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Smix
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Stork thumbed down TOTM while Flash thumbed down *gasp* Medusa.
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Been waiting for one of these so I can say : Lee Young Ho ALL-KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
No shame from copying 
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
On March 30 2009 17:32 GTR wrote:
Stork thumbed down TOTM while Flash thumbed down *gasp* Medusa.
Wtf lol I thought Medusa was Flash's map.
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Cheering for Stork. Birdtoss all-kill FTW!
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Hwasin for an all kill 
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On March 30 2009 17:36 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 17:32 GTR wrote:
Stork thumbed down TOTM while Flash thumbed down *gasp* Medusa. Wtf lol I thought Medusa was Flash's map.
Probably did it out of consideration for the other guys on the terran team. Would seem a little off if it came down to game 7 and it was on Medusa. Not to me, cause I'm a toss fan, but to less enlightened people.
Edit at ITW: losing, most likely.
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is awesome32274 Posts
lol what is Hwasin doing vs P :p
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
On March 30 2009 17:43 IntoTheWow wrote:
lol what is Hwasin doing vs P :p
Yea, people probably couldn't find another Terran so they chose Hwasin. Could have picked Fantasy instead though >___>
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sAw
965 Posts
On March 30 2009 17:43 IntoTheWow wrote:
lol what is Hwasin doing vs P :p
Yeah, fantasy or skyhigh would have been a better choice overall. But hey, Zergs didn't have JD...
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
On March 30 2009 17:47 sAw wrote:Yeah, fantasy or skyhigh would have been a better choice overall. But hey, Zergs didn't have JD...
They already decided the lineup before the + Show Spoiler [CJ vs Hwaseung finals spoiler] +epic reverse all-kill rape by Skyhigh
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If Stork beats Flash, 4-0 is so likely with Destination, Andromeda, and Coliseum coming up.
Here's hoping the terrans put up a good fight.
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will daumsports be streaming?
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Great, I'm looking forward to this, this should be the best race battle
PvT fo' life
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51450 Posts
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Cyon sure is rich, adveritising "cookie" and "lollipop" with Big Bang
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51450 Posts
i want a cyon or anycall phone :>
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Russian Federation376 Posts
Anybody, direct daum link plz? If it exists.
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On March 30 2009 18:02 GTR wrote:
i want a cyon or anycall phone :>
Have you heard the Lollipop song with Big Bang and female Big Bang made especially for the cyon phone?
Hella addicting
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sAw
965 Posts
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers: wow, with this protoss team, honestly, an allkill is capable by any of them. with skt1 and samsungkhan protoss, i really wonder how the terran will be able to get even 1 kill~ i bet the terran prepared more than usual for this battle.
announcers: these are the terran~ lately terran don't look good against protoss. last time leta finished it so quickly and flash didn't get to play. so this time, flash is starting - will he be able to get an allkill?? (AW AT FLASH AND STORK SHAKING HANDS SO CUTE)
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Daum is not streaming this it seems, so only vlc is available.
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On March 30 2009 18:02 toshi wrote:3 sec and freeze ;/
Working smoothly for me.
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Hungary11291 Posts
On March 30 2009 17:43 IntoTheWow wrote:
lol what is Hwasin doing vs P :p
Hmmwell.
1) They picked entire teams, not matchup specific.
2) I would argue that Hwasin is actually quite decent against P. His record is misleading, but he usually gave Bisu a run for his money a while back and nowadays his game against BeSt on RotK was a piece of art, timing-wise.
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At last we get to see Flash play in this. I wonder how his form is holding up.
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hard to believe stork used to be really bm
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On March 30 2009 18:05 datscilly wrote:
At last we get to see Flash play in this. I wonder how his form is holding up.
I am afraid that Flash is either going to play very very well due to his recent off time, or his confidence is going to be shot and he'll play very poorly.
I miss you Flash 
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tv ants works decently, just 2-3 min delay like usual
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On March 30 2009 17:43 IntoTheWow wrote:
lol what is Hwasin doing vs P :p
Hey hwasin has good tvp!
Hwasin has good good tvp its just abit inconsistent. ;;
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thanks for any translations smix! =p
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Could anyone translate briefly what are they saying?
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On March 30 2009 18:08 myzael wrote:
Could anyone translate briefly what are they saying?
Think smix will pretty shortly, she's like blazing fast with these things.
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CA10828 Posts
i love hwasin's tvp style. don't hate!
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I see 2 white peoplein the crowd.
edit : On March 30 2009 18:10 Orbifold wrote:
I nominate Hwasin for best hair in professional starcraft.
SEX
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I nominate Hwasin for best hair in professional starcraft.
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On March 30 2009 18:09 LosingID8 wrote:
i love hwasin's tvp style. don't hate!
high five
Leta looks really adorable like a chipmunk especially when he smiles
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never gets old
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers: right now, protoss have never won. what do you think about today?
bisu: last week we lost regretfully... so we practiced more this week.
announcers: will you pick hwasin today?
bisu: i do want to play him... but i do want to get the other terran as well
announcers: you're known for not doing well against bisu...
hwasin: i have to play him more so i can get rid of that stigma...
announcers: do you have confidence if you play?
hwasin: yea.. if i play him we'll see
announcers: you lost to jangbi in the round of 8... people were saying "nada is gone~" even though you are the liviing legend.. what do you say?
nada: i'm close to jangbi so i'm not holding a grudge or anything. i just hope today.. even though it's going to be hard that we can work hard and just do well.
announcers: right now your protoss stats aren't so good~ what do you think of those playres?
nada: if i were a coach i would wnat to have all of them~
announcers: what do you say to fans?
nada: i will work hard~
announcers: nada says you guys are tight so he holds no grudge. what do you think of him?
jangbi: i'm really scared of nada...
announcers: right now your terran play among hte protoss is the best (in percentage) what do oyu think of terran tehse days?
announcers: did you not know that you are doing well ?
jangbi: i dont really focus on stats and things like that so i wasn't aware..
announcers: any player you are partiularly scared of?
jangbi: no one (Everyone goes woah~)
announcers: jangbi is seriously good in all matchups.. his percentage against terran is over 70%..
announcers: against the zerg you did really well.. is there a player today you want to play?
leta: jangbi
announcers: why is it that when you play jangbi you just lose and lose and lose and lose? (everyone laughs)
leta: i will get revenge today. with our terran team we will work hard to beat the protoss~
announcers: now lets hear from best. you also have good terran stats over 70%. though lately it seems your play is weakening.. how are you doing lately?
best: i'm working hard..
announcers: you haven't won yet right?
best: yes.. i ahvent.
announcers: a player you want to beat?
best: nada.
announcers: wow so many peopel want to play nada~ why?
best: i reallyr espect him so i want to play him. though lately i havent been doing so well, i will revive my image through my agmes today.
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China3334 Posts
GTR this makes me LOL literally in the OFFICE!!! >_<
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hpoly crap
Smix's post
Ah to add detail to one part. When the announcer asked how are you doing to best, best answered with im preparing for the preliminary rounds
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers: right now flash has become the terran on break~ he hasn't played much at all recently, so it'd be great if he can revive his image through his games today~
AW AT THE PICTURE OF FLASH winning Bacchus in 08!!! so adorable hahaha
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Impressive speed smix O_o TY for this one and waiting for more.
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thank you for the translations!
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
best ought to start doing something!!!
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers talking about how stork lost to leta back in the day on tau cross.. so therefore he has bad memories on this map.
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Thanks loadz to Smix! So fast
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which channel is on the game ? OGN or MBC ?
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51450 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:16 Smix wrote:
announcers talking about how stork lost to leta back in the day on tau cross.. so therefore he has bad memories on this map.
that game was fucking amazing from leta, the game that shot him into the spotlight
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Oh well, none of the streams work enjoyably for me, so long then, I'll wait for vods((((
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On March 30 2009 18:17 entrails wrote:
awesome smix
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
right now flash is having issues with his computer so there's a delay
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On March 30 2009 18:16 Smix wrote:
announcers talking about how stork lost to leta back in the day on tau cross.. so therefore he has bad memories on this map.
OH! i remember that game. it was leta's debut game. 1fact 1starport. great harrass led leta to win.
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On March 30 2009 18:17 538 wrote:Oh well, none of the streams work enjoyably for me, so long then, I'll wait for vods ((((
Just download tv ants, and watch the ogn channel. 2-3 min delay from live, but still almost live =P
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On March 30 2009 18:17 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 18:16 Smix wrote:
announcers talking about how stork lost to leta back in the day on tau cross.. so therefore he has bad memories on this map. that game was fucking amazing from leta, the game that shot him into the spotlight
crazy sick game
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:17 darkemperor wrote:
which channel is on the game ? OGN or MBC ?
ogn
:o they nerf'd ,medusa
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Talking about map balance for round 4.
OGN: "The maps for Round 4 doesn't look good for terran."
Nada: "Yes... i can't build turrets.. the mutas... omg help me~"
haha cute
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Russian Federation376 Posts
Which one TvAnts do you use? Because yaoyuan'ish lag as hell for me.
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rofl ive seen terrans complain about imbalance but the first time ive seen a protoss(bisu) complain about terran.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
OGN: "Bisu, how do you feel about maps?"
Bisu: "They should make the center unbuildable, remove cliffs, add minerals, make the center larger, etc. Maps nowadays are so hard for protoss T.T"
OGN: "Best, what about you?"
Best: "Same, nat only has 6 minerals, sim-city is way too hard, hard to fast expand, etc. It's really tough."
OGN: "How tough?"
Best: "I want to die.. T.T"
OGN: "Haha, any words for the mapmakers?"
