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TheDoK666
France179 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:31 Agathon wrote: He was elected. Like Hitler; It's true, humiliation after WWI was the worth possible idea and killed the young republic of Weimach. We started them, helped by UK and USA (thats the reason why Hilter used to hate these countries too) No, he was appointed by Poincaré (who was the elected president). | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
I still remember a funny anecdote that I'm still not sure how I feel about. I was 11 or 12 at the time and my friend was teasing me about being French (it was really teasing, nothing nasty about it). I decided to go complain to the bus driver about how she was teasing me, the bus driver being a friend of mine. Upon hearing me talking about how my friend should stop teasing me, the bus driver sort of angrily exploded about how the French were cowards who wouldn't go to war, damn the French, etc, etc. The bus driver had no idea I was French, since I'd lived in the USA since I was two years old and I was almost more American than French. Anyway, this bummed the shit out of me and I went back to my seat, crying. My friend was also bummed out about it and when her stop came she told the bus driver that I was French before getting off. The bus driver realized what he'd said and when my turn came to get off the bus he talked a bit about how he had once been to France and it was a beautiful country. I was kinda touched that he valued not being a dick to a buddy more than his hate for France being cowards. Today I still have a good memory of that bus driver. All in all it makes me think that the animosity between our countries really isn't that big a deal, mostly just teasing. At least today. Back in 2002-2004 it definitely wasn't the case. We ourselves respect Americans and their life styles (big cars, big lawns, all those stereotypes) yet we also make fun of some of their silly aspects. Like some of the things people sue for. ^^ That said I still get annoyed when I see people on the internet bashing France. I've seen this on TL as well. I of course never say anything, because there's simply nothing to be gained from it. Ignorant fools, what can I say. ;( | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:19 Stratos_speAr wrote: I always find it incredibly frustrating when people push forward the BS stereotype that the French are cowards and always lose. The French have probably had just as much conflict as any other European region, and I can only remember two wars that the French actually lost (Franco-Prussian and Napoleon's reign ended in defeat, but hell that doesn't even count as a loss). Not only that, France came up with the greatest military general in earth's history and the largest mainland European empire in the world's history (Napoleon the Great). Actually having a bloody history is something negative in terms of manliness. Yeah I know that sounds like it doesn't make sense, but see it this way. Throughout history there have been badasses who nobody dared to fuck with, like the spartans in their hardcore period, although technically they've been constantly in war since they declared war every year on their slaves(yep). Or the Prussians, after the Soldier king modernized their army. That people wage wars on you actually just means that their leaders are idiots (French-Prussian-War) or that they think that they could win against you. PS: Napoleon as the greatest military genius of the world?lol Oh and he was Italian(Corsica) and only rose so high because he was discriminated for being small and speaking with a weird accent as a child. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:47 SilentchiLL wrote: Throughout history there have been badasses who nobody dared to fuck with, like the spartans . Tell that to men of Thebes, who made spartans their own bitches. | ||
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Sireph
United States43 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:37 Al Bundy wrote: I am french. Sometimes I think that people are right to bash us. I'm going to generalize a bit here, but it's undeniable that some of us are chauvinistic, pretentious, uneducated assholes. Not to mention we can't behave when abroad, and that's really unfortunate because everytime I go abroad, I think man our reputation definitely precedes us. I'm kind of tired having to pay for my fellow Frenchmen's incongruous behavior. I am American. Sometimes I think that people are right to bash us. I'm going to generalize a bit here, but it's undeniable that some of us are chauvinistic, pretentious, uneducated assholes. Not to mention we can't behave when abroad, and that's really unfortunate because everytime I go abroad, I think man our reputation definitely precedes us. I'm kind of tired having to pay for my fellow Americans' incongruous behavior. In other words, there are always going to be the black sheep that you can pick out and make fun of. There will always be stereotypes an uneducated people to make the rest of us look bad, even in the esports/starcraft community. The best we can do is just follow the golden rule. | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:50 hitthat wrote: Tell that to men of Thebes, who made spartans their own bitches. Exceptions prove the rule. | ||
