I just watched the replay ret posted, I see no evidence of hack. Unless you have SS's of those comments from him, or some real proof from the replay then hack cannot be proven. From watching the replay all I saw was the fact that you did a failed 9pool, then tried lair tech and expo and ihate[hate] attacked with rines/scvs.

NeWFiE[cF]

Canada12 Posts

March 16 2005 03:23 GMT

#764

But just to be on the safe side, ill get someone to check the replay fully. Im a PGT ladder admin btw, thats y i replied to this.

Famouzze

971 Posts

March 16 2005 03:36 GMT

#765

On March 16 2005 09:55 ret wrote:
I quit PGT. It's not hackfree.

Ihate[Hate] aka madcow is hacking so blatantly it's lame, and there are others too. GG so called hack-free server. What a dissapointment.

if you think any ladder ever could be hack free you are an idiot.

Fayth[pG]

Canada1093 Posts

March 16 2005 03:44 GMT

#766

ive beaten madcow many times, i didnt see any real sign of hack, i really doubt he hacks...

edit: yeah those games were on PGT

Liquid`Ret

Netherlands4519 Posts

March 16 2005 03:47 GMT

#767

On March 16 2005 12:23 NeWFiE[cF] wrote:
But just to be on the safe side, ill get someone to check the replay fully. Im a PGT ladder admin btw, thats y i replied to this.

yeah and that's why he runs to my overlord before he sees it ( he didnt see it going that direction with my scv ) and never scouted before.

um yeah...okay...

oh please, don't be an idiot

Liquid`Ret

Netherlands4519 Posts

March 16 2005 03:47 GMT

#768

I don't care enough to make SS'es and stuff but please don't try to defend you're ladder cause I'm not a newbie and I know when people hack ok? I don't care if you know, but I KNOW he hacks and it's enough for me.

Twitt

United States733 Posts

March 16 2005 03:48 GMT

#769

I dont know anything about the situation one way or the other, but I find it strange how he's 50/50 in the D/D+ range, and 50/50 in the C/C+ range. :/

Someone who can hit the B level, which he has, should be able to mop up the D/D+ without much trouble. :/

Pat

Canada721 Posts

March 16 2005 04:03 GMT

#770

\
ret, you gonna blame me because I work my ass off to make a safe server? Well, tell me... Is there any other server safer than BNet-X?

And do Blizzard care and do something about map hack? And they get all the money for the game... I work on launcher/hacks many hours/week and you gonna blame me... =(

Blame those damn programers and help me fight damn it.

And I can assure you, visit all hacking website and test all importants hacks (Lagdefender, inhale, burito, damnation, etc etc etc...) and test them. None of them will work. I keep the launcher up to date more than you can imagine.

About this replay, I will have to take a look at it but for God's sake, don't blame me because I work my ass off more than anyone else to fight hacks :/

Liquid`Ret

Netherlands4519 Posts

March 16 2005 04:10 GMT

#771

yes you are wrong that post was in the wrong direction. But it's just a personal dissapointment, I still appreciate all the work you do.

sorry =/

Pat

Canada721 Posts

March 16 2005 04:16 GMT

#772

Ok, I am not really a pro here but hmmm, don't get mad but I just watched the replay 3 times and I think I would have done the exact same thing.

I mean, he saw OL when he scouted with the SCV and then he knew that few sec later, the OL should be there. When you terran, killing an OL in early game gives a big advantage and I would have sent my marine there too in case you didnt change the course of the OL.

Famouzze

971 Posts

March 16 2005 04:19 GMT

#773

hey pat while you're posting here i have a question, do you know when the replays from the bloody mary will be released? thx

btw i had no idea you put so much effort into keeping pgt hack proof, gj

that explains why i havent played anyone i thought hacked yet ^^

Liquid`Ret

Netherlands4519 Posts

March 16 2005 04:21 GMT

#774

ye ok I missed the scv but still u didnt see what he said in game, unfortunately i dont have screens, + FroZ told me he hacks too vs him in PGT

Pat

Canada721 Posts

March 16 2005 04:24 GMT

#775

Ya, he have many complaints against his atitude and we will take actions against him. He will be banned.

Oh and he lose most of his games.

iNsaNe-

Finland5201 Posts

March 16 2005 04:31 GMT

#776

Lamer beat Fisheye 5 times on PGT, when Fish beat him twice...

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

March 16 2005 04:40 GMT

#777

this is when penguin plug woulda been nice ~_~

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

March 16 2005 04:41 GMT

#778

its not like ret is "making this up" though i mean what does he have to gain from framing some big mouth east asshole like madcow? If he said these things and ret publicly states it im inclined to believe him..

Selector

Germany243 Posts

March 16 2005 04:50 GMT

#779

madcow is a fucking chobo

i knew that he hacks after i played him he played 2 proxy gates vs me - proxy gates before my base before scout wtf??? he even didnt win the game cause 1 gate goon > his shit lot micro

this guy suxx
ban plz
and make it hack free-_-