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On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue.
When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un?
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It takes a warped mind to equate a North Korean blackmail with nuclear weapons for US forces to withdraw from South Korea, as a peace process. Before Trump, escalatory and inflammitory policy, NK regularily communicated with SK and USA. Now it is just SK and NK to both USA and SK demerit.
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On March 07 2018 00:19 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue. When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un?
what is the relevance of those questions to my point? I don't see you providing any. you'll need to explain your point, cuz it's no tclear at all.
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On March 07 2018 00:19 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue. When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un?
Wait, you're actually being serious? You actually think senor stable genius trump had something to do with this? LMFAO. Maybe he offered kim the phone number of the russian hooker that pissed on the bed in exchange for suspending their nuclear program.
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When was the last time South Korea elected someone who ran saying he would seek better relations with NK? Because that that seems to be the game changer, not Trump.
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Not trying to give Trump any undue credit but he certainly brought light to the fact that the N/S divide is mostly of US interest. Not SK, save for their deal with the US.
He provided the international cover a SK leader needed to make negotiations with NK palatable.
I don't think any of that was intentional though.
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On March 07 2018 00:31 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:19 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue. When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un? what is the relevance of those questions to my point? I don't see you providing any. you'll need to explain your point, cuz it's no tclear at all.
I'll answer them for you because I don't want to go through the application process of fulfilling whatever your criteria will end up being to justify my responding to your elaborate treatise, "good joke." 11 years and never.
My point is it's fatuous to feign ignorance at the suggestion Trump could have a modicum of responsibility in anything that might even be slightly be good. Does that make sense?
LegalLord's post is only a troll from the perspective of he's clever enough to realize mention of Trump and Obama in the same sentence is guaranteed to send you sputtering. The record is clear that Obama completely failed.
On March 07 2018 00:37 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:19 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue. When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un? Wait, you're actually being serious? You actually think senor stable genius trump had something to do with this? LMFAO. Maybe he offered kim the phone number of the russian hooker that pissed on the bed in exchange for suspending their nuclear program.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/north-korea-seeks-help-from-republican-analysts-whats-up-with-trump/2017/09/26/
The relationship looks like textbook good cop/bad cop, liberal Moon and Republican Trump, the closest thing before being two liberal ROK presidents during the Bush administration and having almost very successful six-party talks, but of course Bush also dropped the ball.
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The North/South divide is a relic of communist China imperialist efforts and their push into Korea back in the 1950s. Being allies with South Korea has worked out for the US. But we could still be allies with a unified Korea, but China is not interested in have a democratic nation bordering them.
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On March 07 2018 00:48 Plansix wrote:
The North/South divide is a relic of communist China imperialist efforts and their push into Korea back in the 1950s. Being allies with South Korea has worked out for the US. But we could still be allies with a unified Korea, but China is not interested in have a democratic nation bordering them.
I don't think they'd be a fan of a democratic nation on their border, but I suspect the issue is more about who that democracy would favor and what the impending consequences would be for both the US and China. The Korean people serve as unfortunate fodder in this whole thing.
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Am I missing something? Don't they say this every time they need food? "No more nukes if you help a brother out. Yum, that was tasty. btw, gonna nuke you."
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On March 07 2018 00:45 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:31 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:19 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue. When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un? what is the relevance of those questions to my point? I don't see you providing any. you'll need to explain your point, cuz it's no tclear at all. I'll answer them for you because I don't want to go through the application process of fulfilling whatever your criteria will end up being to justify my responding to your elaborate treatise, "good joke." 11 years and never. My point is it's fatuous to feign ignorance at the suggestion Trump could have a modicum of responsibility in anything that might even be slightly be good. Does that make sense? LegalLord's post is only a troll from the perspective of he's clever enough to realize mention of Trump and Obama in the same sentence is guaranteed to send you sputtering. The record is clear that Obama completely failed.
But... that doesn't mean Trump succeeded?
The sputting isn't mentioning Obama and Trump in the same sentence, it's the silly implication that Trump's expert diplomatic tweeting skills have somehow had more to do with advancement (theoretical advancement at that) on the Korean peninsula than the election of a South Korean Prime Minister whose platform is practically 'let's try hugging things out with NK for once, m'kay?'
It's kind of impressive American arrogance that you think your President has more of an influence than NK's next door neighbour.
