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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
February 26 2009 00:18 GMT
#61
On February 26 2009 09:02 aers wrote:
Can you remove my link from the OP for now, I might not be able to stream tonight.

Note that Daum has been absolutely solid lately so you should be able to watch it there.

Also if I do stream it will probably be IRC only.

Are you referring to Daumsports or the actual Daumplayer
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
February 26 2009 00:19 GMT
#62
Whoever managed to get Jaedong as their practice partner should win this.
Graphics
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
February 26 2009 00:24 GMT
#63
The longer this goes, the better for MJY.

if Zero goes up 2-0, then i think he will take it by 3 or 4, but if it goes to game 5 zero will choke.

also if zero doesnt start strong hes toast.

so i guess advantange MJY.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
February 26 2009 00:27 GMT
#64
ZerO wins unless his nerves get to him. And seeing as this is the first time he's made it this far in a starleague that's a very real possibility.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
February 26 2009 00:42 GMT
#65
I hope zero wins this one.
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
February 26 2009 00:46 GMT
#66
On February 26 2009 09:42 Piste wrote:
I hope zero wins this one.

And you call yourself a fan of starcraft?
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
February 26 2009 00:47 GMT
#67
On February 26 2009 09:19 Sigrun wrote:
Whoever managed to get Jaedong as their practice partner should win this.

Or are absolutely crushed mentally because Jaedong raped them in practice. That's also a possibility.
KT_Violet
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
February 26 2009 00:49 GMT
#68
On February 26 2009 09:46 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2009 09:42 Piste wrote:
I hope zero wins this one.

And you call yourself a fan of starcraft?

being a "fan of starcraft" doesn't mean you have to like CJ or Savior
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
February 26 2009 00:51 GMT
#69
On February 26 2009 09:46 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2009 09:42 Piste wrote:
I hope zero wins this one.

And you call yourself a fan of starcraft?


I didn't realize Zero isn't allowed to have fans.
Zero fighting.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
February 26 2009 00:55 GMT
#70
On February 26 2009 09:46 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2009 09:42 Piste wrote:
I hope zero wins this one.

And you call yourself a fan of starcraft?


+ Show Spoiler +
I thought that only applied to Boxer


I'm thinking this Bo5 is going to go to a 5 set with a Savior win due to the fact that Zero hasn't been in a Bo5 in his career yet so the pressure will be immense. He even admitted to being pressured in his post-Yarnc match interview.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-26 00:57:50
February 26 2009 00:56 GMT
#71
On February 26 2009 07:49 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2009 07:46 mog87 wrote:
Uh guys seriously its a ZvZ whoever plays better that night and is more fortunate of the rock paper scissors draw will win, I personally think Zero will win, but seriously its a ZvZ your deep pseudo analytical theories for why savior will win dont particular hold much water.

This is a pretty meaningless match due to the nature of the matchup you cant really make any real presumptions about what will happen, nor will you likely be able to conclude anything after the dust clears.


Watch the phenomenon that was Jangbi vs Bisu Clubday MSL finals
PvP is also said to be a "rock paper scissors" matchup
I think, the player with more skill will take the game

Savior has been in much more clutch situations than ZeRO
He has also been in more high-pressure, situations that zero
i'm not saying zero sucks, more like savior is a better player


I'm sorry, but Zero is the MORE SKILLED player in this matchup. Savior has better game sense, better late game macro.. but none of them means anything in ZvZ. In ZvZ, micro reigns supreme. And Zero micro > Savior micro.

So saying that skill can break the paper-rock-scissors randomness of ZvZ applies to Zero, not Savior.

I'm interested to see if Zero will get hit by nerves. It seems to have stopped recently. And anyone who thinks that "New Player = lose game 5" must've forgotten a particular MSL game 5 which Savior got pwned by a noob.
Meh
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-26 01:12:09
February 26 2009 01:05 GMT
#72
On February 26 2009 09:56 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2009 07:49 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On February 26 2009 07:46 mog87 wrote:
Uh guys seriously its a ZvZ whoever plays better that night and is more fortunate of the rock paper scissors draw will win, I personally think Zero will win, but seriously its a ZvZ your deep pseudo analytical theories for why savior will win dont particular hold much water.

This is a pretty meaningless match due to the nature of the matchup you cant really make any real presumptions about what will happen, nor will you likely be able to conclude anything after the dust clears.


Watch the phenomenon that was Jangbi vs Bisu Clubday MSL finals
PvP is also said to be a "rock paper scissors" matchup
I think, the player with more skill will take the game

Savior has been in much more clutch situations than ZeRO
He has also been in more high-pressure, situations that zero
i'm not saying zero sucks, more like savior is a better player


I'm sorry, but Zero is the MORE SKILLED player in this matchup. Savior has better game sense, better late game macro.. but none of them means anything in ZvZ. In ZvZ, micro reigns supreme. And Zero micro > Savior micro.

So saying that skill can break the paper-rock-scissors randomness of ZvZ applies to Zero, not Savior.

