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Time to man up and support one of our own--Protech

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iverysmiles
Profile Joined May 2014
12 Posts
August 22 2014 22:41 GMT
#1
Community was really supportive of Total biscuit when he got sick, he's a good guy and all, but Protech has literally provided 100+ times more content than TB.

As a lot of you know, for about 6 months now, Protech has been struggling with a debilitating wisdom teeth condition. Whatever controversy has surrounded it, one thing is for certain, he has a serious condition that needs to be addressed. For the procedure he needs $1700.

The fact that he has been bearing this pain specifically to CONSTANTLY GIVE VIEWERS CONTENT shows just how committed he is to the community.

Now, to head off any people say that protech gets money blah blah blah, well guess what? In the real world people have BILLS to pay. Not everyone can just go out and pay $1700 out of pocket!

He has been averaging about $2000-3000 a month in just donations which is classified as LOW INCOME.

Anyone who has watched streams for awhile KNOWS that the ad revenue is GARBAGE! As he has said it is laughable at around $300 a month!

Protech has averaged around 165 subscribers and has now gotten up to 200. Before you say wow, that's another $1000 a month, you need to THINK and realize that Twitch takes HALF of that money! He only sees an extra $500 a month from that $1000!

He has said very specifically that he spends all his money on putting a roof over his head and money in his belly. Anything left over he uses to pay his bills. He doesn't waste it on drugs or any crap like that.

If we are going to pull together as a community and get this guy enough money to get past his monthly bills, I feel like we could do that if he were up to around $5,000 a month. If he is breaking even now, then he should be able to get his MUCH NEEDED operation at that level.

A lot of people talk a lot about the community and helping out, but I bet a lot of people watch his stream and don't donate or subscribe and probably even use adblock. I agree with Protech, he has been doing this for FOUR YEARS and makes a pittance compared to what other streamers make. He's said he really deserves that kind of success and income but he has continued streaming despite not getting what he is worth.

$5 or $10 is probably the price of a movie or a beer, so time to man up people!

edit: Oh and to make matters worse, he just lost his No Scope sponsorship after less than one day. They cited "racist and discriminatory" behavior on his chat. Total BS, anyone who has seen his stream knows that he has never said or done anything like that! Just like he said, go look through ALL his vods, you won't find anything like that at all! Just more garbage perpetuated by people.
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
August 22 2014 22:45 GMT
#2
I got a bad feeling about where this thread will go...
Whatever happens, happens
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
August 22 2014 22:47 GMT
#3
On August 23 2014 07:45 Son of Gnome wrote:
I got a bad feeling about where this thread will go...

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iverysmiles
Profile Joined May 2014
12 Posts
August 22 2014 22:48 GMT
#4
why because a guy needs help? a community coming together and manning is POSITIVE
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 22 2014 22:48 GMT
#5
Averaging 2-3K in donations alone for what he does is good enough. I understand he has this condition but from the figures you gave 1700 to get it fixed is not an insane amount. This seems a lot like advertising, and maybe more appropriate for reddit. And not donating to him isn't not manning up, especially when he is a niche streamer who has said time and again he doesn't give a damn about TL.net.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
August 22 2014 22:48 GMT
#6
How is 4,000$/month not enough for one person? Does he have an entire family he is trying to support? Can he get a job if he really needs money? Also your account has one post, and based on your attitude and the information you know I would not be surprised if you were Protech.
Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
iverysmiles
Profile Joined May 2014
12 Posts
August 22 2014 22:49 GMT
#7
On August 23 2014 07:48 intense555 wrote:
How is 4,000$/month not enough for one person? Does he have an entire family he is trying to support? Can he get a job if he really needs money? Also your account has one post, and based on your attitude and the information you know I would not be surprised if you were Protech.

Have you ever heard of BILLS?
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 22:51:20
August 22 2014 22:50 GMT
#8
On August 23 2014 07:49 iverysmiles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:48 intense555 wrote:
How is 4,000$/month not enough for one person? Does he have an entire family he is trying to support? Can he get a job if he really needs money? Also your account has one post, and based on your attitude and the information you know I would not be surprised if you were Protech.

Have you ever heard of BILLS?


Bills for one person should only be like ~1-2K a month, unless he is living way above his means.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
iverysmiles
Profile Joined May 2014
12 Posts
August 22 2014 22:51 GMT
#9
Well I don't know what his bills are that's irrelevant. However I'm not so naive to realize that people need to pay bills.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
August 22 2014 22:52 GMT
#10
Twitch gets half of the subscribe fee?