Best: "At least add high grounds for us and remove cliffs "
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers: nada- in the race battle, terran are winning zerg. but with protoss, it seems it's really hard
nada: yea.. i think terran are getting a lot of stress because of maps. yes.. please can you let us build turrets? (referring to medusa i think) please~ save us~
announcers: nada is saying "save us", let's listen to bisu. do you think that maps for terran is too burdensome? should map makers save them?
bisu: terran, without concern to maps, as a race is imba so .. maps need to be made that way.
announcers:
bisu: don't let them build maps, make center bigger, (listing goes on and on)
announcers: you're so harsh!!
bisu: i actually think that protoss are doing worse because of maps... they're so influenced by it
announcers: do you agree with bisu best?
best: i think mapmakers are building maps to kill protoss
announcers: what map are you talking about?
best: (I MISSED THIS)
announcers: is it that bad best?
best: yes... please it's so hard...
announcers: what about you jangbi?
jangbi: i think if youer 'a toss user you have the same thoughts.
announcers: nada is saying, "save terran!"
jangbi: even if terran say terran is bad, the balance saves them..
announcers: so for protoss agains tterran, what do you think should b odne?
jangbi: more expansions... no higher land..
announcers: if terran stats are over 60%, but for you, for 3 of these palyers, you have over 70%. wow, i bet the terran must feel upset that you who are so good are talking like this
well the issue was fixed~ here we go
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
OGN: Jangbi, what do you think about the map concepts?
Jangbi: Nothing much.. just so-so.
OGN: If you have 60% winrate against a race, it's good. But you guys have total over 70%, that's very good!
Game starting now...
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wooot start da gaems alrdy! I wanna see Flash in action!
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On March 30 2009 18:20 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
Which one TvAnts do you use? Because yaoyuan'ish lag as hell for me.
Just run the software instead of streaming it of their site. Then just select the channel OGN LIVE in the list. Takes a bit to load, but then you get good stream.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Wow loud cheer for Flash
Stork at 5
Flash at 1
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
tau cross
stork - bottom right
flash - top right
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i feel like we're seeing a disproportionate amount of white people lately
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Stork's PvT is over 80% when he's played over 50 PvTs. OGN commentators saying over 70% is already considered bonjwa-class, so... yeah. Stork? Lol.
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DO THESE POSITIONS REMIND YOU OF A CERTAIN GAME?!
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers talking about how flash showed regretful performances in the starleague and in the proleague recently so he needs to do well today to revive his image
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omgee the mms link lags like a beast. wont even work on vlc for me on vista
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Flash's SCV going right direction, Stork's probe isn't.
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On March 30 2009 18:25 GTR wrote:
DO THESE POSITIONS REMIND YOU OF A CERTAIN GAME?!
nada vs anytime
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Gate gas core for Stork, Flash getting his factory.
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51450 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:26 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 18:25 GTR wrote:
DO THESE POSITIONS REMIND YOU OF A CERTAIN GAME?! nada vs anytime
t1 vs p5 produces the awesomest games imo
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On March 30 2009 18:25 GTR wrote:
DO THESE POSITIONS REMIND YOU OF A CERTAIN GAME?!
which one?
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Russian Federation376 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:24 noth1n wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 18:20 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
Which one TvAnts do you use? Because yaoyuan'ish lag as hell for me. Just run the software instead of streaming it of their site. Then just select the channel OGN LIVE in the list. Takes a bit to load, but then you get good stream.
Tons of internets to you!
Thanks alot.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Stork doing a lot of damage with 1 probe, 1 lot and 1 dragoon. Kills quite a lot of marines and an scv. Loses only a zealot.
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Stork opts for early pressure, going with a zealot and a probe, trying to pick some marines. Now a dragoon joins the fight as more marines pop out.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Robotics going up for Stork, with expo finishing soon.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Stork trades 4 dragoons for 2 tanks.
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flash did the idra build ^^
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4 dragoons for 2 tanks. Good trade yes?
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Now two tanks finally deflecting the attack. Flash building his CC. But stork goes in and sniped two tanks, leaving only one. Robo supprt building.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:30 Solinren wrote:
4 dragoons for 2 tanks. Good trade yes?
No?
Flash pushing with 2 tanks, scv and vultures.
Stork should be getting 2nd expo soon.
Shuttle out, vulture's mine upgrade done.
Flash pushes very deeply with 3 marines 2 tanks 2vultures 1scv, forces Stork to pull all his probes. Mines killing a lot of units, Flash saves his 2 tanks lol.
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what a first game! so much action
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
fucking S-class micro ahmagad
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:30 Solinren wrote:
4 dragoons for 2 tanks. Good trade yes?
terrible trade btw
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Flash counters with 2 tank 3 marines and some vults, Stork struggling to defend, is forced to pull probes from his nat. He barely holds, but loses most of his forces.
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oh shit stork almost lost his shuttle
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
OMG
Shuttle has 3 hp left, Stork thought shuttle will explode so unloaded the reaver, triggering a mine, which almost exploded, but Stork loaded it back just in time, because the shuttle didn't die.
7 o clock expo completed.
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Reaver drop incoming, deflected by mines, as Stork barely saves his reaver form one.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Flash getting gas expo at 3.
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers: flash seems to be in a better position.. stokr needs to do something with taht shuttle~ those vultures just need to get probes, they are on a suicide mission for thoseh probes!
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Vulture harass kills a dozen probes at 7.
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arrrrrgh, transfering probes into a group of vultures = RAAAAAAGE
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Gols now out for Flash. Both takin their thirds. Vultures come in and kill quite a few probes at Storks third.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Cuts probe at 8 mineral expo, delaying third expo.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Templar archive coming up for Stork.
Flash building another CC at 3 to take 4.
Vulture kills probe going to 10 main, delaying another expo again.
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Flash putting up a 4th CC, looks like he's preparing to extend his expo/push.
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Citadel up, and expo at 8 is building for Stork. Flash preparing to expand towards his opponent, at the 4 o'clock expo. Both macroing up. Arbiters incoming.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Flash does a vulture drop at Stork's main, since his army is right beside the main. Imba positioning
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
flash is pulling way ahead in economy
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Vulture drop at main, killing more probes. denying the mining for a reasonable amount of time. Stor tries to harras Flash's fourth with a reaver, deflected.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Siege tank drop at 7 mineral-only, forcing a probe pull. Stork kills the tanks, but dropship escapes. Vessel out, EMP almost done.
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Flash seems to be getting dangerously close to having a mammoth army right outside of Stork's main. Stork is going to have to do something about this soon (maybe with his soon to be Arbiters).
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this seems about even to me!
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Cute tank drop at the boudaries of 10 o'clock main, anihilated by a reaver+goon in the shuttle. And the stream freezes -_-
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
flash can just A move watchhhhhhh
On March 30 2009 18:41 konadora wrote:Flash playing well with his own style, turtling and massing and upgrading
and harass like crazy while turtling
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streams pls. vlc hangs aft 3 secs for me. tvants not working too
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holy shit Flash's insane macro
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Stork fights a poor battle at a bridge, loses most of his army, Flash still has a lot of tanks alive.
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Flash has more tanks than Stork has probes
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:42 Irashi wrote:
streams pls. vlc hangs aft 3 secs for me. tvants not working too
Only those two streams.
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That's a formidable terran force right there.
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On March 30 2009 18:42 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 18:42 Irashi wrote:
streams pls. vlc hangs aft 3 secs for me. tvants not working too Only those two streams.
ur using which link?
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Flash preparing for possible recall, mass turrets. Huge terran metal ball sieging the bridges. Stork runs in, statising and kills some tanks, but is pushed back. And reapeat.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:43 Irashi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 18:42 konadora wrote:On March 30 2009 18:42 Irashi wrote:
streams pls. vlc hangs aft 3 secs for me. tvants not working too Only those two streams. ur using which link?
VLC.
Tanks are so imba
Dragoons melt into blue ice-cream.
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On March 30 2009 18:43 Irashi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 18:42 konadora wrote:On March 30 2009 18:42 Irashi wrote:
streams pls. vlc hangs aft 3 secs for me. tvants not working too Only those two streams. ur using which link?
I'm using http://www.yaoyuan.com/live.php the WMP(OGN) stream.
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Flash just rolling now. This game is over.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
why cant idra do this
flash played so beautifully
macro/harass
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Vultures destroying 11 expo, EMP hits 2 arbiters and a ton of goons.
On March 30 2009 18:44 Kentor wrote:
why cant idra do this
LOL
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yeah flash has this one in the bag it looks like
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Stork GGs, Flash TvP imba yes?
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On March 30 2009 18:44 Kentor wrote:
why cant idra do this
flash played so beautifully
macro/harass
Idra played great on Tau Cross last time actually.
You can also say "why can't <insert non-Flash Terran player here> do this"
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Secon natural of stork under siege, arbiter tribunal is going down. Mass probe rape at 11. Falsh knocking at Storks front door.
Stork gg's.
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On March 30 2009 18:44 Kentor wrote:
why cant idra do this
flash played so beautifully
macro/harass
oh shut up haha
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fuck this, way too laggy!
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On March 30 2009 18:47 Elsi wrote:
fuck this, way too laggy!
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nice!!! Flash picks Bisu!!! yay
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Thanks much for the VLC stream...
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On March 30 2009 18:44 Kentor wrote:
why cant idra do this
flash played so beautifully
macro/harass
why can't you do this?
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yeah seriously you can't compare people to flash, only gonna lead to disappointment
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Great game by Flash. He is so awesome.
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Everything I do lags to hell:-( YY and VLC. Any ideas how to not lag to hell? Its like 3 seconds then buffering.