I'm interested to see if Zero will get hit by nerves. It seems to have stopped recently. And anyone who thinks that "New Player = lose game 5" must've forgotten a particular MSL game 5 which Savior got pwned by a noob.

Zero is nothing compared to Mind. Mind is a much better player skill-wise and mentally.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 26 2009 01:20 GMT
#73
Oh my...4 pages already?

I stand by my original prediction: ZerO 3 > 1 sAviOr.
✌
Ichigo1234551
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States649 Posts
February 26 2009 01:23 GMT
#74
OH my god Ima stay up all night tonight
WE MUST BELIEVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I WILL DESTROY YOU IN 2009 OK???????????????
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 26 2009 01:28 GMT
#75
Prediction: Zero 3 > Savior 1
It would be cool if Savior pulls through, but I think Zero take it.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
February 26 2009 01:28 GMT
#76
On February 26 2009 10:05 3 Lions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2009 09:56 baubo wrote:
On February 26 2009 07:49 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On February 26 2009 07:46 mog87 wrote:
Uh guys seriously its a ZvZ whoever plays better that night and is more fortunate of the rock paper scissors draw will win, I personally think Zero will win, but seriously its a ZvZ your deep pseudo analytical theories for why savior will win dont particular hold much water.

This is a pretty meaningless match due to the nature of the matchup you cant really make any real presumptions about what will happen, nor will you likely be able to conclude anything after the dust clears.


Watch the phenomenon that was Jangbi vs Bisu Clubday MSL finals
PvP is also said to be a "rock paper scissors" matchup
I think, the player with more skill will take the game

Savior has been in much more clutch situations than ZeRO
He has also been in more high-pressure, situations that zero
i'm not saying zero sucks, more like savior is a better player


I'm sorry, but Zero is the MORE SKILLED player in this matchup. Savior has better game sense, better late game macro.. but none of them means anything in ZvZ. In ZvZ, micro reigns supreme. And Zero micro > Savior micro.

So saying that skill can break the paper-rock-scissors randomness of ZvZ applies to Zero, not Savior.

I'm interested to see if Zero will get hit by nerves. It seems to have stopped recently. And anyone who thinks that "New Player = lose game 5" must've forgotten a particular MSL game 5 which Savior got pwned by a noob.

Zero is nothing compared to Mind. Mind is a much better player skill-wise and mentally.


Are you saying you can predict the future and knows Zero's career path from here? Or are you saying that Mind was actually favored to would walk over both Savior and Bisu to win GOMS3MSL due to his "skill" and "mental fortitude" back in 2007?
Meh
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8141 Posts
February 26 2009 01:32 GMT
#77
I think if this series had any other zerg but savior the thread would still only be half a page long lol
Free Palestine
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
February 26 2009 01:32 GMT
#78
My gut tells me Savior is gonna be up 2-0 and proceed to lose it 2-3 crushing my dreams of a Nada vs. Savior final.
this is my quote.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
February 26 2009 01:38 GMT
#79
On February 26 2009 10:28 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2009 10:05 3 Lions wrote:
On February 26 2009 09:56 baubo wrote:
On February 26 2009 07:49 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On February 26 2009 07:46 mog87 wrote:
Uh guys seriously its a ZvZ whoever plays better that night and is more fortunate of the rock paper scissors draw will win, I personally think Zero will win, but seriously its a ZvZ your deep pseudo analytical theories for why savior will win dont particular hold much water.

This is a pretty meaningless match due to the nature of the matchup you cant really make any real presumptions about what will happen, nor will you likely be able to conclude anything after the dust clears.


Watch the phenomenon that was Jangbi vs Bisu Clubday MSL finals
PvP is also said to be a "rock paper scissors" matchup
I think, the player with more skill will take the game

Savior has been in much more clutch situations than ZeRO
He has also been in more high-pressure, situations that zero
i'm not saying zero sucks, more like savior is a better player


I'm sorry, but Zero is the MORE SKILLED player in this matchup. Savior has better game sense, better late game macro.. but none of them means anything in ZvZ. In ZvZ, micro reigns supreme. And Zero micro > Savior micro.

So saying that skill can break the paper-rock-scissors randomness of ZvZ applies to Zero, not Savior.

I'm interested to see if Zero will get hit by nerves. It seems to have stopped recently. And anyone who thinks that "New Player = lose game 5" must've forgotten a particular MSL game 5 which Savior got pwned by a noob.

Zero is nothing compared to Mind. Mind is a much better player skill-wise and mentally.


Are you saying you can predict the future and knows Zero's career path from here? Or are you saying that Mind was actually favored to would walk over both Savior and Bisu to win GOMS3MSL due to his "skill" and "mental fortitude" back in 2007?

What I'm saying is that I don't think that Zero has what it takes to win an MSL and play consistently for a long period of time.
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
February 26 2009 01:38 GMT
#80
Sorry if this was already asked, but... What time does it start?
What are you tinkering about?
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