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[MSL] NaDa vs Jangbi Quarterfinal C - Page 81

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cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
March 06 2009 04:38 GMT
#1601
anyone thinking that nada has a shot at taking down bisu in their winner's league game coming up this week?
kazokun
Profile Joined April 2008
United States163 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-06 04:43:03
March 06 2009 04:41 GMT
#1602
On March 06 2009 09:51 ProbeSaturation wrote:

You don't really understand why so many peope like Bisu?
Unnecessarily arrogant and acts like a tool?
wow...
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Am I missing something or are those not valid complaints?
Who wants to be a dragon when you can be Anytime? - Fontong
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9055 Posts
March 06 2009 04:50 GMT
#1603
Yeah Bisu is kind of an boring introvert person, but his play is enough to love him.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
March 06 2009 04:56 GMT
#1604
Am I crazy, or did Jangbi intentionally cause that mass Probe explosion at the end of Game 4? It looked to me like he knew he had lost, so he moved his Probes towards the Mine that he KNEW was there to cause a cute moment for the fans.
Zero fighting.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4653 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-06 04:59:09
March 06 2009 04:57 GMT
#1605
On March 06 2009 09:07 imperfect wrote:
how was the series guys? i forgot i had a test and couldn't watch the games

im really surprised that nada took jangbi to all 5 games, losing 3-2. no shame in that, losing to the top PvT (bisu's pvt is arguable.. but this is a jangbi vs nada thread). nada always surprises me..


Recommended games are game 1 and 5. The rest are sponsored by the company Kraft.
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[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
March 06 2009 05:05 GMT
#1606
On March 06 2009 13:57 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 09:07 imperfect wrote:
how was the series guys? i forgot i had a test and couldn't watch the games

im really surprised that nada took jangbi to all 5 games, losing 3-2. no shame in that, losing to the top PvT (bisu's pvt is arguable.. but this is a jangbi vs nada thread). nada always surprises me..


Recommended games are game 1 and 5. The rest are sponsored by the company Kraft.
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How could you NOT recommend games 3 and 4? It's one thing to be pissed at cheese games when there's 10 minutes of commercials in between, but another to just watch vods.

Game 4 especially featured incredible play on both sides.
Meh
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 06 2009 05:10 GMT
#1607
On March 06 2009 13:56 Jaksiel wrote:
Am I crazy, or did Jangbi intentionally cause that mass Probe explosion at the end of Game 4? It looked to me like he knew he had lost, so he moved his Probes towards the Mine that he KNEW was there to cause a cute moment for the fans.


Yeah, it seemed pretty clear that he did. The game was definitely over before that point, and he wasnt controlling anything at all until the last second. He was probably gonna type GG and then decided to move the probes over for the hell of it.

I mean, it's odd, but he moved the probes directly toward the mine by clicking on his gas, and then immediately types gg, and there was like 5 seconds of total inaction by him beforehand. He knew it was over, but Jangbi is still Jangbi, he's a cool guy

however I still have to keep up the charade, so fuck u jangbi!!!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
March 06 2009 05:13 GMT
#1608
On March 06 2009 13:56 Jaksiel wrote:
Am I crazy, or did Jangbi intentionally cause that mass Probe explosion at the end of Game 4? It looked to me like he knew he had lost, so he moved his Probes towards the Mine that he KNEW was there to cause a cute moment for the fans.


he was trying to snipe the mine.

And jangbi didn't cheese in any of them

Proxy 1 gate for early harass. This has been standard pvt on dest, look at best vs fbh. The proxy gate was never meant to win the game and even if scouted you can pull back to base and start fresh.

Proxy robotics, nada could have scouted that killed it and the game would be back to even
bisu fanboy
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 06 2009 05:18 GMT
#1609
On March 06 2009 14:13 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 13:56 Jaksiel wrote:
Am I crazy, or did Jangbi intentionally cause that mass Probe explosion at the end of Game 4? It looked to me like he knew he had lost, so he moved his Probes towards the Mine that he KNEW was there to cause a cute moment for the fans.


he was trying to snipe the mine.

