EPTThe person that stabbed my in the chest and brought me back on my feet reminding me that people can't be trusted.
The Veralynn Fanclub
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partouf
Netherlands405 Posts
The person that stabbed my in the chest and brought me back on my feet reminding me that people can't be trusted. | ||
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CalmQ
United Kingdom9 Posts
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
Sign me up. | ||
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Svetgm
Canada76 Posts
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murphs
Ireland417 Posts
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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Ronski
Finland266 Posts
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Talaris
Switzerland753 Posts
 Thanks alot partouf ! (and sign me up please) | ||
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MQM5K
United States53 Posts
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Xerdies
Germany3 Posts
Her last match against Sjow was great <3 | ||
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jobber123rd
United States501 Posts
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partouf
Netherlands405 Posts
On September 04 2012 11:07 MQM5K wrote: Since me and Vera will be eloping this fall it's obligatory to add my name to the list (at the very top no less!) I can handle all the domestic man things in the relationship and she can boost my account into GM. If I got a penny for the amount of people who wanted to be on top of Vera, ehrrr I mean, on top of the list. I'd have 2 pennies now already! <3 Ronski's signiture: Fan of Vera [The BMGM] Lynn I kind of want to make spoiler tag on this page with "The BMGM Saga", if anyone comes across any material suiting that topic, please PM me ^^ | ||
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partouf
Netherlands405 Posts
Vera's got an interview tonight! @SC2UPandComing: Tonight we'll be live 9:30pm EDT hosted by @ALTWindy & @TheRealNanMan tonight we have on special guest @VeraLynnSC2 http://t.co/mm167kQO And then that was postponed.. nevermind! | ||
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OldManSenex
United States130 Posts
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partouf
Netherlands405 Posts
Note someone also found out that after the SjoWmatch, Rotterdam made a short few comments on the games against Vera on a NASL broadcast. Here from 7hrs 40mins. Can't wait for more showmatches ^^ Edit: You can find the VOD of the interview @ SC2UpAndComing here: http://www.twitch.tv/therealnanman/b/331209765 | ||
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MQM5K
United States53 Posts
French http://www.millenium.org/ English http://www.twitch.tv/z33ktv | ||
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partouf
Netherlands405 Posts
She can do it! + Show Spoiler + But watch out not to get drones roasted! | ||
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z33k.TV
United States75 Posts
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PengWin_SC
Switzerland433 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25736 Posts
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twoliveanddie
United States2049 Posts
sign me up toliveanddie.141 dirt level Terran NA server z33k SC2 officer | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
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partouf
Netherlands405 Posts
17th - 4pm EST (18th - 00:00 CET... I think) | ||
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Jaykelvik
United Kingdom70 Posts
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MQM5K
United States53 Posts
Also watching the vod of her and Sheth's pro corner since I missed it the other night. * Wiki updates got rejected,maybe not in line with the editing guide. | ||
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Jaykelvik
United Kingdom70 Posts
If you have any Questions on Strategy or Gameplay or even Personal questions you would like to ask Vera she is reponding to your comments in the sixpool gaming thread Also i do believe , one lucky poster each week gets there replay analysed for any race! Heres the link to the sixpool gaming thread. http://www.sixpoolgaming.com/forums/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=51 | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
On September 25 2012 05:22 qrs wrote: Breaking news. Way too busted for me. Let's change the fanclub title heh :D | ||
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YehOfCourseImOP
United Kingdom23 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:25 Wombat_NI wrote: Legitimately good female, from Ireland too. Have to sign up! Hahaha. Kind of a shame really. Sorry Mr.Wombat  | ||
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nebula.