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers: flash! you went into the booth before we even got a chance to interview you!
flash: hello~ this is ktf magicn's flash~ : )
announcers: you won well~ how do you feel?
flash: today i told myself if i just won the first game i could possibly all kill.. so i'm really happy.
announcers: you seem like your condition is good
flash: i feel like my play worked well like i practiced os i'm happy
announcers: who do you wnat to play?
flash: bisu hyung
announcers: ah~~~~~~ wow, taekbang you want to beat both~
flash: it's not like that, but recently i lost to him so i will pick those who i lost to most recently
announcers: bisu~ you've been showing good sides. how do you feel ?
bisu: flash did really well.. after seeing the game vs stork. i will work hard and win
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I can't get the stream to work. I want to see Flash!
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This is really just pick your poison ... Stork Bisu Best Jangbi, geez, what an insane PvT lineup.
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Flash seemingly wants a revenge for last season's GOM.
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Stork, how you want to beat mass tanks without storms? Let Jangbi show you.
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Storky goes down
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protoss is the worst race
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is there some secret to getting the ogn stream to work? I've been retrying it for about half an hour and i still get 5 seconds of play then it freezes
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It's really good to see Flash finally incorporating vulture play into his TvP.
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That was a great game... and now Bisu vs Flash. I am glad I decided to stay up tonight.
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Yay Bisu! Please win some games! I've seen to little of him lately =(
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Russian Federation376 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:48 Nokeboy wrote:Everything I do lags to hell:-( YY and VLC. Any ideas how to not lag to hell? Its like 3 seconds then buffering.
Download TvAnts and watch in TvAnts player, channel OGN Live. It's great!
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On March 30 2009 18:50 Tropics wrote:
is there some secret to getting the ogn stream to work? I've been retrying it for about half an hour and i still get 5 seconds of play then it freezes
I had that same problem with mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1. I'm using Tvants and it's working pretty well, although it is 2 minutes behind or so.
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On March 30 2009 18:50 EvoChamber wrote:
It's really good to see Flash finally incorporating vulture play into his TvP.
finally?? Okay flash doesnt harass like mind, boxer, or fantasy but he harasses pretty good.
I was really impressed actually with stork's response to flash's early attack. Using the shuttle to trigger mines and retreating his probes away and buying time until his reaver came out. Flash could have done a lot more damage, stork responded perfectly. Damn flash has good timing.
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I would pay a monthly fee to get good and guaranteed streams to Starcraft. This sucks, I'm going to bed again.
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On March 30 2009 18:51 ZoW wrote:
Yay Bisu! Please win some games! I've seen to little of him lately =(
I've missed watching both of them, this game is going to be great.
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On March 30 2009 18:50 Tropics wrote:
is there some secret to getting the ogn stream to work? I've been retrying it for about half an hour and i still get 5 seconds of play then it freezes
Yes, don't use it. YaoYuan ftw
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Strange, YY or daum almost never work for me, while OGN dorect never fails.
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers: stork, who did so well against zerg, lost to flash... wow, flash's timing was really a piece of art.
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CA10828 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:45 konadora wrote:
Stork GGs, Flash TvP imba yes?
wtf who are you. you have over 1000 posts and i've never seen your name.
and Kentor, don't be stupid.
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The replay showed some sick defence by stork Pity, that he lost those two goons to a single mine.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On March 30 2009 18:55 LosingID8 wrote:wtf who are you. you have over 1000 posts and i've never seen your name. and Kentor, don't be stupid.
LOL.
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flash is 8-2 on this map -- against protoss he has 2 wins no losses
bisu is 7-5 -- against terran he has 1 win no losses
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On March 30 2009 18:53 Holgerius wrote:
I would pay a monthly fee to get good and guaranteed streams to Starcraft. This sucks, I'm going to bed again. Try TVants.
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lol, Flash is trying to find something in his ear, while Bisu just (trying) looking badass
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ugh yaoyuan is now freezing up
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
bisu bottom right
flash top left
destination
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Hey Smix
Am I completely batshit insane or why do I keep hearing "Ma Jae Yoon" every once in a while from the commentators?
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Cheeeeeeseeeeeeee auto lose
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On March 30 2009 18:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 18:50 EvoChamber wrote:
It's really good to see Flash finally incorporating vulture play into his TvP. finally?? Okay flash doesnt harass like mind, boxer, or fantasy but he harasses pretty good. I was really impressed actually with stork's response to flash's early attack. Using the shuttle to trigger mines and retreating his probes away and buying until his reaver came out.
Yeah, Flash's harass wasn't jaw-dropping, but it got the job done, pretty much won the big battle before it even started. Flash did a good job conserving vultures too so that it didn't weaken his push too much. Stork's play was pretty neat too, though he must have been surprised to see Flash wielding vultures.
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On March 30 2009 18:57 Smix wrote:
flash is 8-2 on this map -- against protoss he has 2 wins no losses
bisu is 7-5 -- against terran he has 1 win no losses
Ya but this doesn't count Gom where he got knocked out by Bisu on this very map!
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Smix
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HAHA commentators individually saying hi to every white person shown on camera hahahaha
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Wow, Flash is in full on crazy twitch mode and Bisu looks to be in his full on brooding fonz state. We're in for it.
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and the sense of star kicks in for Flash, DAYUM
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On March 30 2009 18:59 Mooncat wrote:
Hey Smix
Am I completely batshit insane or why do I keep hearing "Ma Jae Yoon" every once in a while from the commentators?
Mm.. they mentioned him once when interviewing Bisu... I don't think it was anything specific though. I haven't heard them say his name since?
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i didnt know zealots had range
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On March 30 2009 19:00 Smix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 18:59 Mooncat wrote:
Hey Smix
Am I completely batshit insane or why do I keep hearing "Ma Jae Yoon" every once in a while from the commentators?
Mm.. they mentioned him once when interviewing Bisu... I don't think it was anything specific though. I haven't heard them say his name since?
I'm pretty sure I heard it once or twice more. But nvm, I'm just a rabid fanboy
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On March 30 2009 19:00 Smix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 18:59 Mooncat wrote:
Hey Smix
Am I completely batshit insane or why do I keep hearing "Ma Jae Yoon" every once in a while from the commentators?
Mm.. they mentioned him once when interviewing Bisu... I don't think it was anything specific though. I haven't heard them say his name since?
I still hear "Kang Min" in almost every game
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flash's game sense is just out of this world
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This looks like the same map order for Idra vs Trap.
Can ppl Live Report Plz??
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flash destroys bisu's proxy
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flash doing some sort of bachanic build it seems
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flash pushing into bisu's base with a bnch of marines and some scvs
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Smix
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11 marines in bisu's main!
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bisu needs some tempest-esque goons to survive this
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You can't cheese flash boi. C;mon FLASH ALL KILL!!
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flash's push dies after taking out 6 or 7 probes and most of his military units
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wow he should have just got an academy, got 2 medics and all-inned.
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best says he thinks bisu is in a better position than flash
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I think Flash should've committed and gone for an academy. Ranged M&M would've sealed the deal.
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bisu expanding to his nat
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Did Flash get his money's worth with all those Marines he built and the SCVs he sent?
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man it's just a treat to see the very best players play ~~
There's just nothing that can compare.
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bisu raping with reaver/shuttle and goons
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more reaver harass, dud scarabs
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On March 30 2009 19:07 poilord wrote:
man it's just a treat to see the very best players play ~~
There's just nothing that can compare.
Agreed - especially these two seem to always bring it.
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flash putting mines everywhere to prevent reaver harass. bisu seems to be in a slightly better position with more map control
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bisu pushing with goons, flash ggs
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Bisu does a great job going back and forth with the Reaver and Dragoons pressuring the nat and Flash GGs.
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incredible dragoon reaver management =O
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GG bisu win
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is it me or bisu's pants look like pajama pants
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That's my boy N1 Bisu. Textbook game.
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f no. I didn't stay up for this. G'night y'all
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So disappointed
Fucking Bisu of all people..
0-3 Bisu...
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i'm surprised so few people are watching this ;x
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Bisu please pick Hwasin !!!
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On March 30 2009 19:11 captainwafflos wrote:
i'm surprised so few people are watching this ;x
yeah wish people would live report more. I can only get slideshows from VLC link (I'm on mac)
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announcers: your first game played out well~
bisu: he found my gateways early... if they were taken out early that would've been bad but.. yea
announcers: are the other players telling you to pick anyone?
bisu: they're not telling me but ... i'll pick nada
announcers: wow seems like toss players love nada so much. why did you pick him?
bisu: i'm winning in our head to heads so i wanted to win again~
announcers: wow.. living legend.. you must be so hurt~
nada: today i will get a win in our head to heads.
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Are there VODs later available because i can't watch the games .. vlc freeze after 2 sec and yaoyuan.com isn't somehow not working
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vlc working fine for me, for now. i'll do my best to lr, but i haven't played starcraft in a year and a half and so might not be the most knowledgeable person here ;x
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Wow great game by Bisu, not sure what Flash should have done diffirently.
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lol bisu's multitask+decisionmaking is just awesome :O
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On March 30 2009 19:13 Aethelfrit wrote:Are there VODs later available because i can't watch the games .. vlc freeze after 2 sec and yaoyuan.com isn't somehow not working
propably u will find them on tl track
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I knew NaDa would be picked :D
GOODLUCK TO YOU LEGENDARY NADA!
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On March 30 2009 19:14 I_L_Jl wrote:
Wow great game by Bisu, not sure what Flash should have done diffirently.
I think he would have won if he had tried to kill probes when his marines were in Bisu's base instead of trying to bunker up next to the gateways. If he had just skipped the marine push altogether and went for mech earlier he probably would have won.
