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gangstarr
Profile Joined October 2010
United States68 Posts
June 04 2012 23:50 GMT
#1
I understand I will probably be banned following this post or it may be deleted, however, this is definitive proof that Spades could not have possibly been hacking during this series. I cannot speak for other games that he's played, however, there are multiple features and functions within a legitimate SCII hack that would prevent MANY of the occurences and mistakes that Spades made during those games from happening. Obviously you cannot scout or prevent every attack, or blind counter every unit comp; however, there were crucial and vital engagements and attacks during these games that would have been easily prevented by even a new hacker based on the functions that are implemented.

; ====== Dropship Alert ======
; 医疗运输机报警

; Enable Dropship alert.
; 0 = Disable, 1 = Enable.
; 医疗运输机报警,0关闭,1开启
Dropship_Alert=1



This is a very simple explanation of why Spades DEFINITELY was not hacking. Not only does this alert 'ping' the minimap when a drop ship is loaded and the location it's currently in; it also 'pings' the exact location of where the 'drop' command is issued to drop the unit.. It is a VERY clear indication of a drop and when it is coming. It also throws text along the bottom of the screen to tell you what the ping is for.

Any player with Spades game knowledge would've found a way to scout the drop innocently. Whether it be pathing units underneath the drop by 'accident' or starting to build a depot near the location of the drop's target area.

This was not added to the original thread because after reviewing all the replays, it is physically impossible that someone using this hack would be able to ignore these KEY factors and functions of a hack. A person would have to have absolute down syndrome not to set up a faux defense to quickly catch on to drops and army movements enough to lose a game.

Say what you will about me hacking or whatever; I haven't played SC2 in months but quite frankly a person of Spades caliber in terms of skill would at least patrol vikings or units on the outskirts of his base to at least fool the viewers and the opposing players into thinking that he/she wasn't hacking.

User was temp banned for this post.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
June 04 2012 23:52 GMT
#2
Why not post in the other thread.
gangstarr
Profile Joined October 2010
United States68 Posts
June 04 2012 23:52 GMT
#3
Lost in translation with all the other junk posts.
DaCheF
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
June 04 2012 23:53 GMT
#4
It's hard try to cover up your hacking and play a solid game at the same time. He probably also hasn't gotten the lastest hack yet.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
June 04 2012 23:54 GMT
#5
Wait, didn't you just post this exact same thread? :S
memes are a dish best served dank
gangstarr
Profile Joined October 2010
United States68 Posts
June 04 2012 23:54 GMT
#6
The hack auto-updates. You can't be using an old version. That feature has been out for months.
gangstarr
Profile Joined October 2010
United States68 Posts
June 04 2012 23:54 GMT
#7
On June 05 2012 08:54 marttorn wrote:
Wait, didn't you just post this exact same thread? :S


I think I double posted or something, glad it's fixed now.
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
June 04 2012 23:55 GMT
#8
So... Spades likely didn't use a dropship alert. Cool. Doesn't speak to any other accusations.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 23:56:30
June 04 2012 23:56 GMT
#9
Random pings on your map will make you move your camera there habitually and make you even more of a fishy player

The idea is to cheat but not be blatant about it

There's plenty of reasons to not use this feature, and plenty of ways to cheat without it. You've really proved nothing
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 04 2012 23:56 GMT
#10
This doesn't need it's own thread...
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
June 04 2012 23:56 GMT
#11
You might want to take out "They'll ban me" because that's martyring and self-fulfilling. Saying that you're going to be banned is against the rules, so better to not say it and have a chance.
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 04 2012 23:56 GMT
#12
As prophesied.
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