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Rebanned_manner
Profile Joined April 2005
Greece377 Posts
May 01 2005 07:00 GMT
#1521
On May 01 2005 11:43 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
[NC]NaDa = Sea[Shield], damn i am slow to find it out
I know July's aka but cant tell sry

And it's sad that probably many gosus will change their akas.


dont worry we are going to find out soon :p
Boxer - Yellow - Garimto 4 ever ! ~ aka coulthard ;)
Gattsu
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada11 Posts
May 01 2005 22:13 GMT
#1522
On April 30 2005 10:59 insaneknights wrote:
can anyone posts leg's stats last season when he won? HIs smurf under the name gold. Thanks

Gold 8202pts 80-31-0 72.07%
uiCk
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1925 Posts
May 02 2005 00:54 GMT
#1523
close and make new thread!
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
May 02 2005 01:25 GMT
#1524
NEw season and people have to abuse already, saaaad.
http://www.pgtour.net/profile.php?a=view&id=13111
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
(AnGeLs)
Profile Joined March 2004
385 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-02 02:12:04
May 02 2005 02:08 GMT
#1525
Is there any rule on the amount of times you can play a person in a given day? nm found it...it was 10 games.
ok
-PhiL-
Profile Joined March 2005
362 Posts
May 02 2005 02:22 GMT
#1526
clearly abuse.. especially cause the games are so short
Rebanned_manner
Profile Joined April 2005
Greece377 Posts
May 02 2005 21:23 GMT
#1527
damn there are so many gosus out there T_T 90% of D are gosus,just think the A's :p
Boxer - Yellow - Garimto 4 ever ! ~ aka coulthard ;)
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
May 03 2005 01:25 GMT
#1528
Should someone say Pat about that abusing?
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Rebanned_manner
Profile Joined April 2005
Greece377 Posts
May 03 2005 01:36 GMT
#1529
Shouldnt there be a limit of 3 games like wgtour or smthing?that would be nice.
Boxer - Yellow - Garimto 4 ever ! ~ aka coulthard ;)
SainT
Profile Joined February 2005
Chile1067 Posts
May 03 2005 01:44 GMT
#1530
On May 02 2005 11:22 -PhiL- wrote:
clearly abuse.. especially cause the games are so short

That's why they have a counter abuse Team
Well i'm a lucky man...
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-04 04:47:34
May 04 2005 04:45 GMT
#1531
I've been studying the race usage in top ranks...

So many players are zergs
and people have incredibly small records vs protoss
Like #1 guy has 3 games or something total vs protoss
many others have 50-100 total games played, of which 5-10 are vs protoss. So, at least in top ranks, there are very few protoss users (about 10% games vs protoss suggests 10% at top ranks are protoss?) 10% wow. I know it's the beginning of the season, but the consistency of this data throughout top 200 is staggerring

And at lower ranks, I play a lot of toss players. In fact, 12 or 20 games that I have played so far on PGT this season are vs protoss, and I do not pick opponents. Unless this all is a giant coincidence, it looks like protoss players are pushed around and pushed down by terrans and zergs. All zergs in top ranks have amazing records vs protoss, and often not so great vs terran.

Most players in top 100 played 50% or more of their games vs zerg. Why are protoss players so bad? Is there a balance change needed?

Look at starleagues in the past while (1 toss out of 16 or something in one of them?, tournament results, TLT top 32 has 25% protoss at most, top PGT is swarming with zergs.... It's alarming, I think

Maybe it's only saying that protoss is much harder to master than other races, though once you master it, you can compete on fair terms.
-PhiL-
Profile Joined March 2005
362 Posts
May 04 2005 05:44 GMT
#1532
Its all about maps.. But the pgtour mappool is a fucking nice one.. 8]
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-04 20:33:16
May 04 2005 06:01 GMT
#1533
On May 04 2005 13:45 MPXMX wrote:
I've been studying the race usage in top ranks...

So many players are zergs
and people have incredibly small records vs protoss
Like #1 guy has 3 games or something total vs protoss
many others have 50-100 total games played, of which 5-10 are vs protoss. So, at least in top ranks, there are very few protoss users (about 10% games vs protoss suggests 10% at top ranks are protoss?) 10% wow. I know it's the beginning of the season, but the consistency of this data throughout top 200 is staggerring

And at lower ranks, I play a lot of toss players. In fact, 12 or 20 games that I have played so far on PGT this season are vs protoss, and I do not pick opponents. Unless this all is a giant coincidence, it looks like protoss players are pushed around and pushed down by terrans and zergs. All zergs in top ranks have amazing records vs protoss, and often not so great vs terran.

Most players in top 100 played 50% or more of their games vs zerg. Why are protoss players so bad? Is there a balance change needed?

