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Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
September 30 2011 05:33 GMT
#21
Whatever the controversy, I always side with Anderson Cooper. Ever since "The Mole". You can't be that cool and not be right.
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zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
September 30 2011 05:37 GMT
#22
It's true that post-puberty isn't pedophile anymore. The whole definition means being intrested sexually in people before they hit puberty.

That said if you make a dedicated direction on a website to post pictures of very young girls you can pretty much expect public backlash.

And whilst it's not pedophile levels i do think it's kind of creepy.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
September 30 2011 05:40 GMT
#23
I think issues like this arise with a lot of site with little to no moderation. Take craigslist for example. They get a bum wrap because a lot of pimps, prostitutes and drug dealers use their site to advertise their services. Is it their fault people abuse their low moderation policy or use discreet euphemisms to circumvent ToU agreements?

I personally feel like as long as such material is not illegal (the post itself) and people dont gain direct access to it (they are forced to search specifically for it, its not on the homepage or something) then it is okay. I see how people can see it differently though.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 05:42:16
September 30 2011 05:41 GMT
#24
On September 30 2011 14:32 darkscream wrote:
Honestly, some of the puritans in this thread... Nature picks a time for people to be interested in sex. That time is puberty -- You get there and it suddenly becomes reality for you. This whole idea of some magic line you cross at age 18 (or any age) is a real problem.. the government has no place in regulating the mating behaviours of people.

Children should be protected, absolutely. Teenagers aren't children. In years past, even in north america, you were a man at 15 and you went to war. Young women were wed at similar ages - usually after their first period.

A few select countries around the world decided at some point to legally define being an adult at age 18, and then somehow sexual relations became restricted to only adults.

Now, I respect everybody's point of view but sexual desire for another human who has completed puberty is not sick. It's instinct. The only way it's wrong is if someone forces the act on another, and I think we can all agree that it doesn't matter what age you are if that happens.



so you think people who are fresh out of puberty should have kids (since thats what is having sex for, naturally speaking of course but you opened the door for nature imo)

are you deluded or wat
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Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
September 30 2011 05:44 GMT
#25
I don't like the idea of jail bait pics online at all...those people that are placing them up are wrong. In the cases it is the girl of the age of 12 posting up her own pic... well legally she has that right and no one in the USA can stop her(not even her parents) Legally it is protected under the Constitution of America as part of the right to free speech(don't believe me ? learn some new shit today and Google it)

All in all Anderson Coopers' agenda is obvious and well warranted, reddit should not condone such pictures at all and the mods of these threads should be intelligent enough to remove threads that contain such content...Facebook and myspace do it all the time why can't reddit?
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 05:47:42
September 30 2011 05:46 GMT
#26
So Reddit is basically a super gay version of 4chan. Why is no one campaigning to get that shit shut down? Ah.... media. So stupid. 4chan and its various offspring have been overloaded with gore, kiddy porn, and other very questionable shit for upwards of 7-8 years. Maybe that should be a priority? Derp.
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 30 2011 05:49 GMT
#27
Wait wait. You mean the mainstream media mocking people and using subversive means to paint a group/people/person/anything or anyone they dislike in a way that shows them negatively?!

This is entirely new and unheard of!

Where was all the outrage at these guys calling every tea party member a racist and violent?
How about the slandering of news media they dont' like?
Oh or about reporters they disagree with?
Or the complete sweeping under the rug of stories that could paint the people they like in a bad light?

Welcome to how the media works. It's biased, subjective to what you believe in and more then likely is doing it to scare some and make themselves look better.

They are going after Reddit because it's the new. They don't like the idea of people taking their viewers or the fact that a majority of Reddit reports on news faster then they do. Which proves just how lackluster a good portion of the traditional media is.

He's trying to drag Reddit through the mud simply to make his job look less worthless because most folks are realizing that political pundits are worthless.

For the record. I don't use reddit.
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branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
September 30 2011 05:56 GMT
#28
On September 30 2011 14:46 ayaz2810 wrote:
So Reddit is basically a super gay version of 4chan. Why is no one campaigning to get that shit shut down? Ah.... media. So stupid. 4chan and its various offspring have been overloaded with gore, kiddy porn, and other very questionable shit for upwards of 7-8 years. Maybe that should be a priority? Derp.


4chan doesn't endorse its content, it's just an anonymous forum with topics. If someone made a new account on TL and posted child porn in a thread would you link that image with TL, or just call that specific user a nutjob?
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 30 2011 06:01 GMT
#29
Anderson Cooper didn't seem so outrageous in that segment. That child porn prosecutor though, she sounds like a fact-twisting bitch. Sorry to use such language, but she tries to twist words and facts to benefit her side while trying to sound sweet at the same time. Pisses me off so much.
strikerz200
Profile Joined September 2011
58 Posts
September 30 2011 06:01 GMT
#30
lol I wasn't much of a reddit user
but this is quite good.

P.S - There are so many hot girls here.. wat the f...
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
September 30 2011 06:03 GMT
#31
On September 30 2011 15:01 EtherealDeath wrote:
Anderson Cooper didn't seem so outrageous in that segment. That child porn prosecutor though, she sounds like a fact-twisting bitch. Sorry to use such language, but she tries to twist words and facts to benefit her side while trying to sound sweet at the same time. Pisses me off so much.


