)

But when i see younglings talk about Sc2, they talk scarlett 'cause #Grills. It matters. That's why you know some players like Aphrodite, Barbie etc... and not some masters guy that joined a team as a hope
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
October 15 2014 15:06 GMT
#7347
On October 16 2014 00:05 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:59 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 Sakat wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
[quote]

Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX



People were hyping Vortix to win WCS EU in season 1... That is pretty biased. Just because he was a foreigner that beat some Koreans. The same happened with Bunny in season 3.

Yeah but we're talking about heavy bias, the kind of bias that makes people say that their favorite player, even if he's retired, is still at a top-foreigner level, or that he could come back best foreigner in two weeks, or that BM behavior is OK for him since he's the best foreigner, or that this specific MU/unit is imba just because the player doesn't like it, etc... VortiX hype was nothing of that

VortiX won a Vasacast a little while before his Ro8, and then got clapped by Jjakji.

Still nothing close to Nani/Stephano kind of bias. I mean now no one is saying that VortiX is the best foreigner that ever lived and will be so until the end of SC2 of things of this kind

Stephano at least managed to back up his hype with some sort of result.
Naniwa... I'm not too sure where all that bias came from.

He got double gsl ro8's

So did Chinro.

Easier time period. And jinro is a legend for that

I hate it when people bring that up. Everyone was worse
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 15 2014 15:06 GMT
#7348
On October 16 2014 00:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:03 Silvana wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:52 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:51 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:47 GumBa wrote:
It seems to be foreign zergs that draw the masses and bias. First IdrA then Scarlett

Yeah, obviously people like Naniwa, Taeja, Bomber, INnoVation, etc etc never draw bias

Their fanbase is nothing compared to Idra Scarlett Stephano and Naniwa

Ah you're talking only about fanbase, ok. Then yes it's obviously foreigners that draw bias, but being Zerg has nothing to do with it, it's mainly a question of personality. (see the fanbase of Snute or VortiX)


Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX


Oh sorry I misread what you said. Snute's fanbase is a lot less rabid it seems usually, though they were pretty loud when he was beating Flash (but that was justified). I wouldn't call his fanbase small though. And if it's an issue of personality, does Scarlett have much of that or is it just the "girl appeal"


She's shy just as the next Korean so don't tell me the bias comes from "personality" ^^ I don't think being a girl has anything to do with it either tho. It's just the foreigner thing imo.


I wasn't around the scene then, but when she first started winning wasn't she the most shy, painfully awkward person ever? Her personality should have been detrimental really


I think that people got that impression after a Hot_Bid interview; which we know isn't a reliable means of determining one's personality.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 15 2014 15:06 GMT
#7349
On October 16 2014 00:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:03 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 Sakat wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 Sakat wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:52 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Ah you're talking only about fanbase, ok. Then yes it's obviously foreigners that draw bias, but being Zerg has nothing to do with it, it's mainly a question of personality. (see the fanbase of Snute or VortiX)


Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX



People were hyping Vortix to win WCS EU in season 1... That is pretty biased. Just because he was a foreigner that beat some Koreans. The same happened with Bunny in season 3.

Yeah but we're talking about heavy bias, the kind of bias that makes people say that their favorite player, even if he's retired, is still at a top-foreigner level, or that he could come back best foreigner in two weeks, or that BM behavior is OK for him since he's the best foreigner, or that this specific MU/unit is imba just because the player doesn't like it, etc... VortiX hype was nothing of that



Sure. I suspect you don't like Nainwa then? Neither do I. BM-ed a little too much.

I respect him as a player, and as a caster. I downright hate the attitude he took to justify his losses, and his despise towards other races when he struggled


Doesn't HuK also complain a lot about losing?

Constant excuses. Hate his playstyle. Dislike his personality

He's been working on his playstyle hasn't he? Fewer 8-gate +1 Blinks, for example.

