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HunterK
Profile Joined April 2011
Argentina68 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 16:44:38
July 23 2011 12:12 GMT
#1
MOD EDIT

On July 24 2011 01:39 Spades wrote:
Reign will make a statement shortly, i assure you this is not what happened. Thanks Desrow




Jeon Young Sik, ex PhoeNixWeRRa, apparently has left his team.

[image loading]

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/ixlat/the_reign_of_phoenix_is_over/

I don't know the perspective of the other side of the story.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
July 23 2011 12:14 GMT
#2
wow. another team in esports screwing over its players ;(
TL+ Member
Maffe
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden133 Posts
July 23 2011 12:15 GMT
#3
Oh wow. If that's true, this will hurt the scene quite a bit.
im this and what is 12
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
July 23 2011 12:15 GMT
#4
Wonder if this team is gonna collapse, and who sponsors RGN anyways?
iMp.will.
Profile Joined July 2009
Bulgaria441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 12:24:13
July 23 2011 12:15 GMT
#5
Whooooooooooooooooooooooosh

User was temp banned for this post.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 23 2011 12:16 GMT
#6
We'll while it's not confirmed before some sort of official statement this looks kinda bad for Reign especially after disbanding their old team ><
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Maffe
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden133 Posts
July 23 2011 12:16 GMT
#7
On July 23 2011 21:15 iMp.will. wrote:
Like a give a shit about some random newb.


Why are you hating?

He's a top korean gm player. He's not some "random newb"
im this and what is 12
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
July 23 2011 12:17 GMT
#8
On July 23 2011 21:15 zaii wrote:
Wonder if this team is gonna collapse, and who sponsors RGN anyways?


RGN is VT's new sc2 team
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 23 2011 12:17 GMT
#9
I don't see why it would hurt the scene. Reign hasn't done anything in particular yet, its a team that is essentially VT gaming except brand spanking new, Kiwikaki and Fayth has been at the WSOP the past week and a half. None of their players have really competed in anything yet under the name save for the IPL which is prerecorded (not sure how long though).

I wonder why that conversation was leaked though.
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rawe
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden83 Posts
July 23 2011 12:19 GMT
#10
On July 23 2011 21:17 Zlasher wrote:
I wonder why that conversation was leaked though.


It's desrow.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 23 2011 12:21 GMT
#11
On July 23 2011 21:19 rawe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:17 Zlasher wrote:
I wonder why that conversation was leaked though.


It's desrow.


I am no longer surprised.
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whaty0uwant
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand346 Posts
July 23 2011 12:22 GMT
#12
LOL who is reign anyway? BL Pheonix.

User was warned for this post
iMp.will.
Profile Joined July 2009
Bulgaria441 Posts
July 23 2011 12:22 GMT
#13
On July 23 2011 21:16 Maffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:15 iMp.will. wrote:
Like a give a shit about some random newb.


Why are you hating?

He's a top korean gm player. He's not some "random newb"


Thought he was someone else.

w/e

Hatin'
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
July 23 2011 12:24 GMT
#14
"Broken Promise"...hmmmm..let's wait for something official to come out.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
July 23 2011 12:25 GMT
#15
Guess it isn't all nice and rosy for Koreans moving into the foreigner scene.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 23 2011 12:25 GMT
#16
That's a stupid thing to leak.
Heathen
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines351 Posts
July 23 2011 12:28 GMT
#17
So much unrest in teams. I wish there was a regular team league for non korean teams. heheeh
sukarestu
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia40 Posts
July 23 2011 12:28 GMT
#18
I was hoping to watch Phoenix perform in MLG
Kinda sad now that ic he can't go..
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
July 23 2011 12:29 GMT
#19
this wasn't leaked, this was said on his stream when playing vs desrow.
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aDd3z
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany885 Posts
July 23 2011 12:30 GMT
#20
thats sad if its true
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 23 2011 12:32 GMT
#21
On July 23 2011 21:29 Let it Raine wrote:
this wasn't leaked, this was said on his stream when playing vs desrow.


Yeah but it wasn't like someone screenshotted the stream and posted it, it was desrow himself who posted the conversation on reddit lol.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 23 2011 12:35 GMT
#22
We're in crazy period of transition as SCII is experiencing a lot of growth.
So many teams and players disbanding, reconstructing, going to and from Korea.

I doubt PhoeNix will be the only one in the next couple weeks to jump ships... trying to find some solid ground in such an volatile market...
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
FireFish
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark228 Posts
July 23 2011 12:37 GMT
#23
Wow, this is terrible..
LowChucky
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom243 Posts
July 23 2011 12:37 GMT
#24
Ahh desrow, what a pleb
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 23 2011 12:38 GMT
#25
There are other ways of addressing such issues.
rbkl
Profile Joined March 2010
772 Posts
July 23 2011 12:40 GMT
#26
Are we sure that this isn't some misinterpretation of broken english?

