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wow. another team in esports screwing over its players ;(
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Oh wow. If that's true, this will hurt the scene quite a bit.
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Wonder if this team is gonna collapse, and who sponsors RGN anyways?
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Whooooooooooooooooooooooosh
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We'll while it's not confirmed before some sort of official statement this looks kinda bad for Reign especially after disbanding their old team ><
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On July 23 2011 21:15 iMp.will. wrote: Like a give a shit about some random newb.
Why are you hating?
He's a top korean gm player. He's not some "random newb"
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On July 23 2011 21:15 zaii wrote: Wonder if this team is gonna collapse, and who sponsors RGN anyways?
RGN is VT's new sc2 team
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I don't see why it would hurt the scene. Reign hasn't done anything in particular yet, its a team that is essentially VT gaming except brand spanking new, Kiwikaki and Fayth has been at the WSOP the past week and a half. None of their players have really competed in anything yet under the name save for the IPL which is prerecorded (not sure how long though).
I wonder why that conversation was leaked though.
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On July 23 2011 21:17 Zlasher wrote: I wonder why that conversation was leaked though.
It's desrow.
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On July 23 2011 21:19 rawe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 21:17 Zlasher wrote: I wonder why that conversation was leaked though. It's desrow.
I am no longer surprised.
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LOL who is reign anyway? BL Pheonix.
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On July 23 2011 21:16 Maffe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 21:15 iMp.will. wrote: Like a give a shit about some random newb. Why are you hating? He's a top korean gm player. He's not some "random newb"
Thought he was someone else.
w/e
Hatin'
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"Broken Promise"...hmmmm..let's wait for something official to come out.
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Guess it isn't all nice and rosy for Koreans moving into the foreigner scene.
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That's a stupid thing to leak.
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So much unrest in teams. I wish there was a regular team league for non korean teams. heheeh
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I was hoping to watch Phoenix perform in MLG Kinda sad now that ic he can't go..
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this wasn't leaked, this was said on his stream when playing vs desrow.
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On July 23 2011 21:29 Let it Raine wrote: this wasn't leaked, this was said on his stream when playing vs desrow.
Yeah but it wasn't like someone screenshotted the stream and posted it, it was desrow himself who posted the conversation on reddit lol.
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We're in crazy period of transition as SCII is experiencing a lot of growth. So many teams and players disbanding, reconstructing, going to and from Korea.
I doubt PhoeNix will be the only one in the next couple weeks to jump ships... trying to find some solid ground in such an volatile market...
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There are other ways of addressing such issues.
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Are we sure that this isn't some misinterpretation of broken english?
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We are assuming a lot based on that conversation. I could be interpreted as he is leaving Reign, but it could be something like Pheonix saying "Hey guys I am out for the night, have a good night" and then someone asks "You going to Anahiem?" and his response is "No, I lent my brother some money and he promised to pay me back, but didn't, so I can afford it..."
What I just wrote in quotes makes just as much sense (even more to me) that assuming that he is leaving the team. I think we need to wait for an official statement.
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He said on his stream, don't have a screenshot of it, though.
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I hope this gets explained soon. Lets see Reign's side of the story.
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where it actually says he left? Did he mention something or just based on the chat pic.
Edit: Oh posted by Desrow himself :D got it.
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reign has a really solid lineup as well, i wonder why they would do this.
kiwi/phoenix/slush > most teams out there
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1. didn't see desrow himself posted it, kind of weird but still somewhat okay lol.
2. phoenix says: "im out team" and that's assumed to mean that he's no longer on the team. (says that in the screenshot)
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desrow used to be in VT, maybe some bitter feelings towards VT management?
I'm not surprised, Reign doesn't really have a sponsor except for the managements $$$.
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If this is true, it would be very disappointing.
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This doesn't read to me like he quit the team. It reads like he's done for the night.
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On July 23 2011 21:17 Zlasher wrote: I don't see why it would hurt the scene. Reign hasn't done anything in particular yet, its a team that is essentially VT gaming except brand spanking new, Kiwikaki and Fayth has been at the WSOP the past week and a half. None of their players have really competed in anything yet under the name save for the IPL which is prerecorded (not sure how long though).
I wonder why that conversation was leaked though.
Because a team not paying their player is horrible publicity.
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Reading this it seems like he left due to Reign breaking agreements but it really is hard to understand, probably best to wait for an answer from Reign, Its a shame if something like this really did happen though, Im a huge fan of phoenix.
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On July 24 2011 01:21 Triscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 21:17 Zlasher wrote: I don't see why it would hurt the scene. Reign hasn't done anything in particular yet, its a team that is essentially VT gaming except brand spanking new, Kiwikaki and Fayth has been at the WSOP the past week and a half. None of their players have really competed in anything yet under the name save for the IPL which is prerecorded (not sure how long though).