Still dislike him. He also pisses me off in that kingston advert they used to plax xD
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 15 2014 15:06 GMT
#7350
On October 16 2014 00:06 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:59 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 Sakat wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX



People were hyping Vortix to win WCS EU in season 1... That is pretty biased. Just because he was a foreigner that beat some Koreans. The same happened with Bunny in season 3.

Yeah but we're talking about heavy bias, the kind of bias that makes people say that their favorite player, even if he's retired, is still at a top-foreigner level, or that he could come back best foreigner in two weeks, or that BM behavior is OK for him since he's the best foreigner, or that this specific MU/unit is imba just because the player doesn't like it, etc... VortiX hype was nothing of that

VortiX won a Vasacast a little while before his Ro8, and then got clapped by Jjakji.

Still nothing close to Nani/Stephano kind of bias. I mean now no one is saying that VortiX is the best foreigner that ever lived and will be so until the end of SC2 of things of this kind

Stephano at least managed to back up his hype with some sort of result.
Naniwa... I'm not too sure where all that bias came from.

He got double gsl ro8's

So did Chinro.

Easier time period. And jinro is a legend for that

I hate it when people bring that up. Everyone was worse


I love the icon by the way. One of the few times I can say to people "my icon can beat up your icon."
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
October 15 2014 15:07 GMT
#7351
On October 16 2014 00:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:06 Lorning wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:59 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 Sakat wrote:
[quote]


People were hyping Vortix to win WCS EU in season 1... That is pretty biased. Just because he was a foreigner that beat some Koreans. The same happened with Bunny in season 3.

Yeah but we're talking about heavy bias, the kind of bias that makes people say that their favorite player, even if he's retired, is still at a top-foreigner level, or that he could come back best foreigner in two weeks, or that BM behavior is OK for him since he's the best foreigner, or that this specific MU/unit is imba just because the player doesn't like it, etc... VortiX hype was nothing of that

VortiX won a Vasacast a little while before his Ro8, and then got clapped by Jjakji.

Still nothing close to Nani/Stephano kind of bias. I mean now no one is saying that VortiX is the best foreigner that ever lived and will be so until the end of SC2 of things of this kind

Stephano at least managed to back up his hype with some sort of result.
Naniwa... I'm not too sure where all that bias came from.

He got double gsl ro8's

So did Chinro.

Easier time period. And jinro is a legend for that

I hate it when people bring that up. Everyone was worse


I love the icon by the way. One of the few times I can say to people "my icon can beat up your icon."

I got my BC icon back earlier today, but it changed again after I got more powers :x
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 15 2014 15:07 GMT
#7352
On October 16 2014 00:06 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:59 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 Sakat wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX



People were hyping Vortix to win WCS EU in season 1... That is pretty biased. Just because he was a foreigner that beat some Koreans. The same happened with Bunny in season 3.

Yeah but we're talking about heavy bias, the kind of bias that makes people say that their favorite player, even if he's retired, is still at a top-foreigner level, or that he could come back best foreigner in two weeks, or that BM behavior is OK for him since he's the best foreigner, or that this specific MU/unit is imba just because the player doesn't like it, etc... VortiX hype was nothing of that

VortiX won a Vasacast a little while before his Ro8, and then got clapped by Jjakji.

Still nothing close to Nani/Stephano kind of bias. I mean now no one is saying that VortiX is the best foreigner that ever lived and will be so until the end of SC2 of things of this kind

Stephano at least managed to back up his hype with some sort of result.
Naniwa... I'm not too sure where all that bias came from.

He got double gsl ro8's

So did Chinro.

