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BackHo[BLACK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
80 Posts
July 23 2009 10:18 GMT
#221
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Poll: BERSERKER
(Vote): Bisu
(Vote): Iris
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
July 23 2009 10:19 GMT
#222
On July 23 2009 19:16 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 19:14 Itachii wrote:
On July 23 2009 19:12 keV. wrote:
On July 23 2009 18:53 Itachii wrote:
On July 23 2009 18:52 konadora wrote:
On July 23 2009 18:49 jello24 wrote:
wow good job relying on cheese canata... way to show off your endless skill.

Cheese is part of Starcraft.

let the kids whine <3


So only Oz fans are kids?

again your reading comprehension fails, where did you see me mentioning Oz


Thats my point, you didn't specify anyone, you said anyone who thinks that cheese is cheese are kids.

It doesn't really matter, this has nothing to do with starcraft. I would just pick a different insult, perhaps one not riddled with irony.

I'll even buy you your first legal alcoholic beverage junior.


I'm pretty sure he specified that people who BM after getting rushed are kids.

And calling someone a kid is insulting their maturity and intelligence not their age.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
July 23 2009 10:19 GMT
#223
Calm is to be respected. He has just shown a tiny bit of what he is capable of.
Flash returns...
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 23 2009 10:19 GMT
#224
On July 23 2009 19:16 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 19:14 Itachii wrote:
On July 23 2009 19:12 keV. wrote:
On July 23 2009 18:53 Itachii wrote:
On July 23 2009 18:52 konadora wrote:
On July 23 2009 18:49 jello24 wrote:
wow good job relying on cheese canata... way to show off your endless skill.

Cheese is part of Starcraft.

let the kids whine <3


So only Oz fans are kids?

again your reading comprehension fails, where did you see me mentioning Oz


Thats my point, you didn't specify anyone, you said anyone who thinks that cheese is cheese are kids.

It doesn't really matter, this has nothing to do with starcraft. I would just pick a different insult, perhaps one not riddled with irony.

i didnt say that at all, read my post again
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
July 23 2009 10:19 GMT
#225

its not that big surprise, i heard the top players are most afraid of Calm, not Effort


fine, it's a small surprise.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 23 2009 10:19 GMT
#226
On July 23 2009 19:16 dasanivan wrote:
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On July 23 2009 19:03 samachking wrote:
On July 23 2009 19:00 dasanivan wrote:
On July 23 2009 18:58 samachking wrote:
On July 23 2009 18:57 Black Gun wrote:
On July 23 2009 18:49 jello24 wrote:
wow good job relying on cheese canata... way to show off your endless skill.

id love to see U microing a vulture with no hp left to 13+ kills....


umm, I could do that when I was D-, it only takes 1 hour of practice on a micro map to learn lol.



i suspect you were d- because you focused on microing the vulture instead of macroing at the same time.


Actually, I just learnt it because I thought it was gosu and cool at the time, its pretty simple to do and the micro map is fun for a while. No ad homenim attacks here please, its not too hard to micro a vult, multitasking however is difficult, but there wasnt much for canata to multitask at that point in the game.


dude, it's a forum where people call each other profanities in every live game thread, relax. we're all friends, right?

if not, then i apologize.

also, calm > effort is a big surprise. i'm afraid we may have a new legend of the fall with all the zerg out there being amazing.


Sure np. Why is ZvZ losses a surprise. The way it works is JD tier, A-Class tier, and the rest of the mediocre zergs imo. Its a coin toss up if 2 A-class Zs clash really, and both Calm and Effort are A-class.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
July 23 2009 10:19 GMT
#227
On July 23 2009 19:16 Smix wrote:
MSL desk:

Canata's first seed in the MSL!
Suffered by not being able to go to the higher levels in the past~ Ro16/Ro32 over and over
Beat Savior then Piano to reach seed.
That dream! Finally achieved!
6 years since he's debuted, and first time getting a seed!

