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[MSL] Avalon MSL Ro16 Day 3

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Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 11:59:20
July 14 2009 08:04 GMT
#1
[image loading]

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Avalon MSL Round of 16 Group E -H
18:30 KST MBCGame Channel


Group E:
(T)PianO <Outsider> (T)Canata
(T)PianO <Heartbreak Ridge> (T)Canata

Group F:
(T)Flash <Carthage 3> (Z)Kwanro
(T)Flash <Outsider> (Z)Kwanro

Group G:
(Z)Calm <Heartbreak Ridge> (T)fOrGG
(Z)Calm <Carthage 3> (T)fOrGG

Group H
(P)Pure <Carthage 3> (Z)ZerO
(P)Pure <Byzantium 3> (Z)ZerO



+ Show Spoiler [ Current Standings] +
Group E: (T)PianO <Byzantium 3> (T)Canata
Group F: (T)Flash <Byzantium 3> (Z)Kwanro
Group G: (Z)Calm <Outsider> (T)fOrGG
Group H: (P)Pure <Heartbreak Ridge> (Z)ZerO

+ Show Spoiler [ Results] +
Group E:
(T)PianO <Outsider> (T)Canata
(T)PianO <Heartbreak Ridge> (T)Canata
Canata advances to Ro8 of Avalon MSL
Group F:
(T)Flash <Carthage 3> (Z)Kwanro
(T)Flash <Outsider> (Z)Kwanro
Kwanro to the round of eight
Group G:
(Z)Calm<Heartbreak Ridge> (T)fOrGG
(Z)Calm <Carthage 3> (T)fOrGG
Calm advance to Ro8
Group H
(P)Pure <Carthage 3> (Z)ZerO
(P)Pure <Byzantium 3> (Z)ZerO
Zero to the round of 8 again!


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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 08:05:34
July 14 2009 08:05 GMT
#2
CHEESE FLASH! CHEESE TILL THE END OF TIME!
dats racist
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 14 2009 08:08 GMT
#3
[image loading]

Poll: Who will watch this?
(Vote): Screw this, e-Stars ftw
(Vote): I want to see Flash win
(Vote): I will watch both!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 08:11:08
July 14 2009 08:10 GMT
#4
No savior no go

Who cares about Flash anyway :p
POGGERS
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 08:11:44
July 14 2009 08:11 GMT
#5
I voted for Flash Solinren but to be honest I think I'm going to watch YELLOW OWN THE SHIT OUT OF HERITAGE FUCK YEAHHHHHH

Edit: Kona is gay.
dats racist
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 14 2009 08:11 GMT
#6
Hope for Canata, Flash, Calm and ZerO
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 08:20:01
July 14 2009 08:18 GMT
#7
hoping for canata, flash, forgg and pure.

canata will make it. 2-0
flash wont make it. 0-2
forgg wont make it. 1-2
pure can make it, but i think i wont T_T 1-2
http://twitter.com/jhNz
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
July 14 2009 08:31 GMT
#8
hopefully canata goes back to his old TvT self and turtles for hours, giving me enough time to watch NaDa and Savior dominate their games... then on to flash's games and end the night with Boxer...

perfect!!
just lurking around...
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 14 2009 08:37 GMT
#9
Piano and Zero got this.
Zero fighting.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
July 14 2009 08:38 GMT
#10
Flash... PLEASE win this...
Graphics
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
July 14 2009 08:53 GMT
#11
Wouldn't be surprised if all groups went 2-0... T__T
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 14 2009 08:58 GMT
#12
On July 14 2009 17:53 BanZu wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if all groups went 2-0... T__T


same here. i just hope pure can turn his match around. hurts to say, but i doubt he will be able to T_T
http://twitter.com/jhNz
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
July 14 2009 09:20 GMT
#13
Every Carthage 3 ZvT so far has involved a CJ Zerg (Effort x2, Kwanro, Savior).

Flash ... come on.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
July 14 2009 09:28 GMT
#14
Flashhhhhh all the way
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
July 14 2009 09:30 GMT
#15
flash fighting !

sucks that that estars thing is starting at the same time =[
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
July 14 2009 09:32 GMT
#16
www.livestream.com/tlcube will be streaming this (with chinese commentary)
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 09:38:22
July 14 2009 09:38 GMT
#17
there's an unofficial stream in potplayer, it works well since it only has around 100 people
SNARF HWAITING
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
July 14 2009 09:41 GMT
#18
go canataaaaaaa
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 09:46 GMT
#19
Really looking bad for piano . Canata is at his nat with tanks and wraiths.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 09:47 GMT
#20
GG from Piano with seiged tanks at his enterance.

Canata has been playing REALLY well lately despite me constantly rooting against him :D.
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
July 14 2009 09:47 GMT
#21
CANATAAAAAAAAA!
(only saw the winner screen)
SNARF HWAITING
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
July 14 2009 09:48 GMT
#22
BEASTIN IT! canata Ro8 :D
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
July 14 2009 09:48 GMT
#23
onesided. haha
amoxicilline
Profile Joined August 2005
France1124 Posts
July 14 2009 09:49 GMT
#24
what a rape
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 14 2009 09:51 GMT
#25
seems like the piano needs a new tuning hahaha -.-
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
July 14 2009 09:56 GMT
#26
Canata is showing great results lately. His TvZ and TvT is really good at the moment
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
Qbyx
Profile Joined November 2007
Romania210 Posts
July 14 2009 09:58 GMT
#27
where the hell are u watchi guys? non of the above stream are workin' for me ...
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 09:59 GMT
#28
Flash omg... win.. please
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 14 2009 10:00 GMT
#29
Man, Piano's TvT is usually so good, I don't know what happened in this series.
Zero fighting.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:00 GMT
#30
RUSH TO WIN FLASH ITS ON YOUR FUCKING CHEERFUL OMG
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 14 2009 10:01 GMT
#31
i really doubt that flash will turn this series around. his recent tvz performances were not on the level he needs to play here.
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
July 14 2009 10:02 GMT
#32
On July 14 2009 19:00 Jaksiel wrote:
Man, Piano's TvT is usually so good, I don't know what happened in this series.

He ran into Canata!
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
July 14 2009 10:02 GMT
#33
http://www.livestream.com/solinren
he streams it. Currently everyone else watches e-stars
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
July 14 2009 10:02 GMT
#34
take my stream link down, cant get it to work wit hthe streams taht load
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:04 GMT
#35
Did flash 14cc, or was it a quicker cc
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:05 GMT
#36
omfg 14cc
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:05 GMT
#37
oh my, lings are gonna get in, flash positioning fail
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 10:05 GMT
#38
Kwanro is going for a ling break! I think he is incapable of playing (or at least winning) a game over 15min.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:05 GMT
#39
gg
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 14 2009 10:05 GMT
#40
Well done Canata, I'm watching heritage league now but I'm hoping all of my favs will make it :D
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:06 GMT
#41
FLASH
WOW
i thought you were dead for sure, now defend mutas and win
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 10:06 GMT
#42
A lot of lings get in but Flashs micro wipes them out. Turrets going up and mutas in the eggs comming soon.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:08 GMT
#43
omffffffffffg my heart is pounding
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:09 GMT
#44
Damm kwanros micro is good
flash barely holding
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 14 2009 10:10 GMT
#45
I'm guessing flash is gonna lose?
Poop. Oh well
dats racist
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 14 2009 10:11 GMT
#46
On July 14 2009 19:10 MrHoon wrote:
I'm guessing flash is gonna lose?
Poop. Oh well

Flash is going to win, Kwanro only killed turrets and at flash's natural and didnt do much damage to economy and he has no defense for Flash's mm push
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:11 GMT
#47
FLASH
kwanro screwes up and loses like 9 muta in one battle, his third expo isnt up and flash is macroing like a beast
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 10:11 GMT
#48
Flash pushing out with a lot of MnM. 2 Base muta so imba .
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
July 14 2009 10:12 GMT
#49
flash doing great
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#50
yesssssssssssssss. Flash win pleEASE
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#51
come on Flash, dont lose 0-2 even though I want Kwanro to advance
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#52
Kwanro is done. Please bio more Flash. Defend against rushes and you win
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
July 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#53
flawless drop!
SNARF HWAITING
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#54
k, Flash has this
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#55
SENSE OF STAR HOLD LURKS FAIL. (unless flash saw them burrow)
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#56
Flash wins, game 3
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:16:19
July 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#57
Flash has this game. Drop in main to kill drones and now has a massive army pushing out with vessels tanks and mnm.

