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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 10 2006 16:27 GMT
#401
On July 11 2006 01:11 OverTheUnder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2006 00:45 Broken.Mind wrote:
On July 09 2006 22:10 Xeris wrote:
rekrul quit long ago, and Assem had visa problems and had to go back to USA. I dunno if he will return to Korea though, hopefully he will, because he was pretty good, but he seemed to have peaked in his skill level, although he could have beaten any foreigner, he couldn't compete against progamers very often.


he was highly overrated, many foriegners could still beat him


His TvZ was definetly koreanized. I really don't think any foriegn Z stood a chance against him when he was in shape, or very little chance. I remember his Bo7 with breakdown.....if you want to call it a Bo7, lol;)


do you still have the replays to that
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
July 10 2006 17:42 GMT
#402
yea, Assems tvz was the best outside of Korea, although I don't think he played vs. Mondragon.
his pvt was definitely beatable though.
dunno about his tvt.

not sure how he plays now.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-07-10 19:00:54
July 10 2006 18:59 GMT
#403
On July 11 2006 01:11 OverTheUnder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2006 00:45 Broken.Mind wrote:
On July 09 2006 22:10 Xeris wrote:
rekrul quit long ago, and Assem had visa problems and had to go back to USA. I dunno if he will return to Korea though, hopefully he will, because he was pretty good, but he seemed to have peaked in his skill level, although he could have beaten any foreigner, he couldn't compete against progamers very often.


he was highly overrated, many foriegners could still beat him


His TvZ was definetly koreanized. I really don't think any foriegn Z stood a chance against him when he was in shape, or very little chance. I remember his Bo7 with breakdown.....if you want to call it a Bo7, lol;)

Ret.

But ye, he was the best, which he kinda proved in TLTour, minus the TvT final which he lost :D!!

On July 11 2006 02:42 PuertoRican wrote:
yea, Assems tvz was the best outside of Korea, although I don't think he played vs. Mondragon.
his pvt was definitely beatable though.
dunno about his tvt.

not sure how he plays now.

Mondragon was bad at ZvT (compared to his ZvP). I hear he's good now O:
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Sun
Profile Joined March 2006
United States551 Posts
July 10 2006 21:26 GMT
#404
Wouldn't doubt it for a second.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 10 2006 21:38 GMT
#405
ret's tvz was at least as good as assem's i think. assem may have had better harass/timing but assems mins always spiked pretty high, ret's macro was more consistant and his harass/timing was far from bad in itself.
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rawrx
Profile Joined February 2006
United States380 Posts
July 10 2006 22:51 GMT
#406
if assem had better macro in which his minerals didn't go to like 100000, he would've been godly

also sad that draco didn't make it, and he went so far too.. better luck next time
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
July 10 2006 23:15 GMT
#407
On July 11 2006 06:38 HungZerg wrote:
ret's tvz was at least as good as assem's i think. assem may have had better harass/timing but assems mins always spiked pretty high, ret's macro was more consistant and his harass/timing was far from bad in itself.


maybe so but ret was too much of a one strat player. He had much more difficulties against players who knew how he played (always fast exp which everyone does today). Also I think ret was ahead of his time when fast exp was used and his timing was great
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 11 2006 00:44 GMT
#408
and from his replays he seemed have started using early defilers before any foreigner. He does use the same strats every game in his rep pack, zvt lurker ling to quick hive, defilers, ultras, same thing in zvp except quicker hive more ultras. However doesnt seem like toss can do anything about his style, same thing for terrans except maybe sk/2 port and better macro micro which is rare because his mid/late game macro is superb
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
July 11 2006 02:35 GMT
#409
Can someone upload ret's replay pack or direct me to somewhere where its up? He should've gone to korea ;o
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 11 2006 02:41 GMT
#410
its on gg.net, under replay packs
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
July 11 2006 02:54 GMT
#411
got a 404
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-07-11 04:53:40
July 11 2006 04:52 GMT
#412
Nigol beat assem tvt 3-1 during last year's wcg online.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
July 11 2006 05:00 GMT
#413
think assem's tvt is pretty weak -_-; not so far behind is his tvp as well.

(Btw, assem totally raped mondragon in a series of games, I remember a certain firebat got like 24 kills on gaema gawon, forgot for which tourney though.)
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-07-11 06:01:18
July 11 2006 05:23 GMT
#414
On July 11 2006 14:00 QuietIdiot wrote:
think assem's tvt is pretty weak -_-; not so far behind is his tvp as well.

(Btw, assem totally raped mondragon in a series of games, I remember a certain firebat got like 24 kills on gaema gawon, forgot for which tourney though.)

I'm 90% sure that was ELKY vs BLACKMAN.
EDIT:
Actually, I'm wrong, testie pointed this out in a loveable manner ;D
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
July 11 2006 05:43 GMT
#415
...What about pj? How'd he and lx do in courage? Did they even play?
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 11 2006 06:01 GMT
#416
On July 11 2006 14:43 Drowsy wrote:
...What about pj? How'd he and lx do in courage? Did they even play?

No..
Coaches of proteams can elevate ~2 or so players every season/year directly to prostatus.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
July 11 2006 06:15 GMT
#417
They also said that since they had Chinese progaming license... they didnt need Korean ones... rofl bsing the system folks!
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CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
July 12 2006 10:29 GMT
#418
On July 11 2006 09:44 zulu_nation8 wrote:
and from his replays he seemed have started using early defilers before any foreigner. He does use the same strats every game in his rep pack, zvt lurker ling to quick hive, defilers, ultras, same thing in zvp except quicker hive more ultras. However doesnt seem like toss can do anything about his style, same thing for terrans except maybe sk/2 port and better macro micro which is rare because his mid/late game macro is superb


surely not earlier than paul -_-
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 12 2006 10:50 GMT
#419
no not ealier than paul, paul used defilers to defend, ret did normal 3 hatch lurkers but got hive really early and defilers to attack and spend gas, he can pull it off because of his macro and unit management
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
July 12 2006 11:02 GMT
#420
any replays yet out?
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