Easier time period. And jinro is a legend for that

I hate it when people bring that up. Everyone was worse


Yeah everyone were equally bad at this time.
And we will say that for today playstill in a few years too
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 15 2014 15:08 GMT
#7353
On October 16 2014 00:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
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On October 16 2014 00:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:03 Silvana wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:52 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:51 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:47 GumBa wrote:
It seems to be foreign zergs that draw the masses and bias. First IdrA then Scarlett

Yeah, obviously people like Naniwa, Taeja, Bomber, INnoVation, etc etc never draw bias

Their fanbase is nothing compared to Idra Scarlett Stephano and Naniwa

Ah you're talking only about fanbase, ok. Then yes it's obviously foreigners that draw bias, but being Zerg has nothing to do with it, it's mainly a question of personality. (see the fanbase of Snute or VortiX)


Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX


Oh sorry I misread what you said. Snute's fanbase is a lot less rabid it seems usually, though they were pretty loud when he was beating Flash (but that was justified). I wouldn't call his fanbase small though. And if it's an issue of personality, does Scarlett have much of that or is it just the "girl appeal"


She's shy just as the next Korean so don't tell me the bias comes from "personality" ^^ I don't think being a girl has anything to do with it either tho. It's just the foreigner thing imo.


I wasn't around the scene then, but when she first started winning wasn't she the most shy, painfully awkward person ever? Her personality should have been detrimental really


I think that people got that impression after a Hot_Bid interview; which we know isn't a reliable means of determining one's personality.


I mean, even on stage in real interviews she was the "one word answers" type and was barely audible
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 15 2014 15:09 GMT
#7354
On October 16 2014 00:06 Lorning wrote:
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On October 16 2014 00:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:59 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 Sakat wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX



People were hyping Vortix to win WCS EU in season 1... That is pretty biased. Just because he was a foreigner that beat some Koreans. The same happened with Bunny in season 3.

Yeah but we're talking about heavy bias, the kind of bias that makes people say that their favorite player, even if he's retired, is still at a top-foreigner level, or that he could come back best foreigner in two weeks, or that BM behavior is OK for him since he's the best foreigner, or that this specific MU/unit is imba just because the player doesn't like it, etc... VortiX hype was nothing of that

VortiX won a Vasacast a little while before his Ro8, and then got clapped by Jjakji.

Still nothing close to Nani/Stephano kind of bias. I mean now no one is saying that VortiX is the best foreigner that ever lived and will be so until the end of SC2 of things of this kind

Stephano at least managed to back up his hype with some sort of result.
Naniwa... I'm not too sure where all that bias came from.

He got double gsl ro8's

So did Chinro.

Easier time period. And jinro is a legend for that

I hate it when people bring that up. Everyone was worse

Jinro is still a legend
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 15:10:58
October 15 2014 15:09 GMT
#7355
On October 16 2014 00:07 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:06 Lorning wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:59 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:58 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Yeah but we're talking about heavy bias, the kind of bias that makes people say that their favorite player, even if he's retired, is still at a top-foreigner level, or that he could come back best foreigner in two weeks, or that BM behavior is OK for him since he's the best foreigner, or that this specific MU/unit is imba just because the player doesn't like it, etc... VortiX hype was nothing of that

VortiX won a Vasacast a little while before his Ro8, and then got clapped by Jjakji.

Still nothing close to Nani/Stephano kind of bias. I mean now no one is saying that VortiX is the best foreigner that ever lived and will be so until the end of SC2 of things of this kind

Stephano at least managed to back up his hype with some sort of result.
Naniwa... I'm not too sure where all that bias came from.

He got double gsl ro8's

So did Chinro.

Easier time period. And jinro is a legend for that

I hate it when people bring that up. Everyone was worse


I love the icon by the way. One of the few times I can say to people "my icon can beat up your icon."

I got my BC icon back earlier today, but it changed again after I got more powers :x

would you say that you're overpowered?

