One player that caught my eyes once more.... GROUP 5, BoxeR!!!!!!
And also not so important (and could careless) in group 8 where IdrA is in..
Also... Mamga retired???? I guess after all that trash talk from the last MSL and then got beaten like no tomorrow, he has officially walk thru shame...
Seriously it's the "easiest" group possible for Idra considering how many great pros are in there. He better win some games, he should win some. Beating shuttle who loses a lot to terran would be pretty cool already and then it's all arguably easier from there until Really.
On April 02 2009 10:03 leandroqm wrote: Are you guys watching this? I'm trying to find out where to click on daum player! =D
This is not broadcast live. They pick the most interesting matchups from each time frame and broadcast them a few hours later.
But wasn't OSL preliminaries broadcasted live?
Yes, OnGameNet and MBCGame broadcast their prelims differently. Personally I like the OGN Prelims much better, but OGN pretty much always trumps anything MBC does.
On April 02 2009 10:03 leandroqm wrote: Are you guys watching this? I'm trying to find out where to click on daum player! =D
This is not broadcast live. They pick the most interesting matchups from each time frame and broadcast them a few hours later.
But wasn't OSL preliminaries broadcasted live?
Yes, OnGameNet and MBCGame broadcast their prelims differently. Personally I like the OGN Prelims much better, but OGN pretty much always trumps anything MBC does.
OGN>MBC anytime.
WTF IS WITH THAT RADISH GUY LOL
Btw, I realised that YaoYuan is showing OGN channel, even though I pressed MBC. Anyone experiencing the same thing?
On April 02 2009 10:03 leandroqm wrote: Are you guys watching this? I'm trying to find out where to click on daum player! =D
This is not broadcast live. They pick the most interesting matchups from each time frame and broadcast them a few hours later.
But wasn't OSL preliminaries broadcasted live?
Yes, OnGameNet and MBCGame broadcast their prelims differently. Personally I like the OGN Prelims much better, but OGN pretty much always trumps anything MBC does.
OGN>MBC anytime.
WTF IS WITH THAT RADISH GUY LOL
OGN is superior to MBC in most ways (tournament prestige, live streams) but I really do prefer MBC's commentating team - especially Nal_rA! They seem much more enthusiastic and "young" than the OGN commentators.
On April 02 2009 10:03 leandroqm wrote: Are you guys watching this? I'm trying to find out where to click on daum player! =D
This is not broadcast live. They pick the most interesting matchups from each time frame and broadcast them a few hours later.
But wasn't OSL preliminaries broadcasted live?
Yes, OnGameNet and MBCGame broadcast their prelims differently. Personally I like the OGN Prelims much better, but OGN pretty much always trumps anything MBC does.
OGN>MBC anytime.
WTF IS WITH THAT RADISH GUY LOL
OGN is superior to MBC in most ways (tournament prestige, live streams) but I really do prefer MBC's commentating team - especially Nal_rA! They seem much more enthusiastic and "young" than the OGN commentators.
I sort of prefer OGN's commentators more, their views are more in-depth, whereas MBC commentators are mostly screaming and very, very obvious stuff. "Oh, now the probe is moving out." "Oh, one tank is out." I'll say like half of what they say are made up of such stuff... which is sometimes annoying.
Any news on whether they're starting early or what? Morning groups aren't slated to start until 14:00, right? Really anxious to see boxer and the great white hope, but I can't watch for awhile yet.
On April 02 2009 10:03 leandroqm wrote: Are you guys watching this? I'm trying to find out where to click on daum player! =D
This is not broadcast live. They pick the most interesting matchups from each time frame and broadcast them a few hours later.
But wasn't OSL preliminaries broadcasted live?
Yes, OnGameNet and MBCGame broadcast their prelims differently. Personally I like the OGN Prelims much better, but OGN pretty much always trumps anything MBC does.
OGN>MBC anytime.
WTF IS WITH THAT RADISH GUY LOL
OGN is superior to MBC in most ways (tournament prestige, live streams) but I really do prefer MBC's commentating team - especially Nal_rA! They seem much more enthusiastic and "young" than the OGN commentators.
I sort of prefer OGN's commentators more, their views are more in-depth, whereas MBC commentators are mostly screaming and very, very obvious stuff. "Oh, now the probe is moving out." "Oh, one tank is out." I'll say like half of what they say are made up of such stuff... which is sometimes annoying.
On April 02 2009 10:03 leandroqm wrote: Are you guys watching this? I'm trying to find out where to click on daum player! =D
This is not broadcast live. They pick the most interesting matchups from each time frame and broadcast them a few hours later.
But wasn't OSL preliminaries broadcasted live?
Yes, OnGameNet and MBCGame broadcast their prelims differently. Personally I like the OGN Prelims much better, but OGN pretty much always trumps anything MBC does.
OGN>MBC anytime.
WTF IS WITH THAT RADISH GUY LOL
OGN is superior to MBC in most ways (tournament prestige, live streams) but I really do prefer MBC's commentating team - especially Nal_rA! They seem much more enthusiastic and "young" than the OGN commentators.
I sort of prefer OGN's commentators more, their views are more in-depth, whereas MBC commentators are mostly screaming and very, very obvious stuff. "Oh, now the probe is moving out." "Oh, one tank is out." I'll say like half of what they say are made up of such stuff... which is sometimes annoying.
haha yes, I suppose if I could actually understand Korean I might have a different opinion. Considering I don't, though, I actually prefer MBC's craziness over OGN's in-depth analysis. Screaming and shouting unit names I can totally follow, but strategy analysis...that's behind the language barrier.
On April 02 2009 10:49 Kuja900 wrote: JWD im the guy who posted "DESTROY THEM GREG" its the right thread u can tell cause gregs name has alot of characters in it
OK cool, I should have noticed that one name with four characters. Greg sticks out in print just like he does in a CJ team photo.
On April 02 2009 10:03 leandroqm wrote: Are you guys watching this? I'm trying to find out where to click on daum player! =D
This is not broadcast live. They pick the most interesting matchups from each time frame and broadcast them a few hours later.
But wasn't OSL preliminaries broadcasted live?
Yes, OnGameNet and MBCGame broadcast their prelims differently. Personally I like the OGN Prelims much better, but OGN pretty much always trumps anything MBC does.
OGN>MBC anytime.
WTF IS WITH THAT RADISH GUY LOL
OGN is superior to MBC in most ways (tournament prestige, live streams) but I really do prefer MBC's commentating team - especially Nal_rA! They seem much more enthusiastic and "young" than the OGN commentators.
I sort of prefer OGN's commentators more, their views are more in-depth, whereas MBC commentators are mostly screaming and very, very obvious stuff. "Oh, now the probe is moving out." "Oh, one tank is out." I'll say like half of what they say are made up of such stuff... which is sometimes annoying.
On April 02 2009 11:06 p4NDemik wrote: It appears this didn't actually start at 10:00 KST. Either that or the Fomos reporters are still sleeping, because there aren't any updates yet.
Seems like the Koreans are talking about him, but I can't figure out what they're saying Google Translate spews out nonsense for the most part (but somehow it translated 그렉필즈 as Greg Fields o.O).
On April 02 2009 11:09 JWD wrote: Hey konadora/some other Korean speaker, it would be super super awesome if you could translate any comments related to IdrA from this post at Fomos:
Seems like the Koreans are talking about him, but I can't figure out what they're saying Google Translate spews out nonsense for the most part (but somehow it translated 그렉필즈 as Greg Fields o.O).
I'll only translate the ones regarding IdrA.