Sweden1431 Posts
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
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murphs
Ireland417 Posts
Also, I once again declare myself the best Irish SC2 player. murph | ||
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MQM5K
United States53 Posts
On September 25 2012 05:22 qrs wrote: Breaking news. Ouch! I've had a busy day today and I finally get to sit down to relax and I see this. That thread is far too long to comment in, it'll be like throwing a penny into a well. I'm convinced that it wasn't Vera playing. A little sad, part of me still wants to believe that it's not true. The first 2 or 3 times I watched her stream I remember her having a web cam up while playing and pushing out of masters for EU GM. Honestly the very first thing I thought about was what would happen to z33k tv, their casters and Admins. I'm shocked that she'd put the credibility of z33k in jeopardy like that as well as sponsors working in conjunction with z33k tv. I'm also a bit sad that z33k lost 3 caster that I've become very fond of in the process, though it's understandable, Rif, Panda, and Penguin didn't just invested a lot of time and energy into working with Vera but also a lot of emotion. They all seemed to be good friends each other. Partouf Thanks for starting the fan club and supporting and being so friendly in the chats. Even though it may not have been her playing We had plenty of fun in her stream. She's a sweet person, I don't regret any time I spent chatting with her or showing support for her during show matches because I met a lot of wonderfully cool people during the process. I'll still try to show support for RiF, Panda, Penguin and Z33k as much as possible. Any familiars from vera's chat or the z33k tv chat that still want to chat it up for a bit my sc2 account and skype: We can play some games also but I'm silver lols sc2: MQM.132 Skype: A.Simmonsjux So anyway I'll probably send Vera a nice message cause Pitch Forks hurt and more important than a job and a clean sc2 account or reputation it seems like she's lost and hurt some friends too. Hopefully she pops back up online soon. Perhaps she can salvage some feelings and post a quick apology and spare some time to chat! | ||
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murphs
Ireland417 Posts
On September 25 2012 08:19 MQM5K wrote: Ouch! I've had a busy day today and I finally get to sit down to relax and I see this. That thread is far too long to comment in, it'll be like throwing a penny into a well. I'm convinced that it wasn't Vera playing. A little sad, part of me still wants to believe that it's not true. The first 2 or 3 times I watched her stream I remember her having a web cam up while playing and pushing out of masters for EU GM. Honestly the very first thing I thought about was what would happen to z33k tv, their casters and Admins. I'm shocked that she'd put the credibility of z33k in jeopardy like that as well as sponsors working in conjunction with z33k tv. I'm also a bit sad that z33k lost 3 caster that I've become very fond of in the process, though it's understandable, Rif, Panda, and Penguin didn't just invested a lot of time and energy into working with Vera but also a lot of emotion. They all seemed to be good friends each other. Partouf Thanks for starting the fan club and supporting and being so friendly in the chats. Even though it may not have been her playing We had plenty of fun in her stream. She's a sweet person, I don't regret any time I spent chatting with her or showing support for her during show matches because I met a lot of wonderfully cool people during the process. I'll still try to show support for RiF, Panda, Penguin and Z33k as much as possible. Any familiars from vera's chat or the z33k tv chat that still want to chat it up for a bit my sc2 account and skype: We can play some games also but I'm silver lols sc2: MQM.132 Skype: A.Simmonsjux So anyway I'll probably send Vera a nice message cause Pitch Forks hurt and more important than a job and a clean sc2 account or reputation it seems like she's lost and hurt some friends too. Hopefully she pops back up online soon. Perhaps she can salvage some feelings and post a quick apology and spare some time to chat! I'm sorry but if the allegations are true, and it's pretty much 99% that they are then she needs to be run out of this community along with deathangel. She a cheat and a fraud. That's much worse than being a silly map hacker. | ||
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Wedge
Canada580 Posts
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ChosenBrad1322
United States562 Posts
On September 25 2012 08:19 MQM5K wrote: So anyway I'll probably send Vera a nice message cause Pitch Forks hurt and more important than a job and a clean sc2 account or reputation it seems like she's lost and hurt some friends too. Hopefully she pops back up online soon. Perhaps she can salvage some feelings and post a quick apology and spare some time to chat! I don't know Veralyn personally but if everything here is true its hard to say "they are a sweet person". Think about what they did ^^ A girl used a leveling service to gain ladder rank and play in show-matches, which helped make her respectable / supported. Then used that un-earned and fake respectability to trick people into paying for coaching and supporting her to help her get exposure in the community. That's an incredibly horrible thing to do in my opinion, but maybe I have some of the facts wrong or something. And like Wedge said, to just dodge all those people who helped support you and bury your head into the sand. I can't possibly understand how someone could have nice things to say about this horrible person. If she was nice or helpful or fun to be around, it was all just a fraud in the end. | ||
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MQM5K
United States53 Posts
On September 25 2012 09:02 ChosenSC2 wrote: I don't know Veralyn personally but if everything here is true its hard to say "they are a sweet person". Think about what they did ^^ A girl used a leveling service to gain ladder rank and play in show-matches, which helped make her respectable / supported. Then used that un-earned and fake respectability to trick people into paying for coaching and supporting her to help her get exposure in the community. That's an incredibly horrible thing to do in my opinion, but maybe I have some of the facts wrong or something. And like Wedge said, to just dodge all those people who helped support you and bury your head into the sand. I can't possibly understand how someone could have nice things to say about this horrible person. If she was nice or helpful or fun to be around, it was all just a fraud in the end. Maybe but a few of us spent a lot of time just being friendly and chatting with her on twitch and skype. We even spent time chatting with her roommates etc... I sympathize with people that are out of a few bucks sponsoring her show matches but at least we got some (now tainted) entertainment out of it. The evidence looks rock solid, don't think she should be able to compete again but that doesn't mean people should be thrown to the wayside like trash. And that goes for Vera herself and her own relationships she built up these past months working for z33k. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6659 Posts