That was a really exciting game though.
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I wanna watch Bisu vs Hwasin ~~
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gogo..
2 Players that I really like face off.. :D
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everyone trying yaoyuan, don't forget it only works with internet explorer. Firefox doesn't work.
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Tornado Terran! Show them newschoolers how its done
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fuck
daylight savings finished yesterday
i totally forgot it
missed the first two games
ahhhhhhhhhhh
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FUCK I CAN'T WATCH IT, fucking ports are blocked here, VLC freezes up after 2sec and yaoyuan won't load ((
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Wow, seems to be a real shortage of folks here. I've finally gotten a working stream, so I'll try to live report from here on.
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Smix
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flash said he saw the reaver then forgot about it later lolllllllll
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konadora
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Get ready for epic long TvP
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On March 30 2009 19:25 Smix wrote:
flash said he saw the reaver then forgot about it later lolllllllll
lol
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On March 30 2009 19:25 Smix wrote:
flash said he saw the reaver then forgot about it later lolllllllll
T__T lol.
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Andromeda: Bisu at bottom left, Nada at top left.
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starting
nada brown top left
bisu red bottom left
andromeda
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talking about nada's game vs. stork where he played well on andromeda .. how he needs to take advantage of his position today.
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Nada walling, Bisu looks to be early nexusing.
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Kentor
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bisu looking extremely gangster today
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konadora
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BISU FAST NEXUS!
Nada playing standard.
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Bisu quick expands to his natural. Scouts nada right off, but can't get in.
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Shit. Nexus first in the GAS natural? Risky strat anyone?
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Nada scouting correctly too, talking about how Nada can cheese rush with marines, scvs and a few vultures.
Lol
Flash: "If Nada cheeses, it's over for Bisu"
OGN: "If Flash was playing, knowing his style, that might have happened."
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1 scv on gas for nada. He scouts bisu right off. Not making rines, so almost certainly he'll fact cc.
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Kentor
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Nada spots the 13 nexus. He decides to expand in the mineral only instead of countering
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announcers talking about how with flash's "patience" he would have already gone down haha - (flash just said out loud: his siege is done!)
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Yeah, nada makes a quick cc at his min only.
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Smix
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HAHAHA announcers talking about how stork doesn't care about eatin gin front of the camera~ does it willingly for the fans to see hahaha
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konadora
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Lol Stork eating biscuits given by the fans, blushing in front of camera. Saying how Stork loves being on camera and enjoys it
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konadora
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Bisu going for a DT drop that is slightly off-timing.
Nada going triple command.
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Bisu getting citadel. DT drop? Poking around with 2 goons and a zeal at nada's nat, but siege is done for nada and bisu retreats.
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Nada taking a very quick third in his gas natural.
Bisu making a robotics and templar archives. DT drops coming
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konadora
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Saying Nada will be greatly ahead if he defends the DT drop well.
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shuttle leaving bisu's base
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konadora
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Nada playing well, building turrets everywhere for possible reaver/dt drop. Gas expo running already.
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Turrets going up for nada, but no acad. DTs on their way.
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konadora
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STREAM SUDDENLY DIED NOOO.
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On March 30 2009 19:35 konadora wrote:
STREAM SUDDENLY DIED NOOO.
Mine too! T_T
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dts killing machine shops
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Kentor
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On March 30 2009 19:35 konadora wrote:
STREAM SUDDENLY DIED NOOO.
mine too. go back quick!
bisu cutting up nada's machine shops
killed 1 machine shop
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Shuttle sees the turrets and starts poking around. Nada sees it and puts a turret at his main. Bisu drops in the far side of the main, takes down turret there and picks off 2 depots. Hitting what he can outside turret range. Attacking machine shop now.
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2 machine shop down. nada going for 6 factories if i saw it right
DT finally goes down to a scan
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Looks like bisu got one of the machine shops. Gets both. Still harassing, hitting building facts now still outside turret range. Nada having to make a lot of turrets.
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dt still wreaking havoc, finally killed
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konadora
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Stream officially dead for me. Last time I refreshed, DT drop doing hella damage o_O
Destroyed buildings everywhere lol
Guess I'll wait for Jon747's VODs.
Btw, why doesn't TL have VODs for these special events?
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Scan finally comes in and nada clears out the last dt. Bisu on 6 gates I think, nada with 4 facts 2 incomplete with no scv on them atm.
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Bisu taking the island pyloning off bottom right main.
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Marine scouts bottom right pylons. Arb out for bisu.
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On March 30 2009 19:37 konadora wrote:
Btw, why doesn't TL have VODs for these special events?
They do, the Nevake youtube channel.
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Kentor
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bisu taking island expo at 6. nada is trying to slowly push out with turrets
nada landed his 4th cc at 9 oclock
big fight near 9 oclock
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It would have helped though if Teamliquid.net was huge then the comment at the bottom though =D
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Nada moving out. Pushing bisu back. Nice sized force for nada, but bisu has a large army and lots of gates.
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On March 30 2009 19:38 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 19:37 konadora wrote:
Btw, why doesn't TL have VODs for these special events? They do, the Nevake youtube channel.
I mean for torrenting.
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Nada taking 9, pushing to cover the expansion. Continues to push bisu back.
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bisu destroying nada's tank force
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bisu comes out away ahead
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Bisu breaks 1st push like nothing.
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Kentor
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Bisu cleaning up nada's push with brilliant stasis and storms. Zealots and dragoons clean up his army like butter
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This is over. Army + stasis broke the push
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nada forced to abandon 9, bisu taking expo at bottom right
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Bisu attacks, gets off a stasis on 3 rear tanks. Storm and zealots clear out the front ones, and reinforcements help clear out most of the rear ones as well. 9 left undefended.
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On March 30 2009 19:39 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 19:38 jello_biafra wrote:On March 30 2009 19:37 konadora wrote:
Btw, why doesn't TL have VODs for these special events? They do, the Nevake youtube channel. I mean for torrenting.
PM fw, he has access to oskyloveo/clubboxes where he uploads the oskyloveo/eumko vods.
but he goes on and off alot so
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On March 30 2009 19:39 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 19:38 jello_biafra wrote:On March 30 2009 19:37 konadora wrote:
Btw, why doesn't TL have VODs for these special events? They do, the Nevake youtube channel. I mean for torrenting.
Ah, okay .
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bisu has this short of a miracle i think
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Kentor
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Nada forced to float his 4th cc away while Bisu takes a 5th
Bisu feels he has enough units to push Nada's natural choke
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bisu pushing into nada's main
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Vessels making for nada. Bisu setting up camp outside nada's natural.
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Bisu with stasis charging Nada's front!
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epic statis's, i don't think nada has enough to defend, should be gg soon, stream dead
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is there a stream besides L1 ? daumsports maybe ?
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Bisu stasises almost all of nada's tanks and attacks, huge stream of reinforcing zealots coming in. Bisu with free reign in nada's natural. Nada gg's.
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Bisu's not in a slump woot gogo !
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gg I guess, these 2 DTs did their job (2nd one especially)
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Kentor
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On March 30 2009 19:42 Disarray wrote:
is there a stream besides L1 ? daumsports maybe ?
Daumsports doesn't cover this unfortunately. There's L1 and YY
wish daum was back
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Bisu is in shape again i think
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Smix smix what's bisu saying?
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other protoss players looked a bit frustrated.. "Aren't we going to get play at all??" xD
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
teamliquid should buy tl.net
Bisu picks Leta.
Have to sleep. School tomorrow :s
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hm, yeah you guys might have to lr for me now, if anyone has a decent stream
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konadora
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On March 30 2009 19:40 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 19:39 konadora wrote:On March 30 2009 19:38 jello_biafra wrote:On March 30 2009 19:37 konadora wrote:
Btw, why doesn't TL have VODs for these special events? They do, the Nevake youtube channel. I mean for torrenting. PM fw, he has access to oskyloveo/clubboxes where he uploads the oskyloveo/eumko vods. but he goes on and off alot so
Okay thanks.
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Fuuuuuck I can't get the stream to work again T_T
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On March 30 2009 19:43 Pholon wrote:That's us ^_^
Haha nice !!
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My stream hiccuped right as the dt drop happened, so I hope they cover that with the replay section after the break (I'm sure they will). Obviously that completely fucked nada over, he lost so much to that drop and bisu just shot wayyy ahead. Vintage bisu move.
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bisu picks leta it looks like
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Smix
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announcers: bisu just defeated the youngest flash, and oldest nada~ who will he pick next? how do you feel? you had a fast nexus, weren't you nervous?
bisu: position wise i wasn't in a good position, but i think in buildorder i was good, and dt drop was successful so yea
announcers: did you know the dt drop was going to do well? i honestly didn't know you would be so successful
bisu: i knew that he wouldn't have many turrets in his main since he had a lot around the edges so once i got in i knew i'd be okay
announcers: who do you pick?
bisu: leta.
announcers: why?
bisu: i want to play hwasin, but i want to save that for last.
announcers: you need to beat bisu so you can play jangbi. feel confident?
leta: yes, i will beat bisu so i can play jangbi.
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hahahahah "I will beat bisu so I can play jangbi," that sounds like something the devil would force you to say in the deepest pit of terran hell.
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On March 30 2009 19:44 captainwafflos wrote:hm, yeah you guys might have to lr for me now, if anyone has a decent stream
well it's not like everyone wasn't lr'ing already so you're in luck
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konadora
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On March 30 2009 19:47 maareek wrote:
hahahahah "I will beat bisu so I can play jangbi," that sounds like something the devil would force you to say in the deepest pit of terran hell.
