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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:24 soudo wrote: He was pumping hydras while waiting for ling speed to finish I'm guessing. He didn't start ling speed until after his hatch went down and the game was over. He really was trying to hold it off with pure hydra :/ | ||
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peanutter
Australia165 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:28 keV. wrote: I just don't fit in to the fan favorite crowd, I'd much rather see some new player breaking out then the ones we know are good advancing constantly. I hope he does go 2-0. Everyone wants a bonjwa to happen! | ||
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snapcrackle
United States568 Posts
Oh and by signs are obvious... his lings were there.. his O lord came in (although late).... Saw no starport so therefore what can he think.... hmmm a rush!... you had AMPLE time to get lings or sunks... !!!!! | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:30 Jenia6109 wrote: It's not really funny because he will lose in Ro16-Ro8 after all Yea because historically, the good players always win and are good forever. | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:24 Jayme wrote: Yea uhh at one point was he going to do that? by the time goons were stomping down his door it was kinda late for a muta switch. Mutas are damn terrible against range goons anyway and his lings weren't speed ugpraded. He didn't have a choice. It was either pump unupgraded hydralisks or unupgraded lings. If Movie had attacked not 30 seconds later Jaedong would have been fine. uhm starting lingspeed and muta\ling would have been the correct thing to do, he even had lots of time adapting to it. Placing a sunk or 2 at both location and mass muta\lings would probably have saved him. And its better with mutas\slow lings vs goons than unupgraded hydras. | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
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BookTwo
1985 Posts
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:29 Conquest101 wrote: Lol at all the people saying that Jaedong should have gotten lings or gone muta ling. When you have NO LING SPEED (cause slow lings are awesome against range goons) and you already started hydra ups + probably most of your larvae are already making hydras, that's a great time to start mutaling pump. Yep. Give Movie credit for a baller build + good micro + exploiting Jaedong's greed and lack of adaption -_-. GG Movie. <3 thissssssss | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:29 Conquest101 wrote: Lol at all the people saying that Jaedong should have gotten lings or gone muta ling. When you have NO LING SPEED (cause slow lings are awesome against range goons) and you already started hydra ups + probably most of your larvae are already making hydras, that's a great time to start mutaling pump. Yep. Give Movie credit for a baller build + good micro + exploiting Jaedong's greed and lack of adaption -_-. GG Movie. <3 That chokepoint at JD's natural between his 5th hatch was a really nice place to put him in a bad position too. After taking out that and the hydra den he couldn't really lose. | ||
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Tyxiquale
Australia424 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:28 keV. wrote: I just don't fit in to the fan favorite crowd, I'd much rather see some new player breaking out then the ones we know are good advancing constantly. I hope he does go 2-0. starcraft for me is about good starcraft & its more likely that jaedong and fantasy will play good starcraft in a BoX than movie movie is cool but he'd get rolled by half this MSL roster in a best of 5, whereas fantasy will show us something incredible several times through his MSL run, as will the rest of the top tier players in this MSL all-ins like that are neat, but they make for a really shitty league if that's all that happens. can you honestly say that game was better than fantasy vs leta just now? | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:27 Jayme wrote: Nah I don't think he ever will be anywhere near Dragon echelon, would have seen something by now at least. He's just too wildly inconsistent... like Zero -.- Isn't this how great players get started though? By putting up some surprising results mixed in with some disappointing ones. Not everyone pulls a Flash and just starts rolling from day 1. Movie's got all the tools to be great, as well as a great team, and great teacher (Much by many accounts is a great strategist, even by progamer standards). These days everyone has mechanics so in a lot of ways it's still game sense that separates, and Movie has it. Movie just needs to believe he is a top player, kind of like how Effort figured it out steadily, and Skyhigh discovered overnight. Maybe "Dragon" level is a stretch, but 3-2 against Jaedong in the past few months alone ... that says a lot. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:30 Oystein wrote: uhm starting lingspeed and muta\ling would have been the correct thing to do, he even had lots of time adapting to it. Placing a sunk or 2 at both location and mass muta\lings would probably have saved him. And its better with mutas\slow lings vs goons than unupgraded hydras. Oystein I don't think he had the gas.... By the time he realized "OH CRAP GOONS ARE COMING" he was already pumping hydralisks and had invested gas into the speed upgrade. Yes that was absolute garbage adaption from Jaedong but who the hell expects an all goon timing push anyway >.> | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
msl of upsets this aaaand the jaedong fans cleared out, studio's only half capacity now lol | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:20 Ancestral wrote: How presumptuous for him to cheese his way into a tournament when there are good players who could be in it instead. wow. just wow. | ||
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: starcraft for me is about good starcraft & its more likely that jaedong and fantasy will play good starcraft in a BoX than movie movie is cool but he'd get rolled by half this MSL roster in a best of 5, whereas fantasy will show us something incredible several times through his MSL run, as will the rest of the top tier players in this MSL all-ins like that are neat, but they make for a really shitty league if that's all that happens. can you honestly say that game was better than fantasy vs leta just now? this | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
Nah that's something different. Both by.hero and movie are mediocre players (or at least have mediocre results) but are somehow capable to take down two currently best players in the world. | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On June 18 2009 21:30 Musoeun wrote: How presumptuous of Boxer to bunker rush x3 for a title. Owait. (Well, okay, it was - but point is, he won.) Seriously, a win's a win, ugly or pretty. And this one wasn't even cheese. All-in =/= cheese, whoo. Did you read the rest of my post? The chance that Movie makes it to Ro4 is essentially 0%, while any of the other three have a good chance. BoxeR was in the finals, and I agree he should do whatever he can to win there. Also, Movie's play was very good there. I don't think Movie should lose on purpose because he won't make it as far in the league. My literal meaning is that I really hope Fantasy makes it and then Jaedong or Leta make it because the MSL Ro16 and on will be better with them over Movie, who is good but clearly not on MSL winner (if he makes it to Ro4 I'll eat an entire row of watermelons). | ||
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