On September 25 2012 09:22 MQM5K wrote: Maybe but a few of us spent a lot of time just being friendly and chatting with her on twitch and skype. We even spent time chatting with her roommates etc... I sympathize with people that are out of a few bucks sponsoring her show matches but at least we got some (now tainted) entertainment out of it. The evidence looks rock solid, don't think she should be able to compete again but that doesn't mean people should be thrown to the wayside like trash. And that goes for Vera herself and her own relationships she built up these past months working for z33k. So because she can smile and act friendly on a stream it's okay to cheat lie and essentially steal? Actions speak louder then words, just because she can act friendly and seem nice doesn't mean she isn't a horrible person... IMO it just makes them a worse person for faking it. So yes is these allegations are true she should be thrown/run out of the community. The relationships she built up are a complete farce and built entirely on lies.... | ||
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Chicks
Ireland63 Posts
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MQM5K
United States53 Posts
On September 25 2012 09:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote: So because she can smile and act friendly on a stream it's okay to cheat lie and essentially steal? Actions speak louder then words, just because she can act friendly and seem nice doesn't mean she isn't a horrible person... IMO it just makes them a worse person for faking it. So yes is these allegations are true she should be thrown/run out of the community. The relationships she built up are a complete farce and built entirely on lies.... I don't think her being friendly was an act lol call me a fool what ever. All I know is that people were entertained I was entertained I had fun despite the false playing. I've been online for a long time and I've seen many frauds be exposed. This was surprising but not as bad as it could have been since it was caught early enough. I know she was friendly with a lot of other people and ran a business that was probably taking off on her just being cordial. Some off us still want to check in on her. She wasn't honest but she didn't commit arson or murder. Any way people love their pitch forks, I won't deny fresh blood and tasty tasty justice, have fun. | ||
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
On September 25 2012 05:36 YehOfCourseImOP wrote: Hahaha. Kind of a shame really. Sorry Mr.Wombat When I saw that post I must say that I bursted into laughs, not sure I should laugh or weep tho :S | ||
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lolboi222
South Africa44 Posts
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TapetalKarma
United States127 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371282 | ||
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NOOBALOPSE
Canada802 Posts
You should feel ashamed, and I hope you do. And as a last note, just remember that this isn't the end of the world. You made a mistake, as do all of us, but just learn from your mistakes. | ||
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Jailbreaker
United States62 Posts
(for those that don't get it, it was a poor reference to beauty346) | ||
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GT350
United States270 Posts
And OP | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
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GreyArrow
United States157 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Karnul
United States39 Posts
On September 04 2012 11:07 MQM5K wrote: Since me and Vera will be eloping this fall it's obligatory to add my name to the list (at the very top no less!) I can handle all the domestic man things in the relationship and she can boost my account into GM. On September 11 2012 00:25 Wombat_NI wrote: Legitimately good female, from Ireland too. Have to sign up! Oh, the irony. | ||
Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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Rickyvalle21
United States320 Posts
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Ldawg
United States328 Posts
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MQM5K
United States53 Posts
>.< In the feels. This whole thing has gone from initially being shocking to being some what comedic now. Hope our OP is doing alright. I didn't notice the edit to the original post. | ||
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DeathAngel[ro]
Romania79 Posts
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Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:24 DeathAngel[ro] wrote: I just wanna know if you guys enjoyed the playstyle or the girl aspect ... Doesn't even deny that it actually happened. | ||
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MQM5K
United States53 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:24 DeathAngel[ro] wrote: I just wanna know if you guys enjoyed the playstyle or the girl aspect ... I honestly enjoyed the play style it was pretty entertaining to see. I don't see zerg players that can manage constant aggression and still be able to macro behind it. I don't think too many people latched onto the girl aspect for various reason. Her stream never got more than 50 or 60 viewers at a time despite trying her best to get the word out. We're not getting the whole story from you (or vera) but it doesn't matter now. Funny post though. | ||
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SnowFantasy
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DeathAngel[ro]
Romania79 Posts
I just wanted to know if you guys enjoyed my playstyle or not.. | ||
Noam
Israel2209 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:55 DeathAngel[ro] wrote: there is no full story.. my thing was to play on that account and make it top gm.. there is no story Congratulations Andrei, you were an entertaining young Zerg player and had fond memories of you from back in the good old days when you were in Ai. Now you've become a liar, destroying what other, much smarter people than you, have been building for 2.5 years. You're a cheat and the worst of it all: it seems like you don't even understand HOW wrong and destructive what you did is. So don't come here and try to get people to further fuel your childish behavior by telling you they enjoyed your playstyle. Move along, find someplace else people find your childish "death angel" behavior entertaining. | ||
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nebula.