+1
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10x for the translations Smix!
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On March 30 2009 19:48 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 19:44 captainwafflos wrote:hm, yeah you guys might have to lr for me now, if anyone has a decent stream well it's not like everyone wasn't lr'ing already so you're in luck
ohok
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OK, bisu didn't get any depots, it was a turret and the academy that he got before he went after the machine shops. My bad, my stream hiccuped there. Still a huge deal, though.
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On March 30 2009 19:47 maareek wrote:
hahahahah "I will beat bisu so I can play jangbi," that sounds like something the devil would force you to say in the deepest pit of terran hell.
It sounds a bit like a proverb, yeah. Like ''Out of the frying pan, into the fire''.
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
hahaha love how nada sighs and pouts as the announcers are saying "how frustrating must it have been for nada as a progamer!!"
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Stork doesnt want cookies
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
hahahahahaha making fun of how stork ate all the food hahaha. even jangbi is shoving the food towards him. stork doesn't eat any, commentators are questioning whether it's because they made fun of him for it before. turns out there was nothing left inside the box - he ate it all HAHA
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he ate them all already rofl
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
bisu 3-2 60% on colosseum 2
leta 2-2 50%
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I don't usually comment on the clothes, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the commentator's shirts? Bright purple and sky blue?
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Colosseum: Bisu at top left, Leta at bottom right.
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On March 30 2009 19:56 maareek wrote:
I don't usually comment on the clothes, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the commentator's shirts? Bright purple and sky blue?
fashion bro
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
LOL stork eating again! hahahahahaa
commentators are saying he is cute when he eats, scary when he plays hahahahah
stork: i'm so embarrassed! i'm embarrassed!
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Standard openings: bisu gate gas, leta rax gas and stork the cookie monster shuffle.
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Both scout vertically. Bisu with quick second gate.
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Leta able to scout bisu, and keeps bisu from scouting him. Pretty sure bisu able to see no wall, though.
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Why didn't they feed stork before the games. :'(
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Bisu putting a pylon at ~6.
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how does he know?
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Bisu sees the dropship and almost kills it. Bisu ferrying his goons up into leta's natural.
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vult drop in bisu's main. He defends. Goons causing havoc in leta's main. Picks off a tank, getting several scvs. Reaver arriving now and 3 goons still left.
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HOLY SHIT TAHT SCARAB WOW
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bisu just walked over leta wow
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
25 kills on that reaver... this is painful.
gg
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Leta had a wraith, but the goons got it. Bisu having his way with leta's main. Reavers gets a crazy amount of scvs. Basically all of them. Not sure what leta's doing. Oh, he's gging.
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Hwasin looking very worried.
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Hwasin reverse 3-kill please
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Hwasin reverse all kill
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That game was just beautiful. Rape all up and down, just wow.
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On March 30 2009 20:06 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Hwasin reverse all kill
he cant flash won the first game ;p
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Haha it's up to Hwasin to beat Bisu, Best, and Jangbi in tvp. At least it's not Casy, I guess...
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SKT should keep this in mind, you send out bisu second, not first. Too bad that lesson comes just a little bit too late. >_<;;
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On March 30 2009 20:07 GTR wrote:he cant flash won the first game ;p
Reverse something;;
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Is it just me, or does Hwasin's face have the look of "umm, could we please make Bisu play Zerg?"
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On March 30 2009 20:08 maareek wrote:
SKT should keep this in mind, you send out bisu second, not first. Too bad that lesson comes just a little bit too late. >_<;;
How do you get that from this result?
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Kim Taek Yong all-kill zizi yO~
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers: bisu-- wow, because of the far positions, you had a proxy robo
bisu: i was winning, so i just played comfortably.. and it turned out well
announcers: no moment where you felt you were in danger?
bisu: if the mine had destroyed my units, i would've lost... but yea i was lucky it didnt' explode
announcers: if you win here no one else gets to play~ (on protoss)
bisu: if i lose that's okay... but i want to win. so yea, i'll try and win
announcers: before in the past you and hwasin have quite a history of picking each other~ anything you want to say to hwasin??
bisu: uh.. i don't have anything particular to say.. (people laugh). i just want to allkil- well, i just want to make protoss win by performing an allkill
announcers: the event that was inevitable has arrived.
hwasin: i'll try to beat bisu so he doesnt get an allkill
announcers: why do you think you keep losing to him?
hwasin: i think he rides his momentum and wins.. so i'll try hard to make sure that doesn't happen again
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wow I can just imagine how nervous Hwasin is :D
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thx smix for your translations dude
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On March 30 2009 20:09 I_L_Jl wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 20:08 maareek wrote:
SKT should keep this in mind, you send out bisu second, not first. Too bad that lesson comes just a little bit too late. >_< How do you get that from this result?
I make it up out of the air, obviously.
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On March 30 2009 20:08 Pyrthas wrote:
Haha it's up to Hwasin to beat Bisu, Best, and Jangbi in tvp. At least it's not Casy, I guess...
rofl at least it isn't FBH
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"if i lose that's okay... but i want to win. so yea, i'll try and win"
most profound statement in the history of competition
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thanks Smix :D
gogo bisu! all kill~ wooo
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When programer are in their zone (Just like Jeadong is since past week.) no one can stop them... Srry Hwasin but.. your gone
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I like Hwasin, but he'll need to pull out Flash-level TvP to have a chance here.
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Hwasin vs Bisu-Jangbi-Best, good luck hwasin, you'll need it
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the only terran who could possibly win now is flash. or idra. but neither of them can play =[
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On March 30 2009 20:17 nebffa wrote:
the only terran who could possibly win now is flash. or idra. but neither of them can play =[
Fantasy, no?
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Hwasin should just cheese.
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On March 30 2009 20:14 Signus wrote:
I like Hwasin, but he'll need to pull out Flash-level TvP to have a chance here.
And even that wasn't good enough to beat bisu! He'll need more than that.
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Return of the King: Bisu at top left, Hwasin at bottom left.
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Standard openings so far. Bisu scouting wrong direction.
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
announcers just asked jangbi, "are you bored?'
his response: starts rubbing his eyes hahah
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Hwasin prevents bisu from scouting his main. Bisu with pylon around 6. Hwasin opening fact CC.
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lol barracks, how the hell
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Hwasin floating his rax towards 6. Stops it pixels before he'd see the gateway.
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omfg definition of luck right there
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omg Hwasin!! so close to finding out Bisu's proxy gateway
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hahha flash disgusted
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bisu gets the best luck out of hwasin
first the probe through supply now this
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Flash shaking his head. Turret up in time, though. Takes the turret down with the help of a couple zeals. 1 dt loose in the natural now. Bisu moves in the army with 3 more dt. Hwasin getting torn apart. Bisu in the main.
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Artosis must be enjoying today's games.
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why doesn't hwasin switch Bisu's color to red?
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Hwasin with a tank left, but bisu has 2 dts plus a zeal. Hwasin very low on scvs. More units coming in, hwasin losing the last turret in his main. Acad not done yet.
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well, if that wasn't a summary of Hwasin's career lately....
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Bisu sucha monster!!Rape throughout the games!
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I bet Stork likes Bisu more lol
So the results followed t>z>p>t ??
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Rwar.. just bad he didn't dont an all-kill when it really count (osl, proleague series, gom showmatch)
but still GJ YEAH !~!!
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Hwasin must be feeling liek the unluckiest guy on earth.
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wow. hwasin got so unlucky with those barracks
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LOL THE OB IS JUST RUBBING IT IN HWASIN'S FACE
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All-kill ez
and i think protoss won this event.
P: 7-5
T:5-6
Z:6-7
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Commentators keep showing how frigging close his barracks was and Hwasin is so damn pissed with himself.
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all-kill vs top 4 terran,
BISU > TERRAN CARS!
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and you say terran is imbalanced bisu
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
Bisu says that terran is imba and makes all-kill what a lol
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lol camera man shooting at Hwasin's face.
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all killing the terran team and getting 0-3ed by fantasy, that makes sense
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On March 30 2009 20:34 GTR wrote:
LOL THE OB IS JUST RUBBING IT IN HWASIN'S FACE
Yeah, seriously, hwasin must've been so angry when he saw how close it was, and then they just kept harping on it for like another 2 minutes. I guess they wear the colorful shirts to cover up the fact that they don't have a heart. TT
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On March 30 2009 20:36 disciple wrote:
all killing the terran team and getting 0-3ed by fantasy, that makes sense
Fantasy new Best TvP O.o ??
lawl
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On March 30 2009 20:36 disciple wrote:
all killing the terran team and getting 0-3ed by fantasy, that makes sense
it makes sense when everyone takes the tourney for fun, and dont really practice for it.. Its a fun event, as you can see everyone is laughing..
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i think its funny that bisu get crap even when he wins... haters just wanna hate
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On March 30 2009 20:35 Ilikestarcraft wrote:and you say terran is imbalanced bisu
He said that?
<3 Bisu even more!
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On March 30 2009 20:37 Samurai- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 20:36 disciple wrote:
all killing the terran team and getting 0-3ed by fantasy, that makes sense it makes sense when everyone takes the tourney for fun, and dont really practice for it.. Its a fun event, as you can see everyone is laughing..
I dont see how the friendly mood affected the games quality.
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Man Leta looked really sad. Untill he smiled. Which, for some strange reason, reminds me of the Joker's smile.
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On March 30 2009 20:35 Ilikestarcraft wrote:and you say terran is imbalanced bisu
terran beeing imba and bisu still fucking shit up, doesnt really make his quote untrue now, does it?