Kwanro DOES have swarm tho.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#58
oh man. Flash might need vessels soon..
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:17 GMT
#59
DROP RAPES
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:20:35
July 14 2009 10:19 GMT
#60
Kwanro is keeping flash at bay with swarms and plagues but Flash is taking 2 more bases and will soon overrun him I feel.

Also Kwanro loses his 3rd and just has hit nat now. No way he can sustain an army.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:20:14
July 14 2009 10:20 GMT
#61
LOL fighting with drones under swarm

just GG kwanro
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 10:21 GMT
#62
GG from kwanro. GAME 3 GO FLASH :D.
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
July 14 2009 10:21 GMT
#63
well done flash!! man even if his mech play reeks to high heaven, his bio is a thing of beauty...
just lurking around...
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
July 14 2009 10:21 GMT
#64
Flash wins!
Please go bio again
SNARF HWAITING
viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
July 14 2009 10:21 GMT
#65
Flash isnt putting up with any more zerg crap.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
July 14 2009 10:22 GMT
#66
Flash wins, showing that bio play is still viable.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
July 14 2009 10:22 GMT
#67
On July 14 2009 19:21 Murdoink wrote:
Flash wins!
Please go bio again


Zerg is totally unprepared for this new strategy.
Pit667
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland130 Posts
July 14 2009 10:22 GMT
#68
i fall in love :D:D::D flash gogogogo
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
July 14 2009 10:23 GMT
#69
Thanks god Flash. How did the first game end, I missed.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
July 14 2009 10:23 GMT
#70
Any livestream link please?
Flash returns...
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 14 2009 10:24 GMT
#71
No force in universe can stop angry Flash
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:24 GMT
#72
Man on a side note.. 2 hatch muta is seriously almost unstoppable. It's ridiculous in the hands of a good zerg. It takes perfect play from the terran to survive and even then the game isn't won.

AND HELL YES FLASH HELL YES WIN GAME 3 (Im bummed my stream is behind because I can't keep refreshing the thread to see wsup
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51419 Posts
July 14 2009 10:24 GMT
#73
On July 14 2009 19:22 T.O.P. wrote:
Flash wins, showing that bio play is still viable.


flash please go back to your ROOTS
Commentator
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 14 2009 10:25 GMT
#74
On July 14 2009 19:23 radadaundandan wrote:
Any livestream link please?

Check first page?
www.livestream.com/solinren
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:25:22
July 14 2009 10:25 GMT
#75
On July 14 2009 19:23 radadaundandan wrote:
Any livestream link please?

dude, in the OP

bio play... please do more!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:25 GMT
#76
WHO SAYS 14CC ISNT THE BEST STRAT EVER FLASH!?!? YOU WON THIS GAME, FUCK THE HATERSSS
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
July 14 2009 10:25 GMT
#77
On July 14 2009 19:23 radadaundandan wrote:
Any livestream link please?

look page 2. you shouldnt ask unless you checked first
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
July 14 2009 10:26 GMT
#78
Good ol bio Flash. He's been wining cuz of that .
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
July 14 2009 10:27 GMT
#79
On July 14 2009 19:25 ThePhan2m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 19:23 radadaundandan wrote:
Any livestream link please?

look page 2. you shouldnt ask unless you checked first

Sups i checked and it streams ESTARS. Sorry no offence anyway.
Flash returns...
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:30 GMT
#80
I feel like Flash is going to lose game 3 on outsider though . Prove me wrong Flash!
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
July 14 2009 10:31 GMT
#81
On July 14 2009 19:27 radadaundandan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 19:25 ThePhan2m wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:23 radadaundandan wrote:
Any livestream link please?

look page 2. you shouldnt ask unless you checked first

Sups i checked and it streams ESTARS. Sorry no offence anyway.

maybe cuz it's commercial ???? so he streams estars in the meantime???
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 14 2009 10:31 GMT
#82
flash at 1 and kwanro at 9
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
July 14 2009 10:31 GMT
#83
Flashuuuuuuuu!!!!
Flash returns...
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
July 14 2009 10:31 GMT
#84
On July 14 2009 19:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
I feel like Flash is going to lose game 3 on outsider though . Prove me wrong Flash!


It's hard to believe in Flash's TvZ these days. Winning this, and two consecutive TvZs in GOM (quite possible scenario) would go a long way in restoring the faith though.
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
July 14 2009 10:32 GMT
#85
On July 14 2009 19:31 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 19:27 radadaundandan wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:25 ThePhan2m wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:23 radadaundandan wrote:
Any livestream link please?

look page 2. you shouldnt ask unless you checked first

Sups i checked and it streams ESTARS. Sorry no offence anyway.

maybe cuz it's commercial ???? so he streams estars in the meantime???

How would he know that?
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 14 2009 10:32 GMT
#86
kwanro 12 hatch, flash looks like he's going for barracks into cc

no gas
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
July 14 2009 10:34 GMT
#87
lol you can re-add my stream, finally got it working
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 14 2009 10:34 GMT
#88
On July 14 2009 19:24 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 19:22 T.O.P. wrote:
Flash wins, showing that bio play is still viable.


flash please go back to your ROOTS

dats racist
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:35 GMT
#89
oh man. 3 hatch from Kwanro!? No wayyyyyyyyy
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 14 2009 10:35 GMT
#90
wow Flash is going for the unorthodox strategy of MnM twice in a row
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:36 GMT
#91
I can't believe I might not see 2 hatch muta or mech. I'm happy about that
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 14 2009 10:36 GMT
#92
sunkens r us
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 14 2009 10:37 GMT
#93
evo chamber for kwanro

dual starports for flash

mutalisks out
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 14 2009 10:39 GMT
#94
kwanro really has good muta micro
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:41:04
July 14 2009 10:40 GMT
#95
GREATER SPIRE FOR KWANRO

AND ULTRALISK CAVERN

AND DEFILERS MOUND

AND TWO EVO CHAMBERS

OH JIZZ IT'S EVERYTHING
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 10:40 GMT
#96
This is some pretty epic Marine v Muta micro.
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 14 2009 10:40 GMT
#97
Kwanro picked off too many SCV's with those initial mutalisks..
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:40 GMT
#98
Flash you need to make turrets, jesus christ he lost 50 scvs then
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 14 2009 10:40 GMT
#99
wonder if we're going to see Guardians + Ultras from Kwanro
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Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
July 14 2009 10:40 GMT
#100
Greater spire going down for Kwanro... does not seem like a good idea to me, but he's in decent position.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
July 14 2009 10:41 GMT
#101
MnM on Outsider works very poor if zerg takes dual gas and goes mass mutas
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:41 GMT
#102
LOL like 20 sunks
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 14 2009 10:41 GMT
#103
flash map hacks
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Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 14 2009 10:42 GMT
#104
WOOT. Flash picks off about 6 morphing guardians and forces kwanro to cancel all of them
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
July 14 2009 10:42 GMT
#105
nice sunk wall kwanro... what is this a fastest map?
just lurking around...
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
July 14 2009 10:42 GMT
#106
Ouch... guard morphing fail. Flash needs to kill something really fast though or he's toast.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 14 2009 10:42 GMT
#107
sunken defense for kwanro
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
July 14 2009 10:42 GMT
#108
Over 17 sunks at front... jesus christ.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
July 14 2009 10:43 GMT
#109
guardian fail at its finest
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:43 GMT
#110
hmm this game seams so even, flash just took his third and kwanro is on 3 base 4 gas, he just had an expo killed
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:44:39
July 14 2009 10:44 GMT
#111
KWANRO GOING FOR DROP