324 04-01 23:53 (211.210.120.48) 외국인 올라가라 그럼 외국인 팬들 찾아온다
Hope the foreigner qualifies so more foreign fans will come.
On April 02 2009 11:36 littlechava wrote: minor correction: Britney is P also, why would someone forfeit their games?
illness, lateness
cant see either one unless he's SERIOUSLY ill which i doubt, he could still play the games and lateness is unlikely, don't they all come to the prelims on team transportation?
On April 02 2009 11:09 JWD wrote: Hey konadora/some other Korean speaker, it would be super super awesome if you could translate any comments related to IdrA from this post at Fomos:
Seems like the Koreans are talking about him, but I can't figure out what they're saying Google Translate spews out nonsense for the most part (but somehow it translated 그렉필즈 as Greg Fields o.O).
On April 02 2009 11:55 KnightOfNi wrote: Is group 8 just not being played or what? They are supposed to be morning shift...
They're probably going to broadcast the games in that group would be my guess. Can't think of another good reason for them to not be playing/not release results yet.
Not to mention that YoonJoong's T losses are coming from good terrans like Mind and Hiya. Idra's results seem good to me, hopefully he keep it up and gets more chances to play.
On April 02 2009 12:13 Lockon Stratos wrote: Uhh YoonJoong has a terrible record vs. T.. Idra just failed, as usual.
Dude, he just took another game off an A-Team progamer. Get that stick outta your ass.
I wouldn't exactly call YoonJoong A-Team. Though the highlight of his career was when he kicked out BeSt then failed to qualify.
*sigh*, BeSt... You better make it out this time.
Not making the semis of GOM S1?
Hmm, never knew that...
Tsk, tsk. This shows that people are more knowledgeable about progamers they like. You link Shuttle to his games vs Best and I link it with his series against Jaedong. But yeah, taking a game off Shuttle is seriously impressive.
On April 02 2009 12:13 Lockon Stratos wrote: Uhh YoonJoong has a terrible record vs. T.. Idra just failed, as usual.
YoonJoong is aka Shuttle. Shuttle's an A-team member and make the semi-finals in the first GOM. I'd call going 1-2 vs him pretty impressive.
Let's check his vT losses: Canata, HiYa, Mind (x3), Sea, Leta (x2), Mong (x2), go.go, Boxer, Flash and Canta. With wins vs Darkelf, Ruby, Hiya (x2) and Mind. Oh yeah, obviously a horrible PvT player.
On April 02 2009 12:13 Lockon Stratos wrote: Uhh YoonJoong has a terrible record vs. T.. Idra just failed, as usual.
Dude, he just took another game off an A-Team progamer. Get that stick outta your ass.
I wouldn't exactly call YoonJoong A-Team. Though the highlight of his career was when he kicked out BeSt then failed to qualify.
*sigh*, BeSt... You better make it out this time.
hmmm?
you can't kinda be A-team. He obviously is. He got all those proleague appearances precisely because he is A-team. If you want to make the case Idra took a game off a slumping a-teamer, you're right, but hes still an A-teamer.
on A-team != A-class player.
After all, spear is on the A-team of Lecaf
edit: the tone of this post is really aggressive. I don't mean it to be. Sorry
On April 02 2009 12:21 Avidkeystamper wrote: He lost to inyeon ><. What's with all the 'yoon' pronounciations? I think inyeon=OO[S.G], but I"m not sure, can someone confirm?
Yes and yes, provided people knew what they were talking about when it happened. The confusing bit is I think he was playing as inyeon[3.33], a completely different clan.
This is the kid that, in his first TV game, had to face jaedong in WL the night before jaedong had a huge match, so he got 5-pooled and completely run over. His expression was absolutely priceless.
Nice to see that Idra at least took a game against YoonJoong. As some people has pointed out, YoonJoong has beaten Hiya (who has awesome TvP) 2-0, so Idra should not be ashamed of his performance.
I'm STILL seeing absolutely nothing on group 8 from fomos. My picture still has no results posted... and I've refreshed about a million times (which usually works)... WTF??
On April 02 2009 12:31 mijellin wrote: quick question: in each 8man group, are the losing 7 totally gone from the msl, or do they have another chance off getting in?
On April 02 2009 12:31 mijellin wrote: quick question: in each 8man group, are the losing 7 totally gone from the msl, or do they have another chance off getting in?
On April 02 2009 12:31 mijellin wrote: quick question: in each 8man group, are the losing 7 totally gone from the msl, or do they have another chance off getting in?
They are gone til next season. Feel the brutality of offliners.
On April 02 2009 12:31 mijellin wrote: quick question: in each 8man group, are the losing 7 totally gone from the msl, or do they have another chance off getting in?
They're totally gone. Once you're out, you don't get a chance of getting back in (unless someone gets hurt or something).
On April 02 2009 12:31 KnightOfNi wrote: I'm STILL seeing absolutely nothing on group 8 from fomos. My picture still has no results posted... and I've refreshed about a million times (which usually works)... WTF??
On April 02 2009 12:31 KnightOfNi wrote: I'm STILL seeing absolutely nothing on group 8 from fomos. My picture still has no results posted... and I've refreshed about a million times (which usually works)... WTF??
That MBCGame bracket has Favian listed as a Protoss player - is that a mistake by them or is TLPD wrong? Or perhaps it's a different player with the same name that isn't in TLPD?
On April 02 2009 12:31 KnightOfNi wrote: I'm STILL seeing absolutely nothing on group 8 from fomos. My picture still has no results posted... and I've refreshed about a million times (which usually works)... WTF??
On April 02 2009 12:31 KnightOfNi wrote: I'm STILL seeing absolutely nothing on group 8 from fomos. My picture still has no results posted... and I've refreshed about a million times (which usually works)... WTF??
On April 02 2009 12:31 KnightOfNi wrote: I'm STILL seeing absolutely nothing on group 8 from fomos. My picture still has no results posted... and I've refreshed about a million times (which usually works)... WTF??
No it doesnt? BestGod's Korean name is: 김민제 while Shuttle's is: 김윤중. They have shuttle's name there.
when I click on 김윤중 it shows that bestgod beat idra 2-1......huh
Don't know what to tell you about that, I've just been going by the names in Hangul. I wouldn't sweat it, though, probably just a mixup with the ID's. If the Korean names are right, then you should feel pretty sure it's right.
On April 02 2009 12:35 GGQ wrote: bad news. TvT is historically GanZi's best matchup!
GanZi
vT: 3-10 (23.08%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L W L L L L L L L
Wut?
Compare them to his other matchups....duh.
Oh lol
20% winrate overall is just plain sad.
Can you just get off this site? lol. Your the typical gosugamers.net troll, attempting to piss off all of Teamliquid.net. Fuck off.
???
Was talking about konadora. He's going on a unabashed IdrA hate spree earlier on, saying Shuttle is terrible etc. lol. Christ.
I am pretty sure I understood who you were talking to, and he can not like IdrA if you doesn't want to? Also, all he said was that a 20% win rate is bad.....and it is.
In addition, by trying to generalize gosugamers and trolling this guy, instead of making TL look good, you are in fact showing that TL is actually the trolls, not gosugamers.
I'm not saying that TL is a bunch of trolls, just you.
On April 02 2009 12:31 KnightOfNi wrote: I'm STILL seeing absolutely nothing on group 8 from fomos. My picture still has no results posted... and I've refreshed about a million times (which usually works)... WTF??