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On March 30 2009 20:38 Highways wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 20:35 Ilikestarcraft wrote:and you say terran is imbalanced bisu He said that? <3 Bisu even more!
Nada when asked about his opinion on the maps for the next leagues and nada said that muta harass is really hard to play against on those maps and medusa he just wished they would allow turrets to be built.
They asked bisu what he thought and he said since terran is such an imbalanced race that even if maps are against terran they still win.
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On March 30 2009 20:43 isbunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 20:35 Ilikestarcraft wrote:and you say terran is imbalanced bisu terran beeing imba and bisu still fucking shit up, doesnt really make his quote untrue now, does it?
No if his quote was true terran would have won
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"i will just think of flash's victory as our all-kill"
lol
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On March 30 2009 20:40 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 20:37 Samurai- wrote:On March 30 2009 20:36 disciple wrote:
all killing the terran team and getting 0-3ed by fantasy, that makes sense it makes sense when everyone takes the tourney for fun, and dont really practice for it.. Its a fun event, as you can see everyone is laughing.. I dont see how the friendly mood affected the games quality.
Where did i say that?
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SMIX! thanks for translition!
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On March 30 2009 20:45 Smix wrote:Alright bye all~ I will try and translate the interviews as soon as they're up on fomos.
thanks so much for all the translations. =)
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On March 30 2009 20:45 Smix wrote:Alright bye all~ I will try and translate the interviews as soon as they're up on fomos.
Thank you very much for your help with the translations! So nice to have somebody helping us see the players outside the game, especially in an event like this.
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Thanks a lot for all the translations Smix. This is really appreciated.
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tyty for the translations Smix!
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On March 30 2009 20:45 Samurai- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 20:40 disciple wrote:On March 30 2009 20:37 Samurai- wrote:On March 30 2009 20:36 disciple wrote:
all killing the terran team and getting 0-3ed by fantasy, that makes sense it makes sense when everyone takes the tourney for fun, and dont really practice for it.. Its a fun event, as you can see everyone is laughing.. I dont see how the friendly mood affected the games quality. Where did i say that?
You said they were not practicing for the thing, thou I couldnt really see someone being incredibly out of shape, Bisu got lucky in multiple key moments and won, its not like flash or nada throwing the games away. Besides all I wanted to say is that Bisu is being inconsistent lately
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On March 30 2009 20:36 disciple wrote:
all killing the terran team and getting 0-3ed by fantasy, that makes sense
He does have good days and bad days like anybody else.
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Poll: Smix special icon!
(Vote): Yeah, she rocks!
(Vote): No way!
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Haha even in special events Flash is the only one on his team that can win anything
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Imo Bisu did an extreamly good all kiling the T. It must be hard motivate yourself after a 0-3 defeat in the semis.
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On March 30 2009 20:51 kemoryan wrote:Poll: Smix special icon!( Vote): Yeah, he rocks! ( Vote): No way!
*she, but yeah smix is awesome, althou it might be good to wait a bit since it's only really recently (and AWESOME) she's been activly translating.
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Not a single 1a2a3a joke in the whole topic? I'm disappointed
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On March 30 2009 20:37 isbunk wrote:
i think its funny that bisu get crap even when he wins... haters just wanna hate
Agreed, and i couldn't care less anymore about them. The lamest remarks from them are "people work hard to make Power ranking effective" but from what i saw, was they care more about bisu OUT of PR rather than who's in it.
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And BTW Fantasy Hwaiting. KILL JD yo
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On March 30 2009 21:20 Sadistx wrote:Not a single 1a2a3a joke in the whole topic? I'm disappointed
Flash vs Stork 1a2a3a terran imbalanced
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Russian Federation386 Posts
Oh shit... these "race battles" are just proving that P rapes ^^
Good old T>Z>P>T.
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On March 30 2009 21:25 5tarscream wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 20:37 isbunk wrote:
i think its funny that bisu get crap even when he wins... haters just wanna hate Agreed, and i couldn't care less anymore about them. The lamest remarks from them are "people work hard to make Power ranking effective" but from what i saw, was they care more about bisu OUT of PR rather than who's in it.
Are you talking about fakesteve?
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Funny to sea that Stork who is suppose to have strong PvT goes 0-1 PvT and 3-1 PvZ while Bisu who is known for his PvZ goes 0-1 PvZ and 4-0 PvT
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On March 30 2009 21:50 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2009 21:25 5tarscream wrote:On March 30 2009 20:37 isbunk wrote:
i think its funny that bisu get crap even when he wins... haters just wanna hate Agreed, and i couldn't care less anymore about them. The lamest remarks from them are "people work hard to make Power ranking effective" but from what i saw, was they care more about bisu OUT of PR rather than who's in it. Are you talking about fakesteve?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89835¤tpage=40
I am referring to On March 20 2009 20:08 monstar123 wrote:
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On March 20 2009 20:03 5tarscream wrote:
On March 20 2009 20:00 Samurai- wrote:
lol, failed in WL, osl fail, i dont think he can even be in top 10 power rank this month :D
So What?
It mainly because fantasy has upped his game. Said that to me when Fantasy beaten everyone else. [Edit]AntiBisu[Edit].
LOL, power rank is nothing compared to KESPA rating and ELO pts
Power rank is sh*t....
People here are putting effort and time into analyzing the progamers' monthly performance and you come and call that shit. You've found a great way to support the community, thank you so so much for your insight!
As for Fantasy, he is really unpredictable. He can lose a game and come back and win the next one in such a way that you think his opponent must be handicapped. Today he displayed some very nice game.
Bisu... Well, he just sucked today. Maybe next OSL if he doesn't slump big time again.
Now I hope Fantasy wins the whole thing, that would be great!
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Bisu is a fucking beast.
<333
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bisu, dont waste your winnings on this.
win an OSL ;/
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ah i get it now
5tarscream
My english is getting so bad. I had to read your posts like 2-3 times before i got it;;
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Zerg > Protoss
and since Protoss > Terran,
then Zerg > Terran.
So, Zerg > All.
Also, since Bisu All-Killed the Terran team,
and sAviOr beat Bisu,
sAviOr can all-kill the Terran team as well.
That is logic. Do not argue.
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Way to go Bisu...yeah, anyone who is ready to count KTY out since his loss to Fantasy is crazy.
Bisu will be ready for another deep OSL run next season.
It's only too bad he didn't even give BeSt a shot to play
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On March 30 2009 19:43 Pholon wrote:That's us ^_^
Hey thanks for that pic actually....that was me, as announced in the blog :D
And I got a shot with NaDa afterwards, a dream comes true...
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China3334 Posts
Man you are lucky. I wish I were there.
+ Show Spoiler +I only watched the first Stork/Flash game then Dan told me Bisu's all-killing when I arrived home. See, once I'm not watching, he's winning everything
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On March 31 2009 00:23 Qwertify wrote:
Zerg > Protoss
and since Protoss > Terran,
then Zerg > Terran.
So, Zerg > All.
Also, since Bisu All-Killed the Terran team,
and sAviOr beat Bisu,
sAviOr can all-kill the Terran team as well.
That is logic. Do not argue. They already played the ZvT match, and Zerg won... so you don't need to use fake logic.
Edit: wait, i lied.
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On March 31 2009 01:02 Emlary wrote:Man you are lucky. I wish I were there. + Show Spoiler +I only watched the first Stork/Flash game then Dan told me Bisu's all-killing when I arrived home. See, once I'm not watching, he's winning everything
Did you see what you uncovered ? You just need to make sure you don't watch any of his live games and he's going to win every game from now on!!!
On a side note, just watched to vods, pretty nice games.
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Woot! As a result of tonight, the most successful players in the race battle were:
Bisu 4 wins 1 loss.
July 4 wins 2 losses.
Leta 3 wins 1 loss.
Stork 3 wins 2 losses.
Savior 2 wins 1 loss.
Biggest losers, the zerg twins and hwasin with two losses a piece.
Warms my heart to see July and Savior performing. Zerg would have smoked this year if they had Jaedong instead of either twin. Does anyone know which zerg got an invite because Jaedong didn't accept? By ranking it was probably Savior...
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In the intros if this event, was that In Flames I heard?
This is one of those classic "I heard a song and im asking on the internet for help"
I tried playing it into my cellphone using TrackID (the greatest cellphone feature ever btw..) but the korean commentators must have confused the program
Anywho, if anyone can confirm, then what song/album was that?
Bugs me out not figuring it out
Thanks in advance!
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sad results , Flash shouldve picked Bisu last
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Well
that means its 1-1 for all races
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On March 31 2009 00:23 Qwertify wrote:
Zerg > Protoss
and since Protoss > Terran,
then Zerg > Terran.
So, Zerg > All.
Also, since Bisu All-Killed the Terran team,
and sAviOr beat Bisu,
sAviOr can all-kill the Terran team as well.
That is logic. Do not argue.
Fantasy > Luxury in Quarter [Edit]Final[Edit].
Luxury > Jangbi
Based on your Logic, Fantasy > Jangbi
Do you agree?
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On March 31 2009 02:41 Mykill wrote:Well that means its 1-1 for all races
BALANCE!!!!111
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=( Terran, what happened? D: Hwasin, no reverse all-kill...
Edit: Well, never mind, a reverse all-kill wouldn't have been possible since Stork was already out, but still.
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As expected, Protoss rolls over Terran. Sad thing to see Best and Jangbi not be able to play in their best MUs.
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LOL at the guy who said Bisu is not an S-Class pvt
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On March 31 2009 03:41 Roffles wrote:
As expected, Protoss rolls over Terran. Sad thing to see Best and Jangbi not be able to play in their best MUs.
Best's best (oh god) is PvP definitely.