OH NO

...wait, overreaction, only to kill camping marines

Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
July 14 2009 10:44 GMT
#112
Hey guys, remember when TvZ used to be the coolest match-up? This is like 2008 all over again.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 14 2009 10:44 GMT
#113
Kwanro is on 4 gases now, producing ultralisks
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 14 2009 10:45 GMT
#114
Does kwano know that his full control grp of sunks cant move?
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 14 2009 10:45 GMT
#115
elephants in base
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 14 2009 10:46 GMT
#116
Flash has about 10 vessels now out, I dont see Kwanro breaking in Flash =]
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
July 14 2009 10:46 GMT
#117
flash lift cc wtf!
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 14 2009 10:46 GMT
#118
On July 14 2009 19:46 Solinren wrote:
Flash has about 10 vessels now out, I dont see Kwanro breaking in Flash =]


just broke in ):
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:48:06
July 14 2009 10:47 GMT
#119
Kwanro has too many bases... Flash's vessel fleet is pretty out of control, but I don't think there is much he can do.

+ Show Spoiler +
Fuck this map
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 10:48 GMT
#120
Not looking good for flash . Zerg looks so imba lately.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:49:24
July 14 2009 10:48 GMT
#121
Flash has do something to comebakc here,
nah, flash is mind raped, kawnro has most of the mapo and flash istn attacking
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Hayarok
Profile Joined December 2008
Israel95 Posts
July 14 2009 10:48 GMT
#122
There is another livestream except solinren? O.o
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 14 2009 10:48 GMT
#123
flash losing control
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 14 2009 10:48 GMT
#124
T_T hold out the storm pleasee
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 14 2009 10:49 GMT
#125
IMBA PLAUGE ON 9 VESSELS T_T
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 14 2009 10:49 GMT
#126
sigh..fucking flash

ALl you had to do was get your fucking nat turrets in time and you could take this guy EASY.

Flashes timings have been so off its sad. Those first mutas did so much more damage than they shouldve. Losing that nat gas was huge.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
July 14 2009 10:49 GMT
#127
man the march of cows is too much now i think... looks hopeless for flash...
just lurking around...
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 14 2009 10:50 GMT
#128
flash suddenly decides to move out

and there is still 100+ sunkens
mcgriddle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States253 Posts
July 14 2009 10:51 GMT
#129
drops= good when enemy is turtling with tanks.... kwanro is just splitting up his units for no reason
Reason obeys itself....and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
July 14 2009 10:51 GMT
#130
Which of Kwanro's 10 bases are still mining?
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:51 GMT
#131
Flash is doing some nice stuff, he just gotta get up another base and HOLD
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:56:30
July 14 2009 10:51 GMT
#132
MSL Survivor players + Team spots (Total 48 survivor spots: 20 from offline qualifiers, 16 from previous MSL and 12 from team spots):

(Bolded players from team spots)

Zerg: (Z)Luxury, (Z)sAviOr, (Z)hyvaa, (Z)by.hero

Protoss: (P)JangBi, (P)Horang2, (P)Movie, (P)Much, (P)Anytime, (P)Nbs, (P)Violet, (P)Stork, (P)BeSt, (P)free

Terran: (T)Shine, (T)sKyHigh, (T)PianO, (T)Flash, (T)Leta, (T)HiyA, (T)Light, (T)Mind

3 Zerg
10 Protoss
7 Terran

4 KT [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
2 KHAN [image loading][image loading]
5 CJ [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
2 Hite [image loading][image loading]
2 Stars [image loading][image loading]
1 Air Force ACE [image loading]
1 eSTRO [image loading]
1 OZ [image loading]
1 MBCGame HERO [image loading]
1 SKT1 [image loading]
1 STX [image loading]
1 WeMade FOX [image loading]

Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 14 2009 10:52 GMT
#133
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. FLASH BOY T_T
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 14 2009 10:52 GMT
#134
On July 14 2009 19:51 Orbifold wrote:
Which of Kwanro's 10 bases are still mining?

since I'm not actually watching this, I can only assume Flash did something incredibly stupid and lost a won game?
dats racist
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
July 14 2009 10:52 GMT
#135
HOLY SHIT KWANROLLED
SNARF HWAITING
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
July 14 2009 10:52 GMT
#136
nooooooooooooo fuck outsider
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
July 14 2009 10:52 GMT
#137
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Good music though :D
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51419 Posts
July 14 2009 10:52 GMT
#138
masses of flash fans ashamed to show their faces.
Commentator
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 14 2009 10:52 GMT
#139
..KWANROOLLLLEEEDDD

STOP DROP AND KWANROLL
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
July 14 2009 10:53 GMT
#140
On July 14 2009 19:52 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 19:51 Orbifold wrote:
Which of Kwanro's 10 bases are still mining?

since I'm not actually watching this, I can only assume Flash did something incredibly stupid and lost a won game?


I don't think he really did anything dumb besides going bio on outsider... but I mean... you know.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9014 Posts
July 14 2009 10:53 GMT
#141
Kwanro's face me no like.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 14 2009 10:53 GMT
#142
Make no mistake. Flash lost this game because he had only 1 turret ready at his nat mins and lost his nat gas. Everything else after that was bullshit
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 10:53 GMT
#143
Poor flash... constantly running into good zergs. Now he has to prepare for July followed most likely by Effort.

Did this man anger god or something? This is a terrible streak of games for him to play given his form against zerg.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:53 GMT
#144
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 14 2009 10:53 GMT
#145
Wow, what a great game
ModeratorGood content always wins.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 14 2009 10:53 GMT
#146
On July 14 2009 19:52 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 19:51 Orbifold wrote:
Which of Kwanro's 10 bases are still mining?

since I'm not actually watching this, I can only assume Flash did something incredibly stupid and lost a won game?

He sure did.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 14 2009 10:53 GMT
#147
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD

you know how ironic this statement would sound if posted 5 months ago lol?
dats racist
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51419 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:54:23
July 14 2009 10:54 GMT
#148
kwanro looks like a manly version of kang minkyung
also, flash vs effort gom final with effort winning IMO
Commentator
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
July 14 2009 10:54 GMT
#149
scaramanga
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 14 2009 10:54 GMT
#150
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
July 14 2009 10:55 GMT
#151
flash... i hope he practices hard with all his free time... he just wasnt ready for this year's zerg uprising... then again, no one seems to be able to stop this year's zergs...
just lurking around...
nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
July 14 2009 10:55 GMT
#152
goddamnit
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 10:56:09
July 14 2009 10:55 GMT
#153
Flash officially sucks at TvsZ now.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 14 2009 10:55 GMT
#154
Flash will win GOM, it is his destiny
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 14 2009 10:55 GMT
#155
On July 14 2009 19:53 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Make no mistake. Flash lost this game because he had only 1 turret ready at his nat mins and lost his nat gas. Everything else after that was bullshit

I love it when greedy players get punished
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 10:55 GMT
#156
So stupid imo. Like what the fuck do you do against that? Damn man, I'm usually not pissed after a game, but sigh. Fanboy tears are falling. Gee just let him macro off 4 gas Flash, you'll be fine.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4721 Posts
July 14 2009 10:56 GMT
#157
It is heartbreaking.