No it doesnt? BestGod's Korean name is: 김민제 while Shuttle's is: 김윤중. They have shuttle's name there.
when I click on 김윤중 it shows that bestgod beat idra 2-1......huh
Don't know what to tell you about that, I've just been going by the names in Hangul. I wouldn't sweat it, though, probably just a mixup with the ID's. If the Korean names are right, then you should feel pretty sure it's right.
On April 02 2009 12:35 GGQ wrote: bad news. TvT is historically GanZi's best matchup!
GanZi
vT: 3-10 (23.08%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L W L L L L L L L
Wut?
Compare them to his other matchups....duh.
Oh lol
20% winrate overall is just plain sad.
Can you just get off this site? lol. Your the typical gosugamers.net troll, attempting to piss off all of Teamliquid.net. Fuck off.
???
Was talking about konadora. He's going on a unabashed IdrA hate spree earlier on, saying Shuttle is terrible etc. lol. Christ.
Dude, I quoted the stats because I didn't see his other match-ups, and I didn't think that 23% winrate was 'good', until I saw his other matchups. No need to ask me to fuck off or anything, I love teamliquid as much as anyone else.
On April 02 2009 12:52 IdrA wrote: tttttt wish id had more time to practice for this after gom felt kinda sloppy and unprepared oh well
Better luck next time... still not bad though! How much do you think the practice time matters? Like, do you think Flash suffers a huge amount or marginally from having so many leagues/having to prepare for so much proleague?
On April 02 2009 12:52 IdrA wrote: tttttt wish id had more time to practice for this after gom felt kinda sloppy and unprepared oh well
Better luck next time... still not bad though! How much do you think the practice time matters? Like, do you think Flash suffers a huge amount or marginally from having so many leagues/having to prepare for so much proleague?
Personal opinion, but I think they are also somewhat 'practicing' when playing in league matches. So it's a give-and-take situation?
On April 02 2009 12:52 IdrA wrote: tttttt wish id had more time to practice for this after gom felt kinda sloppy and unprepared oh well
Is it ok for you to tell us which game you won? If you took down an A team Protoss on Medusa, that'd be pretty sick. Even Destination would be impressive, to be honest. I know it seems a little hollow, but congrats on those 2-1s, they beat the hell out of 2-0's.
On April 02 2009 12:52 IdrA wrote: tttttt wish id had more time to practice for this after gom felt kinda sloppy and unprepared oh well
Better luck next time... still not bad though! How much do you think the practice time matters? Like, do you think Flash suffers a huge amount or marginally from having so many leagues/having to prepare for so much proleague?
Personal opinion, but I think they are also somewhat 'practicing' when playing in league matches. So it's a give-and-take situation?
Well even if that's the case, how much of a game day is spent not playing games due to travel, prep, etc? Plus the whole not practicing for the specific event/matchup/player thing. That doesn't really make sense to me.
On April 02 2009 12:52 IdrA wrote: tttttt wish id had more time to practice for this after gom felt kinda sloppy and unprepared oh well
Better luck next time... still not bad though! How much do you think the practice time matters? Like, do you think Flash suffers a huge amount or marginally from having so many leagues/having to prepare for so much proleague?
Personal opinion, but I think they are also somewhat 'practicing' when playing in league matches. So it's a give-and-take situation?
Well even if that's the case, how much of a game day is spent not playing games due to travel, prep, etc? Plus the whole not practicing for the specific event/matchup/player thing. That doesn't really make sense to me.
Well that's also a point I guess, since when they practice, they'll practice for a certain matchup/style, whereas in broadcasted matches, that may be impossible to play a certain style throughout the practice matches. Physical and mental factors may count as well.
On April 02 2009 13:00 KnightOfNi wrote: And in the meantime Calm vs han is STILL going on. Its at the hour mark or so right now.
Really want to watch this What map is it being played on?
They have the match highlighted on the site I'm using, I wonder what that's indicative of. I don't think they've updated anything else mid-series. Maybe techincal diff?
Nope, and the match is still highlighted in red. I haven't even been able to find what looks like a post or anything that might mention if something's up. I'm confused. And super anxious TT.
Anybody checking MBC's site? Well, anybody that can at least halfway read korean and see if something's up with the match? Wouldn't normally ask, but it's the only match that's been highlighted or updated midway on this site throughout.
Wow, so much disapointment going on on this thread . I wasn't really cheering for anyone, but July and Boxer getting knocked out sort of shocked me. They can still get in the OSL tough, so it's ok (sort of)
On April 02 2009 13:25 littlechava wrote: 4 terrans, 2 zergs so far
i think im gonna like this msl
wow, Best is the only protoss that still has a chance to advance. Why so protoss unfriendly results? I don't see Tear of the Moon as a map, so that can't be the excuse .
On April 02 2009 13:25 littlechava wrote: 4 terrans, 2 zergs so far
i think im gonna like this msl
wow, Best is the only protoss that still has a chance to advance. Why so protoss unfriendly results? I don't see Tear of the Moon as a map, so that can't be the excuse .
Hell, Medusa is even in the map pool, making the number of T > P results surprising.
gg Boxer.... well I think I'm going to go lay on my bed and cry....
ganzi has officially became one of the top person on my list of "if I had a special sercet task force in my disposal to remove anyone from anywhere by sending them into mars with no air to live on"
On April 02 2009 13:25 littlechava wrote: 4 terrans, 2 zergs so far
i think im gonna like this msl
wow, Best is the only protoss that still has a chance to advance. Why so protoss unfriendly results? I don't see Tear of the Moon as a map, so that can't be the excuse .
Because after the Dragons they all suck horribly. No really promising up and coming protosses out there.
On April 02 2009 13:25 littlechava wrote: 4 terrans, 2 zergs so far
i think im gonna like this msl
wow, Best is the only protoss that still has a chance to advance. Why so protoss unfriendly results? I don't see Tear of the Moon as a map, so that can't be the excuse .
MSL qualifiers have always been hell. The more players participate, the more of a hell it becomes. Does make for interesting, if gut wrenching, results, though. And interesting can't be all bad.
I don't get it BeSt probably has Bisu to mentor him and he keeps getting worse..Did he even used to have the best PvP ? Geez. And BoxeR bad bad day this sucks
On April 02 2009 13:56 Jaksiel wrote: A lot of relative unknowns advanced from the morning groups.
I wouldn't call them unknowns as much as I would call them players who just are infamous for sucking. I mean Shine, SaiR, GanZi, and ZergBong? Come on.
Hyun is ok, and Calm/HiyA/Light are all legitimately good though.
On April 02 2009 14:05 Mortician wrote: Can some1 tell me how did BoxeR lose, because it was too early for me to watch it?
We haven't seen any of the games yet. They'll be picking the ones worth watching and commentating them at some point (hopefully very soon for the morning games).
On April 02 2009 14:05 Mortician wrote: Can some1 tell me how did BoxeR lose, because it was too early for me to watch it?
We haven't seen any of the games yet. They'll be picking the ones worth watching and commentating them at some point (hopefully very soon for the morning games).
Yeah, and I'm guessing the BoxeR-GanZi games will be among these (even though he lost them ).
@JWD: To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, I imagine so because it's boxer and he probably did something crazy that made for a fun game but didn't quite work out, but just because it was a big upset/fan favorite/etc. doesn't mean it'll be shown. There's lots of games to be covered and some have to miss the cut. We may get one and not the other, or neither, I'd be a little surprised if we get both.
What a (ch)interesting result for the first group. I wasn't expecting Best to be beaten 2:0 by Shine. Maybe Flash is spilling the beans on how to become a world-class Terran.