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On March 31 2009 02:26 GinNtoniC wrote:In the intros if this event, was that In Flames I heard? This is one of those classic "I heard a song and im asking on the internet for help" I tried playing it into my cellphone using TrackID (the greatest cellphone feature ever btw..) but the korean commentators must have confused the program Anywho, if anyone can confirm, then what song/album was that? Bugs me out not figuring it out Thanks in advance!
Think its "The Legion of Doom - Dangerous Business Since 1979"
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On March 31 2009 04:39 Jonvvv wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 02:26 GinNtoniC wrote:In the intros if this event, was that In Flames I heard? This is one of those classic "I heard a song and im asking on the internet for help" I tried playing it into my cellphone using TrackID (the greatest cellphone feature ever btw..) but the korean commentators must have confused the program Anywho, if anyone can confirm, then what song/album was that? Bugs me out not figuring it out Thanks in advance! Think its "The Legion of Doom - Dangerous Business Since 1979"
I think it was indeed In Flames, and the song would be Touch of Red. At least that's the IF song I heard on the stream...(I don't remember which album it is on, though, I could check it on my HD somewhere if you're curious)
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this almost makes me wonder if the fantasy - bisu 3 - 0 OSL semi was rigged - _ -
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Does Leta have a nickname?
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Batisterio-PiB
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The Bisu vs Fantasy reminds me Stork vs Iris in Semi of OSL when the slump Iris beats the invencible Stork 3-0...
Everybody has his bad days...but Bisu would lose to Jaedong on this maps....
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dang, missed an opportunity to cheer for my boy
also smix rocks so hard that my monitor almost turned to granite
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On March 31 2009 07:27 noname_ wrote:
Does Leta have a nickname?
Magic Leprechaun.
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On March 31 2009 04:32 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 03:41 Roffles wrote:
As expected, Protoss rolls over Terran. Sad thing to see Best and Jangbi not be able to play in their best MUs. Best's best (oh god) is PvP definitely.
that was 6months ago
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On March 31 2009 03:22 5tarscream wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 00:23 Qwertify wrote:
Zerg > Protoss
and since Protoss > Terran,
then Zerg > Terran.
So, Zerg > All.
Also, since Bisu All-Killed the Terran team,
and sAviOr beat Bisu,
sAviOr can all-kill the Terran team as well.
That is logic. Do not argue. Fantasy > Luxury in Quarter [Edit]Final[Edit]. Luxury > Jangbi Based on your Logic, Fantasy > Jangbi Do you agree?
Your logic has no mention of sAviOr, therefore it fails.
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Smix
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On March 31 2009 07:27 noname_ wrote:
Does Leta have a nickname?
I'm pretty sure the koreans call him "miracle boy"
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Protoss = Rock
Zerg = Paper
Terran = Scissors
go ahead, check it out
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From SCForAll:
Price money payouts
Bisu: 4-1 (1 All Kill) - 1,400,000
JulyZerg: 4-2 - 1,200,000
Leta: 3-1 - 1,000,000
Stork: 3-2 - 1,000,000
Savior: 2-1 - 800,000
Flash: 1-1 - 600,000
Nada: 1-2 - 600,000
JangBi: 0-1 - 400,000
Best: 0-1 - 400,000
Hwasin: 0-2 - 400,000
Yellow[Arnc]: 0-2 - 400,000
Luxury: 0-2 - 400,000
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On March 31 2009 01:02 Emlary wrote:Man you are lucky. I wish I were there. + Show Spoiler +I only watched the first Stork/Flash game then Dan told me Bisu's all-killing when I arrived home. See, once I'm not watching, he's winning everything
This made me sad.
He missed a step for sure, but he's far from finished.
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LMAO bisu is seriously the pvt god, idfc what you people say!
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On March 31 2009 00:23 Qwertify wrote:
Zerg > Protoss
and since Protoss > Terran,
then Zerg > Terran.
So, Zerg > All.
Also, since Bisu All-Killed the Terran team,
and sAviOr beat Bisu,
sAviOr can all-kill the Terran team as well.
That is logic. Do not argue.
win
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On March 31 2009 06:34 Blue wrote:
this almost makes me wonder if the fantasy - bisu 3 - 0 OSL semi was rigged - _ -
You mean cause Bisu didnt proxy in all 3 games? This show match sucked so hard it was funny, Im glad I didnt stay up for this. Id rather have seen Jangbi rape than this.
Quesion: Why didnt Flash get the academy vs Bisu since he had so many marines?
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On March 31 2009 04:39 Jonvvv wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 02:26 GinNtoniC wrote:In the intros if this event, was that In Flames I heard? This is one of those classic "I heard a song and im asking on the internet for help" I tried playing it into my cellphone using TrackID (the greatest cellphone feature ever btw..) but the korean commentators must have confused the program Anywho, if anyone can confirm, then what song/album was that? Bugs me out not figuring it out Thanks in advance! Think its "The Legion of Doom - Dangerous Business Since 1979"
I believe the intro song is Delight and Angers off of the A Sense of Purpose album.
In Flames ftw.
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On March 31 2009 12:04 mog87 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 06:34 Blue wrote:
this almost makes me wonder if the fantasy - bisu 3 - 0 OSL semi was rigged - _ - You mean cause Bisu didnt proxy in all 3 games? This show match sucked so hard it was funny, Im glad I didnt stay up for this. Id rather have seen Jangbi rape than this. Quesion: Why didnt Flash get the academy vs Bisu since he had so many marines?
"Show match" is often synonymous with "non-standard." DT drops and Reaver play is exciting to most viewers, while turtleing macro play often isn't. I found the games fast paced and fun to watch, all the more so because it is a fun match and everyone takes it lightly (you don't have to feel bad for the losers...well, maybe Hwasin. )
Flash not getting an Acad was probably just a poor decision due to lack of preparation if you ask me... He must have known he was behind, and that Bisu would take advantage of his tech setback.
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On March 31 2009 12:04 mog87 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 06:34 Blue wrote:
this almost makes me wonder if the fantasy - bisu 3 - 0 OSL semi was rigged - _ - You mean cause Bisu didnt proxy in all 3 games? This show match sucked so hard it was funny, Im glad I didnt stay up for this. Id rather have seen Jangbi rape than this. Quesion: Why didnt Flash get the academy vs Bisu since he had so many marines?
You just think that if people cheese they can't play straight-up, a mentality you probably got because you've been cheesed on ICCup and don't know how to stop it, still.
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I guess someone's missed all the recent PvT games of Bisu or something.
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Stork thumbed down TOTM
Why do they even bother asking protoss "so do you want to play on tears of the moon?"
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Bisu, you killer of dreams.
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On March 31 2009 14:01 scwizard wrote:
Stork thumbed down TOTM
Why do they even bother asking protoss "so do you want to play on tears of the moon?"
They really should just call it the tears of the protoss. Btw, I loved how the matches proved just how balanced the races are.
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I don't really see how it proved much, really.
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On March 31 2009 15:10 koreasilver wrote:
I don't really see how it proved much, really.
Well I know it's a stretch but what we saw in the All Stars was that + Show Spoiler + which is generally the accepted advantage if map is neutral. What was clear was that no race wasdominant over the other two, although again I know you could argue about map balance and all that stuff...
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Players. Map balance. The fact that this is a showmatch. The absence of Jaedong (put in here so that kids stop crying in responses). All-kill format.
All those factors mean that you really can't make any assertive judgments based on these results.
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It proved Bisu is Imba, except against the new savior.
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On March 31 2009 15:28 fanatacist wrote:
Players. Map balance. The fact that this is a showmatch. The absence of Jaedong (put in here so that kids stop crying in responses). All-kill format.
All those factors mean that you really can't make any assertive judgments based on these results.
Proving is a subjective term with many definitions. It's clear you're looking for 100% proof which is impossible given the number of factors. I'm just saying from my personal opinion how much this showcase showed the balance of the game and I loved how each race was 1-1. Of course, this doesn't prove anything but irregardless for me this match proved once more that Starcraft truly is one of the most balanced nonmirror games ever.
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where can i get all the vods from the all star race battle games?
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On March 31 2009 13:19 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 12:04 mog87 wrote:On March 31 2009 06:34 Blue wrote:
this almost makes me wonder if the fantasy - bisu 3 - 0 OSL semi was rigged - _ - You mean cause Bisu didnt proxy in all 3 games? This show match sucked so hard it was funny, Im glad I didnt stay up for this. Id rather have seen Jangbi rape than this. Quesion: Why didnt Flash get the academy vs Bisu since he had so many marines? You just think that if people cheese they can't play straight-up, a mentality you probably got because you've been cheesed on ICCup and don't know how to stop it, still.
No moron, Hes an extremely high level pro, no shit he knows how to play straight up, Theres countless games to atest to that fact, but this is a show/exhibition event watching 3 proxy's and a 12nex to dt drop, for 4 games in a PROFESSIONAL EXHIBITION series is a hella lame and boring.
So please your little ICCUP analogy is stupid and ridiculous and not to mention you pulled it out your ass with nothing to support it. Jesus first the MSL groups and now this, ugh.
So can anyone with brains comment on the Flash and no academy question I asked earlier?
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On March 31 2009 15:36 berkguyyy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 15:28 fanatacist wrote:
Players. Map balance. The fact that this is a showmatch. The absence of Jaedong (put in here so that kids stop crying in responses). All-kill format.
All those factors mean that you really can't make any assertive judgments based on these results. Proving is a subjective term with many definitions. It's clear you're looking for 100% proof which is impossible given the number of factors. I'm just saying from my personal opinion how much this showcase showed the balance of the game and I loved how each race was 1-1. Of course, this doesn't prove anything but irregardless for me this match proved once more that Starcraft truly is one of the most balanced nonmirror games ever.