I would

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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 15 2014 15:10 GMT
#7356
On October 16 2014 00:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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On October 16 2014 00:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:03 Silvana wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:52 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:51 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Yeah, obviously people like Naniwa, Taeja, Bomber, INnoVation, etc etc never draw bias

Their fanbase is nothing compared to Idra Scarlett Stephano and Naniwa

Ah you're talking only about fanbase, ok. Then yes it's obviously foreigners that draw bias, but being Zerg has nothing to do with it, it's mainly a question of personality. (see the fanbase of Snute or VortiX)


Snute going to a lot of tournaments compared to Vortix (and anyone really) has a lot to do with that too

Hmm I meant that Snute's fanbase is small and non-intolerant compared to the ones of Nani, Idra, Scarlett and Stephano, much like VortiX


Oh sorry I misread what you said. Snute's fanbase is a lot less rabid it seems usually, though they were pretty loud when he was beating Flash (but that was justified). I wouldn't call his fanbase small though. And if it's an issue of personality, does Scarlett have much of that or is it just the "girl appeal"


She's shy just as the next Korean so don't tell me the bias comes from "personality" ^^ I don't think being a girl has anything to do with it either tho. It's just the foreigner thing imo.


I wasn't around the scene then, but when she first started winning wasn't she the most shy, painfully awkward person ever? Her personality should have been detrimental really


I think that people got that impression after a Hot_Bid interview; which we know isn't a reliable means of determining one's personality.


I mean, even on stage in real interviews she was the "one word answers" type and was barely audible

Yeah but she changed, she said it herself in interviews. Also being unnaturaly shy is "personality". It's answering like a machine and not showing emotion that is considered "faceless".
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 15 2014 15:11 GMT
#7357
Speaking of Scarlett fans complaining about imbalance, someone just posted an actually well thought out and accurate criticism in her fanclub. Refreshing to see.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 15 2014 15:11 GMT
#7358
On October 16 2014 00:09 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:07 Lorning wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:06 Lorning wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:59 IntoTheheart wrote:
[quote]
VortiX won a Vasacast a little while before his Ro8, and then got clapped by Jjakji.

Still nothing close to Nani/Stephano kind of bias. I mean now no one is saying that VortiX is the best foreigner that ever lived and will be so until the end of SC2 of things of this kind

Stephano at least managed to back up his hype with some sort of result.
Naniwa... I'm not too sure where all that bias came from.

He got double gsl ro8's

So did Chinro.

Easier time period. And jinro is a legend for that

I hate it when people bring that up. Everyone was worse


I love the icon by the way. One of the few times I can say to people "my icon can beat up your icon."

I got my BC icon back earlier today, but it changed again after I got more powers :x

would you say that you're overpowered?

I would

Nice question
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 15 2014 15:11 GMT
#7359
On October 16 2014 00:09 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 00:06 Lorning wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 16 2014 00:00 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:59 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 15 2014 23:56 Sakat wrote:
[quote]


People were hyping Vortix to win WCS EU in season 1... That is pretty biased. Just because he was a foreigner that beat some Koreans. The same happened with Bunny in season 3.

Yeah but we're talking about heavy bias, the kind of bias that makes people say that their favorite player, even if he's retired, is still at a top-foreigner level, or that he could come back best foreigner in two weeks, or that BM behavior is OK for him since he's the best foreigner, or that this specific MU/unit is imba just because the player doesn't like it, etc... VortiX hype was nothing of that

VortiX won a Vasacast a little while before his Ro8, and then got clapped by Jjakji.

Still nothing close to Nani/Stephano kind of bias. I mean now no one is saying that VortiX is the best foreigner that ever lived and will be so until the end of SC2 of things of this kind

Stephano at least managed to back up his hype with some sort of result.
Naniwa... I'm not too sure where all that bias came from.

He got double gsl ro8's

So did Chinro.

Easier time period. And jinro is a legend for that

I hate it when people bring that up. Everyone was worse

Jinro is still a legend


Never forget the run of the Chinbro!

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 15 2014 15:12 GMT
#7360
On October 16 2014 00:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Speaking of Scarlett fans complaining about imbalance, someone just posted an actually well thought out and accurate criticism in her fanclub. Refreshing to see.

Wasn't me!

since i`m not The_Templar…

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