If look at spain now and you will point to an example of the government holding back its citizens from exercising that democracy, but look at the same example in a few months or a couple years and you will likely see a different outcome.
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Trainrunnef
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If look at spain now and you will point to an example of the government holding back its citizens from exercising that democracy, but look at the same example in a few months or a couple years and you will likely see a different outcome. | ||
Plansix
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brian
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but it’s all we’ve got and apparently it’s enough. | ||
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KwarK
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On October 04 2017 00:57 LegalLord wrote: The thing about defending against a government based far from your borders is that a sufficiently expensive stalemate is a win. Enough years of gorilla warfare and it might just force the British to walk away lest they spend far more than it's worth to keep the colony. There was a fantastic documentary in cinemas a few months ago showing how effective gorilla warfare can be against a modern military. | ||
RealityIsKing
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Velr
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brian
United States9617 Posts
On October 04 2017 01:27 RealityIsKing wrote: In a unlikely case of revolution, I think we'll see the military helping out too because our military are not brainwashed to serve the government, but rather the people. then what good is average joe whitey’s pistol when we have the american military with jets and nukes? | ||
farvacola
United States18825 Posts
Oxfam America is stepping in to help Puerto Rico, saying the Trump administration's response has been “inadequate." The global nonprofit's president, Abby Maxman, said in a statement Tuesday that the group is “outraged” at the U.S. government’s slow response in Puerto Rico, where more than half of the population is without clean drinking water and food and electricity are scarce in the wake of Hurricane Maria. “We’re hearing excuses and criticism from the administration instead of a cohesive and compassionate response,” Maxman said. The organization primarily focuses on humanitarian aid in developing nations and rarely helps wealthy countries like the U.S., but it said it is making an exception as the situation in Puerto Rico worsens. Maxman said the group will join with Puerto Rican leaders to work with Congress and federal agencies to organize relief efforts, adding that a team has been sent to San Juan to provide direct resources to residents, particularly in rural communities. “The US has more than enough resources to mobilize an emergency response but has failed to do so in a swift and robust manner,” she said. The Trump administration has been sharply criticized for its slow response to the devastation in Puerto Rico. The president has also clashed with the mayor of San Juan, tweeting that she has “poor leadership ability” and saying that Puerto Ricans “want everything done for them.” The president and first lady Melania Trump are scheduled to visit Puerto Rico on Tuesday and will meet with local leaders and victims of hurricane damage. Oxfam slams US response in Puerto Rico as 'slow, inadequate' | ||
RealityIsKing
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On October 04 2017 01:30 brian wrote: then what good is average joe whitey’s pistol when we have the american military with jets and nukes? Idk, that's a good question. EDIT: Let's not be racist though. | ||
brian
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On October 04 2017 01:31 farvacola wrote: Oxfam slams US response in Puerto Rico as 'slow, inadequate' Seriously, the bit where Trump says the Puerto Ricans need to offer more help... to the Puerto Ricans, is Onion levels of stupid. This response has been shambolic, I'm glad at least someone can organize to help them in their time of need. | ||
Mohdoo
United States15679 Posts
On October 04 2017 01:30 brian wrote: then what good is average joe whitey’s pistol when we have the american military with jets and nukes? Artificial inflation of an individual's view of their own masculinity? The empowerment someone feels when they wield a weapon? How about the fact that guns are just kinda cool? These are all really valuable things that people should feel no amount of shame in striving for. none. lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll | ||
farvacola
United States18825 Posts
Fucking disgraceful. | ||
Velr
Switzerland10697 Posts
That the death penalty is still a thing is disgracefull enough but this? | ||
Mohdoo
United States15679 Posts
On October 04 2017 01:46 Velr wrote: Wtf, why would the US do this? Just for a "fuck you we decide who to kill for what?" That the death penalty is still a thing is disgracefull enough but this? A brief glance at the Trump administration's views on gay conversion therapy makes this a lot more clear. | ||
farvacola
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Plansix
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On October 04 2017 01:45 farvacola wrote: In other news deserving national shame, the U.S. joined Iraq, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia today as it voted against a U.N. ban on homosexuality being punishable by death. Fucking disgraceful. We are a garbage nation and an embarrassment to the international stage. The fact that we make the world suffer through this every 8 years is a fucking joke. On October 04 2017 01:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/915256217991294982 Wow, just wow. Only 16 people confirmed dead, not a big deal. Sure they have no ability to really count how many people died, but forget that. Of course, to Trump, the rest that die will be due to the lack luster response from Puerto Rico citizens, who are not members of the US. And the price tag is to high because, you know, they are brown people. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States23214 Posts
On October 04 2017 01:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/915256217991294982 jfc. Tell me this evokes a sense of shame in people that voted for him. Please? | ||
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