What about donations? What is the % that Twitch takes?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 22:53:15
August 22 2014 22:53 GMT
#11
On August 23 2014 07:52 Psychobabas wrote:
Twitch gets half of the subscribe fee?

What about donations? What is the % that Twitch takes?

nothing because you're using other services like paypal etc
Moderatorlickypiddy
intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
August 22 2014 22:53 GMT
#12
On August 23 2014 07:50 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:49 iverysmiles wrote:
On August 23 2014 07:48 intense555 wrote:
How is 4,000$/month not enough for one person? Does he have an entire family he is trying to support? Can he get a job if he really needs money? Also your account has one post, and based on your attitude and the information you know I would not be surprised if you were Protech.

Have you ever heard of BILLS?


Bills for one person should only be like ~1-2K a month, unless he is living way above his means.

Exactly this.
Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
August 22 2014 22:54 GMT
#13
especially when he is a niche streamer who has said time and again he doesn't give a damn about TL.net.


wow that's a nice way to get people to like you.
moo...for DRG
iverysmiles
Profile Joined May 2014
12 Posts
August 22 2014 22:56 GMT
#14
Look, I don't know what his bills are, he probably has a mortgage or car payment, etc, you know like.. GROWN UP bills to pay?
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 22:59:15
August 22 2014 22:56 GMT
#15
"He has been averaging about $2000-3000 a month in just donations which is classified as LOW INCOME."

Not sure if serious or trolling 2-3k in donations and the rest. 4k income... . And in 6 months time no way to save up 1700 dollars? perhaps delay some bills and stuff fixed. Maybe its "time to man up" and set priorities.

5posts, who's clone account are you really?
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 22 2014 22:57 GMT
#16
These numbers don't add up at all wtf. Is he locked into some insanely expensive lease? Child support? Student loans? He would have had to have started off really bad to be unable to save $1700 in 6 months while making ~3.5k per month.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
iverysmiles
Profile Joined May 2014
12 Posts
August 22 2014 22:58 GMT
#17
He's streaming right now. Time to man up boys.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 22 2014 22:58 GMT
#18
On August 23 2014 07:56 iverysmiles wrote:
Look, I don't know what his bills are, he probably has a mortgage or car payment, etc, you know like.. GROWN UP bills to pay?


Lol so you make a thread to convince people to donate to Protech and the proceed to belittle people? Effective.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
August 22 2014 22:58 GMT
#19
this is just sad to see, begging at it's worst...
Master Chief
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 23:00:32
August 22 2014 22:58 GMT
#20
Honestly this thread is terrible and an awful way to get people to give a shit.
You come in and just spew matter of fact statement without any supporting evidence while telling people to man up and give money to someone they barely recognize.

We don't even have a picture of the dude, we don't know what he really does. The situation overall makes him look very unsympathetic. Where is he? Why can't he speak for himself?

If you're going to pull at people's heartstrings, you can't make your post so aggressive and come across as an A-hole.

Also:

He's said he really deserves that kind of success and income but he has continued streaming despite not getting what he is worth.


Wut?
lol
moo...for DRG
iverysmiles
Profile Joined May 2014
12 Posts
August 22 2014 22:59 GMT
#21
It's not belittling, it's just a fact. How the heck do I know what his bills are?
intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
August 22 2014 22:59 GMT
#22
On August 23 2014 07:56 iverysmiles wrote:
Look, I don't know what his bills are, he probably has a mortgage or car payment, etc, you know like.. GROWN UP bills to pay?

I am having a hard time telling if you are trolling, and if you are planning on making a living off of a stream that only gets 100-200 viewers, buying a house is probably not a good idea. So yes, for what he does he is definitely living way above his means.
Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
Qbyx
Profile Joined November 2007
Romania210 Posts
August 22 2014 23:00 GMT
#23
You are probably making way more bad to him then good.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 22 2014 23:00 GMT
#24
On August 23 2014 07:58 iverysmiles wrote:
He's streaming right now. Time to man up boys.

You first
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 22 2014 23:00 GMT
#25
On August 23 2014 07:59 iverysmiles wrote:
It's not belittling, it's just a fact. How the heck do I know what his bills are?


If you don't know his situation then why are you fronting a campaign for him?

Trolling?
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
August 22 2014 23:04 GMT
#26
This thread doesn't make any sense and isn't worth the community's time.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
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