And jangbi didn't cheese in any of them

Proxy 1 gate for early harass. This has been standard pvt on dest, look at best vs fbh. The proxy gate was never meant to win the game and even if scouted you can pull back to base and start fresh.

Proxy robotics, nada could have scouted that killed it and the game would be back to even


I'd really like to know what your definition of cheese is then.
BW forever || Thall
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-06 05:33:59
March 06 2009 05:30 GMT
#1610
On March 06 2009 14:18 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 14:13 fearus wrote:
On March 06 2009 13:56 Jaksiel wrote:
Am I crazy, or did Jangbi intentionally cause that mass Probe explosion at the end of Game 4? It looked to me like he knew he had lost, so he moved his Probes towards the Mine that he KNEW was there to cause a cute moment for the fans.


he was trying to snipe the mine.

And jangbi didn't cheese in any of them

Proxy 1 gate for early harass. This has been standard pvt on dest, look at best vs fbh. The proxy gate was never meant to win the game and even if scouted you can pull back to base and start fresh.

Proxy robotics, nada could have scouted that killed it and the game would be back to even


I'd really like to know what your definition of cheese is then.


I think the general consensus is that cheese is something like an all-in coinflip. 50% chance to win outright, 50% to throw the game away. Usually real cheese requires little skill in its execution. But there are exceptions of course.

Examples of cheese: 5pool, BBS, inside base gateways, any rush where you take all your workers to support the attack, [14CC]

14CC is put in brackets because some people might call it cheese, others won't. Personally I do think of it as cheese, cause if it is scouted you lose to some builds inevitably. Like 9pool/overpool for example. If you're lucky though, you've pretty much won the game, unless you do something really really stupid or your opponent has gone for a FE too.

Examples of non-cheese proxies: proxy robo, proxy gate (with gas steal), maybe proxy facs

Those usually aren't considered as cheese because if you fail, you can basically continue playing a straight up game. You may be at a disadvantage, but you won't lose the game outright. Also the goal of these buils is usually not to kill the opponent entirely, but to cause some early damage and thus secure yourself a (significant) lead in the game.

Of course there's a lot of in-between "cheesish" stuff. That's why this topic is "discussed" so often...
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
March 06 2009 05:33 GMT
#1611
On March 06 2009 13:50 Garnet wrote:
Yeah Bisu is kind of an boring introvert person, but his play is enough to love him.


Have you seen any of the behind-the-scenes movies of him? He seems like a fun guy, not introverted at all really. One video he was mackin' on two Japanese babes and he played a practical joke on them or something.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 06 2009 05:34 GMT
#1612
On March 06 2009 13:38 cunninglinguists wrote:
anyone thinking that nada has a shot at taking down bisu in their winner's league game coming up this week?

Bisu is invincible on Medusa, and Medusa is a nightmare for TvP. The last TvP game I saw NaDa play was that game vs. Free, and he prepared a really clever build for it but he fucked up anyway.

I dunno man.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
March 06 2009 05:41 GMT
#1613
On March 06 2009 14:33 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 13:50 Garnet wrote:
Yeah Bisu is kind of an boring introvert person, but his play is enough to love him.


Have you seen any of the behind-the-scenes movies of him? He seems like a fun guy, not introverted at all really. One video he was mackin' on two Japanese babes and he played a practical joke on them or something.

link
Anavrin
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada2 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-06 06:21:28
March 06 2009 06:20 GMT
#1614
Anavrin
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada2 Posts
March 06 2009 06:20 GMT
#1615
On March 06 2009 14:41 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 14:33 rushz0rz wrote:
On March 06 2009 13:50 Garnet wrote:
Yeah Bisu is kind of an boring introvert person, but his play is enough to love him.


