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United States5162 Posts
On August 13 2010 02:53 Therickz wrote:
They were obviously doing their freaking job -.-
That fuking deaf dude went freaking mental, how would you handle that?
this is retarded.
What?! He was choking the shit out of him for NO REASON. Instead of acting rationally and just confronting the guy and asking him for receipts, he just tackles him and then chokes him until he's turning purple while the whole time he's tapping the security guard(aka, the universal I give up sign). The whole thing is a ridiculous misuse of what little power they had.
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On August 13 2010 02:53 Therickz wrote:
They were obviously doing their freaking job -.-
That fuking deaf dude went freaking mental, how would you handle that?
this is retarded.
We didn't get to see what happened before the african guy started choking the dead guy but I think it's safe to assume that they used excessive force in detaining them. Unless he's running away or actually attacking someone there's really no need to put your hands on him.
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On August 13 2010 02:56 micronesia wrote:
The fact that the guys were deaf is a tricky issue. They didn't hear the store alarm but... what would you think if you were security and people were ignoring you when you told them to come back in after the alarm went off?
While I agree the way in which events transpired needs to be carefully evaluated... like usual everyone is too quick to place blame and call for the heads of the security guards rather than investigate further exactly what happened and why.
only scenario i can think of is the guard following them, and giving proper authorities on their whereabouts.
this went out of hand, security guards jobs are meant to keep the store secure.
hence the job title.
not play save-the-fucking-day and attack people, and almost kill them
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On August 13 2010 02:56 micronesia wrote:
The fact that the guys were deaf is a tricky issue. They didn't hear the store alarm but... what would you think if you were security and people were ignoring you when you told them to come back in after the alarm went off?
While I agree the way in which events transpired needs to be carefully evaluated... like usual everyone is too quick to place blame and call for the heads of the security guards rather than investigate further exactly what happened and why.
Good point, but it didn't really look like the deaf guys was running away or something.
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This is messed up, something seriously needs to be done with the security system there to avoid messy and unnecessary issues like this. I highly doubt those guards were "trained" to tackle anyone who they think is shop lifting.
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On August 13 2010 02:53 Therickz wrote:
They were obviously doing their freaking job -.-
That fuking deaf dude went freaking mental, how would you handle that?
this is retarded.
did you see the deaf dude going mental? all I saw was him constantly tapping the guy's shoulder to let him BREATHE, and the guy constantly choking him for no reason. what, are you the guard or something? And of course the deaf guy would be kinda freaked, he's getting choked for no apparent reason, he's freaking deaf dammit.
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On August 13 2010 02:56 micronesia wrote:
The fact that the guys were deaf is a tricky issue. They didn't hear the store alarm but... what would you think if you were security and people were ignoring you when you told them to come back in after the alarm went off?
While I agree the way in which events transpired needs to be carefully evaluated... like usual everyone is too quick to place blame and call for the heads of the security guards rather than investigate further exactly what happened and why.
But it is not the place of a security guard to assault someone. If the situation is that out of hand then they should of just called the cops and let them deal with it.
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Since when did "that huge African dude" become the excepted vernacular?
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On August 13 2010 02:56 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 02:53 Therickz wrote:
They were obviously doing their freaking job -.-
That fuking deaf dude went freaking mental, how would you handle that?
this is retarded. What?! He was choking the shit out of him for NO REASON. Instead of acting rationally and just confronting the guy and asking him for receipts, he just tackles him and then chokes him until he's turning purple while the whole time he's tapping the security guard(aka, the universal I give up sign). The whole thing is a ridiculous misuse of what little power they had.
For no reason? The guard were obviously retraining the person, the deaf guys are the ones going nuts, dont jump the gun and say
OMFG FUCK THE POLICE THEY HURT INNOCENT PEOPLE ALL THE TIME DERP.
they are doing their job, if you were a security guard and the alarm went off and the person that set it off did not react and didnt listen to commands, its EASY to think that they have stole something.
And STEALING is ILLEGAL, you can go to jail for that shit.
As for : why the crowd DIDNT intervene, what if the guard were restraining a murderer, or maybe a rapist and a crowd gathered, and if you were to intervene that situation, you are helping a killer/rapist.
On August 13 2010 03:00 Wings wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 02:53 Therickz wrote:
They were obviously doing their freaking job -.-
That fuking deaf dude went freaking mental, how would you handle that?
this is retarded. did you see the deaf dude going mental? all I saw was him constantly tapping the guy's shoulder to let him BREATHE, and the guy constantly choking him for no reason. what, are you the guard or something? And of course the deaf guy would be kinda freaked, he's getting choked for no apparent reason, he's freaking deaf dammit.
Did you not notice that freaking monkey jumping around his friend?
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im pretty sure if i was there i would have told that guy to stop choking him or i would go down there and pull him the fuck off of him immediately. he could have killed the guy
that's pretty much the only issue i have with the video
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On August 13 2010 03:05 Therickz wrote:
Did you not notice that freaking monkey jumping around his friend?
if your friend is getting choked to death and is turning purple you are just going to stand there? great friend you are, dumbass
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On August 13 2010 02:56 micronesia wrote:
The fact that the guys were deaf is a tricky issue. They didn't hear the store alarm but... what would you think if you were security and people were ignoring you when you told them to come back in after the alarm went off?