Great play by Kwanro tho.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 14 2009 10:56 GMT
#158
I never thought I'd live to see the day when Flash got eliminated by fucking Kwanro. Me is sad fanboy.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
July 14 2009 10:57 GMT
#159
though i'm a bio fan. Bio is pretty fail in outsider.
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
July 14 2009 10:57 GMT
#160
On July 14 2009 19:55 motbob wrote:
Flash will win GOM, it is his destiny


July > Flash.
TranslatorBaa!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51419 Posts
July 14 2009 10:58 GMT
#161
you know, casy in 2006 would rock this map (nukes).
he'll nuke all these damn map abusers into retirement!
Commentator
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 11:11:36
July 14 2009 10:58 GMT
#162
Map statistics: (MSL Only)

Heartbreak Ridge
TvZ 1-2
ZvP 2-1
PvT 1-2
Mirrors Zerg: 0 Protoss: 1 Terran: 1
Total games: 11

Carthage 3
TvZ 2-3
ZvP 0-0
PvT 2-1
Mirrors Zerg: 1 Protoss: 2 Terran: 3
Total games: 14

Outsider
TvZ 1-4
ZvP 0-0
PvT 0-3
Mirrors Zerg: 1 Protoss: 1 Terran: 3
Total games: 13

Byzantium 3
TvZ 1-3
ZvP 2-0
PvT 2-0
Mirrors Zerg: 0 Protoss: 1 Terran: 4
Total games: 13


No wonder flash lost Outsider clearly imba for zerg
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 10:59 GMT
#163
On July 14 2009 19:53 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD

you know how ironic this statement would sound if posted 5 months ago lol?

Well i dont know any terran that can defend kwanro's 11 muta harras with ONE turret, its a fucking joke, flash should have walked over kwanro 2-0 but apparently he feels he can get away with not making defence, i think kwanro killed about 30 scvs that game
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 11:00:39
July 14 2009 10:59 GMT
#164
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?
sAviOr...
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 14 2009 11:00 GMT
#165
YEAH! KWANRO DIDN'T FAIL ME!
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 11:00 GMT
#166
UGH. I still can't get over the awful play I just saw. Flash you are bad and SC1 is almost over. Makes me angry
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 11:01 GMT
#167
GO FORGG BEFORE I RAGE MYSELF TO DEATH. PLZ
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
July 14 2009 11:01 GMT
#168
Flash needs to go home and reinvent his TvZ. With Proleague over and only GOM left to play in, this is his first real break in like 18 months, arguably 2 years. Last chance, Flash!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 11:02 GMT
#169
Yeah. I think darktreb brings up a good point... Flash is out of everything pretty much. Should *hopefully* help him.. even though I think he is a lost cause at this point (except TvT where he is ultra gosu)
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 11:03 GMT
#170
And GTR a nuke would have been so sick omg. Show that noob not to TURTLE (ironic from a Flash fan huh?) RAGEOEJKOEQWKGF
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 11:05:01
July 14 2009 11:04 GMT
#171
Flash needs to start in tvz with what he started with in tvp. Cheese!!
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 11:05 GMT
#172
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
July 14 2009 11:07 GMT
#173
Haha Nal-rA is commentating. I thought he'd be watching E-stars.
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 11:09 GMT
#174
Even tho I like Calm more than ForGG, i'm kinda rooting for ForGG just to see a zerg finally lose.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 11:12:14
July 14 2009 11:10 GMT
#175
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 11:13 GMT
#176
On July 14 2009 20:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.

Flash should be in the finals, he is the best terran in the world and theres no reason to lose to kwanro
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51419 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 11:15:44
July 14 2009 11:15 GMT
#177
On July 14 2009 20:13 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 20:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.

Flash should be in the finals, he is the best terran in the world and theres no reason to lose to kwanro


fanboyism taking over much?
fantasy has been the best terran for 3+ months.
and i'm inclined to say leta has been 2nd best for that amount of time as well.
Commentator
Fresol
Profile Joined April 2009
China77 Posts
July 14 2009 11:15 GMT
#178
Noooooooooooooooooo! I come too late. Flash...
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 11:19 GMT
#179
On July 14 2009 20:15 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 20:13 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.

Flash should be in the finals, he is the best terran in the world and theres no reason to lose to kwanro


fanboyism taking over much?
fantasy has been the best terran for 3+ months.
and i'm inclined to say leta has been 2nd best for that amount of time as well.


Can't argue with results :/. Sad sad day for Flash fans I think. Hopefully he puts a good showing in GOM and then reinvents himself during off season
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 14 2009 11:21 GMT
#180
ForGG going 8rax/10refinery/10depot. Prepare for some all in here.
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 11:22 GMT
#181
ForGG v Calm starting.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 14 2009 11:24 GMT
#182
That rush did so much less damage than it shouldve...poorly played by forgg=/

He shouldve taken out the ovie or at least forced a lot of drones to be pulled early by attacking it..
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 14 2009 11:25 GMT
#183
Going to be GG soon from ForGG. His all-in failed to do enough imo.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 11:27:07
July 14 2009 11:26 GMT
#184
Guess I spoke too soon lol..but ya forgg is fucked anyways
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
July 14 2009 11:28 GMT
#185
Haha he just typed gg then deleted it!
No I'm never serious.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 14 2009 11:28 GMT
#186
On July 14 2009 20:15 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 20:13 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.

Flash should be in the finals, he is the best terran in the world and theres no reason to lose to kwanro


fanboyism taking over much?
fantasy has been the best terran for 3+ months.
and i'm inclined to say leta has been 2nd best for that amount of time as well.

Player Ranking

1. Flash - KT MagicNs 54-19 74.0%
2. Bisu - SK Telecom T1 53-14 79.1%
2. Jaedong - Hwaseung Oz 53-21 71.6%
4. Leta - Hite Sparkyz 49-21 70.0%
5. Calm - STX Soul 40-21 65.6%
6. Light - MBCGame Hero 36-17 67.9%
7. Free - Woongjin Stars 35-25 58.3%
8. Kal - STX Soul 34-23 59.6%
9. Effort - CJ Entus 33-17 66.0%
9. Really - eSTRO 33-32 50.8%
9. Hyvaa - eSTRO 33-33 50.0%
12. Best - SK Telecom T1 32-20 61.5%
12. Yellow[Arnc] - Hite Sparkyz 32-22 59.3%
12. Hiya - Hwaseung Oz 32-24 57.1%
15. JangBi - Samsung Khan 30-21 58.8%
15. Zero - Woongjin Stars 30-31 49.2%
17. Fantasy - SK Telecom T1 29-21 58.0%

Flash still no.1
fantasy isn't even close in pl
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 11:29:45
July 14 2009 11:29 GMT
#187
Wrong thread, sorry.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 14 2009 11:30 GMT
#188
That's not a 3 month ranking tho
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 14 2009 11:30 GMT
#189
GG, sigh, why do half of Forggs games end up like this nowadays? Awkward low econ micro fests which he proceeds to lose even when he has better micro than his opponent but he fucks up multitasking + decision making.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 14 2009 11:30 GMT
#190
On July 14 2009 20:28 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 20:15 GTR wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:13 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.

Flash should be in the finals, he is the best terran in the world and theres no reason to lose to kwanro


fanboyism taking over much?
fantasy has been the best terran for 3+ months.
and i'm inclined to say leta has been 2nd best for that amount of time as well.