Have you seen any of the behind-the-scenes movies of him? He seems like a fun guy, not introverted at all really. One video he was mackin' on two Japanese babes and he played a practical joke on them or something.

link


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bisu practical joke
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
March 06 2009 06:24 GMT
#1616
He either did it on purpose for the show. Or he was trying to surround the goon with probes to block the mine and it didnt work out. Either way jangbi knew the game was over before trying it.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
March 06 2009 06:25 GMT
#1617
On March 06 2009 13:38 cunninglinguists wrote:
anyone thinking that nada has a shot at taking down bisu in their winner's league game coming up this week?

Anything can happen. Odds are they won't even play each other? Or are they leading off?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-06 06:42:02
March 06 2009 06:41 GMT
#1618
On March 06 2009 08:39 theKnife wrote:
lol @ Bisu fan boys. I don't really understand why so many people like him.. he's unnecessarily arrogant and acts like a tool in many interviews I've seen/read.

Anyway, next time NaDa.. I believe in you :>

I don't see that at all when I read them. Maybe your bias/my bias distorts it too much.



Sigh, I didn't really think about this match-up so I wasn't cheering for anyone in particular but to see cheesy play from Jangbi makes me feel that the better player did not win today. All a matter of opinion though...

On March 06 2009 15:25 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 13:38 cunninglinguists wrote:
anyone thinking that nada has a shot at taking down bisu in their winner's league game coming up this week?

Anything can happen. Odds are they won't even play each other? Or are they leading off?

Yea, they're first
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 06 2009 06:50 GMT
#1619
On March 06 2009 14:30 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 14:18 Rostam wrote:
On March 06 2009 14:13 fearus wrote:
On March 06 2009 13:56 Jaksiel wrote:
Am I crazy, or did Jangbi intentionally cause that mass Probe explosion at the end of Game 4? It looked to me like he knew he had lost, so he moved his Probes towards the Mine that he KNEW was there to cause a cute moment for the fans.


he was trying to snipe the mine.

And jangbi didn't cheese in any of them

Proxy 1 gate for early harass. This has been standard pvt on dest, look at best vs fbh. The proxy gate was never meant to win the game and even if scouted you can pull back to base and start fresh.

Proxy robotics, nada could have scouted that killed it and the game would be back to even


I'd really like to know what your definition of cheese is then.


I think the general consensus is that cheese is something like an all-in coinflip. 50% chance to win outright, 50% to throw the game away. Usually real cheese requires little skill in its execution. But there are exceptions of course.

Examples of cheese: 5pool, BBS, inside base gateways, any rush where you take all your workers to support the attack, [14CC]

14CC is put in brackets because some people might call it cheese, others won't. Personally I do think of it as cheese, cause if it is scouted you lose to some builds inevitably. Like 9pool/overpool for example. If you're lucky though, you've pretty much won the game, unless you do something really really stupid or your opponent has gone for a FE too.

Examples of non-cheese proxies: proxy robo, proxy gate (with gas steal), maybe proxy facs

Those usually aren't considered as cheese because if you fail, you can basically continue playing a straight up game. You may be at a disadvantage, but you won't lose the game outright. Also the goal of these buils is usually not to kill the opponent entirely, but to cause some early damage and thus secure yourself a (significant) lead in the game.

Of course there's a lot of in-between "cheesish" stuff. That's why this topic is "discussed" so often...

why call it cheese if you're just gonna define it as allins?
5 pool and bbs and whatnot are allins
gay risky stuff is cheese (or in protoss' case, gay stuff that isnt really risky at all)
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 06 2009 08:14 GMT
#1620
On March 06 2009 09:51 ProbeSaturation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 08:39 theKnife wrote:
lol @ Bisu fan boys. I don't really understand why so many people like him.. he's unnecessarily arrogant and acts like a tool in many interviews I've seen/read.

Anyway, next time NaDa.. I believe in you :>


You don't really understand why so many peope like Bisu?
Unnecessarily arrogant and acts like a tool?
wow...
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.....
......
.......wow


You're not off to a good start here...
Peace~
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