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On March 07 2018 00:45 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:31 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:19 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue. When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un? what is the relevance of those questions to my point? I don't see you providing any. you'll need to explain your point, cuz it's no tclear at all. I'll answer them for you because I don't want to go through the application process of fulfilling whatever your criteria will end up being to justify my responding to your elaborate treatise, "good joke." 11 years and never. My point is it's fatuous to feign ignorance at the suggestion Trump could have a modicum of responsibility in anything that might even be slightly be good. Does that make sense? LegalLord's post is only a troll from the perspective of he's clever enough to realize mention of Trump and Obama in the same sentence is guaranteed to send you sputtering. The record is clear that Obama completely failed.
I was promised a whole presidency of fingers twitching near the nuke button based on Trumps tweeting at KJU and his personality. Now, I’ll be enjoying the takes that this was inevitable and Trump deserves zero credit (and just forget that I told you last month that this was all impossible because Trump screwed the pooch with provocations).
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Unbelievable.
And related:
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Last time I checked we don’t have an ambassador to South Korea. Is that still the case?
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On March 07 2018 00:45 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:31 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:19 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue. When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un? what is the relevance of those questions to my point? I don't see you providing any. you'll need to explain your point, cuz it's no tclear at all. I'll answer them for you because I don't want to go through the application process of fulfilling whatever your criteria will end up being to justify my responding to your elaborate treatise, "good joke." 11 years and never. My point is it's fatuous to feign ignorance at the suggestion Trump could have a modicum of responsibility in anything that might even be slightly be good. Does that make sense? LegalLord's post is only a troll from the perspective of he's clever enough to realize mention of Trump and Obama in the same sentence is guaranteed to send you sputtering. The record is clear that Obama completely failed. Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:37 hunts wrote:On March 07 2018 00:19 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue. When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un? Wait, you're actually being serious? You actually think senor stable genius trump had something to do with this? LMFAO. Maybe he offered kim the phone number of the russian hooker that pissed on the bed in exchange for suspending their nuclear program. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/north-korea-seeks-help-from-republican-analysts-whats-up-with-trump/2017/09/26/The relationship looks like textbook good cop/bad cop, liberal Moon and Republican Trump, the closest thing before being two liberal ROK presidents during the Bush administration and having almost very successful six-party talks, but of course Bush also dropped the ball.
ll's post is a troll from the perspective of reality; ifi you wish to ignore that you may.
right now there'es nothing to credit, period. just a few pretty words, which are cast about all the time. you're the one engaging in EXTREME reaching to try justify it being more than that, and to try to claim a joke is something other than a joke.
furthermore, what there is, would be more due to SK PM than any action by trump.
the record is clear that you somehow have no idea what you're tlaking about. failure would imply there was a better option; and i've yet to hear you present one.
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On March 07 2018 00:51 Mohdoo wrote:
Am I missing something? Don't they say this every time they need food? "No more nukes if you help a brother out. Yum, that was tasty. btw, gonna nuke you."
Yes, this is generally the way things go. Though from what I've read, food prices have remained stable despite the West's sanctions hitting North Korean exports hard meaning they're still finding a way to make things work with countries/companies willing to circumvent the sanctions. Of course, North Korean economic data is pretty spotty at best but its long been argued that sanctions don't really do a whole lot but screw the target's population.
At the end of the day, North Korea wants the nuclear missile program to work so they can guarantee their own existence and use it as leverage to deter the US. They're going into these meetings with the implied threat that they'll only stop missile tests if dialogue with the US is maintained and only denuclearize if the US military threat is no longer a problem. Neither of these things are happening.
They're not really going in these meetings for peace or reunification, they want a reduction in sanctions and an influx of aid money. They're basically forcing the US to come to the negotiation table unless the US wants to look like the clear aggressor to everyone in the region. After all, North Korea has started talks with a pro-unification South Korean administration and has even thrown the US a bone by allowing US-South Korean military drills to continue.
People assume North Korea is run by an insane moron but its a pretty rational actor in the grand scheme of things.
On March 07 2018 01:00 Plansix wrote:
Last time I checked we don’t have an ambassador to South Korea. Is that still the case?
Its still vacant, the entire DOS has been gutted under Tillerson.