Dude that's her job... shes a prosecutor for a court of law.... yes she will twist every word and movement into something that makes her case stronger that's what they do.
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dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
September 30 2011 06:08 GMT
#32
Yes. Hopefully my thread helped this happen
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Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
September 30 2011 06:08 GMT
#33
On September 30 2011 14:46 ayaz2810 wrote:
So Reddit is basically a super gay version of 4chan. Why is no one campaigning to get that shit shut down? Ah.... media. So stupid. 4chan and its various offspring have been overloaded with gore, kiddy porn, and other very questionable shit for upwards of 7-8 years. Maybe that should be a priority? Derp.


Gore isn't illegal and you get IP banned from 4chan for having Child Pron.

Funny how you instantly call out 4chan when you know nothing about the website.

I think the slowest they banned somebody for attempting to spread child porn is like 4 minutes?

Pretty good for the biggest forum.
iLikeRain
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark504 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 06:19:27
September 30 2011 06:19 GMT
#34
I had no idea that subforum existed a just went to see exactly what it was. It's very messed up. There's a clear indication that people upload pictures of minors, although dressed, purely for their own sick desires.

It's disgusting
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Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 06:25:41
September 30 2011 06:23 GMT
#35
I think he means /b/, lol.

Blatant ignorance on his part, really.

On September 30 2011 15:08 Tippecanoe wrote:
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On September 30 2011 14:46 ayaz2810 wrote:
So Reddit is basically a super gay version of 4chan. Why is no one campaigning to get that shit shut down? Ah.... media. So stupid. 4chan and its various offspring have been overloaded with gore, kiddy porn, and other very questionable shit for upwards of 7-8 years. Maybe that should be a priority? Derp.


Gore isn't illegal and you get IP banned from 4chan for having Child Pron.

Funny how you instantly call out 4chan when you know nothing about the website.

I think the slowest they banned somebody for attempting to spread child porn is like 4 minutes?

Pretty good for the biggest forum.


CP has been up for more than 4 minutes in my experience. Whenever I see it I instantly report it and make sure that it gets taken down. There was once a thread that went on for well over 10-15 minutes and I kept on reporting every picture.
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darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
September 30 2011 06:24 GMT
#36
On September 30 2011 14:41 askTeivospy wrote:

so you think people who are fresh out of puberty should have kids (since thats what is having sex for, naturally speaking of course but you opened the door for nature imo)

are you deluded or wat


Ad hominem, nice. Don't just take the word "nature" and invent some dumbass worst-case-scenario argument.



No, I think people who are fresh out of puberty should be able to make their own choices, suffer consequences and learn from them. This includes taking pictures of themselves and posting them online.

What I don't believe in though, is third parties outside the family trying to manage what they do, how they do it, or who can observe it. Anderson Cooper's angle is basically, "Shouldn't we regulate this?" and the answer is most certainly no. However, he is an expert media manipulator, so he can take something like "internet regulation" and attach it to "pedophilia and child porn", creating a straw man in support of his argument for regulation. And, most people watching televised news won't take the time to actually find out what the website is for themselves.... an attribute televised news frequently exploits.

In fact, nobody on /r/jailbait is being hurt, being abused and forced to take these pictures, and they are not being harmed by any observers of these pictures either REGARDLESS of what someone's intent is for looking at them. Those pictures have no identity, no personal information, and for some (not all) of them you can't even tell they were "under 18".. because nature distinguishes for you what is an adult and what is not, you can tell by your own personal reaction to the pictures which ones are ripe and which ones are too young for your tastes.


Besides, there's nothing on /r/jailbait that you wouldn't see in a goddamned magazine for teens. Advertisers sell them sex appeal all day and all night and they buy it right up.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
September 30 2011 06:26 GMT
#37
On September 30 2011 15:19 iLikeRain wrote:
I had no idea that subforum existed a just went to see exactly what it was. It's very messed up. There's a clear indication that people upload pictures of minors, although dressed, purely for their own sick desires.

It's disgusting


Not really. There's a big difference between a minor and a child.
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Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 06:32:58
September 30 2011 06:28 GMT
#38
I think it's funny that people are coming into this thread saying it's not wrong because it's legal. Something can be both fucked up and legal. I listened to Anderson Cooper's segment (not the guests though), and his point seemed to be that it was creepy (basically immoral).

To me that's not fear mongering. It's legit to say that having a dedicated subforum for posting underage pictures of girls is creepy.

Also he DID, 100% point out that this was only a subforum of an extremely popular site. The OP is simply inaccurate in its claim that AC unfairly characterized Reddit.

No, I think people who are fresh out of puberty should be able to make their own choices, suffer consequences and learn from them. This includes taking pictures of themselves and posting them online.


This sounds all fine and good, but you need to take into account that you wouldn't buy into this if you had kids and that in the U.S. people under the ages of 18 are not considered adults, regardless of whether you think this is right or fair.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
September 30 2011 06:38 GMT
#39
btw, that sub-reddit is now full of hilarious pictures of anderson cooper. Laughs for all sides of the argument!
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
September 30 2011 06:39 GMT
#40
Please stick to the original thread.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240225
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