Look at starleagues in the past while (1 toss out of 16 or something in one of them?, tournament results, TLT top 32 has 25% protoss at most, top PGT is swarming with zergs.... It's alarming, I think

Maybe it's only saying that protoss is much harder to master than other races, though once you master it, you can compete on fair terms.

http://www.pgtour.net/profile.php?a=view&id=78362
http://www.pgtour.net/profile.php?a=view&id=75763
http://www.pgtour.net/profile.php?a=view&id=28351

Amount of toss players in top 25

Anyways, I think you should take a long hard look at the amount of terran games as well; that number is ridiculously small as well Most vs T records are something like 10-2, 10-4 or something.

Toss just isn't that popular - -;; Anyhow

Zerg is both the ultimate ladder race and the worst, more people will try to cheese Z than T or P, but Z is also a lot stronger when you don't know your opponent; for example I play a LOT of PvZ vs travin, and I win quite a bit more than I lose (not that much but enough to be noticeable) but if I didn't know him and just played him every now and then it would at the very least be a lot harder and I'd probably lose more..

When you know the Z you can read them better and this has more of an effect in PvZ than the other matchups as you are always 'guessing' for the mid game (ie trying to feel what he's doing).

To end this post:

OGN Starleagues won:

Grrr (P)
Garimto (P)
Garimto (P)
Reach (P)
Kingdom (P)
Nal_rA (P)

Boxer (T)
Boxer (T)
Nada (T)
Nada (T)
Sync (T)
Xellos (T)

Julyzerg (Z)
Freemura (Z) If you want to count tooniverse starleague (the precursor to OGN).


Which in my opinion is another zerg weakness; the inability to develop a specific killer build - toss has so many options like this making them a great tournament race

Terran isn't without them either.

MBC is a bit less pretty on the eyes though..

Nada (T)
Nada (T)
Nada (T)
IloveOOv (T)
IloveOOv (T)
IloveOOv (T)
Boxer (T)

Nal_rA (P)

Gorush (Z)

Haha =[
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Bartar
Profile Joined December 2004
Greece83 Posts
May 04 2005 06:07 GMT
#1534
MPXMX u are so right.This "lack" of toss users kinda helped me get A 10000+ season2 since tvp is my weakest mu.After B- most of my games were vs terrans and zergs.More terrans.Actually i played more tvp vs the canadian vasmos than all the other tvp vs high-ranked koreans.Clearly korean users are mostly terran/zergs and since they are top ranked,toss users are back-ranked.
Btw,what u think about the difficulty of this season?Pros still play?I see a lot of new names.
Rebanned_manner
Profile Joined April 2005
Greece377 Posts
May 04 2005 06:20 GMT
#1535
FA thank u for ur gosu posts - we learn many things thx
Boxer - Yellow - Garimto 4 ever ! ~ aka coulthard ;)
-PhiL-
Profile Joined March 2005
362 Posts
May 04 2005 06:20 GMT
#1536
The first week the skill level is awesome. Then theres some time where its getting bit easier again and a week or so before the end of the season its pretty hard again.

Obvisously the pro gamers wont take their old smurfs..
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
May 04 2005 06:33 GMT
#1537
I don't think this season will be considerably easier than the last (maybe it will be harder). It's possible that the pros have sampled the ladder and will leave it, but considering Nada had something like 60-70% wins on it (which is probably not much better than his record in progaming practice), I don't think they will abandon this competition. I know they don't play on top of their lungs in such laddesr, but PGT does provide diverse and skilled opposition/practice. As long as pros play, everyone else good and bad will play, and besides, top koeran amateurs seem to take a liking to the ladder too.

Lower ranks will be easier for sure though. I think PGT is more known this season, that means more regular players will join the ladder and reside in lower ranks. If there are more crappy players, it's easier to climb. If it's easier to climb, that means crappy players will climb, then it's even easier to climb higher. But as long as you climb high enough I'm sure it will becoem very hard and interesting
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 04 2005 20:33 GMT
#1538
On May 04 2005 15:20 Rebanned_manner wrote:
FA thank u for ur gosu posts - we learn many things thx

Thanks :D
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Rebanned_manner
Profile Joined April 2005
Greece377 Posts
May 05 2005 21:16 GMT
#1539
PGT is down? T_T is ladder still working? T_T
Boxer - Yellow - Garimto 4 ever ! ~ aka coulthard ;)
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
May 05 2005 21:22 GMT
#1540
All that race/map balance stuff just makes me think that in a ladder, protoss are not so good, while in knockout play they stand more of a chance. Maybe more 1-off strats can be used in competition play, or maybe cos progamers prepare so much for certain opponents. I do think that the maps generally suck ass in MBC tho.
Memory lane in nice
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