On April 02 2009 14:11 maareek wrote: @JWD: To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, I imagine so because it's boxer and he probably did something crazy that made for a fun game but didn't quite work out, but just because it was a big upset/fan favorite/etc. doesn't mean it'll be shown. There's lots of games to be covered and some have to miss the cut. We may get one and not the other, or neither, I'd be a little surprised if we get both.
On April 02 2009 14:11 maareek wrote: @JWD: To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, I imagine so because it's boxer and he probably did something crazy that made for a fun game but didn't quite work out, but just because it was a big upset/fan favorite/etc. doesn't mean it'll be shown. There's lots of games to be covered and some have to miss the cut. We may get one and not the other, or neither, I'd be a little surprised if we get both.
Boxer's cheese never fails.
Something crazy doesn't have to be cheese. Medic blind ring a bell? ;(
On April 02 2009 14:11 maareek wrote: @JWD: To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, I imagine so because it's boxer and he probably did something crazy that made for a fun game but didn't quite work out, but just because it was a big upset/fan favorite/etc. doesn't mean it'll be shown. There's lots of games to be covered and some have to miss the cut. We may get one and not the other, or neither, I'd be a little surprised if we get both.
How does BeSt always lose in the MSL prelims in questionable fashion? Isn't his PvT his strongest matchup?
I swear, Bisu sucked all the Starcraft force from Best after joining SKT. Now Bisu is the one with the strongest PvP in the world, and apparently Bisu also took Best's PvT
On April 02 2009 14:11 maareek wrote: @JWD: To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, I imagine so because it's boxer and he probably did something crazy that made for a fun game but didn't quite work out, but just because it was a big upset/fan favorite/etc. doesn't mean it'll be shown. There's lots of games to be covered and some have to miss the cut. We may get one and not the other, or neither, I'd be a little surprised if we get both.
Boxer's cheese never fails.
BoxeR doesn't cheese, he "crafts brilliant strategies".
On April 02 2009 14:11 maareek wrote: @JWD: To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, I imagine so because it's boxer and he probably did something crazy that made for a fun game but didn't quite work out, but just because it was a big upset/fan favorite/etc. doesn't mean it'll be shown. There's lots of games to be covered and some have to miss the cut. We may get one and not the other, or neither, I'd be a little surprised if we get both.
Boxer's cheese never fails.
Something crazy doesn't have to be cheese. Medic blind ring a bell? ;(
Ah yeah, he lost that one, didn't he? Was it an official game though?
The only other failure I can think of was the base lift vs Yellow, and it was still successful at confusing the hell out of him. :p
On April 02 2009 14:20 seowony38 wrote: MSL Prelims LIVE schedule
15:00 , 18:00 , 21:00 (KST)
??
Wasn't it 14:00 KST?
Fixed. It was 14:00/17:00/20:00 last prelims, so I just copied that from the thread. Couldn't find it anywhere to confirm though. Kinda sucks it's pushed back - I'm gonna have to hit the hay here soon.
On April 02 2009 14:11 maareek wrote: @JWD: To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, I imagine so because it's boxer and he probably did something crazy that made for a fun game but didn't quite work out, but just because it was a big upset/fan favorite/etc. doesn't mean it'll be shown. There's lots of games to be covered and some have to miss the cut. We may get one and not the other, or neither, I'd be a little surprised if we get both.
Boxer's cheese never fails.
Something crazy doesn't have to be cheese. Medic blind ring a bell? ;(
Ah yeah, he lost that one, didn't he? Was it an official game though?
The only other failure I can think of was the base lift vs Yellow, and it was still successful at confusing the hell out of him. :p
Yeah he lost that one; don't think it was official game, no. He also lost that epic TvP vs JF 2(?) seasons or so ago on Troy from ICCup where he went medic blind. I don't think I've ever seen him do that and win, actually. Not that it really matters who eliminates who, we all know who wins when a move like that is pulled off.
That base lift was one of the greatest things ever. Everybody remembers that, but nobody remembers yellow winning. Story of Yellow's career, actually...
On April 02 2009 14:20 seowony38 wrote: MSL Prelims LIVE schedule
15:00 , 18:00 , 21:00 (KST)
??
Wasn't it 14:00 KST?
Fixed. It was 14:00/17:00/20:00 last prelims, so I just copied that from the thread. Couldn't find it anywhere to confirm though. Kinda sucks it's pushed back - I'm gonna have to hit the hay here soon.
Ah, 35 minutes to go!!
Can't wait to see how it goes, prelims sometimes produce interesting matches I remember that long ass PvZ on Troy for one of the OSL prelims. Would have loved an entire game cast
On April 02 2009 14:11 maareek wrote: @JWD: To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, I imagine so because it's boxer and he probably did something crazy that made for a fun game but didn't quite work out, but just because it was a big upset/fan favorite/etc. doesn't mean it'll be shown. There's lots of games to be covered and some have to miss the cut. We may get one and not the other, or neither, I'd be a little surprised if we get both.
Boxer's cheese never fails.
Something crazy doesn't have to be cheese. Medic blind ring a bell? ;(
Ah yeah, he lost that one, didn't he? Was it an official game though?
The only other failure I can think of was the base lift vs Yellow, and it was still successful at confusing the hell out of him. :p
Yeah he lost that one; don't think it was official game, no. He also lost that epic TvP vs JF 2(?) seasons or so ago on Troy from ICCup where he went medic blind. I don't think I've ever seen him do that and win, actually. Not that it really matters who eliminates who, we all know who wins when a move like that is pulled off.
That base lift was one of the greatest things ever. Everybody remembers that, but nobody remembers yellow winning. Story of Yellow's career, actually...
Didn't he go Medic+Blind vs Didi8 in the WCG and won?
On April 02 2009 14:25 maareek wrote: That base lift was one of the greatest things ever. Everybody remembers that, but nobody remembers yellow winning. Story of Yellow's career, actually...
On April 02 2009 14:25 maareek wrote: That base lift was one of the greatest things ever. Everybody remembers that, but nobody remembers yellow winning. Story of Yellow's career, actually...
On April 02 2009 14:25 maareek wrote: That base lift was one of the greatest things ever. Everybody remembers that, but nobody remembers yellow winning. Story of Yellow's career, actually...
On April 02 2009 14:25 maareek wrote: That base lift was one of the greatest things ever. Everybody remembers that, but nobody remembers yellow winning. Story of Yellow's career, actually...
Just noticed, no protoss from morning groups made it into MSL. 5 Terran 3 Zerg advanced. No idea on the afternoon and evening groups, but with already 16 Terrans, this seems like it could be a Terran-dominated season..?
hyvaa has beaten some A zerg. Zero, Luxury. Also Paino. So either hyvaa has totally failed to practice since, or this GanZi guy has a lot of potential.
On April 02 2009 14:51 scwizard wrote: hyvaa has beaten some A zerg. Zero, Luxury. Also Paino. So either hyvaa has totally failed to practice since, or this GanZi guy has a lot of potential.
On April 02 2009 14:51 scwizard wrote: hyvaa has beaten some A zerg. Zero, Luxury. Also Paino. So either hyvaa has totally failed to practice since, or this GanZi guy has a lot of potential.
So by logical reasoning, we find the first case to be true.
On April 02 2009 14:11 maareek wrote: @JWD: To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, I imagine so because it's boxer and he probably did something crazy that made for a fun game but didn't quite work out, but just because it was a big upset/fan favorite/etc. doesn't mean it'll be shown. There's lots of games to be covered and some have to miss the cut. We may get one and not the other, or neither, I'd be a little surprised if we get both.
Boxer's cheese never fails.