Player Ranking

1. Flash - KT MagicNs 54-19 74.0%
2. Bisu - SK Telecom T1 53-14 79.1%
2. Jaedong - Hwaseung Oz 53-21 71.6%
4. Leta - Hite Sparkyz 49-21 70.0%
5. Calm - STX Soul 40-21 65.6%
6. Light - MBCGame Hero 36-17 67.9%
7. Free - Woongjin Stars 35-25 58.3%
8. Kal - STX Soul 34-23 59.6%
9. Effort - CJ Entus 33-17 66.0%
9. Really - eSTRO 33-32 50.8%
9. Hyvaa - eSTRO 33-33 50.0%
12. Best - SK Telecom T1 32-20 61.5%
12. Yellow[Arnc] - Hite Sparkyz 32-22 59.3%
12. Hiya - Hwaseung Oz 32-24 57.1%
15. JangBi - Samsung Khan 30-21 58.8%
15. Zero - Woongjin Stars 30-31 49.2%
17. Fantasy - SK Telecom T1 29-21 58.0%

Flash still no.1
fantasy isn't even close in pl


Flash and JD are tied at #1. :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 11:31 GMT
#191
I'm gonna slit my wrists lol. At least I can watch Boxer Anytime
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 11:32 GMT
#192
I swear man. KWANRO FLASH!? REALLY!!?! Ugh. Time to go to bed. You better rape July 3-0 and beat Effort...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51419 Posts
July 14 2009 11:33 GMT
#193
On July 14 2009 20:28 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 20:15 GTR wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:13 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.

Flash should be in the finals, he is the best terran in the world and theres no reason to lose to kwanro


fanboyism taking over much?
fantasy has been the best terran for 3+ months.
and i'm inclined to say leta has been 2nd best for that amount of time as well.

Player Ranking

1. Flash - KT MagicNs 54-19 74.0%
2. Bisu - SK Telecom T1 53-14 79.1%
2. Jaedong - Hwaseung Oz 53-21 71.6%
4. Leta - Hite Sparkyz 49-21 70.0%
5. Calm - STX Soul 40-21 65.6%
6. Light - MBCGame Hero 36-17 67.9%
7. Free - Woongjin Stars 35-25 58.3%
8. Kal - STX Soul 34-23 59.6%
9. Effort - CJ Entus 33-17 66.0%
9. Really - eSTRO 33-32 50.8%
9. Hyvaa - eSTRO 33-33 50.0%
12. Best - SK Telecom T1 32-20 61.5%
12. Yellow[Arnc] - Hite Sparkyz 32-22 59.3%
12. Hiya - Hwaseung Oz 32-24 57.1%
15. JangBi - Samsung Khan 30-21 58.8%
15. Zero - Woongjin Stars 30-31 49.2%
17. Fantasy - SK Telecom T1 29-21 58.0%

Flash still no.1
fantasy isn't even close in pl


that is accounting all 5 rounds

ever since round 4 (note, last 3 months) he has been struggling.
Commentator
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
July 14 2009 11:35 GMT
#194
On July 14 2009 20:32 Vasoline73 wrote:
I swear man. KWANRO FLASH!? REALLY!!?! Ugh. Time to go to bed. You better rape July 3-0 and beat Effort...


July 3-0 Flash. Heard it here first.

Hurray for Calm, I hope he can get into the semifinals at least ^.^
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 14 2009 11:39 GMT
#195
there is no clear #1 terran atm, Leta, Flash, fantasy are all sharing the #1 rank currently
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 11:45:45
July 14 2009 11:43 GMT
#196
MSL Round of 8 (predictions) (3 pros qualified)

(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Canata

(Z)EffOrt vs (Z)Calm

(Z)ZerO vs (Z)Kwanro

(P)Bisu vs (T)Iris

+ Show Spoiler [KeSPA July 2009 Rankings MSL Ro16 Play…] +

1. (Z)Jaedong
2. (P)Bisu
5. (T)fantasy
10. (P)Kal
11. (Z)ZerO
12. (Z)EffOrt
14. (T)Hwasin
16. (Z)Calm
18. (T)UpMaGiC
22. (Z)Kwanro
29. (T)Iris
36. (T)Canata
46. (P)Pure
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 14 2009 11:44 GMT
#197
Hahha, Jaedong vs Canata will be fun :D
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JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
July 14 2009 11:46 GMT
#198
Who is playing right now? No one is doing live reporting?
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 14 2009 11:46 GMT
#199
Canata will kick JD out of both StarLeagues
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Fresol
Profile Joined April 2009
China77 Posts
July 14 2009 11:47 GMT
#200
Oh, sneaky drone.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 14 2009 11:47 GMT
#201
gogo pure!
http://twitter.com/jhNz
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
July 14 2009 11:48 GMT
#202
On July 14 2009 20:44 crucifix wrote:
Hahha, Jaedong vs Canata will be fun :D

Rematch in OSL Semis k?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 14 2009 11:49 GMT
#203
On July 14 2009 20:48 o3.power91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 20:44 crucifix wrote:
Hahha, Jaedong vs Canata will be fun :D

Rematch in OSL Semis k?

Yeah, since I'm rooting for Canata with all my heart
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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 14 2009 11:50 GMT
#204
anyone watching pure vs zero? what's happening?
http://twitter.com/jhNz
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
July 14 2009 11:52 GMT
#205
lol that was great defence from zero almost as good as JD
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 14 2009 11:57 GMT
#206
It's funny..Zero's evolution chamber at this 3rd was freaking godly this game.

Probably won him the game to be honest. If it had not been placed there zero could've easily lost. Or at least had a much tougher time winning.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 14 2009 11:57 GMT
#207
is it already oveR?
http://twitter.com/jhNz
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51419 Posts
July 14 2009 11:57 GMT
#208
pure raped
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 11:58:23
July 14 2009 11:58 GMT
#209
Nah, ZerO is massively raping Pure here and there.
Oh Pure just GG'ed :D
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 14 2009 11:58 GMT
#210
Damn zerg walls
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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 14 2009 11:58 GMT
#211
On July 14 2009 20:57 GTR wrote:
pure raped


T_T

damn... i really like that guy.
http://twitter.com/jhNz
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
July 14 2009 11:58 GMT
#212
Seems like in this season we will have only zvz finals
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 14 2009 11:59 GMT
#213
Zero just played so damn well that game. He let his Muta stack take one Archon shot and that was really the only minor mistake I was able to see. The sim city at his third was gorgeous.
Zero fighting.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 12:02:27
July 14 2009 12:01 GMT
#214
MSL Survivor players + Team spots (Total 48 survivor spots: 20 from offline qualifiers, 16 from previous MSL and 12 from team spots):

(Bolded players from team spots)

Zerg: (Z)Luxury, (Z)sAviOr, (Z)hyvaa, (Z)by.hero

Protoss: (P)JangBi, (P)Horang2, (P)Movie, (P)Much, (P)Pure, (P)Anytime, (P)Nbs, (P)Violet, (P)Stork, (P)BeSt, (P)free

Terran: (T)Shine, (T)sKyHigh, (T)PianO, (T)Flash, (T)fOrGG, (T)Leta, (T)HiyA, (T)Light, (T)Mind

4 Zerg
11 Protoss
9 Terran

5 KT [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
2 KHAN [image loading][image loading]
5 CJ [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
2 Hite [image loading][image loading]
2 Stars [image loading][image loading]
1 Air Force ACE [image loading]
1 eSTRO [image loading]
1 OZ [image loading]
1 MBCGame HERO [image loading]
1 SKT1 [image loading]
1 STX [image loading]
2 WeMade FOX [image loading][image loading]

MSL Round of 8 (predictions) (4 pros qualified)