The only thing these games "proved" to us are things that we all already knew.
July is good against protoss.
The Zerg twins fucking blow really bad some days for some reason.
Bisu's PvT has improved tremendously over time.
Leta is a real strong player nowadays.
Hwasin < Bisu
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On March 31 2009 16:02 mog87 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 13:19 fanatacist wrote:On March 31 2009 12:04 mog87 wrote:On March 31 2009 06:34 Blue wrote:
this almost makes me wonder if the fantasy - bisu 3 - 0 OSL semi was rigged - _ - You mean cause Bisu didnt proxy in all 3 games? This show match sucked so hard it was funny, Im glad I didnt stay up for this. Id rather have seen Jangbi rape than this. Quesion: Why didnt Flash get the academy vs Bisu since he had so many marines? You just think that if people cheese they can't play straight-up, a mentality you probably got because you've been cheesed on ICCup and don't know how to stop it, still. + Show Spoiler +
No moron, Hes an extremely high level pro, no shit he knows how to play straight up, Theres countless games to atest to that fact, but this is a show/exhibition event watching 3 proxy's and a 12nex to dt drop, for 4 games in a PROFESSIONAL EXHIBITION series is a hella lame and boring.
So please your little ICCUP analogy is stupid and ridiculous and not to mention you pulled it out your ass with nothing to support it. Jesus first the MSL groups and now this, ugh.
So can anyone with brains comment on the Flash and no academy question I asked earlier?
I'm not a very good at Starcraft, but I'm guessing he wanted to go all-in when he noticed Bisu had two dragoons and some zealots, but since his Marine + SCV attack failed (which was surprising seeing that after he killed those zealots, it was ~12 marines and a couple of SCV vs. 2 dragoons and a few probes to distract fire) and with that many dragoons out on the field, he had to play a defensively for a while and probably had to get mechs out.
I think he would had a longer chance if he started building the academy after destroying that proxy gateway and played it safe instead of going all in. However, I think it would give Bisu the chance of getting more dragoons with range vs. Flash's m&m if he went for medics and he could just simply micro the marines out of the medic's healing range, so that plan would fail. Then again, the academy would also lead into a com station, but that would only be useful if his SCV scouted a CoA. Either way, I think he should have played it safe and build up on mechs after destroying the proxy.
Again, I'm not very good at Starcraft; just guessing.
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On March 31 2009 13:19 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 12:04 mog87 wrote:On March 31 2009 06:34 Blue wrote:
this almost makes me wonder if the fantasy - bisu 3 - 0 OSL semi was rigged - _ - You mean cause Bisu didnt proxy in all 3 games? This show match sucked so hard it was funny, Im glad I didnt stay up for this. Id rather have seen Jangbi rape than this. Quesion: Why didnt Flash get the academy vs Bisu since he had so many marines? You just think that if people cheese they can't play straight-up, a mentality you probably got because you've been cheesed on ICCup and don't know how to stop it, still.
Very well put. Bisu has proved many times he can play strong as hell standard + "harassy" type games very very well. Because he opted to do proxy's in this just shows that he was having fun. These all-star things are very light hearted.
I'm going to have to say this was a nice breathe of fresh air compared to the standard bisu we see. I love the proxy-robo + elevator he does on Colo (ala Bisu vs Skyhigh in GomS2) and his proxy gateway on Destination was scouted very early. In my opinion it was just a smart strategic move. It was early enough to force Flash to either build a bunker, a lot of marines (and risk losing them and scvs) or a second barracks. Once Flash broke out he was able to defend the attack by flash without losing goons which allowed for a game-ending counter attack. Brilliant play in my eyes. As unique as it was, it wasn't all-in.
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since when is proxy gate on desti brilliant or unique?
its practically the standard and theres nothing brilliant about it, you're just fucking retarded if you dont use it since its pretty much a guaranteed advantage.
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On March 31 2009 16:02 mog87 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 13:19 fanatacist wrote:On March 31 2009 12:04 mog87 wrote:On March 31 2009 06:34 Blue wrote:
this almost makes me wonder if the fantasy - bisu 3 - 0 OSL semi was rigged - _ - You mean cause Bisu didnt proxy in all 3 games? This show match sucked so hard it was funny, Im glad I didnt stay up for this. Id rather have seen Jangbi rape than this. Quesion: Why didnt Flash get the academy vs Bisu since he had so many marines? You just think that if people cheese they can't play straight-up, a mentality you probably got because you've been cheesed on ICCup and don't know how to stop it, still. No moron, Hes an extremely high level pro, no shit he knows how to play straight up, Theres countless games to atest to that fact, but this is a show/exhibition event watching 3 proxy's and a 12nex to dt drop, for 4 games in a PROFESSIONAL EXHIBITION series is a hella lame and boring. So please your little ICCUP analogy is stupid and ridiculous and not to mention you pulled it out your ass with nothing to support it. Jesus first the MSL groups and now this, ugh. So can anyone with brains comment on the Flash and no academy question I asked earlier?
Sorry, the fervor with which you were hating on seemingly any play besides a macro war led me to assume that you had a personal bias against cheese, probably through experience. I'm sure you react/feel the same way when someone does it to you. It's not too much of a stretch to believe that you're just a bitter asshole.
Or, you have Bisu/Protoss, but then again everyone does nowadays and whatever reasons you may have for it, good for you.
IMO Academy would be an investment of gas on stim, medics, and possibly range, which Flash did a cost-benefit analysis for and realized that the advantage he would potentially gain would not be as significant as the disadvantage of losing that early gas. EDIT: Or he was trying to pump as many units as possible for an offensive, acad/med/upgrades would slow that down both by taking away minerals and necessitating a pause for med/up.
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On March 31 2009 10:23 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 03:22 5tarscream wrote:On March 31 2009 00:23 Qwertify wrote:
Zerg > Protoss
and since Protoss > Terran,
then Zerg > Terran.
So, Zerg > All.
Also, since Bisu All-Killed the Terran team,
and sAviOr beat Bisu,
sAviOr can all-kill the Terran team as well.
That is logic. Do not argue. Fantasy > Luxury in Quarter [Edit]Final[Edit]. Luxury > Jangbi Based on your Logic, Fantasy > Jangbi Do you agree? Your logic has no mention of sAviOr, therefore it fails.
I'm glad someone here is aware of this. TY.
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On March 31 2009 20:49 IdrA wrote:
since when is proxy gate on desti brilliant or unique?
its practically the standard and theres nothing brilliant about it, you're just fucking retarded if you dont use it since its pretty much a guaranteed advantage.
Wow, well there you have it.
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omg flash was awesome game one;)
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On March 31 2009 12:03 deathgodtoss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 00:23 Qwertify wrote:
Zerg > Protoss
and since Protoss > Terran,
then Zerg > Terran.
So, Zerg > All.
Also, since Bisu All-Killed the Terran team,
and sAviOr beat Bisu,
sAviOr can all-kill the Terran team as well.
That is logic. Do not argue. win
ty
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should've saw that coming
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On March 31 2009 22:42 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2009 16:02 mog87 wrote:On March 31 2009 13:19 fanatacist wrote:On March 31 2009 12:04 mog87 wrote:On March 31 2009 06:34 Blue wrote:
this almost makes me wonder if the fantasy - bisu 3 - 0 OSL semi was rigged - _ - You mean cause Bisu didnt proxy in all 3 games? This show match sucked so hard it was funny, Im glad I didnt stay up for this. Id rather have seen Jangbi rape than this. Quesion: Why didnt Flash get the academy vs Bisu since he had so many marines? You just think that if people cheese they can't play straight-up, a mentality you probably got because you've been cheesed on ICCup and don't know how to stop it, still. No moron, Hes an extremely high level pro, no shit he knows how to play straight up, Theres countless games to atest to that fact, but this is a show/exhibition event watching 3 proxy's and a 12nex to dt drop, for 4 games in a PROFESSIONAL EXHIBITION series is a hella lame and boring. So please your little ICCUP analogy is stupid and ridiculous and not to mention you pulled it out your ass with nothing to support it. Jesus first the MSL groups and now this, ugh. So can anyone with brains comment on the Flash and no academy question I asked earlier? Sorry, the fervor with which you were hating on seemingly any play besides a macro war led me to assume that you had a personal bias against cheese, probably through experience. I'm sure you react/feel the same way when someone does it to you. It's not too much of a stretch to believe that you're just a bitter asshole. Or, you have Bisu/Protoss, but then again everyone does nowadays and whatever reasons you may have for it, good for you. IMO Academy would be an investment of gas on stim, medics, and possibly range, which Flash did a cost-benefit analysis for and realized that the advantage he would potentially gain would not be as significant as the disadvantage of losing that early gas. EDIT: Or he was trying to pump as many units as possible for an offensive, acad/med/upgrades would slow that down both by taking away minerals and necessitating a pause for med/up.
Again, you are trying some deep introspective analysis from like one post, when I clearly said its pretty lame that pretty much all the games were all like that for an exhibition series, Im not complaining about cheese in general or protoss etc. I just expected a little more from an exhibition series. It was quite a let down. However the original post I commented to was absurd to suggest that from the results of these matches, that the set vs fantasy was rigged, yet you chose to infer some deep hatred of protoss from it, which is quite silly.
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Watching the recast on OGN right now... have to say the Flash headshake in set 5 was priceless.
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EPT![[image loading]](http://www.fomos.kr/board/issue/1236907544_1.jpg)
Bisu, ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/125.jpg)
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Flash, ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/424.jpg)
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