Something crazy doesn't have to be cheese. Medic blind ring a bell? ;(
Ah yeah, he lost that one, didn't he? Was it an official game though?
The only other failure I can think of was the base lift vs Yellow, and it was still successful at confusing the hell out of him. :p
Yeah he lost that one; don't think it was official game, no. He also lost that epic TvP vs JF 2(?) seasons or so ago on Troy from ICCup where he went medic blind. I don't think I've ever seen him do that and win, actually. Not that it really matters who eliminates who, we all know who wins when a move like that is pulled off.
That base lift was one of the greatest things ever. Everybody remembers that, but nobody remembers yellow winning. Story of Yellow's career, actually...
Didn't he go Medic+Blind vs Didi8 in the WCG and won?
Hmm, possible, although I don't remember seeing it. Pretty sure that would have been before I got into BW (though not long before) so I've either forgotten it/never saw it. Only Boxer vs Didi8 game I halfway remember was the one on Legacy of Char, but I don't think that was it.
On a more on-topic note, looks like I'm running behind on every result I post, so I think I'll leave it to those quicker on the draw (I don't recognize most of the names, so TLPD's kicking my ass). Cheers, guys!
'Damn IdrA could have advanced, Shuttle was the toughest opponent since Really lost in the first round ! Can you say something about the games greg? T.T
On April 02 2009 15:01 G.s)NarutO wrote: 'Damn IdrA could have advanced, Shuttle was the toughest opponent since Really lost in the first round ! Can you say something about the games greg? T.T
mediocre shuttle harass into fast arbiter and my macro wasnt good enough for the most part missing depots and stuff kinda dissapointing
On April 02 2009 14:11 maareek wrote: @JWD: To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, I imagine so because it's boxer and he probably did something crazy that made for a fun game but didn't quite work out, but just because it was a big upset/fan favorite/etc. doesn't mean it'll be shown. There's lots of games to be covered and some have to miss the cut. We may get one and not the other, or neither, I'd be a little surprised if we get both.
Boxer's cheese never fails.
Something crazy doesn't have to be cheese. Medic blind ring a bell? ;(
Ah yeah, he lost that one, didn't he? Was it an official game though?
The only other failure I can think of was the base lift vs Yellow, and it was still successful at confusing the hell out of him. :p
Yeah he lost that one; don't think it was official game, no. He also lost that epic TvP vs JF 2(?) seasons or so ago on Troy from ICCup where he went medic blind. I don't think I've ever seen him do that and win, actually. Not that it really matters who eliminates who, we all know who wins when a move like that is pulled off.
That base lift was one of the greatest things ever. Everybody remembers that, but nobody remembers yellow winning. Story of Yellow's career, actually...
Didn't he go Medic+Blind vs Didi8 in the WCG and won?
Hmm, possible, although I don't remember seeing it. Pretty sure that would have been before I got into BW (though not long before) so I've either forgotten it/never saw it. Only Boxer vs Didi8 game I halfway remember was the one on Legacy of Char, but I don't think that was it.
Keep truckin Rostam, you're translating faster than I can anyways at this late hour. I'm gonna stay around for the end of these afternoon groups, then I'm gonna have to leave. I'll keep the OP updated until then.
These tiers are probably completely wrong but meh. God tier: Jaedong, Bisu, Flash Top tier: fantasy, iris, by.hero High tier: yellow, free, sea, Hwasin, Much, Canata Middle tier: The other 12 people
I would say, "all those 12 players are probably going to make it", but the chance of surviving seems like it has a lot to do with whether or not they can dodge the top players.
If the player they play are random, someone good like iris can easily get eliminated if they hit Jaedong and Bisu for instance.
Only two players from the previous MSL can land in the same group with each other scwizard, so Iris doesn't have to worry about being in a group with both Jaedong/Bisu.
On April 02 2009 15:28 maareek wrote: I assume by the lack of posts that there still hasn't been a stream found for the broadcasted games? So non-koreans are pretty much SOL on this one?
Yeah, looking like we're gonna have to wait for the VODs.
On April 02 2009 15:25 p4NDemik wrote: Only two players from the previous MSL can land in the same group with each other scwizard, so Iris doesn't have to worry about being in a group with both Jaedong/Bisu.
But I thought they were all from the previous MSL, that's why they were all seeded for survivor.
Hmm, also does that means 12 people from the prelims are guaranteed to advance?
On April 02 2009 15:25 p4NDemik wrote: Only two players from the previous MSL can land in the same group with each other scwizard, so Iris doesn't have to worry about being in a group with both Jaedong/Bisu.
But I thought they were all from the previous MSL, that's why they were all seeded for survivor.
Hmm, also does that means 12 people from the prelims are guaranteed to advance?
MST Groups Work like so: 2 players out from previous MSL 2 players in from prelims
No one is guaranteed an advance, all I was saying is that it's impossible to have more than 2 of the seeded players in the same MST group.
On April 02 2009 15:25 p4NDemik wrote: Only two players from the previous MSL can land in the same group with each other scwizard, so Iris doesn't have to worry about being in a group with both Jaedong/Bisu.
But I thought they were all from the previous MSL, that's why they were all seeded for survivor.
Hmm, also does that means 12 people from the prelims are guaranteed to advance?
MST Groups Work like so: 2 players out from previous MSL 2 players in from prelims
No one is guaranteed an advance, all I was saying is that it's impossible to have more than 2 of the seeded players in the same MST group.
On April 02 2009 15:36 scwizard wrote: Where can I get a VOD of that last thing from pimpest plays where sigamari (I think it is) loses to dark templar?
you're lost.....go to tlpd and look for that player..there's a list of the matches he played there.
On April 02 2009 15:36 scwizard wrote: Where can I get a VOD of that last thing from pimpest plays where sigamari (I think it is) loses to dark templar?
you're lost.....go to tlpd and look for that player..there's a list of the matches he played there.
Yeah, I saw the list of matches, but none of them had VODs.
On April 02 2009 15:41 lokiM wrote: some people are streaming it from afreeca, right now the guy who's streaming mbc on my stream is showing kkong vs july
On April 02 2009 15:36 scwizard wrote: Where can I get a VOD of that last thing from pimpest plays where sigamari (I think it is) loses to dark templar?
you're lost.....go to tlpd and look for that player..there's a list of the matches he played there.
Yeah, I saw the list of matches, but none of them had VODs.
On April 02 2009 15:41 lokiM wrote: some people are streaming it from afreeca, right now the guy who's streaming mbc on my stream is showing kkong vs july
Link to stream?
you need afreeca player and tor and proxifier running a korean proxy, theres a couple guides using Tor just use search
The maps are from the tail end of the last MSL, and considering how many zerg there were then I'd say that the maps are probably responsible for Zerg over Protoss.
Shines TvP and TvT are pretty solid, not to suprising to beat Best, especially considering Best's level of play. Tis a shame casy couldnt go through 2 protoss players, considering the maps especially.
BeSt goes out to the KTF pick up, Shine? Looks like practice with Flash (and KTF's $) is paying off. Also, lol @ a player named Britney in group 4, who needs to get in touch with Spear and create the best 2v2 team ever.
Wow nice that Peace made it, I've been playing with the guy 2 years ago or such when I was in Hu. He was already damn sicko back then, but I didn't see his name for a while. Great job tho!
On April 02 2009 16:59 ret wrote: normally this many zerg is good, but we need at least a couple of protoss for some epic zvp matches.. I wish I could see these games somehow >.<
its streaming on afreeca, but ofc not all the games.. i wish they would release reps for these.