(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Canata

(Z)EffOrt vs (Z)Calm

(Z)ZerO vs (Z)Kwanro

(P)Bisu vs (T)Iris

+ Show Spoiler [KeSPA July 2009 Rankings MSL Ro16 Play…] +

1. (Z)Jaedong
2. (P)Bisu
5. (T)fantasy
10. (P)Kal
11. (Z)ZerO
12. (Z)EffOrt
14. (T)Hwasin
16. (Z)Calm
18. (T)UpMaGiC
22. (Z)Kwanro
29. (T)Iris
36. (T)Canata
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 14 2009 12:02 GMT
#215
TooMuchZerg, post that in the R&S thread, no one is going to read it here =.=
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
July 14 2009 12:02 GMT
#216
Zero owned Pure, which makes me happy . But there were no queens involved, which makes me sad .
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 14 2009 12:03 GMT
#217
so zerg heavy :<
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 12:07:39
July 14 2009 12:03 GMT
#218
On July 14 2009 21:02 Solinren wrote:
TooMuchZerg, post that in the R&S thread, no one is going to read it here =.=


There are some who are interested these statistics, they don't just type it I bet there are people who want to follow who is qualified to survivor and for future rounds (which R&S doesn't provide).

Dont worry these are going to be gone after this round (as survivor list is completed, only 20 offline spots left after that). Not going to post when RO8 starts
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
July 14 2009 12:04 GMT
#219
Zergs are just imba now. Not just the OSL, but so far no one has won against a zerg in the MSL ro16 (and unlikely to happen with Effort/Upmagic and Jaedong/Kal left).

Terrans are still doing fine, I guess, but this sucks badly for Protoss. Come on, I want some epic PvZ/PvT and less ZvZ :/
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 14 2009 12:06 GMT
#220
2009 is definitely the Year of the Swarm.
Zero fighting.
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
July 14 2009 12:07 GMT
#221
Zero is the only seed left.
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
July 14 2009 12:07 GMT
#222
yeah man, reminds me of the the days when protoss was considered the weakest race.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
July 14 2009 12:10 GMT
#223
On July 14 2009 21:07 lazz wrote:
yeah man, reminds me of the the days when protoss was considered the weakest race.

Man... I can't even imagine.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 14 2009 12:23 GMT
#224
cough zerg maps cough

Zerg used to be my favorite race to watch but they always lost. Now my favorite race is Terran and they're starting to lose.
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19133 Posts
July 14 2009 12:36 GMT
#225
On July 14 2009 19:54 GTR wrote:
kwanro looks like a manly version of kang minkyung
also, flash vs effort gom final with effort winning IMO

^

word dawg
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 12:50:36
July 14 2009 12:49 GMT
#226
On July 14 2009 21:23 motbob wrote:
cough zerg maps cough

Zerg used to be my favorite race to watch but they always lost. Now my favorite race is Terran and they're starting to lose.


Terrans are doing fine. Protoss are the ones who are losing hardcore these days.

Oh, and I really don't think these MSL maps are particularly Zerg biased.
Zero fighting.
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
July 14 2009 14:02 GMT
#227
So many zergs are advancing in all the leagues this season. The maps were not that imbalanced a month or so earlier, either. Heartbreak ridge, I thought, was a toss heaven, but zerg players can't seem to lose on it anymore. There isn't any toss in the OSL and both are now cluttered with zergs. It seems too disproportionate. I hope we don't end up getting a zvz final.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
July 14 2009 14:13 GMT
#228
*sigh* Flash.... being a major fan I still have to say... Flash's play really hasn't been up to par for the last half part of the season...Out of both MSL and OSL.... as painfully as last season...
Well, hope for a better season next year.
Still got faith!! WIN THE GOM FLASH!!
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
July 14 2009 14:14 GMT
#229
What is happening? Canata getting farther then both leagues (MSL, OSL) than Flash? IT'S RAINING CATS MAYBE 5 YEARS OF MEDIOCRITY WILL WIN YOU A INDIVIDUAL LEAGUE
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 14 2009 14:59 GMT
#230
Man, this must be what it feels like to want Bisu to win an OSL.

"Dammit, Flash," should be KT and Flash's fans new slogan.
Remember Violet.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
July 14 2009 15:08 GMT
#231
On July 14 2009 20:13 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 20:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.

Flash should be in the finals, he is the best terran in the world and theres no reason to lose to kwanro

I think if that were true then he would have been in at least 1 final of the last few OSLs and MSLs -.-
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geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
July 14 2009 15:18 GMT
#232
On July 15 2009 00:08 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 20:13 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.

Flash should be in the finals, he is the best terran in the world and theres no reason to lose to kwanro

I think if that were true then he would have been in at least 1 final of the last few OSLs and MSLs -.-

True lol. Correct me if i'm wrong but i think Flash has only one Starleague Final in his entire career up to date. Even Fantasy has two, Stork has so many (4?).Maybe he is just one hit wonder (like Anytime before). After that he still does good but nothing more.
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 14 2009 15:27 GMT
#233
On July 14 2009 21:10 RoieTRS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 21:07 lazz wrote:
yeah man, reminds me of the the days when protoss was considered the weakest race.

Man... I can't even imagine.


i was perplexed by this as well
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Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
July 14 2009 15:32 GMT
#234
You people make me sad
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
July 14 2009 15:32 GMT
#235
FlaSh you are the epitome of disappointment...
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 14 2009 15:33 GMT
#236
On July 15 2009 00:18 geod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2009 00:08 jello_biafra wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:13 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.

Flash should be in the finals, he is the best terran in the world and theres no reason to lose to kwanro

I think if that were true then he would have been in at least 1 final of the last few OSLs and MSLs -.-

True lol. Correct me if i'm wrong but i think Flash has only one Starleague Final in his entire career up to date. Even Fantasy has two, Stork has so many (4?).Maybe he is just one hit wonder (like Anytime before). After that he still does good but nothing more.


I said this two months ago, and it's still true; (T)fantasy is the best terran in the world. (T)Flash may be more consistent, but fantasy will always post better results because he/oov are more innovative, and he has a stronger upside.
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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
July 14 2009 15:46 GMT
#237
I can see a Bisu vs Jaedong finals on this one (hopefully)
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
July 14 2009 16:04 GMT
#238
On July 14 2009 23:14 nozaro33 wrote:
What is happening? Canata getting farther then both leagues (MSL, OSL) than Flash? IT'S RAINING CATS MAYBE 5 YEARS OF MEDIOCRITY WILL WIN YOU A INDIVIDUAL LEAGUE

Get lost, Canata is awesome.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 16:16:52
July 14 2009 16:14 GMT
#239
noooooooooooooooooo flash

edit: zero is the only saving grace of this day. also calm advancing is nice. he deserves this imo.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 14 2009 16:29 GMT
#240
On July 15 2009 00:32 SilverskY wrote:
FlaSh you are the epitome of disappointment...