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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 12:44:56
July 23 2011 12:43 GMT
#27
We are assuming a lot based on that conversation. I could be interpreted as he is leaving Reign, but it could be something like Pheonix saying "Hey guys I am out for the night, have a good night" and then someone asks "You going to Anahiem?" and his response is "No, I lent my brother some money and he promised to pay me back, but didn't, so I can afford it..."

What I just wrote in quotes makes just as much sense (even more to me) that assuming that he is leaving the team. I think we need to wait for an official statement.
HunterK
Profile Joined April 2011
Argentina68 Posts
July 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#28
He said on his stream, don't have a screenshot of it, though.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 23 2011 12:47 GMT
#29
I hope this gets explained soon. Lets see Reign's side of the story.
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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 13:01:05
July 23 2011 12:49 GMT
#30
where it actually says he left? Did he mention something or just based on the chat pic.

Edit: Oh posted by Desrow himself :D got it.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 12:53:09
July 23 2011 12:52 GMT
#31
reign has a really solid lineup as well, i wonder why they would do this.

kiwi/phoenix/slush > most teams out there

edit:

1. didn't see desrow himself posted it, kind of weird but still somewhat okay lol.

2. phoenix says: "im out team" and that's assumed to mean that he's no longer on the team. (says that in the screenshot)
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Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
July 23 2011 13:00 GMT
#32
desrow used to be in VT, maybe some bitter feelings towards VT management?

I'm not surprised, Reign doesn't really have a sponsor except for the managements $$$.

Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
July 23 2011 13:03 GMT
#33
If this is true, it would be very disappointing.
sick_transit
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States195 Posts
July 23 2011 16:18 GMT
#34
This doesn't read to me like he quit the team. It reads like he's done for the night.

War is a drug.
Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
July 23 2011 16:21 GMT
#35
On July 23 2011 21:17 Zlasher wrote:
I don't see why it would hurt the scene. Reign hasn't done anything in particular yet, its a team that is essentially VT gaming except brand spanking new, Kiwikaki and Fayth has been at the WSOP the past week and a half. None of their players have really competed in anything yet under the name save for the IPL which is prerecorded (not sure how long though).

I wonder why that conversation was leaked though.


Because a team not paying their player is horrible publicity.
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 17:15:37
July 23 2011 16:26 GMT
#36
Reading this it seems like he left due to Reign breaking agreements but it really is hard to understand, probably best to wait for an answer from Reign, Its a shame if something like this really did happen though, Im a huge fan of phoenix.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 23 2011 16:28 GMT
#37
On July 24 2011 01:21 Triscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:17 Zlasher wrote:
I don't see why it would hurt the scene. Reign hasn't done anything in particular yet, its a team that is essentially VT gaming except brand spanking new, Kiwikaki and Fayth has been at the WSOP the past week and a half. None of their players have really competed in anything yet under the name save for the IPL which is prerecorded (not sure how long though).

I wonder why that conversation was leaked though.


Because a team not paying their player is horrible publicity.


this is an occurrence that has happened many times in the history of e-sports
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
July 23 2011 16:29 GMT
#38
I had heard rumors on this for a bit - not surprised

gl to phoenix and to reign hopefully fixing this issue
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
July 23 2011 16:30 GMT
#39
I don't know what's worse (not in scale, but in morality):

RGN's "broken promise"
DesRow's deliberate leak out of spite
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Carush
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
July 23 2011 16:32 GMT
#40
oh desrow...

how you never fail to surprise me with your ignorance
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10813 Posts
July 23 2011 16:33 GMT
#41
I'm not surprised to see this done by desRow, guy is such an attention starved child, maybe if you focused on your play instead of drama you would be good desRow....
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leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
July 23 2011 16:34 GMT
#42
I'm not surprised. Their website was scheduled to release weeks ago and they never released it.

http://teamreign.net/
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ccJroy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 16:38:22
July 23 2011 16:37 GMT
#43
On July 24 2011 01:33 GGzerG wrote:
I'm not surprised to see this done by desRow, guy is such an attention starved child, maybe if you focused on your play instead of drama you would be good desRow....


Wow someone beat me to it.

In all seriousness, im scarily thhinking that desrow did this on purpose for more publicity, first the paid advertise in TL (which im in no way dissing) but probably didnt get as much as he thought so something like this on REDDIT? really?.

With an announcement/leak like this, any publicity is good publicity. (Just basing this off the fact that he has 5x the viewers of any TL open streamer, which i see alotta names which i would personally find higher on the skill rung, as well as ICCup.TV)

Unfortunate to see this in the SC2 community, but as the community/teams grow, stuff like this is bound to happen and people trying to be first on the scene to gain viewership/publicity for it. Wonder if desrow is gonna get punishment for posting something like this on reddit before an official announcement is made.

