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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
November 01 2010 19:38 GMT
#21
Pretty hard to feel angry about it. EA/Activision have the resources to compete.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 01 2010 19:38 GMT
#22
Don't see anything wrong with other people's success. If you can earn just as much for building a bicycle as you can making a car, that just means the demand for bikes is higher. People enjoy farmville, who cares if it doesn't require any skill?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
November 01 2010 19:39 GMT
#23
More or less how I see it is you have companies like Bioware, Blizz, Rocksteady, etc that are 4 star restaurants that are producing quality meals at a fair price. Then Zynga is McDonalds producing massive amounts of extremely low quality food.

Now that I actually think about it and wrote this down its not surprising at all. The masses don't care how bad the final product is, as long as its cheep(in this case free). There is always going to be a smaller portion of the population that demands the high quality goods. I just hope the proliferation of McGames doesn't negatively effect the development of real games
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
November 01 2010 19:39 GMT
#24
On November 02 2010 04:34 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 04:25 Myles wrote:
Elitist much?

I mean seriously, they're games just as much as any other and by how large they are I'd say they're enjoyed by more people than SC2 is


mc donalds is enjoyed by more people then "insert actually good food". doesnt mean its good or makes people trashing mcdonals elitist.




@topic whatever. the gaming industry is going downhill anyways. was jsut a matter of time till crap for the idiots grows bigger then good games.


He's mad because mcdonalds is worth more than any 'good food' restaurant chain for the simple reason that it's quality, to him, makes it unworthy of being in such a position. If that isn't elitist I don't know what is.
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Necrosjef
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom530 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 19:41:58
November 01 2010 19:41 GMT
#25
What's Zynga?
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Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
November 01 2010 19:42 GMT
#26
On November 02 2010 04:23 Shiragaku wrote:
For those who are angry, you gotta admit that this is very impressive business skills.

What skills? Catering to the lowest common denominator? That's not impressive, Rupert Murdoch has been doing that for years.

Zynga is not the first to be doing this, or even the most successful. I don't know if you've heard of this, but there's this game called "World of Warcraft", it makes a little bit of money.
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
November 01 2010 19:43 GMT
#27
Monster Rancher says EA KICK ASS!
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
November 01 2010 19:45 GMT
#28
On November 02 2010 04:33 us.insurgency wrote:
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On November 02 2010 04:29 AyJay wrote:
On November 02 2010 04:25 Myles wrote:
Elitist much?

I mean seriously, they're games just as much as any other and by how large they are I'd say they're enjoyed by more people than SC2 is

It also probably means less quality games in future as developers will try to go for these types of games

Not to mention social functions such as facebook implementations in our games will be more common...

Theres going to be two types of companies.... EA and Blizzard. EA masses shitty games while Blizzard makes high quality games.


EA masses a ton of games, many are shitty but by force of numbers it's practically guaranteed that a few will be halfway decent or better. These will allow EA to persist for decades. Blizzard is meticulous and tries to release only the highest quality games at a slower rate, but eventually it will slip up at a crucial time, be unable to deliver the next thrill, and be gone forever. Most likely EA or Zynga or fucking Sid Myers will pick up the intellectual property pieces and make shitty games with them.

source: my sick twisted fancy.
Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
November 01 2010 19:46 GMT
#29
On November 02 2010 04:42 Krigwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 04:23 Shiragaku wrote:
For those who are angry, you gotta admit that this is very impressive business skills.

What skills? Catering to the lowest common denominator? That's not impressive, Rupert Murdoch has been doing that for years.

Zynga is not the first to be doing this, or even the most successful. I don't know if you've heard of this, but there's this game called "World of Warcraft", it makes a little bit of money.

WoW != farmville/mafia wars. It takes a lot more of a dedication to play it, and it is a different approach to gaming than farmville or mafia wars.

Its one of those games that people do enjoy messing around on, but thats really the only similarity.
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 01 2010 19:47 GMT
#30
This is good news for Adult Swim who just came out with Hemp Tycoon (farmville for drugs).

If you combine the market for facebook AND pot smokers... my god they will rule the world.
trevf
Profile Joined May 2010
United States237 Posts
November 01 2010 19:48 GMT
#31
I AM ANGRY WITH THIS BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS ANGYR WITH THIGNS I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

OUTERSPACE FOR EXAMPLE.
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
November 01 2010 19:48 GMT
#32
they're both crappy game companies relying on quantity over quality, which sells more. they're both also delivering a product that clearly many people demand so good for them that they're making bank off of it.

the game industry's passion died a long time ago as far as i'm concerned. as long as someone keeps making quality games in some capacity, i don't care who is making the most off of the dull ones that everyone consumes mindlessly every few months.
mgj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
191 Posts
November 01 2010 19:48 GMT
#33
On November 02 2010 04:15 AyJay wrote:
Old news but haven't seen topic for this...

I made a topic. It even had a better source for the news (slashdot). It got closed.

I guess adding a meaningless poll to your thread is putting in enough effort.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
November 01 2010 19:49 GMT
#34
On November 02 2010 04:42 Krigwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 04:23 Shiragaku wrote:
For those who are angry, you gotta admit that this is very impressive business skills.

