We're in crazy period of transition as SCII is experiencing a lot of growth.
So many teams and players disbanding, reconstructing, going to and from Korea.

I doubt PhoeNix will be the only one in the next couple weeks to jump ships... trying to find some solid ground in such an volatile market...

FireFish

Denmark228 Posts

July 23 2011 12:37 GMT

#23

Wow, this is terrible..

LowChucky

United Kingdom243 Posts

July 23 2011 12:37 GMT

#24

Ahh desrow, what a pleb

StarStruck

25339 Posts

July 23 2011 12:38 GMT

#25

There are other ways of addressing such issues.

rbkl

772 Posts

July 23 2011 12:40 GMT

#26

Are we sure that this isn't some misinterpretation of broken english?

BronzeKnee

United States5221 Posts

July 23 2011 12:43 GMT

#27

We are assuming a lot based on that conversation. I could be interpreted as he is leaving Reign, but it could be something like Pheonix saying "Hey guys I am out for the night, have a good night" and then someone asks "You going to Anahiem?" and his response is "No, I lent my brother some money and he promised to pay me back, but didn't, so I can afford it..."

What I just wrote in quotes makes just as much sense (even more to me) that assuming that he is leaving the team. I think we need to wait for an official statement.

HunterK

Argentina68 Posts

July 23 2011 12:45 GMT

#28

He said on his stream, don't have a screenshot of it, though.

MCDayC

United Kingdom14464 Posts

July 23 2011 12:47 GMT

#29

I hope this gets explained soon. Lets see Reign's side of the story.

Piski

Finland3461 Posts

July 23 2011 12:49 GMT

#30

where it actually says he left? Did he mention something or just based on the chat pic.

Edit: Oh posted by Desrow himself :D got it.

Let it Raine

Canada1245 Posts

July 23 2011 12:52 GMT

#31

reign has a really solid lineup as well, i wonder why they would do this.

kiwi/phoenix/slush > most teams out there

edit:

1. didn't see desrow himself posted it, kind of weird but still somewhat okay lol.

2. phoenix says: "im out team" and that's assumed to mean that he's no longer on the team. (says that in the screenshot)

Gattaca.usa

131 Posts

July 23 2011 13:00 GMT

#32

desrow used to be in VT, maybe some bitter feelings towards VT management?

I'm not surprised, Reign doesn't really have a sponsor except for the managements $$$.

Deshkar

Singapore1244 Posts

July 23 2011 13:03 GMT

#33

If this is true, it would be very disappointing.

sick_transit

United States195 Posts

July 23 2011 16:18 GMT

#34

This doesn't read to me like he quit the team. It reads like he's done for the night.

Triscuit

United States722 Posts

July 23 2011 16:21 GMT

#35

On July 23 2011 21:17 Zlasher wrote:
I don't see why it would hurt the scene. Reign hasn't done anything in particular yet, its a team that is essentially VT gaming except brand spanking new, Kiwikaki and Fayth has been at the WSOP the past week and a half. None of their players have really competed in anything yet under the name save for the IPL which is prerecorded (not sure how long though).

I wonder why that conversation was leaked though.

Because a team not paying their player is horrible publicity.

Kamikiri

United States1319 Posts

July 23 2011 16:26 GMT

#36

Reading this it seems like he left due to Reign breaking agreements but it really is hard to understand, probably best to wait for an answer from Reign, Its a shame if something like this really did happen though, Im a huge fan of phoenix.

udgnim

United States8024 Posts

July 23 2011 16:28 GMT

#37

On July 24 2011 01:21 Triscuit wrote:

Show nested quote +

Because a team not paying their player is horrible publicity.

this is an occurrence that has happened many times in the history of e-sports