In the past, in the MSL zergs haven't done well, then in the last MSL zerg won - now zerg are doing awesome! How are the other races doing?
In the beginning, there were 16 terran - now there are only 2 left - iris and canata. Who would've guessed?
One protoss!
However, this doesn't mean you should ignore these terran and protoss~


Thanks Smix <3
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GrimAngel
Profile Joined September 2008
United States416 Posts
July 23 2009 10:19 GMT
#228
ahh with jaedong and effort losing i dont think i can stomach watching iris and kwanro getting owned. im kinda slightly happy for canata tho
Wan step ahead!
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
July 23 2009 10:20 GMT
#229
Bisu - last 10 games are 8-2
Losses to go.go and zero
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 23 2009 10:20 GMT
#230
cheesy cheese is cheesy

0/2 lb so far
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
July 23 2009 10:20 GMT
#231
iris last 10 games 5-5
losses to firebathero, flash, leta, best, and go.go
wins against nada, upmagic, hwasin, hwasin, go.go

happy birthday Jonvvv!
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
blomsterjohn
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway474 Posts
July 23 2009 10:21 GMT
#232
Yeah thanks Smix, seriously someone needs to invent language chips or somerhing

FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 23 2009 10:21 GMT
#233
On July 23 2009 19:20 Black Gun wrote:
cheesy cheese is cheesy

0/2 lb so far


I'm pretty sure the lb is for the whole bo5 series.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
July 23 2009 10:21 GMT
#234
On July 23 2009 19:20 Smix wrote:
iris last 10 games 5-5
losses to firebathero, flash, leta, best, and go.go
wins against nada, upmagic, hwasin, hwasin, go.go

happy birthday Jonvvv!

If Bisu wins, i will be even more happier
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 23 2009 10:22 GMT
#235
On July 23 2009 19:06 Itachii wrote:
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On July 23 2009 19:02 Shikyo wrote:
8rax mech is quite standard and not really a cheese. It's really safe and even if it fails doesn't leave the T far behind at all. Hence you shouldn't call it cheese. And it's not that difficult to defend against, JD just screwed up really bad.

cheese or not, its fucking part of the game.people whing about it are probably the ones spamming:bm cheese noob, when they lose to it on iccup.kids need to learn that other builds, non standard also exist in SC and are viable.
Theres even post on start forum of someone trying to define whats cheese and whats not.... comon, wth is that.

I know, I wonder why you're telling this to me, swearing as well? If you didn't get it, I was agreeing with you.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 23 2009 10:22 GMT
#236
On July 23 2009 19:21 FirstBorn wrote:
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On July 23 2009 19:20 Black Gun wrote:
cheesy cheese is cheesy

0/2 lb so far


I'm pretty sure the lb is for the whole bo5 series.
it even says so
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DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
July 23 2009 10:23 GMT
#237
On July 23 2009 19:17 InDaHouse wrote:
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On July 23 2009 19:06 DM20 wrote:
On July 23 2009 19:02 InDaHouse wrote:

When Jaedong learns how to play against Canatas and fantaSy gay strategies he is just superior in all aspects. T1 terrans rely on early harass to build momentum and advantage nothing else.


Thats like saying that protoss FE is gay because it relies on cannons to help block rushes to secure an early economic advantage.

Its not called a strategy game for nothing.


My point was you see T1 terrans use some kind of combine mech harass into bio or just mech. If you seen FantaSy games and last OSL you know what i'm talking about. Terrans outcome relies heavy on how much damage that slow vulture can do.



And 12 hatch relies heavily on not getting rushed, every build has a risk/reward factor.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 23 2009 10:23 GMT
#238
I'm surprised there aren't more Jaedong fans saying stuff like "Who cares, he always loses game 1" or something.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 23 2009 10:23 GMT
#239
Game 3 Starting!!!

Bisu (Blue Protoss at 10) vs. Iris (Teal Terran at 1) on Byzantium 3
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 23 2009 10:23 GMT
#240
After this game, half the PvTs on Byzantium will have Bisu in them. Heh, he's 2-0 so far so I don't see this working too well for the berserker.
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