I wonder why that conversation was leaked though. Because a team not paying their player is horrible publicity.
this is an occurrence that has happened many times in the history of e-sports
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I had heard rumors on this for a bit - not surprised
gl to phoenix and to reign hopefully fixing this issue
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I don't know what's worse (not in scale, but in morality):
RGN's "broken promise" DesRow's deliberate leak out of spite
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oh desrow...
how you never fail to surprise me with your ignorance
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I'm not surprised to see this done by desRow, guy is such an attention starved child, maybe if you focused on your play instead of drama you would be good desRow....
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I'm not surprised. Their website was scheduled to release weeks ago and they never released it.
http://teamreign.net/
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On July 24 2011 01:33 GGzerG wrote: I'm not surprised to see this done by desRow, guy is such an attention starved child, maybe if you focused on your play instead of drama you would be good desRow....
Wow someone beat me to it.
In all seriousness, im scarily thhinking that desrow did this on purpose for more publicity, first the paid advertise in TL (which im in no way dissing) but probably didnt get as much as he thought so something like this on REDDIT? really?.
With an announcement/leak like this, any publicity is good publicity. (Just basing this off the fact that he has 5x the viewers of any TL open streamer, which i see alotta names which i would personally find higher on the skill rung, as well as ICCup.TV)
Unfortunate to see this in the SC2 community, but as the community/teams grow, stuff like this is bound to happen and people trying to be first on the scene to gain viewership/publicity for it. Wonder if desrow is gonna get punishment for posting something like this on reddit before an official announcement is made.
If this is true then i feel sorry for phoenix depending on what the situation was that caused this, from the broken english it sounds like Reign didnt pay for something of his or isn't putting up what they promised.
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Reign will make a statement shortly, i assure you this is not what happened. Thanks Desrow
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good ole' desrow. Lets wait for something official guys.
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Why would you leak this? If Phoenix parted ways with Reign, there would be a news post from the team itself. Good work Desrow.
I'm interested to see what Reign has to say and what actually happened, and thanks for the post Spades.
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On July 24 2011 01:39 Spades wrote: Reign will make a statement shortly, i assure you this is not what happened. Thanks Desrow
better statement than what Scoots or Incontrol gave out following the EG/Puma translation lol
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StarCraft 2 turned into DramaCraft 2 in a matter of a week. What the...
p.s. Pro PR control Spades. Its that simple. I hope Alex "blunder" Garfield is taking notes.
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On July 24 2011 01:39 Spades wrote: Reign will make a statement shortly, i assure you this is not what happened. Thanks Desrow
Thanks for keeping us updated Spades.
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I am not sure why Desrow stil tags VT. He hasn't been associated with that team in a looooooooong time.
Wish there was clan support in SC2 so people can stop mis-representing.
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Haha Desrow.... So many stories this week. and everyone forgot about Major and MaximusBlack. Who cares... In this situation it doesn't apply as much, because of the fact that the whole idea is wrong, not just part of it... He didn't leave reign.... Can people please stop posting threads with either: A. A terrible source. In this case: Desrow and a Korean who speaks very little English and can be easily misunderstood. Every story I've seen this week, everyone has overreacted.
B. Before an Official Statement...
This is a news post if it were actually true saying the departure of phoenix.... Please, make the SC2 General a better place.
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On July 24 2011 01:50 DeepBlu2 wrote: He didn't leave reign.
How have you acquired this information?
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On July 24 2011 01:39 Spades wrote: Reign will make a statement shortly, i assure you this is not what happened. Thanks Desrow Will their statement be here or in another thread?
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On July 24 2011 01:50 DeepBlu2 wrote: Haha Desrow.... So many stories this week. and everyone forgot about Major and MaximusBlack. Who cares... In this situation it doesn't apply as much, because of the fact that the whole idea is wrong, not just part of it... He didn't leave reign.... Can people please stop posting threads with either: A. A terrible source. In this case: Desrow and a Korean who speaks very little English and can be easily misunderstood. Every story I've seen this week, everyone has overreacted.
B. Before an Official Statement...
This is a news post if it were actually true saying the departure of phoenix.... Please, make the SC2 General a better place.
Wait, what happened with maximus.
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So much e-drama these days. I'm going to have to invest in a popcorn machine if this carries on.
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Average player trying to get his 15 minutes of fame over the back of an actual pro, knew this would backfire the moment it got posted...
