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China26351 Posts
On July 11 2006 01:11 OverTheUnder wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2006 00:45 Broken.Mind wrote:On July 09 2006 22:10 Xeris wrote:
rekrul quit long ago, and Assem had visa problems and had to go back to USA. I dunno if he will return to Korea though, hopefully he will, because he was pretty good, but he seemed to have peaked in his skill level, although he could have beaten any foreigner, he couldn't compete against progamers very often. he was highly overrated, many foriegners could still beat him His TvZ was definetly koreanized. I really don't think any foriegn Z stood a chance against him when he was in shape, or very little chance. I remember his Bo7 with breakdown.....if you want to call it a Bo7, lol;)
do you still have the replays to that
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yea, Assems tvz was the best outside of Korea, although I don't think he played vs. Mondragon.
his pvt was definitely beatable though.
dunno about his tvt.
not sure how he plays now.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On July 11 2006 01:11 OverTheUnder wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2006 00:45 Broken.Mind wrote:On July 09 2006 22:10 Xeris wrote:
rekrul quit long ago, and Assem had visa problems and had to go back to USA. I dunno if he will return to Korea though, hopefully he will, because he was pretty good, but he seemed to have peaked in his skill level, although he could have beaten any foreigner, he couldn't compete against progamers very often. he was highly overrated, many foriegners could still beat him His TvZ was definetly koreanized. I really don't think any foriegn Z stood a chance against him when he was in shape, or very little chance. I remember his Bo7 with breakdown.....if you want to call it a Bo7, lol;)
Ret.
But ye, he was the best, which he kinda proved in TLTour, minus the TvT final which he lost :D!!
On July 11 2006 02:42 PuertoRican wrote:
yea, Assems tvz was the best outside of Korea, although I don't think he played vs. Mondragon.
his pvt was definitely beatable though.
dunno about his tvt.
not sure how he plays now.
Mondragon was bad at ZvT (compared to his ZvP). I hear he's good now O:
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Wouldn't doubt it for a second.
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ret's tvz was at least as good as assem's i think. assem may have had better harass/timing but assems mins always spiked pretty high, ret's macro was more consistant and his harass/timing was far from bad in itself.
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if assem had better macro in which his minerals didn't go to like 100000, he would've been godly 
also sad that draco didn't make it, and he went so far too.. better luck next time
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On July 11 2006 06:38 HungZerg wrote:
ret's tvz was at least as good as assem's i think. assem may have had better harass/timing but assems mins always spiked pretty high, ret's macro was more consistant and his harass/timing was far from bad in itself.
maybe so but ret was too much of a one strat player. He had much more difficulties against players who knew how he played (always fast exp which everyone does today). Also I think ret was ahead of his time when fast exp was used and his timing was great 
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China26351 Posts
and from his replays he seemed have started using early defilers before any foreigner. He does use the same strats every game in his rep pack, zvt lurker ling to quick hive, defilers, ultras, same thing in zvp except quicker hive more ultras. However doesnt seem like toss can do anything about his style, same thing for terrans except maybe sk/2 port and better macro micro which is rare because his mid/late game macro is superb
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Can someone upload ret's replay pack or direct me to somewhere where its up? He should've gone to korea ;o
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China26351 Posts
its on gg.net, under replay packs
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Nigol beat assem tvt 3-1 during last year's wcg online.
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think assem's tvt is pretty weak -_-; not so far behind is his tvp as well.
(Btw, assem totally raped mondragon in a series of games, I remember a certain firebat got like 24 kills on gaema gawon, forgot for which tourney though.)
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On July 11 2006 14:00 QuietIdiot wrote:
think assem's tvt is pretty weak -_-; not so far behind is his tvp as well.
(Btw, assem totally raped mondragon in a series of games, I remember a certain firebat got like 24 kills on gaema gawon, forgot for which tourney though.)
I'm 90% sure that was ELKY vs BLACKMAN.
EDIT:
Actually, I'm wrong, testie pointed this out in a loveable manner ;D
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...What about pj? How'd he and lx do in courage? Did they even play?
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Sweden33719 Posts
On July 11 2006 14:43 Drowsy wrote:
...What about pj? How'd he and lx do in courage? Did they even play?
No..
Coaches of proteams can elevate ~2 or so players every season/year directly to prostatus.
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They also said that since they had Chinese progaming license... they didnt need Korean ones... rofl bsing the system folks!
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On July 11 2006 09:44 zulu_nation8 wrote:
and from his replays he seemed have started using early defilers before any foreigner. He does use the same strats every game in his rep pack, zvt lurker ling to quick hive, defilers, ultras, same thing in zvp except quicker hive more ultras. However doesnt seem like toss can do anything about his style, same thing for terrans except maybe sk/2 port and better macro micro which is rare because his mid/late game macro is superb
surely not earlier than paul -_-
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no not ealier than paul, paul used defilers to defend, ret did normal 3 hatch lurkers but got hive really early and defilers to attack and spend gas, he can pull it off because of his macro and unit management
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