Shine should be able to win Tester since Tester's a noob, and Puma kinda sucked it up at PGL IIRC, so, a very probable 8/8 Zergs for the afternoon qualifiers? =D
On April 02 2009 17:04 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Shine should be able to win Tester since Tester's a noob, and Puma kinda sucked it up at PGL IIRC, so, a very probably 8/8 Zergs for the afternoon qualifiers? =D
Poor protoss, lol. If you check tlpd, outside of obvious top 6 P (with best sucking hard), there are hordes of terran and zergs after that and like 2-3 protoss in the next top 30. Protoss as a race is doing absolutely terrible.
geumchi will have a tough group with skyhigh, mujuk has to be the favorite in 23 (sorry reach fans), rock is a master of qualifiers + has an easy group, movie will have to get through baby i'm sure, and pusan has a pretty good group draw as well
On April 02 2009 18:07 captainwafflos wrote: do these matches count towards players' elo rankings? dumb question
if i'm not mistaken...
theoretically they should because the matches are kespa sanctioned, but TLPD only calculates ELO based off of televised games (otherwise known as A-matches).
On April 02 2009 18:07 captainwafflos wrote: do these matches count towards players' elo rankings? dumb question
if i'm not mistaken...
theoretically they should because the matches are kespa sanctioned, but TLPD only calculates ELO based off of televised games (otherwise known as A-matches).
Surprises: 1) Crazy-hydra Awesome!! Hanbit zergs fighting! That and this guy has THE BEST MUTA MICRO IVE EVER SEEN jesus :O!! 2) Tossgirl Ro4!! about fucking time! 3) Hyun FUCK YEAAAa Neo-July hwaiting 4) han Fuck yeaaaaa! Next season MSL kkk
On April 02 2009 18:44 Last Romantic wrote: You realize Qoo)Max is so bad he went 1:1 against the Chinese in China vs Kor showmatch right...? ._.
oh good lord he lost a game! he must be fucking terrible
In comparison to other progamers, sure?
Whatever happened to your faith in the Korean progamer vs Chinese progamer matchup?
what does that have to do with anything one game maybe he is terrible. but losing one game in a for-fun showmatch is just about as meaningless as you can get.
On April 02 2009 18:44 Last Romantic wrote: You realize Qoo)Max is so bad he went 1:1 against the Chinese in China vs Kor showmatch right...? ._.
oh good lord he lost a game! he must be fucking terrible
In comparison to other progamers, sure?
Whatever happened to your faith in the Korean progamer vs Chinese progamer matchup?
what does that have to do with anything one game maybe he is terrible. but losing one game in a for-fun showmatch is just about as meaningless as you can get.
your exchange with grinq about that one Chinese zerg you played makes me think otherwise of your assessment of the worth of one game.
:D
though yeah, it's too limited a sample to actually say anything conclusively. the replay did look rather ... ugly... to my admittedly ignorant eyes~
4 so far for KTF good for us MagicN fans! 2 lost in finals as well(Lucifer and FireFist). God if Reach is the only toss and Medusa is in the map pool wtf. Reach and Yellow fighting!
Some of these results are mindboggling. I went to this briefly after work and there were a few players sitting outside looking crushed. GGplay did an awesome job considering he was quite obviously sick (he was wearing a Bisu ninja mask lol) Also Skyhigh scared the crap out of me by hiding behind the door and popping out of nowhere. Oh and finally - I saw Cloud for the first time since he moved to ACE, he bowed and I walked past by accident - oops. Way to greet the player I've known the longest -_-;;;;
On April 02 2009 19:21 Naib wrote: Justin should beat GosI[Flying] and skyhigh, and lose to YellOw in the finals (After YellOw beats Guemchi of course).
On April 02 2009 19:19 NeverGG wrote: Some of these results are mindboggling. I went to this briefly after work and there were a few players sitting outside looking crushed. GGplay did an awesome job considering he was quite obviously sick (he was wearing a Bisu ninja mask lol) Also Skyhigh scared the crap out of me by hiding behind the door and popping out of nowhere. Oh and finally - I saw Cloud for the first time since he moved to ACE, he bowed and I walked past by accident - oops. Way to greet the player I've known the longest -_-;;;;
HAHA Skyhigh is so adorable!! He seems like he'd be shy... ahhahah. I'm guessing you guys are familiar/comfortable with each other?
On April 02 2009 19:19 Naib wrote: I doubt that Reach will beat Child, if MuJuK couldn't...
But here's hoping that I'm wrong.
MuJuk...? This is Reach in MSL prelims:
On August 07 2006 15:44 Rekrul wrote: At MBC Trials I raped some terran round one. I was feeling pumped and ready for round 2 vs. Reach.
I was then walking towards him and he was walking towards me and we made eye contact, he didn't look away, neither did I. I felt the power of the mantoss. There was nothing I could do. He was Reach. I was the first one to break the eye contact. I knew what was coming.
On April 02 2009 18:44 Last Romantic wrote: You realize Qoo)Max is so bad he went 1:1 against the Chinese in China vs Kor showmatch right...? ._.
oh good lord he lost a game! he must be fucking terrible
In comparison to other progamers, sure?
Whatever happened to your faith in the Korean progamer vs Chinese progamer matchup?
what does that have to do with anything one game maybe he is terrible. but losing one game in a for-fun showmatch is just about as meaningless as you can get.
though yeah, it's too limited a sample to actually say anything conclusively.
On April 02 2009 19:21 Naib wrote: Justin should beat GosI[Flying] and skyhigh, and lose to YellOw in the finals (After YellOw beats Guemchi of course).
lol what
Lolwut group 25.
Edit: I also caught what you wrote LR, can't deny anymore!
And wtf, how did Saint lose to n.die_soo, darned ZvZ
Reach (expected though, sadly)
Now, with YellOw, half my wishes are completed - now Justin needs to beat GosI[flying], luck out vs Skyhigh and fail miserably vs YellOw, and it's all goooooodddddd
I used to really hate zerg, but they are my second favorite race now, so the more that get through, the better. Shame I can't get an Infested Terran Icon.
ZvZ can get old fast though, so survivor will be rough to watch.
I believe in Zerg, the race almighty, creator of Mutalisks and Zerglings I believe in YellOw, its greatest hero, our Lord He was conceived by the power of [NC] and born of the Swarm. He suffered under Pokerstars, was a fish, donkey, and/or sucker. He descended into bankruptcy. On joining ACE he rose again. He ascended into the Air Force and is seated at the right hand of Reach the Protoss Almighty. He will come again to judge the champions and the scrubs. I believe in the Holy YellOw, his daum cafe, his fans' communion, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of SC skills, and the Kong everlasting. Amen.
edit: He'll be facing a T in the finals. Either Justin or Skyhigh.
On April 02 2009 20:09 Last Romantic wrote: I believe in Zerg, the race almighty, creator of Mutalisks and Zerglings I believe in YellOw, its greatest hero, our Lord He was conceived by the power of [NC] and born of the Swarm. He suffered under Pokerstars, was a fish, donkey, and/or sucker. He descended into bankruptcy. On joining ACE he rose again. He ascended into the Air Force and is seated at the right hand of Reach the Protoss Almighty. He will come again to judge the champions and the scrubs. I believe in the Holy YellOw, his daum cafe, his fans' communion, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of SC skills, and the Kong everlasting. Amen.
edit: He'll be facing a T in the finals. Either Justin or Skyhigh.