What skills? Catering to the lowest common denominator? That's not impressive, Rupert Murdoch has been doing that for years.

Zynga is not the first to be doing this, or even the most successful. I don't know if you've heard of this, but there's this game called "World of Warcraft", it makes a little bit of money.


The WoW hate has got to stop tbh. It's a pretty decent game which in its original form wasn't catering very much for casuals. It has later turned out that way, but give the game some credit for what it was - the developers who were on-board back then deserves it.

And sadly, the western society has turned out to be more and more about catering to the lowest common denominator - just take a look at tv-shows like "dancing with the stars", "X-factor" "America's got talent" or really any reality show there is out there.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
November 01 2010 19:55 GMT
#35
On November 02 2010 04:39 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 04:34 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On November 02 2010 04:25 Myles wrote:
Elitist much?

I mean seriously, they're games just as much as any other and by how large they are I'd say they're enjoyed by more people than SC2 is


mc donalds is enjoyed by more people then "insert actually good food". doesnt mean its good or makes people trashing mcdonals elitist.




@topic whatever. the gaming industry is going downhill anyways. was jsut a matter of time till crap for the idiots grows bigger then good games.


He's mad because mcdonalds is worth more than any 'good food' restaurant chain for the simple reason that it's quality, to him, makes it unworthy of being in such a position. If that isn't elitist I don't know what is.



so not agreeing/liking something the masses enjoy is now elitist. good to know. guess you really love paris hilton and justin bieber then, cause not agreeing with the random 15 year old girl that they are awesome makes you elitist!

dude get real.if you cant have a own opinion anymore without beeing called elitist something is wrong.




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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
November 01 2010 19:58 GMT
#36
On November 02 2010 04:55 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 04:39 Myles wrote:
On November 02 2010 04:34 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On November 02 2010 04:25 Myles wrote:
Elitist much?

I mean seriously, they're games just as much as any other and by how large they are I'd say they're enjoyed by more people than SC2 is


mc donalds is enjoyed by more people then "insert actually good food". doesnt mean its good or makes people trashing mcdonals elitist.




@topic whatever. the gaming industry is going downhill anyways. was jsut a matter of time till crap for the idiots grows bigger then good games.


He's mad because mcdonalds is worth more than any 'good food' restaurant chain for the simple reason that it's quality, to him, makes it unworthy of being in such a position. If that isn't elitist I don't know what is.



so not agreeing/liking something the masses enjoy is now elitist. good to know. guess you really love paris hilton and justin bieber then, cause not agreeing with the random 15 year old girl that they are awesome makes you elitist!

dude get real.if you cant have a own opinion anymore without beeing called elitist something is wrong.






I never said that he couldn't dislike the games or think other games are better. But being mad because it's successful, imo, is elitist.
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Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 20:09:19
November 01 2010 20:02 GMT
#37
On November 02 2010 04:55 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 04:39 Myles wrote:
On November 02 2010 04:34 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On November 02 2010 04:25 Myles wrote:
Elitist much?

I mean seriously, they're games just as much as any other and by how large they are I'd say they're enjoyed by more people than SC2 is


mc donalds is enjoyed by more people then "insert actually good food". doesnt mean its good or makes people trashing mcdonals elitist.




@topic whatever. the gaming industry is going downhill anyways. was jsut a matter of time till crap for the idiots grows bigger then good games.


He's mad because mcdonalds is worth more than any 'good food' restaurant chain for the simple reason that it's quality, to him, makes it unworthy of being in such a position. If that isn't elitist I don't know what is.



so not agreeing/liking something the masses enjoy is now elitist. good to know. guess you really love paris hilton and justin bieber then, cause not agreeing with the random 15 year old girl that they are awesome makes you elitist!

dude get real.if you cant have a own opinion anymore without beeing called elitist something is wrong.

Its not about having your own opinion, or not liking something, its the way you approach it.
Saying, "McDonals is popular but I dont like their food because I believe it to be low quality" is a different satement than "McDonalds doesn't deserve to be popular because their food is cheap, low quality and appeals to the idiot masses".

One is voicing your own opinion. The other is voicing your own opinion while stepping on and demeaning others who you see as lesser than yourself.

Like for example calling people who enjoy those casual games "idiots".

It is about being able to accept that people have different tastes, not freaking out because not everyone in the world is in a love affair with Starcraft, or more standard games.
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 01 2010 20:02 GMT
#38
What the hell is Zynga?

Is it that Facebook thing?
But nobody would play such crap, how can it be worth anything?

confused
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Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 20:04:58
November 01 2010 20:02 GMT
#39
While it's not surprising, I can't really commend Zynga for their shady and often unethical business practices. Hopefully they'll get what's due to them eventually. No sympathy for EA, however, as they've ruined pretty much every other good developer they ever set their hands on.
What this
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 20:39:34
November 01 2010 20:06 GMT
#40
On November 02 2010 05:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
What the hell is Zynga?

Is it that Facebook thing?
But nobody would play such crap, how can it be worth anything?

confused

You plant plants. If you want to buy a cow for your farm you need to pay 1$. Thus Massive money are paid daily basis so people could buy that crap.
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