If this is true then i feel sorry for phoenix depending on what the situation was that caused this, from the broken english it sounds like Reign didnt pay for something of his or isn't putting up what they promised.
Lol Rly?
Spades
Profile Joined September 2010
United States249 Posts
July 23 2011 16:39 GMT
#44
Reign will make a statement shortly, i assure you this is not what happened. Thanks Desrow
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
July 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#45
good ole' desrow. Lets wait for something official guys.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 16:41:48
July 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#46
Why would you leak this? If Phoenix parted ways with Reign, there would be a news post from the team itself. Good work Desrow.

I'm interested to see what Reign has to say and what actually happened, and thanks for the post Spades.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 23 2011 16:45 GMT
#47
On July 24 2011 01:39 Spades wrote:
Reign will make a statement shortly, i assure you this is not what happened. Thanks Desrow


better statement than what Scoots or Incontrol gave out following the EG/Puma translation lol
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sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 16:49:36
July 23 2011 16:46 GMT
#48
StarCraft 2 turned into DramaCraft 2 in a matter of a week. What the...


p.s. Pro PR control Spades. Its that simple. I hope Alex "blunder" Garfield is taking notes.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 23 2011 16:50 GMT
#49
On July 24 2011 01:39 Spades wrote:
Reign will make a statement shortly, i assure you this is not what happened. Thanks Desrow


Thanks for keeping us updated Spades.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 23 2011 16:50 GMT
#50
I am not sure why Desrow stil tags VT. He hasn't been associated with that team in a looooooooong time.

Wish there was clan support in SC2 so people can stop mis-representing.
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DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 16:52:03
July 23 2011 16:50 GMT
#51
Haha Desrow.... So many stories this week. and everyone forgot about Major and MaximusBlack. Who cares... In this situation it doesn't apply as much, because of the fact that the whole idea is wrong, not just part of it... He didn't leave reign.... Can people please stop posting threads with either:
A. A terrible source. In this case: Desrow and a Korean who speaks very little English and can be easily misunderstood. Every story I've seen this week, everyone has overreacted.

B. Before an Official Statement...

This is a news post if it were actually true saying the departure of phoenix.... Please, make the SC2 General a better place.
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arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
July 23 2011 16:54 GMT
#52
On July 24 2011 01:50 DeepBlu2 wrote:
He didn't leave reign.


How have you acquired this information?
mestake
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada9 Posts
July 23 2011 16:55 GMT
#53
On July 24 2011 01:39 Spades wrote:
Reign will make a statement shortly, i assure you this is not what happened. Thanks Desrow

Will their statement be here or in another thread?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 23 2011 16:55 GMT
#54
On July 24 2011 01:50 DeepBlu2 wrote:
Haha Desrow.... So many stories this week. and everyone forgot about Major and MaximusBlack. Who cares... In this situation it doesn't apply as much, because of the fact that the whole idea is wrong, not just part of it... He didn't leave reign.... Can people please stop posting threads with either:
A. A terrible source. In this case: Desrow and a Korean who speaks very little English and can be easily misunderstood. Every story I've seen this week, everyone has overreacted.

B. Before an Official Statement...

This is a news post if it were actually true saying the departure of phoenix.... Please, make the SC2 General a better place.


Wait, what happened with maximus.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 23 2011 17:00 GMT
#55
So much e-drama these days. I'm going to have to invest in a popcorn machine if this carries on.
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Shameless
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands349 Posts
July 23 2011 17:03 GMT
#56
Average player trying to get his 15 minutes of fame over the back of an actual pro, knew this would backfire the moment it got posted...
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Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
July 23 2011 17:21 GMT
#57
On July 24 2011 01:55 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 01:50 DeepBlu2 wrote:
Haha Desrow.... So many stories this week. and everyone forgot about Major and MaximusBlack. Who cares... In this situation it doesn't apply as much, because of the fact that the whole idea is wrong, not just part of it... He didn't leave reign.... Can people please stop posting threads with either:
A. A terrible source. In this case: Desrow and a Korean who speaks very little English and can be easily misunderstood. Every story I've seen this week, everyone has overreacted.

B. Before an Official Statement...

This is a news post if it were actually true saying the departure of phoenix.... Please, make the SC2 General a better place.


Wait, what happened with maximus.


type in "major smurf" in search

and LOL at this thread. wtf. i don't pay attention to desrow at all but he seems like a shitty person from all the consensus opinions in this thread. i was expecting someone to white knight him and be all, "FUCK YOU DESROW IS WAY BETTER THAN YOU AND DOES A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY" but there wasn't even one of those...
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
July 23 2011 17:22 GMT
#58
On July 24 2011 02:00 Telcontar wrote:
So much e-drama these days. I'm going to have to invest in a popcorn machine if this carries on.

http://drewminh.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn.gif

Seriously though, why do people feel the need to leak shit so they can get attention. Spades, great response, hope everything is well with the team. Treat KiWi well!
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 23 2011 17:25 GMT
#59
Will be waiting for Reign's statement since Spades has said it will be released shortly.

