The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.

Zambrah

United States7393 Posts

March 08 2012 22:02 GMT

#101

I wish people would stop calling orb racist, I didn't see any kind of hate speech towards a specific race, I see a word that can be used interchangeably with a multitude of other words to achieve a similar effect.

God damn, it irks me when people get up in arms about a word because of the word itself, nigger is HARDLY used primarily as a racial slur any more, its just become one of the other numerous insulting nouns.

Incidentally, this is ladder rage/BM, big deal, maybe if he said this on the EG MCSL stream or something, but this? Bah, get over it.

Malgrif

Canada1095 Posts

March 08 2012 22:02 GMT

#102

lol no one is offended everyone just likes to watch a train wreck

valaki

Hungary2476 Posts

March 08 2012 22:02 GMT

#103

Okay, guys. For someone who doesn't live in the US, can you tell me how it's totally normal for black people to call themselves and even other people niggers, while when white people use the term it becomes a criminal offense? I'm aware the history of black people in America, but doesn't this a bit too hypocrite? Not to mention that only like 2% of SC2's userbase is black (according to a non representative poll in one of the threads back then) so chances that the guy is indeed black and got offended too is...slim. For me, as long as you don't use the word nigger in an offensive conxtext against a black people, it's no worse than faggot or gay or any kind of petty insult. (or you think is an insult)

Testuser

6469 Posts

March 08 2012 22:02 GMT

#104

He I think he already explained this in the other thread?

And what is the purpose of this exactly?

porridge

Canada9 Posts

March 08 2012 22:02 GMT

#105

On March 09 2012 06:20 cscarfo1 wrote:
This honestly isn't necessary to have on Team Liquid. Leave stuff like this to reddit. Orb shouldn't even listen to reddit, they can say whatever they want and have no penalty to it what so ever. That's the only thing that is giving this non sense publicity

By that logic, nobody should even listen to Orb, since he can say whatever he wants without any consequences.
Actually, I fully agree. Hopefully, he can just shut up and stay at home, then everybody can stop giving him publicity.

y0su

Finland7871 Posts

March 08 2012 22:02 GMT

#106

I don't know that this needs it's own thread...
however, the situation does suck. I liked orb's casting but will not watch his stream or any he's casting on after this =/
(I also don't watch other stream(s) for similar reasons)

NEEDZMOAR

Sweden1277 Posts

March 08 2012 22:02 GMT

#107

On March 09 2012 06:57 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:

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Orb is a well known member of the community, that's why hes getting defended. He said these things on his own time. Hes not "clearly a racist and demeaning of sexual orientation" (so politically correct T_T), hes a guy raging on the internet. If everyone who called someone a nigger or a faggot was a racist and hated gay people, this world would be horrible.

The fact that he lied about it is what makes this so awful (if he did). The majority of people won't care if he got mad, and these things boil over fast, but lying stays with you FOREVER.

just because people sit behind a computer doesnt mean that their choice of words wont give any ramafications.

TheeCrooKed

United States27 Posts

March 08 2012 22:03 GMT

#108

No one is ever going to recognize e sports as a legitimate business if we have the more well-known figures behaving like this. This isn't acceptable in real-world business, so why is it ok here? Professionalism should be held in the highest regard and unfortunately there are several e-sports figures who do not.

Personally I don't care what the guy does on his own time, but he still represents an organization even when he's not "on the clock." Look at some major athletes that lost some sponsorship because of behavior on their own time, ie, Michael Phelps and Tiger Woods.

Thylacine

Sweden882 Posts

March 08 2012 22:03 GMT

#109

Hes guilty.

nOondn

564 Posts

March 08 2012 22:03 GMT

#110

The bad things is he lied to us.
proof :

I don't know how to respond to this post without being extremely and increasingly angry. I have fully admitted to that SINGLE MOMENT in my stream when I used the N word back in beta. I apologized profusely for it and it even cost me my featured stream on TL.

From me using the N word a single time in the last 2 years against a proven maphacker, and for you people to come in MY HOUSE (aka my stream thread) and try to tell me I use it every single day as part of my regular vocabulary is slanderous and hypocritically highly offensive.

Try to at least put some thought into your words before you spew them out of your keyboard

the evidence show that he is not only use only single N word back in beta,but many time.

PopcornColonel

United States769 Posts

March 08 2012 22:03 GMT

#111

..well dang. Let's all freak out at combatex but not at orb.

Shinespark

Chile843 Posts

March 08 2012 22:03 GMT

#112

I had no idea Orb was so BM, every time I've seen him cast he has conducted himself properly. I have to say I find his BM... hilarious.

brobrah

220 Posts

March 08 2012 22:03 GMT

#113

Racial slurs are not something you can just throw out there whenever. They have meaning and people don't like them for a reason.

gurrpp

United States437 Posts

March 08 2012 22:03 GMT

#114

Orb needs to smoke more weed while laddering. Maybe then he wouldn't rage so much.

I'm not even mad that he mouthed off on his stream. I'm mad that he tries to deny his shit and gets EG to vouch for him.

Cokefreak

Finland8096 Posts

March 08 2012 22:03 GMT

#115

The BM is pretty standard for ladder, but why would he try and deny all this when there is no way he could succeed in that... If he had just manned up and admitted that it was him instead of doing wierd "yeah it's a friend I'm sharing the account with" stuff I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't care this much.

ImbaTosS

United Kingdom1753 Posts

March 08 2012 22:03 GMT

#116

Why do people think that because it's normal, it's acceptable? How can a man who is clearly incredibly rude, unsportsmanlike and frankly downright horrible to people on ladder, be a face of the community or respected by anybody?

NEEDZMOAR

Sweden1277 Posts

March 08 2012 22:04 GMT

#117

On March 09 2012 07:02 valaki wrote:
Okay, guys. For someone who doesn't live in the US, can you tell me how it's totally normal for black people to call themselves and even other people niggers, while when white people use the term it becomes a criminal offense? I'm aware the history of black people in America, but doesn't this a bit too hypocrite? Not to mention that only like 2% of SC2's userbase is black (according to a non representative poll in one of the threads back then) so chances that the guy is indeed black and got offended too is...slim. For me, as long as you don't use the word nigger in an offensive conxtext against a black people, it's no worse than faggot or gay or any kind of petty insult. (or you think is an insult)

why is it ok for gay people to make gay jokes? why is it ok for poor people to make jokes about how poor they are but when filthy rich people do it it's discusting, because if you're in the shit, it's ok.

Ornithorynquez

430 Posts

March 08 2012 22:04 GMT

#118

Who gives a damn shit as long as he provides insanely good casts.

shabby

Norway6402 Posts

March 08 2012 22:04 GMT

#119

On March 09 2012 06:59 NEEDZMOAR wrote:

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and that's a good thing? why should we accept racism?

Why should we accept attacks on homosexuality? Or attacks on a persons intellect? Or attacks on ones bodily or facial features? You're drawing a line that suits you, racism isnt "worse" than talking smack about anything else you're born with and can't change.