What can I add. Flash, why why why? Why do you always disappoint all your fans...
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 14 2009 17:15 GMT
#241
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 14 2009 19:58 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Map statistics: (MSL Only)

Heartbreak Ridge
TvZ 1-2
ZvP 2-1
PvT 1-2
Mirrors Zerg: 0 Protoss: 1 Terran: 1
Total games: 11

Carthage 3
TvZ 2-3
ZvP 0-0
PvT 2-1
Mirrors Zerg: 1 Protoss: 2 Terran: 3
Total games: 14

Outsider
TvZ 1-4
ZvP 0-0
PvT 0-3
Mirrors Zerg: 1 Protoss: 1 Terran: 3
Total games: 13

Byzantium 3
TvZ 1-3
ZvP 2-0
PvT 2-0
Mirrors Zerg: 0 Protoss: 1 Terran: 4
Total games: 13


No wonder flash lost Outsider clearly imba for zerg

Flash could've thumbed it down but chose to get rid of HBR. His fault.
Arf
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
July 14 2009 17:32 GMT
#242
On July 15 2009 02:15 TwoStep wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 14 2009 19:58 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Map statistics: (MSL Only)

Heartbreak Ridge
TvZ 1-2
ZvP 2-1
PvT 1-2
Mirrors Zerg: 0 Protoss: 1 Terran: 1
Total games: 11

Carthage 3
TvZ 2-3
ZvP 0-0
PvT 2-1
Mirrors Zerg: 1 Protoss: 2 Terran: 3
Total games: 14

Outsider
TvZ 1-4
ZvP 0-0
PvT 0-3
Mirrors Zerg: 1 Protoss: 1 Terran: 3
Total games: 13

Byzantium 3
TvZ 1-3
ZvP 2-0
PvT 2-0
Mirrors Zerg: 0 Protoss: 1 Terran: 4
Total games: 13


No wonder flash lost Outsider clearly imba for zerg

Flash could've thumbed it down but chose to get rid of HBR. His fault.

I think Too_MuchZerg may have been kidding: why look at just the MSL for map statistics? Outsider is looking pretty well balanced overall.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 14 2009 17:57 GMT
#243
On July 15 2009 00:18 geod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2009 00:08 jello_biafra wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:13 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 14 2009 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:59 Camlito wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Fuck that, this has happend like 8 times where flash loses to a worse opponent
ffs MAKE TURRETS, NOT HARD


Specific reason why you used 8 ?

4 seasons ago flash won osl
Since then 8 sl's, only against jaedong or bisu would he be considered it to be even, all other times he's been favorite to win, he hasen't played jd or bisu in any leauge to be knocked out, hence 8 times hes lost to shittier players, half the time its from 14cc or no turrets


GGPlay, Yarnc, Yarnc again, ForGG, Leta, Luxury, BeSt...

GGPlay, Yarnc (first time especially), ForGG, and Leta were so painful for Flash fans. BeSt was super painful for me because he had the game won and decided not to push because hes RETARDED SORRY FLASH.

Ugh. And now Kwanro. Gee Kwanro... can't wait to see your interesting MSL games... I'm sure you won't lose in the next round. When I think about it though, Flash probably would have, so it's ok.

Flash should be in the finals, he is the best terran in the world and theres no reason to lose to kwanro

I think if that were true then he would have been in at least 1 final of the last few OSLs and MSLs -.-

True lol. Correct me if i'm wrong but i think Flash has only one Starleague Final in his entire career up to date. Even Fantasy has two, Stork has so many (4?).Maybe he is just one hit wonder (like Anytime before). After that he still does good but nothing more.


Anytime has 2 OSL finals -- his second one was a loss to the Golden Mouse seeking Nada, if you'd recall.

Flash also did win the GSI which is a lot harder than a lot of leagues I can think of. He's definitely hit a moment where he has to either step up or get washed into mediocrity. The only thing that's retained his S-Class lately was his wreckage of the other 2 S-Class terrans, but being a mirror match up wonder doesn't mean anything unless your other games can back it up.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 14 2009 18:05 GMT
#244
Canata!!
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the real challenge is ahead !
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Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
July 14 2009 18:08 GMT
#245
This time, the MSL changes the brackets using the KeSPA ranks, Jaedong will most likely lose against Canata!

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Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2708 Posts
July 14 2009 18:21 GMT
#246
Outsider is a balanced map with 53%/52%/50% in iccup (http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/mapinfo/iccup_outsider.html). If Zerg wins in pro scene is because this is a good zerg year with lots of good zergs.

I think that MSL maps ar Terran flavored imo.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 18:28:27
July 14 2009 18:28 GMT
#247
Any recommended games? Thanks beforehand.
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Jusciax
Profile Joined August 2007
Lithuania588 Posts
July 14 2009 19:03 GMT
#248
Poor Flash
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 14 2009 19:29 GMT
#249
Whoever the fuck did it, stop calling Flash a one hit wonder! He's been the highest ranked terran for about as long as I've followed the progaming scene (a year or so).
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 14 2009 19:29 GMT
#250
Blame Artosis for calling the kid "the best terran of all time, its not even debatable"
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
July 14 2009 19:30 GMT
#251
On July 14 2009 20:39 SuperArc wrote:
there is no clear #1 terran atm, Leta, Flash, fantasy are all sharing the #1 rank currently

If I had to put put life on the line for one of them to win an OSL, it would be Fantasy.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 14 2009 19:39 GMT
#252
On July 15 2009 04:29 Holgerius wrote:
Whoever the fuck did it, stop calling Flash a one hit wonder! He's been the highest ranked terran for about as long as I've followed the progaming scene (a year or so).


Seriously, how can you call Flash one-hit wonder? The guy won 54 games this proleague season and shares the prize for most proleague wins with Jaedong. His elo hasn't drop below 2200 for more than 1.5 years and he has qualified to every single league in last 2 years as far as I can recall.

Truely one hit wonder, lol my ass...
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 14 2009 19:44 GMT
#253
Flash now out of both leagues again...so early, too

Go (T)Canata! Also I'm continuing to be impressed by Zero...
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ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 14 2009 19:59 GMT
#254
poor Flash.
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TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 14 2009 20:01 GMT
#255
When was the last time Flash played a Bo5? I know he has one against July coming up.
Arf
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 14 2009 20:37 GMT
#256
On July 15 2009 05:01 TwoStep wrote:
When was the last time Flash played a Bo5? I know he has one against July coming up.


Long time ago... I think last August against Jaedong in Gom Season 1 final.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 22:07:19
July 14 2009 22:05 GMT
#257
Lol flash is still the best terran in the world, Flash is superior to Leta in every aspect and Fantasy's only point of contention is TvP, otherwise flash is better. And Anytime being a 1 hit wonder...where do you people find the time to make up these ridiculous things.

Again Let me restate most of fantasy's matches are TvP, which is his best MU, from that alone calling him the best is silly. Hes definitely been putting up the best OSL performances in recent seasons, well aside from winning it, but that is all. To me Light was stronger than Fantasy this season.

Anywho heres hoping for a strong next year for terrans like Sea. Mind and Midas.

And theres 1 upside to Flash losing..Zero has a way better chance vs Kwanro than he does Flash, which is incase he doesnt make it past JD in OSL, but JD isnt looking invincible atm, so maybe he will go far in both leagues.
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 22:09:22
July 14 2009 22:08 GMT
#258
Woot Flash is out!
Too bad he didn't have HBR vs a Protoss to get a free win off of!
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 22:17:14
July 14 2009 22:14 GMT
#259
On July 15 2009 07:05 mog87 wrote:
Lol flash is still the best terran in the world, Flash is superior to Leta in every aspect and Fantasy's only point of contention is TvP, otherwise flash is better. And Anytime being a 1 hit wonder...where do you people find the time to make up these ridiculous things.

Again Let me restate most of fantasy's matches are TvP, which is his best MU, from that alone calling him the best is silly. Hes definitely been putting up the best OSL performances in recent seasons, well aside from winning it, but that is all. To me Light was stronger than Fantasy this season.

Anywho heres hoping for a strong next year for terrans like Sea. Mind and Midas.

And theres 1 upside to Flash losing..Zero has a way better chance vs Kwanro than he does Flash, which is incase he doesnt make it past JD in OSL, but JD isnt looking invincible atm, so maybe he will go far in both leagues.