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On July 24 2011 01:55 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 01:50 DeepBlu2 wrote: Haha Desrow.... So many stories this week. and everyone forgot about Major and MaximusBlack. Who cares... In this situation it doesn't apply as much, because of the fact that the whole idea is wrong, not just part of it... He didn't leave reign.... Can people please stop posting threads with either: A. A terrible source. In this case: Desrow and a Korean who speaks very little English and can be easily misunderstood. Every story I've seen this week, everyone has overreacted.
B. Before an Official Statement...
This is a news post if it were actually true saying the departure of phoenix.... Please, make the SC2 General a better place. Wait, what happened with maximus.
type in "major smurf" in search
and LOL at this thread. wtf. i don't pay attention to desrow at all but he seems like a shitty person from all the consensus opinions in this thread. i was expecting someone to white knight him and be all, "FUCK YOU DESROW IS WAY BETTER THAN YOU AND DOES A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY" but there wasn't even one of those...
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Will be waiting for Reign's statement since Spades has said it will be released shortly.
No point jumping to conclusions, particularly when the other side of the story should be coming shortly.
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edit - i will wait for explanation if there is any.
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I dont know the exact details of this situation.. but from my reading on it.. it SOUNDS like Desrow was just STREAMING when phoenix said that to him.. Desrow didnt go out of his way to "out" RGN, it just happened on a stream and therefor everyone watching it saw it..
Im not a big desrow fan either guys, but this has nothing to do with him "leaking" anything.. Phoenix leaked it, if anyone, most likely knowing desrow was streaming.
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On July 24 2011 02:26 Skyze wrote: I dont know the exact details of this situation.. but from my reading on it.. it SOUNDS like Desrow was just STREAMING when phoenix said that to him.. Desrow didnt go out of his way to "out" RGN, it just happened on a stream and therefor everyone watching it saw it..
Im not a big desrow fan either guys, but this has nothing to do with him "leaking" anything.. Phoenix leaked it, if anyone, most likely knowing desrow was streaming.
He posted it on reddit himself.
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this happens alot more than people think most of these "upcoming" teams dont come through.
sides who gives a crap if this got "leaked". people stop having a baby over this stuff, it is still a game...
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On July 24 2011 02:26 Skyze wrote: I dont know the exact details of this situation.. but from my reading on it.. it SOUNDS like Desrow was just STREAMING when phoenix said that to him.. Desrow didnt go out of his way to "out" RGN, it just happened on a stream and therefor everyone watching it saw it..
Im not a big desrow fan either guys, but this has nothing to do with him "leaking" anything.. Phoenix leaked it, if anyone, most likely knowing desrow was streaming.
If you had looked at the source in the OP you would know that Desrow is the one that submitted this to reddit.
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By the looks of it, desrow didn't do anything so I think everyone dissing him is a filthy cave-troll I could be wrong
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On July 24 2011 02:40 Puph wrote:By the looks of it, desrow didn't do anything so I think everyone dissing him is a filthy cave-troll  I could be wrong
.............*crawls out from under rock* *checks 2 pages of thread*, o the fact that he posted this on reddit has been said about 100 times within the past hour?
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On July 24 2011 02:31 PhiliBiRD wrote: this happens alot more than people think most of these "upcoming" teams dont come through.
sides who gives a crap if this got "leaked". people stop having a baby over this stuff, it is still a game...
Well first of all, it has already been said in the thread that it is not true that Phoenix left by Spades... so I'm not sure why you are defending people leaking information especially when it is apparently wrong. In fact it is bad for many reasons to spread incorrect information that reflects negatively on a team. Hopefully I don't have to explain why.
Also, how can you say "it is still a game..." You may as well say a league like the NBA is "just a game" so people slandering each other and trash talking shouldn't be a big deal because they are "just playing a game." The only problem with that is you are dealing with professional organizations that many people depend on to make a living on...
Aren't you yourself a player? Well you may not be on a serious team that you are expecting to make a living from (or maybe you are, I don't know) but we all know many players do depend on their teams, so we should not allow people to give teams a bad image just because it's not a big deal and "just a game."
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Don't really understand why desrow is the one posting this. Not saying that it is desrows fault at all, but weird still. Hopefully phoenix will get another team, which can actually keep their promises, such a talented player<3
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On July 24 2011 02:41 ccJroy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 02:40 Puph wrote:By the looks of it, desrow didn't do anything so I think everyone dissing him is a filthy cave-troll  I could be wrong .............*crawls out from under rock* *checks 2 pages of thread*, o the fact that he posted this on reddit has been said about 100 times within the past hour?
In my defense, that fact remained virtually unstated in the first 2 pages of the thread, the only pages in which I read Still, haters b trollin'. Its JUST a rumor :D hawhaw
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