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{CC}StealthBlue
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12542 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Notice noone is rushing to his defense on this father and sacrifice issue. | ||
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Cowboy24
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On July 31 2016 03:01 Gorsameth wrote: No, Trump is assuming people do not know when schedules were made and so think that the debate schedule was drawn up later. On July 31 2016 03:00 acker wrote: The NFL game schedule was decided a year after the debate schedule. Does Clinton secretly control American football? NFL games are always on Sunday, Monday night, and Thursday night. So yeah, it's not like you can schedule something on prime-time on a Sunday in the fall and not know you're going to come up against a football game. I really honestly don't know how anyone doesn't know this, and furthermore, how neither of you could see the irony of not knowing how schedules are made while sneering at the idiots who don't know how schedules are made.... edit: welp... looks like literally no one in this thread knows how Football works.... I'd facepalm, but I don't think a facepalm would encompass the utter fail here lol | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
On July 31 2016 08:40 Cowboy24 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2016 03:01 Gorsameth wrote: No, Trump is assuming people do not know when schedules were made and so think that the debate schedule was drawn up later. On July 31 2016 03:00 acker wrote: The NFL game schedule was decided a year after the debate schedule. Does Clinton secretly control American football? NFL games are always on Sunday, Monday night, and Thursday night. So yeah, it's not like you can schedule something on prime-time on a Sunday in the fall and not know you're going to come up against a football game. I really honestly don't know how anyone doesn't know this, and furthermore, how neither of you could see the irony of not knowing how schedules are made while sneering at the idiots who don't know how schedules are made.... Okay but he complained that they are up against "major NFL games". He also claims that Hillary and the democratic party rigged it which is false. The idea that the presidential debates must be scheduled to avoid sporting events is kind of stupid. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 31 2016 08:40 Cowboy24 wrote: NFL games are always on Sunday, Monday night, and Thursday night. So yeah, it's not like you can schedule something on prime-time on a Sunday in the fall and not know you're going to come up against a football game. I really honestly don't know how anyone doesn't know this, and furthermore, how neither of you could see the irony of not knowing how schedules are made while sneering at the idiots who don't know how schedules are made.... edit: welp... looks like literally no one in this thread knows how Football works.... I'd facepalm, but I don't think a facepalm would encompass the utter fail here lol Or maybe you schedule the debates for, y'know, primetime regardless of what else might be on then because it's primetime and that's when people watch TV? | ||
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Cowboy24
94 Posts
On July 30 2016 09:14 KwarK wrote: You are such a contemptible person. People don't hate you because you're American, they hate you because you're you. Crying "if you don't stop laughing at my stupidity and the stupidity of people like me then my nation will withdraw from it's geopolitical commitments which it chooses to do because they serve my nation's geopolitical aims" is just digging yourself further. This is why people have contempt for you. Your response to contempt is contemptible. You're an embarrassment to your country. Actually, the only people I've ever seen act this way are hardcore internet leftists. Even hardcore leftists don't act that way when they are in person, because they know there will be at least some kind of response. Anonymity combined with a childish inability to argue without attaching personal value to one's position leads some to lash out with utterly ridiculous and over the top attacks when challenged. My nation's aims are not served by NATO, but I refuse to argue with someone who cannot argue in good faith, so I will say nothing further to you. Have a nice life. | ||
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Cowboy24
94 Posts
On July 31 2016 08:52 ticklishmusic wrote: Or maybe you schedule the debates for, y'know, primetime regardless of what else might be on then because it's primetime and that's when people watch TV? They could have picked a Tuesday or a Wednesday. Just a thought... edit: I mean, God forbid we actually make an attempt to reach the American people. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On July 31 2016 08:54 Cowboy24 wrote: They could have picked a Tuesday or a Wednesday. Just a thought... edit: I mean, God forbid we actually make an attempt to reach the American people. Are you still missing the fact that this was scheduled before the sporting events were scheduled? | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On July 31 2016 09:07 Mohdoo wrote: Are you still missing the fact that this was scheduled before the sporting events were scheduled? He is not, as his prior note about there always being NFL games on certain days in prime time. Though of course the particular matchups were not set at that time. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On July 31 2016 09:07 Mohdoo wrote: Are you still missing the fact that this was scheduled before the sporting events were scheduled? Football is always Sunday night and Monday night.. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 31 2016 08:40 Cowboy24 wrote: NFL games are always on Sunday, Monday night, and Thursday night. So yeah, it's not like you can schedule something on prime-time on a Sunday in the fall and not know you're going to come up against a football game. I really honestly don't know how anyone doesn't know this, and furthermore, how neither of you could see the irony of not knowing how schedules are made while sneering at the idiots who don't know how schedules are made.... edit: welp... looks like literally no one in this thread knows how Football works.... I'd facepalm, but I don't think a facepalm would encompass the utter fail here lol There's prime time something on every night of the week in the fall except for Saturday nights, which is a horrible night to broadcast anything. He was also suggesting that the DNC rigged this, which is patently ridiculous, since the schedule was set long before the particular game schedule came out and it's set by a non-partisan commission. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
Presidential debates do not and should not make excuses for football. Stop being a Trump apologist. | ||
Falling
Canada11607 Posts
2012 1/4 were on those days (Thurs 2/4) 2008 1/4 were on those days. (Thurs 3/4) 2004 0/4 were on those days. (Thurs 1/4) 2000 0/4 were on those days. (Thurs 1/4) edit 1996 1/4 were on those days (a Sunday no less) (Thurs 1/3) 1992 2/4 were on those days (Thurs 3/4) 1988 1/3 were on those days (Thurs 1/3) 1984 2/3 were on those days (two Sundays) (Thurs 3/3) 1980 (1/2) were on those days (Thurs 1/2) So I guess it's possible they were avoiding those days in the past and now they just don't care. But it's hard to guess intent. With Thursdays included, there's actually no pattern at all. edit If Thursdays are also included as a no go, you are starting to run out of days of the week. There'll be Survivor premier here and another tv show premier there, something else big. At some point you just got to pick your times and go with it. I mean, Fridays are probably bad because people go out to party or something. Accusing Hillary of rigging the debate days is complete nonsense, however. double edit. Okay, I conclude Trump's conspiracy is entirely and completely false at least going by historical patterns. The only pattern I see is that they used to hold debates on Sundays and do so no longer. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On July 31 2016 09:31 Falling wrote: So if Sunday and Monday are the ones always to avoid because of football, this year 2/4 were on those days. 2012 1/4 were on those days 2008 1/4 were on those days. 2004 0/4 were on those days. 2000 0/4 were on those days. So I guess it's possible they were avoiding those days in the past and now they just don't care. But it's hard to guess intent. The mail leaks will clear everything don't worry. On July 31 2016 09:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/StealthBlue/status/759536524690063360 This is a little bit disengenuous to resume it this way, without any look at the actual arguments. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 31 2016 06:23 Godwrath wrote: From the Hillary's "flip flopping" (using the expression because my english sucks too much to find a better) is not so much about being a flexible candidate, but the loss of trust in regards if she genuinely changed her views. It's clear that being able to change your point of view is fine, but it is also fine for people to be skeptic until she proves that she legitimately changed her views, and that takes time. If you change your stance in plenty things (not saying Hillary had), it is only natural to be wary. Wait what?? Honest question: Do you care more about what a politician actually passes or what a politician believes deep down in their soul? If you care more about what they pass--then who cares what they believe? If you care about what they believe, then why does it matter what they can or can't pass? | ||
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