Flash's is better in TvT, but worse in TvP and TvZ. Fantasy's TvZ is bad, but Flash's isn't even passable for a S-class player at this point, it's gotten him knocked out of the two "official" leagues.
Arf
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
July 14 2009 22:17 GMT
#260
On July 15 2009 07:14 TwoStep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2009 07:05 mog87 wrote:
Lol flash is still the best terran in the world, Flash is superior to Leta in every aspect and Fantasy's only point of contention is TvP, otherwise flash is better. And Anytime being a 1 hit wonder...where do you people find the time to make up these ridiculous things.

Again Let me restate most of fantasy's matches are TvP, which is his best MU, from that alone calling him the best is silly. Hes definitely been putting up the best OSL performances in recent seasons, well aside from winning it, but that is all. To me Light was stronger than Fantasy this season.

Anywho heres hoping for a strong next year for terrans like Sea. Mind and Midas.

And theres 1 upside to Flash losing..Zero has a way better chance vs Kwanro than he does Flash, which is incase he doesnt make it past JD in OSL, but JD isnt looking invincible atm, so maybe he will go far in both leagues.

Flash's is better in TvT, but worse in TvP and TvZ. Fantasy's TvZ is bad, but Flash's isn't even mediocre at this point.


Based on..?

Put Fantasy in Flash's place in the OSL group, you think he would've advanced?
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TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 22:20:16
July 14 2009 22:17 GMT
#261
Based on the way he's looked in his TvZ matches, what else?
It's impossible to tell whether Fantasy would've advanced or not, SC is rarely so predictable like tennis, just take Bisu for example. But, Fantasy has looked better in his TvZs than Flash has.
Sometimes it's not about one player doing better, it's about the other one doing worse.
Arf
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 14 2009 22:23 GMT
#262
god flashh noooooooo


he raped kwanro so bad in game 2.. sadly bionic really just doesnt work on outsider

that and he kinda got messed up by mutas
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
July 14 2009 22:25 GMT
#263
On July 15 2009 07:08 Nokeboy wrote:
Woot Flash is out!
Too bad he didn't have HBR vs a Protoss to get a free win off of!


Oh hey! It's the cry baby turtle guy from GOM! Still on that turtle train huh?

Anyways, I would take Flash over Leta, and I still think Flash is better than Fantasy minus TvP. But I would choose Fantasy to take an OSL first just because he doesn't do stupid shit ala Flash.. lol. Fantasy's preparation makes him the better terran right now.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 14 2009 22:28 GMT
#264
I would have to agree...
flash is having some serious decision making issues.

fantasy is best terran right now...

i mean a terran with tvp like that is just magical really
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
July 14 2009 22:30 GMT
#265
Flash's TvP is very good, second best behind Fantasy, his wins against Bisu and Stork prove that. It's Flash's TvZ is whats medicore. I wonder who has the best TvZ?
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 22:33:49
July 14 2009 22:32 GMT
#266
On July 15 2009 07:17 TwoStep wrote:
Based on the way he's looked in his TvZ matches, what else?
It's impossible to tell whether Fantasy would've advanced or not, SC is rarely so predictable like tennis, just take Bisu for example. But, Fantasy has looked better in his TvZs than Flash has.
Sometimes it's not about one player doing better, it's about the other one doing worse.

Hmm I see your point, but I'm not entirely with you. There are some "safe" bets in SC, and I cant quite understand your point about Bisu. Here's something that perfectly illustrates the current status of the protoss race and KTY's place in it...


[image loading]


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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 14 2009 22:42 GMT
#267
lol Midas what the hell is he doing up there
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
July 14 2009 22:46 GMT
#268
Fantasy barely plays TvZ, and even from what hes shown this season there is no indiciation that his TvZ being better, yes he had a nice victory over JD, but then loses to like Hogil. In this case its not about one player doing worse, its about 1 player not even "doing", you cant declare fantasy's the better TvZer on an argument seemingly based on his absence of play.

Again Flash is the best terran no debate, hes just not in the OSL/MSL at the moment.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 22:58:40
July 14 2009 22:56 GMT
#269
As far as Terrans go, i'd say the best are:

TvT = Flash

TvP = Fantasy

TvZ = Leta

Combine the three and you get the best player of all time!! :D

If you look at overall play though i'd seriously say that Flash is still the best. He has a significant amount of PL wins and has just gotten very unlucky with running into a line of the best zergs in the world (with July and Effort still in line).

I'm hoping he can pull it together and win GomTV. He has nothing else to train for :D.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 14 2009 23:21 GMT
#270
Good luck in the Ro8 Canata, you're gonna f*ckin' need it.

Jaedong, Bisu or Fantasy.;
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 14 2009 23:55 GMT
#271
On July 15 2009 07:42 kNyTTyM wrote:
lol Midas what the hell is he doing up there

TvZ used to be Midas' best matchup, only limited by sAviOr in his bonjwa period, which is pretty much what killed Midas' career.
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
July 15 2009 00:06 GMT
#272
Just realized Canata can make it to the finals without facing Jaedong/Bisu/Fantasy
WOOO
SNARF HWAITING
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 15 2009 00:13 GMT
#273
On July 15 2009 09:06 Murdoink wrote:
Just realized Canata can make it to the finals without facing Jaedong/Bisu/Fantasy
WOOO


Wrong, he has to face one of those 3 100% due to seeding rules.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 15 2009 00:39 GMT
#274
On July 15 2009 07:46 mog87 wrote:
Again Flash is the best terran no debate, hes just not in the OSL/MSL at the moment.
"no debate"? How can you even say that at this point? It's just wrong. Yes, there was a time where Flash was undoubtedly the best Terran, but that is not the case anymore.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 15 2009 00:39 GMT
#275
Why is Kwanrollllled not in this thread
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 15 2009 00:49 GMT
#276
On July 15 2009 09:39 arb wrote:
Why is Kwanrollllled not in this thread


Because that joke started to be annoying...
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
July 15 2009 00:57 GMT
#277
It's very premature to say at what level Fantasy's TvZ is playing these days. He's played a total of 6 games since losing to Jaedong in the finals. His TvZ ELO is below iloveoov. And not that's peak ELO, it's current. TvP Fantasy has been posting better results in his games of late and should surpass Flash in TvP ELO shortly. TvT Flash is still on a 10 game winning streak including a win over Fantasy.

The available evidence suggests that Fantasy > Flash TvP, Flash > Fantasy TvT, with TvZ indeterminate due to lack of games. To blindly say Fantasy > Flash or Flash > Fantasy isn't taking an objective view of their results.
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geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
July 15 2009 02:52 GMT
#278
On July 15 2009 07:17 Rostam wrote:

Put Fantasy in Flash's place in the OSL group, you think he would've advanced?


Definitively!
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 04:26:18
July 15 2009 03:23 GMT
#279
On July 15 2009 11:52 geod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2009 07:17 Rostam wrote:

Put Fantasy in Flash's place in the OSL group, you think he would've advanced?


Definitively!


I don't think there is any player out there who would be a definite favourite to advance from that group in OSL, save for Jaedong. That was ridiculously tough group. Flash loss to Kwanro is a different case...
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 15 2009 06:12 GMT
#280
Even more than Flash, Yarnc's style is the perfect counter to Fantasy's. For Fantasy to have advanced from the group would have involved him beating both Effort and Jaedong. It's definitely possible, but it still would've been difficult.
GoodWill
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada149 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 11:06:36
July 15 2009 11:04 GMT
#281
Flash had that 3rd game in the bag, he had 2 dropships for the longest fucking time with his giant marine corp roaming the map not doing work. Kwanro had NOTHING on those dropships, flash fucked himself over by hanging those ships on top of his natural CC over what must have been a 5 minute golden timing window for drops. Man, that was painful to watch.
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