On April 02 2009 20:09 Last Romantic wrote: I believe in Zerg, the race almighty, creator of Mutalisks and Zerglings I believe in YellOw, its greatest hero, our Lord He was conceived by the power of [NC] and born of the Swarm. He suffered under Pokerstars, was a fish, donkey, and/or sucker. He descended into bankruptcy. On joining ACE he rose again. He ascended into the Air Force and is seated at the right hand of Reach the Protoss Almighty. He will come again to judge the champions and the scrubs. I believe in the Holy YellOw, his daum cafe, his fans' communion, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of SC skills, and the Kong everlasting. Amen.
edit: He'll be facing a T in the finals. Either Justin or Skyhigh.
I believe in Terran, what can I say, they have siege tanks.
Times are dark. The Emperor has fallen and foul Xenos rise all around us. But we shall remain strong, for he has not raised us to be fearful without his guiding hand. Nay, we are strong, even with the gods of the earth against us, we will stand behind our heroes' backs. Behind the Invincible Flash, and the Immortal NaDa. Behind the Legend Oov, and the Youthful Skyhigh. Behind the Innovative Fantasy and the Twins of Sea and Light. Behind the Prideful Firebathero, the Rising HiYa, the Genius ForGG.
Times are dark, but they shall light our path. Give us hope until that day. That glorious day when he returns to us, melting Zerg with the warm glow of Nukes and slicing through Protoss with wondrous Dropships. Until then, we shall fight! Bring glory to the Terran race in His name! To battle, my brothers and sisters, destroy them all! FOR THE TERRAN! FOR THE EMPEROR!
On April 02 2009 20:18 IdrA wrote: this is really bizzare given the map pool byzantium is absolutely terrible for zerg in both matchups and medusa isnt exactly bad pvz
I guess map advantage isn't everything. By the way, I love you! Keep playing awesome games! -Your biased fan boy
On April 02 2009 20:32 Signus wrote: Times are dark. The Emperor has fallen and foul Xenos rise all around us. But we shall remain strong, for he has not raised us to be fearful without his guiding hand. Nay, we are strong, even with the gods of the earth against us, we will stand behind our heroes' backs. Behind the Invincible Flash, and the Immortal NaDa. Behind the Legend Oov, and the Youthful Skyhigh. Behind the Innovative Fantasy and the Twins of Sea and Light. Behind the Prideful Firebathero, the Rising HiYa, the Genius ForGG.
Times are dark, but they shall light our path. Give us hope until that day. That glorious day when he returns to us, melting Zerg with the warm glow of Nukes and slicing through Protoss with wondrous Dropships. Until then, we shall fight! Bring glory to the Terran race in His name! To battle, my brothers and sisters, destroy them all! FOR THE TERRAN! FOR THE EMPEROR!
On April 02 2009 20:18 IdrA wrote: this is really bizzare given the map pool byzantium is absolutely terrible for zerg in both matchups and medusa isnt exactly bad pvz
I guess map advantage isn't everything. By the way, I love you! Keep playing awesome games! -Your biased fan boy
well when results are this skewed towards one race theres not much it can be besides maps or some kind of revolutionary strategy, or a massive coincidence.
Ok guys, if Reach is the only fucking protoss from all 25 groups who advance, then all the other protoss fanboys have to accept that the Mantoss is the only true protoss.
On April 02 2009 20:26 Rostam wrote: Rock has been playing that series for...3 hours almost? Is that even possible?
theres not enough computers for all 8-9 grouops to play at once, so a couple of the first round matches cant be played until people are eliminated. his match could be one of those.
On April 02 2009 20:34 MasterReY wrote: Ok guys, if Reach is the only fucking protoss from all 25 groups who advance, then all the other protoss fanboys have to accept that the Mantoss is the only true protoss.
On April 02 2009 20:18 IdrA wrote: this is really bizzare given the map pool byzantium is absolutely terrible for zerg in both matchups and medusa isnt exactly bad pvz
I guess map advantage isn't everything. By the way, I love you! Keep playing awesome games! -Your biased fan boy
well when results are this skewed towards one race theres not much it can be besides maps or some kind of revolutionary strategy, or a massive coincidence.
I guess Zergs learned how to deal with Protoss players like they used to do. Perhaps maps are pretty good vs terrans overall.
What I'm hoping for is that a few names out of this huge pool of Zerg come out as really strong players to add to the ranks. Last year, you could probably count the number of really good Zerg players on one hand, but I'm starting to see a bunch rise up.
Idra is showing clear statistical improvement. He's losing 2-1 now instead of 2-0 Pretty soon he might start getting that extra very important little number and we might see him on TV , past the 128th round even
His opponent this time was actually pretty damn good. The fact that he took a game(although I don't know the details but sense its idra im guessing it was standard) is promising.
On April 02 2009 20:45 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Idra is showing clear statistical improvement. He's losing 2-1 now instead of 2-0 Pretty soon he might start getting that extra very important little number and we might see him on TV , past the 128th round even
His opponent this time was actually pretty damn good. The fact that he took a game(although I don't know the details but sense its idra im guessing it was standard) is promising.
Well, IdrA has pretty damn good mechanics, but he said he forgot to build depots, and that's why he host.
IMO, he just needs to improve his decision making and will be top tier player
BTW, is it just me, or everybody in the first post has a Zerg icon?
On April 02 2009 20:45 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Idra is showing clear statistical improvement. He's losing 2-1 now instead of 2-0 Pretty soon he might start getting that extra very important little number and we might see him on TV , past the 128th round even
His opponent this time was actually pretty damn good. The fact that he took a game(although I don't know the details but sense its idra im guessing it was standard) is promising.
Well, IdrA has pretty damn good mechanics, but he said he forgot to build depots, and that's why he host.
IMO, he just needs to improve his decision making and will be top tier player
BTW, is it just me, or everybody in the first post has a Zerg icon?
OP should edit and remove that "joke" with all races as zerg, hard to see which race got through. Manner up protoss (his icon) :D
On April 02 2009 20:59 Conquest101 wrote: Seriously.... Jaedong must have a raging hard-on right now. He's probably dancing in the streets.
This sucks for Savior though, as ZvZ is probably his worst matchup right now.
Well, it's going to be virtually irrelevant since most of the Zergs who qualified are a cut below the Terran and Protoss qualifiers so we'll probably end up with a fairly even split among the 8 players that get out of this group of 24.
Also, current Savior is one of those players who is a heavy favorite in ZvZ against lesser players, and a big underdog in ZvZ against better players. Every Zerg that's qualified today is probably still an underdog against the Maestro, with the exception of Effort, ironically.
On April 02 2009 21:01 Ace wrote: He still has S-class ZvZ I don't see why it would matter that much.
Eh, is that referring to Savior? Honestly, I wouldn't say he has S-Class anything right now, and I'm a Savior fanboy.
T.T
His series vs Zero was painful to watch. On the other hand, his games vs P and T lately show promise. Hence my statement.
Also, ZvZ is really volatile matchup, so it just feels like it'd be better if it were ZvP or ZvT.
And yeah, I know that lots of these zergs will get raped next round, but undoubtedly there will be MORE zergs because of this, just depends on how many.
On April 02 2009 21:05 Scaramanga wrote: what the, rock won 2-0 but the games took like 3 hours
There were probably technical errors or something. That's what happened in the Shine[kal] vs. Tester game... they had to have a rematch for one of the games because the computer acted up, and then they couldn't find the saved game file... etc.
Can you imagine how fucking epic it would be if Yellow came out of no where and won an MSL? lmao. MSL's ratings would like triple at least for this starleague
On April 02 2009 21:19 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Can you imagine how fucking epic it would be if YellOw came out of no Where and won an MSL? lmao. MSL's ratings would like triple at least for this starleague
Rather see sKyHigh win. edit: And by won, you mean silver right?