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BestFriends
Canada133 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:29 MandoRelease wrote: Without ever having to pay anything ? When you come from a poor family maybe, because the French system regarding scholarship and taxe reduction is ludicrous, for the rest of us, one actually has to pay a bit. Not that much over the course of a year, admittedly, but still a decent amount. I went into a pure public formation, elementary school, middle school, high school, classe préparatoire, Polytechnique. Never, ever, payed a single € for my formation. And I never had a scolarship. But yeah, if you want to go to the university, the French educational system is not that awesome. It's way more centered around Grandes Écoles regarding scientific training (which is the formation usually used as a benchmark). | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
 i have had 5 years of french in school now 4 hours each week and it's soooo bad not saying that german is a better language because german is also quite bad but if you compare english to french... i mean they have different grammatic types of questions JUST BECAUSE IT SOUNDS BETTER .come on + Show Spoiler + obviously not serious+ Show Spoiler + well kinda not serious at least | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:47 SilentchiLL wrote: Actually having a bloody history is something negative in terms of manliness. Yeah I know that sounds like it doesn't make sense, but see it this way. Throughout history there have been badasses who nobody dared to fuck with, like the spartans in their hardcore period, although technically they've been constantly in war since they declared war every year on their slaves(yep). Or the Prussians, after the Soldier king modernized their army. That people wage wars on you actually just means that their leaders are idiots (French-Prussian-War) or that they think that they could win against you. PS: Napoleon as the greatest military genius of the world?lol Oh and he was Italian(Corsica) and only rose so high because he was discriminated for being small and speaking with a weird accent as a child. It's not about manliness, it's about the fact that the French have never been cowards. And yes, Napoleon was one of the greatest (if not the greatest) military leaders of all time. And he was of Italian ancestry, but was born in French territory (Corsica was French territory at the time of his birth) and spent his whole life as a Frenchman. Just because I'm of dominantly Irish and German ancestry doesn't make me a non-American. His circumstances are completely irrelevant when talking about his nationality. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
Please let's not spout cliches with the intent of sounding intelligent and wise. Basic statistics says the opposite. | ||
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Black[CAT]
Malaysia2589 Posts
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:57 Stratos_speAr wrote: It's not about manliness, it's about the fact that the French have never been cowards. And yes, Napoleon was one of the greatest (if not the greatest) military leaders of all time. And he was of Italian ancestry, but was born in French territory (Corsica was French territory at the time of his birth) and spent his whole life as a Frenchman. Just because I'm of dominantly Irish and German ancestry doesn't make me a non-American. His circumstances are completely irrelevant when talking about his nationality. I just commented on his "moment of manly history", not the stereotype itself  And I read a lot about Napoleon, and yeah he was good, maybe even one of the best, but he is also immensely overrated (though his actions did have big consequences ofc) | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:59 Black[CAT] wrote: I heard of french bashing of France surrendering during WW2 and cant fight the war without help... Which is ridiculous since the German war machine was so strong that it took four major powers combined AND the Nazis being stupid enough to invade Russia for them to lose. | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:58 DoubleReed wrote: I just see it as somewhat friendly rivalry. I think there are a decent amount French people that legitimately don't like Americans though, but that's obviously just minor racism. Most of the time it's just banter. We share heritage with the English, so we're always going to take England's side on things, including making fun of the french. Please let's not spout cliches with the intent of sounding intelligent and wise. Basic statistics says the opposite. I just wanted to say that just because there's one excepotion doesn't mean that something's entirely wrong. And saying I do it to sound intelligent just because you don't understand it is kinda mean ;_; | ||
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PlayX
Germany79 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:58 TheKefka wrote: I wish my country was halfway relevant for someone to even think about bashing it in the first place :< Croatias soccer national team is better than the french team for a couple of years. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
No other reason for me. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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