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That is what I thought. Giving Trump credit for this outcome is a bit of a stretch given how the DOS has run under him. NPR is now reporting that South Korea is sending diplomats to DC to discuss the agreement, mostly because we do not have an ambassador.
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On March 07 2018 00:55 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:45 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2018 00:31 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:19 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue. When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un? what is the relevance of those questions to my point? I don't see you providing any. you'll need to explain your point, cuz it's no tclear at all. I'll answer them for you because I don't want to go through the application process of fulfilling whatever your criteria will end up being to justify my responding to your elaborate treatise, "good joke." 11 years and never. My point is it's fatuous to feign ignorance at the suggestion Trump could have a modicum of responsibility in anything that might even be slightly be good. Does that make sense? LegalLord's post is only a troll from the perspective of he's clever enough to realize mention of Trump and Obama in the same sentence is guaranteed to send you sputtering. The record is clear that Obama completely failed. I was promised a whole presidency of fingers twitching near the nuke button based on Trumps tweeting at KJU and his personality. Now, I’ll be enjoying the takes that this was inevitable and Trump deserves zero credit (and just forget that I told you last month that this was all impossible because Trump screwed the pooch with provocations).
I gotta say, the comparison between Trump and Reagan is becoming uncanny. The only real difference at this point is that social media allows the shrill Left to screech at an 11 instead of an 8.
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On March 07 2018 01:27 Plansix wrote:
That is what I thought. Giving Trump credit for this outcome is a bit of a stretch given how the DOS has run under him. NPR is now reporting that South Korea is sending diplomats to DC to discuss the agreement, mostly because we do not have an ambassador.
clearly all part of trumps grand plan to bring the negotiation table to the US.
jk though. the idea that Trump has a plan(or is even capable of not only constructing one, but keeping to it) that extends past his own fingers on the matter seems fairly laughable. But Trumpets gonna toot the horn. it’s what they do. he’s the smartest genius, after all.
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On March 07 2018 01:37 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 00:55 Danglars wrote:On March 07 2018 00:45 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2018 00:31 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:19 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2018 00:13 zlefin wrote:On March 07 2018 00:10 oBlade wrote:On March 06 2018 23:29 zlefin wrote:On March 06 2018 23:28 LegalLord wrote:
Trump did good. Guess he’s more effective than Obama at this peace talk thing after all. good joke; was worth a helpful laugh. Shortly after Obama's election and after no noteworthy accomplishments to merit it, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (which is admittedly not historically credible as being merit-based to begin with). Why? For political reasons, a show of good faith, and for a speech he gave committing to nuclear nonproliferation. During his presidency the DPRK tested nuclear weapons 4 times, and we are coming up (in May) on the date when the DPRK will have had a monopoly on nuclear testing, 100% of worldwide nuclear tests having been conducted there, for the last 20 years. This isn't a joke or meme, everyone since Clinton has gravely failed, dropped the ball. no indication that trump has done any better; and therefore legallord's remark was a joke. while the issue is serious; I rightly noted that a joke was a joke. I'm not sure what the rest of your points have to do with my remark. i.e. while your points have merit on their own, they don't seem pertinent as a response to me; unless it's on the narrow point that you don' tlike to hear people joke about such a serious issue. When was the last time ROK envoys met with the DPRK in Pyongyang? When is the last time someone met with Kim Jong Un? what is the relevance of those questions to my point? I don't see you providing any. you'll need to explain your point, cuz it's no tclear at all. I'll answer them for you because I don't want to go through the application process of fulfilling whatever your criteria will end up being to justify my responding to your elaborate treatise, "good joke." 11 years and never. My point is it's fatuous to feign ignorance at the suggestion Trump could have a modicum of responsibility in anything that might even be slightly be good. Does that make sense? LegalLord's post is only a troll from the perspective of he's clever enough to realize mention of Trump and Obama in the same sentence is guaranteed to send you sputtering. The record is clear that Obama completely failed. I was promised a whole presidency of fingers twitching near the nuke button based on Trumps tweeting at KJU and his personality. Now, I’ll be enjoying the takes that this was inevitable and Trump deserves zero credit (and just forget that I told you last month that this was all impossible because Trump screwed the pooch with provocations). I gotta say, the comparison between Trump and Reagan is becoming uncanny. The only real difference at this point is that social media allows the shrill Left to screech at an 11 instead of an 8.
Only if you slept through history class.
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