On April 02 2009 21:19 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Can you imagine how fucking epic it would be if Yellow came out of no where and won an MSL? lmao. MSL's ratings would like triple at least for this starleague
That would be sad for new generation players, showing that they haven't improved.
On April 02 2009 21:18 maybenexttime wrote: Excuse me, where can I find the stream? I know asking here is technically not allowed, but I can't find one neither on YY nor Daum. ;/
On April 02 2009 21:29 captainwafflos wrote: spyfire, i think you're the Only person in this thread who was rooting for sKyHigh~
I was also the Only person who thought fantasy would 3:0 Bisu. (That I know of)
congraulations, nostradamus.
i don't think there's much debate that skyhigh was the heavy favorite here. rooting for him in this match is a bit like rooting for goliath over david. that said, i like skyhigh and i'm not sad he won, though it'd be nice to see more old players making a comeback
Wow, protoss got destroyed. They had medusa, byzantium, and destination is kind of decent winnable map. I would expect such results only from bo3 on map like rh3 exclusively.
I was more disappointed with July getting knocked out early. July has been playing really well these days, which can not be said of these other oldies, like yellow or boxer or what-have-you.
Also, anyone knows if tossgirl tossed another chair or sign or something when she lost?
I wonder how the 9 protoss in survivor will fare. If Bisu doesn't make it then no one will heh.
Also this shows KTF really deserved the winners league, it just so happens they ran into Jaedong at a bad time. Flash deserves a win against Jaedong so much more than Skyhigh does.
On April 02 2009 23:32 scwizard wrote: Fall of the protoss lol.
I wonder how the 9 protoss in survivor will fare. If Bisu doesn't make it then no one will heh.
Also this shows KTF really deserved the winners league, it just so happens they ran into Jaedong at a bad time. Flash deserves a win against Jaedong so much more than Skyhigh does.
None of them deserved the win, cuz the map is exceptionally imbalaced. But yeah, Flash winning would make more sense. But on the other hand Skyhigh totally exposed OZ as a crappy team aside from their ace, maybe it will affect the team somehow, roster changes / players training dedication.
On April 02 2009 23:30 Kacas wrote: oh no...boxer yellow and reach..ALMOST! =(
and im afraid map makers will try to " balance" again and make imba maps for z.
I'm already able to see it. 3-player map with a neutral building blocking you from your nat, a cliff behind your main, a gasless nat and a far-away third base.
On April 02 2009 23:21 whatusername wrote: CJ trio oh yeah
just another question, do all progamers get to participate in these preliminaries?
All the progamers that aren't already seeded into the MST or MSL are able to play. They may opt to not play for whatever reason, but they're all eligible.
Movie/EffOrt/sKyHigh rising! CJ's next generation fighting! Can't wait to see them in their respective MST groups.
On April 02 2009 23:39 Shikyo wrote: I'm already able to see it. 3-player map with a neutral building blocking you from your nat, a cliff behind your main, a gasless nat and a far-away third base.
Somehow I can still see Jaedong winning on a map like this.
Boxer, Reach, Yellow, Anytime, and to a lesser extent, Tossgirl. I was rooting for at least one of them to pass through, but alas...my heart was broken...
Sucks that Saint lost in the final match and that Pusan got knocked out by a nobody. But I'm glad Hyun took out Mind and I'm really suprised that Crazy-Hydra owned his group like that wow.
On April 03 2009 02:00 Hot_Bid wrote: Skyhigh, Effort, Movie
yessss
This has been an amazing offline qualifiers!!! Effort, Skyhigh and Movie winning... The swarm owning it... The Protoss massacre... The all-Z afternoon group... Just awesome!!!
On April 03 2009 02:30 SkelA wrote: dear god zerg owning it hard and july didnt qualify woot!
BOXER ALMOST FUCKING MADE IT. FUCKING GANZI backho..almost got there who the fuck is Peace? Casy loses to another toss By.Great loses to crazy-hydra (i'm counting on you to win it all man) 910 beat Anytime..>.< Clay beat PuSan Oversky & IdRa...:O ROCK AND REACH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO thezerg..and yellow
oh yea, it is a success that rumble and soo qualified, forgot that. So it looks like there was a possibility of 4 SKT zergs passing. 2 others lost in final games.
This doesn't make any sense. I thought Destination, Byzantium 2, and Medusa were all pretty balanced ZvP. And Medusa at least is really skewed towards Protoss. How come there aren't any protoss?
Wow. 20 zergs, 19 terrans and 9 protoss. Besides the ridiculous amount of potential ZvZ, I don't give a damn about any of the qualifiers, except maybe GGplay and Lomo. Definitely the wrong people qualifying. Can't say I'm looking forward to this.
NOOOOOOO BACKHO :S On another note, was pretty surprised when I got hom, clicked on afternoon winners and bam only red -.- Sure I'm a zerg fan, but only vs other races, ava is pretty underwhelming to me most of the time. Hopefully most bad zergs go out early in the rounds so we get more racially balanced brackets later on.
LOL hahaha Pure was the only toss to make it ;D Bearly got in too lol. I didnt think any got in as I was looking at the results. He's gonna get eliminated sooner or later though.
On April 03 2009 09:29 Grobyc wrote: LOL hahaha Pure was the only toss to make it ;D Bearly got in too lol. I didnt think any got in as I was looking at the results. He's gonna get eliminated sooner or later though.
On April 03 2009 09:29 Grobyc wrote: LOL hahaha Pure was the only toss to make it ;D Bearly got in too lol. I didnt think any got in as I was looking at the results. He's gonna get eliminated sooner or later though.
Yes CJ trio!!! Noooo July, Anytime, Boxer, Reach, Yellow..........bleh........ Looks like Jaedong's going to be ripping a whole bunch of freshly hatched zergs in this MSL.
On April 03 2009 13:39 broz0rs wrote: jon747 starting to post these up as well
I was looking at them and saw that game 10 is set 3 of by.great vs Crazy-Hydra, and the video is 24 min length. Was this game good? It's a 20+ min ZvZ...
it's Great vs Sz.Hungry (Protoss), Hungry is a recent addition to WeMade. I think he did alright considering this was his first match as an official pro, hopefully he can show more in the future :O
On April 03 2009 13:46 littlechava wrote: it's Great vs Sz.Hungry (Protoss), Hungry is a recent addition to WeMade. I think he did alright considering this was his first match as an official pro, hopefully he can show more in the future :O
Yeah, sorry about that... I just completely misread the description...
Just to let you guys know, the commentators were saying that they needed to get the permissions from the teams to broadcast the offline preliminary matches, so even if we wanted to watch specific matches, they could not broadcast some.
On April 03 2009 16:49 konadora wrote: Just to let you guys know, the commentators were saying that they needed to get the permissions from the teams to broadcast the offline preliminary matches, so even if we wanted to watch specific matches, they could not broadcast some.
On April 02 2009 15:04 IdrA wrote: [mediocre shuttle harass into fast arbiter and my macro wasnt good enough for the most part missing depots and stuff kinda dissapointing
mediocre shuttle harass means it didnt really do much and i said i played sloppy cuz i didnt have much time to prep after gom, not because of concentration
On April 03 2009 21:12 IdrA wrote: mediocre shuttle harass means it didnt really do much and i said i played sloppy cuz i didnt have much time to prep after gom, not because of concentration
Eye of the tiger, idra!!
When is the OGN offline prelims? Win that instead!
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