Sweden1431 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:24 DeathAngel[ro] wrote: I just wanna know if you guys enjoyed the playstyle or the girl aspect ... lol | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:24 DeathAngel[ro] wrote: I just wanna know if you guys enjoyed the playstyle or the girl aspect ... LOL | ||
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murphs
Ireland417 Posts
On September 25 2012 09:57 Chicks wrote: *Boooo* *Hiss* Chicks best female Ireland | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
- KawaiiRice revealed that it was virtually certain that Deathangel was playing on Vera's account both on ladder, in showmatches etc. After all, there was no webcam view on Vera's stream when she was actually playing live, when games were played, Windows was in Romanian, Grooveshark was in Romanian and a Flash Player crash error was in Romanian too, not English/Irish. Some replays of Vera also had virtually the same hotkey usage, timings and assignment as Deathangel. - The community realises overwhelmingly that Vera was a fraud. A shitstorm commences. Vera immediately nukes all her social media realising she's been caught. - Vera originally planned to get coaching from Deathangel apparently to get from Masters to GM. Instead, she turned the conversation to him boosting her account and pretending to be her. - Vera confess although she insists that Deathangel got pretty much all the profits. - Deathangel confesses too but gives an unsympathetic response. - Both players get perma-banned from TL. | ||
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nebula.
Sweden1431 Posts
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Spidinko
Slovakia1174 Posts
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:24 DeathAngel[ro] wrote: I just wanna know if you guys enjoyed the playstyle or the girl aspect ... This post is awesome but it also really shows the problem that this scene is having. The amount of attention given to females within the scene is absolutely insane when compared against their skill. This is not to say that they don't deserve any attention whatsoever but barring Scarlett I can't think of any woman who has the results to back up their fanbase. The saddest thing about the current state is that someone like Vera (talking about before last night's revelation) has a bigger footprint then for example DeathAngel did, even though he made the finals of de Code A qualifiers twice (I believe that's the best performance out of any foreigner when it comes to code A qualifiers) | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
oh wait. | ||
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Foudzing
France181 Posts
On September 25 2012 22:02 Wroshe wrote: This post is awesome but it also really shows the problem that this scene is having. The amount of attention given to females within the scene is absolutely insane when compared against their skill. This is not to say that they don't deserve any attention whatsoever but barring Scarlett I can't think of any woman who has the results to back up their fanbase. The saddest thing about the current state is that someone like Vera (talking about before last night's revelation) has a bigger footprint then for example DeathAngel did, even though he made the finals of de Code A qualifiers twice (I believe that's the best performance out of any foreigner when it comes to code A qualifiers) I totally agree with you here. It's difficult for a Romanian player to get a big fanbase if he's not a top class player. The saddest thing is not the stratagem or Vera/Deathangel attitude, it's that this stratagem completely worked.. Taking Vera identity allowed DeathAngel to play showmatches he's not usually invited to under his real identity. All DeathAngel wanted was to play showmatches and earn a bit of money, nothing bad. But when he played exclusively female tournaments, there he really cheated. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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PvP
Canada78 Posts
And am grateful to have not been a part of it. | ||
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Agathon
France1505 Posts
It doesn't make the shit forgivable, but i think that it's something that people have to know. EDIT : 75€ | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
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MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
On September 25 2012 22:02 Wroshe wrote: This post is awesome but it also really shows the problem that this scene is having. The amount of attention given to females within the scene is absolutely insane when compared against their skill. This is not to say that they don't deserve any attention whatsoever but barring Scarlett I can't think of any woman who has the results to back up their fanbase. The saddest thing about the current state is that someone like Vera (talking about before last night's revelation) has a bigger footprint then for example DeathAngel did, even though he made the finals of de Code A qualifiers twice (I believe that's the best performance out of any foreigner when it comes to code A qualifiers) I just think people want to see females that could compete. It's very hard to get at the top of this game, there's tons of players and tons of pros out there who are on the same page as you and trying their hardest to win stuff. don't go and say these girls suck. It just happens that there's not many girls that can defeat guys in a tournament, but with the popularity and with the acceptance of girls in gaming , there could be more and more. | ||
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