No point jumping to conclusions, particularly when the other side of the story should be coming shortly.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 17:26:59
July 23 2011 17:25 GMT
#60
edit - i will wait for explanation if there is any.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
July 23 2011 17:26 GMT
#61
I dont know the exact details of this situation.. but from my reading on it.. it SOUNDS like Desrow was just STREAMING when phoenix said that to him.. Desrow didnt go out of his way to "out" RGN, it just happened on a stream and therefor everyone watching it saw it..

Im not a big desrow fan either guys, but this has nothing to do with him "leaking" anything.. Phoenix leaked it, if anyone, most likely knowing desrow was streaming.
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 23 2011 17:27 GMT
#62
On July 24 2011 02:26 Skyze wrote:
I dont know the exact details of this situation.. but from my reading on it.. it SOUNDS like Desrow was just STREAMING when phoenix said that to him.. Desrow didnt go out of his way to "out" RGN, it just happened on a stream and therefor everyone watching it saw it..

Im not a big desrow fan either guys, but this has nothing to do with him "leaking" anything.. Phoenix leaked it, if anyone, most likely knowing desrow was streaming.


He posted it on reddit himself.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 17:33:16
July 23 2011 17:31 GMT
#63
this happens alot more than people think
most of these "upcoming" teams dont come through.

sides who gives a crap if this got "leaked". people stop having a baby over this stuff, it is still a game...

toastnbutter
Profile Joined June 2011
United States62 Posts
July 23 2011 17:33 GMT
#64
On July 24 2011 02:26 Skyze wrote:
I dont know the exact details of this situation.. but from my reading on it.. it SOUNDS like Desrow was just STREAMING when phoenix said that to him.. Desrow didnt go out of his way to "out" RGN, it just happened on a stream and therefor everyone watching it saw it..

Im not a big desrow fan either guys, but this has nothing to do with him "leaking" anything.. Phoenix leaked it, if anyone, most likely knowing desrow was streaming.


If you had looked at the source in the OP you would know that Desrow is the one that submitted this to reddit.
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#65
By the looks of it, desrow didn't do anything so I think everyone dissing him is a filthy cave-troll I could be wrong
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ccJroy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 17:42:13
July 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#66
On July 24 2011 02:40 Puph wrote:
By the looks of it, desrow didn't do anything so I think everyone dissing him is a filthy cave-troll I could be wrong


.............*crawls out from under rock* *checks 2 pages of thread*, o the fact that he posted this on reddit has been said about 100 times within the past hour?
Lol Rly?
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 23 2011 17:43 GMT
#67
On July 24 2011 02:31 PhiliBiRD wrote:
this happens alot more than people think
most of these "upcoming" teams dont come through.

sides who gives a crap if this got "leaked". people stop having a baby over this stuff, it is still a game...



Well first of all, it has already been said in the thread that it is not true that Phoenix left by Spades... so I'm not sure why you are defending people leaking information especially when it is apparently wrong. In fact it is bad for many reasons to spread incorrect information that reflects negatively on a team. Hopefully I don't have to explain why.

Also, how can you say "it is still a game..." You may as well say a league like the NBA is "just a game" so people slandering each other and trash talking shouldn't be a big deal because they are "just playing a game." The only problem with that is you are dealing with professional organizations that many people depend on to make a living on...

Aren't you yourself a player? Well you may not be on a serious team that you are expecting to make a living from (or maybe you are, I don't know) but we all know many players do depend on their teams, so we should not allow people to give teams a bad image just because it's not a big deal and "just a game."
Mirhi
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July 23 2011 17:45 GMT
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PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
July 23 2011 17:46 GMT
#69
Don't really understand why desrow is the one posting this. Not saying that it is desrows fault at all, but weird still. Hopefully phoenix will get another team, which can actually keep their promises, such a talented player<3
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 23 2011 17:46 GMT
#70
On July 24 2011 02:41 ccJroy wrote:
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On July 24 2011 02:40 Puph wrote:
By the looks of it, desrow didn't do anything so I think everyone dissing him is a filthy cave-troll I could be wrong


.............*crawls out from under rock* *checks 2 pages of thread*, o the fact that he posted this on reddit has been said about 100 times within the past hour?


In my defense, that fact remained virtually unstated in the first 2 pages of the thread, the only pages in which I read Still, haters b trollin'. Its JUST a rumor :D hawhaw
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DEMACIA6550 Posts
July 23 2011 17:48 GMT
#71
On July 24 2011 02:45 Mirhi wrote:
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