While I agree the way in which events transpired needs to be carefully evaluated... like usual everyone is too quick to place blame and call for the heads of the security guards rather than investigate further exactly what happened and why.
You have to understand that probably the deaf guys were not running away like crazy, they are deaf, didnt hear the alarm and probably were walking out calmly. The security guards acted like they were terrorists trying to escape....
Thats just my assumption since we cannot judge what happened before the video.
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I usually side with authority in shit like this... but you don't choke out a subdued suspect. Fuck. That is dumb.
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United States24801 Posts
On August 13 2010 02:58 Revolt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 02:56 micronesia wrote:
The fact that the guys were deaf is a tricky issue. They didn't hear the store alarm but... what would you think if you were security and people were ignoring you when you told them to come back in after the alarm went off?
While I agree the way in which events transpired needs to be carefully evaluated... like usual everyone is too quick to place blame and call for the heads of the security guards rather than investigate further exactly what happened and why. only scenario i can think of is the guard following them, and giving proper authorities on their whereabouts. this went out of hand, security guards jobs are meant to keep the store secure. hence the job title. not play save-the-fucking-day and attack people, and almost kill them
I know security guards often restrain shoplifters until cops arrive... what they are and are not allowed to do in order to restrain shoplifters I do not know and I think we need to evaluate carefully before accusing these security guards of doing something completely different than their job description or legal right.
On August 13 2010 03:01 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 02:56 micronesia wrote:
The fact that the guys were deaf is a tricky issue. They didn't hear the store alarm but... what would you think if you were security and people were ignoring you when you told them to come back in after the alarm went off?
While I agree the way in which events transpired needs to be carefully evaluated... like usual everyone is too quick to place blame and call for the heads of the security guards rather than investigate further exactly what happened and why. But it is not the place of a security guard to assault someone. If the situation is that out of hand then they should of just called the cops and let them deal with it.
Read above.
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To those of you even remotely defending these security guards, let me give you a big FUCK YOU! These poor guys didn't do anything wrong. I don't give a shit if they actually stole something, and they weren't deaf, you still don't choke someone out to detain them. That is assault, and that is not part of any security officer's job. The guys friend was holding the receipt and trying to show them that everything was paid for, and yet they still continued to choke him out.
Therickz, what are you 12? Jesus titty fucking Christ people like you make me sick. You are an ignorant prick calling a distressed deaf man whos friend is in extreme danger for no reason a "dancing monkey." WTF can some1 please ban this kid from TL.
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On August 13 2010 03:06 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 03:05 Therickz wrote:
Did you not notice that freaking monkey jumping around his friend? if your friend is getting choked to death and is turning purple you are just going to stand there? great friend you are, dumbass
exactly my thoughts.
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On August 13 2010 03:06 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 03:05 Therickz wrote:
Did you not notice that freaking monkey jumping around his friend? if your friend is getting choked to death and is turning purple you are just going to stand there? great friend you are, dumbass
The monkey wouldnt have needed to react that insane, IM pretty sure if they would have reacted in a calmer way NOTHING of this choking bullshit would have happend
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On August 13 2010 03:07 Hawk wrote:
I usually side with authority in shit like this... but you don't choke out a subdued suspect. Fuck. That is dumb.
Agreed. The guard on the floor had plenty of opportunities to detain the target without a submission. The problem is, he might not have had the proper training to realize this and to actually restrain someone without a choke. Bottom line: huge security guard hired for being huge.
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United States5162 Posts
On August 13 2010 03:05 Therickz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 02:56 Myles wrote:On August 13 2010 02:53 Therickz wrote:
They were obviously doing their freaking job -.-
That fuking deaf dude went freaking mental, how would you handle that?
this is retarded. What?! He was choking the shit out of him for NO REASON. Instead of acting rationally and just confronting the guy and asking him for receipts, he just tackles him and then chokes him until he's turning purple while the whole time he's tapping the security guard(aka, the universal I give up sign). The whole thing is a ridiculous misuse of what little power they had. For no reason? The guard were obviously retraining the person, the deaf guys are the ones going nuts, dont jump the gun and say OMFG FUCK THE POLICE THEY HURT INNOCENT PEOPLE ALL THE TIME DERP. they are doing their job, if you were a security guard and the alarm went off and the person that set it off did not react and didnt listen to commands, its EASY to think that they have stole something. And STEALING is ILLEGAL, you can go to jail for that shit. As for : why the crowd DIDNT intervene, what if the guard were restraining a murderer, or maybe a rapist and a crowd gathered, and if you were to intervene that situation, you are helping a killer/rapist. Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 03:00 Wings wrote:On August 13 2010 02:53 Therickz wrote:
They were obviously doing their freaking job -.-
That fuking deaf dude went freaking mental, how would you handle that?
this is retarded. did you see the deaf dude going mental? all I saw was him constantly tapping the guy's shoulder to let him BREATHE, and the guy constantly choking him for no reason. what, are you the guard or something? And of course the deaf guy would be kinda freaked, he's getting choked for no apparent reason, he's freaking deaf dammit. Did you not notice that freaking monkey jumping around his friend?
Choking is completely unnecessary to restrain someone. Also, you don't shout at someone from inside the store and give them commands. You walk(or run) up to them and confront them. Security guards are not police and they don't have the authority police do.
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1:09 nice buttcrack lolol
seriously though this is messed up
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