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On February 26 2009 07:18 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am really excited that savior is at least somewhat back, but I agree that his strengths are his game sense and his clever macro. Unfortunately these are both minimized in ZvZ. Too bad his MSL run hinges on such a "rock paper scissor" match-up.
finally a voice of reason
Savior is showing a shadow of his former skill
rather than the polished shiny savior of 2005
he is showing a new dirty GET 'ER DONE KICKASS CUBAN GANSTER VERSION 2.0
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I don't know if I can watch this match live, my nerves might explode
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The mutalisks of Kim Myung Eun make-up the army of hell itself.
Unless sAviOr pulls some genius shit he will get raped.
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On February 26 2009 07:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 07:18 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am really excited that savior is at least somewhat back, but I agree that his strengths are his game sense and his clever macro. Unfortunately these are both minimized in ZvZ. Too bad his MSL run hinges on such a "rock paper scissor" match-up. finally a voice of reason Savior is showing a shadow of his former skill rather than the polished shiny savior of 2005 he is showing a new dirty GET 'ER DONE KICKASS CUBAN GANSTER VERSION 2.0
Get 'Er Done Kickass Cuban Gangster is his new nickname.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On February 26 2009 07:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 07:18 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am really excited that savior is at least somewhat back, but I agree that his strengths are his game sense and his clever macro. Unfortunately these are both minimized in ZvZ. Too bad his MSL run hinges on such a "rock paper scissor" match-up. finally a voice of reason Savior is showing a shadow of his former skill rather than the polished shiny savior of 2005 he is showing a new dirty GET 'ER DONE KICKASS CUBAN GANSTER VERSION 2.0
Savior is actually a better player than he was in 2005-2007. He's just playing against players with much better mechanics (Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, etc.). So, he has to make up for that with his game sense, which will be minimalized by the ZvZ matchup. Zero really isn't better than Savior at ZvZ imo, so that's why I think Savior will win.
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Crap I won't be able to watch live  I hope these games are good. I enjoy ZvZ but only in WL or ro16 and lower. I don't think that ZvZ is good for important games like ro8's, ro4's and finals they are too short and are too much of a rock, paper, scissor MU.
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If GGPlay was still CJ Zero would have nobody. NOBODY! Let's hope Savior takes this 3-0. No point having an epicly drawn out zvz bo5 imo. I just want Savior in semis!
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On February 26 2009 07:24 3 Lions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 07:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On February 26 2009 07:18 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am really excited that savior is at least somewhat back, but I agree that his strengths are his game sense and his clever macro. Unfortunately these are both minimized in ZvZ. Too bad his MSL run hinges on such a "rock paper scissor" match-up. finally a voice of reason Savior is showing a shadow of his former skill rather than the polished shiny savior of 2005 he is showing a new dirty GET 'ER DONE KICKASS CUBAN GANSTER VERSION 2.0 Savior is actually a better player than he was in 2005-2007. He's just playing against players with much better mechanics (Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, etc.). So, he has to make up for that with his game sense, which will be minimalized by the ZvZ matchup. Zero really isn't better than Savior at ZvZ imo, so that's why I think Savior will win.
He actually has some pretty ridiculous micro ability, it's his late-game multi-task that suffers.
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On February 26 2009 07:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 07:18 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am really excited that savior is at least somewhat back, but I agree that his strengths are his game sense and his clever macro. Unfortunately these are both minimized in ZvZ. Too bad his MSL run hinges on such a "rock paper scissor" match-up. finally a voice of reason Savior is showing a shadow of his former skill rather than the polished shiny savior of 2005 he is showing a new dirty GET 'ER DONE KICKASS CUBAN GANSTER VERSION 2.0
I don't know if it is just a shadow, I mean he did win 9 in a row.
Also, when he beat Bisu and Leta he played down right amazing.
But yeah, he isn't quite up to the standard he set before.
Does anyone really think though that he is a favorite to win the MSL? Not that I wouldn't make love to a man for it to happen, but some other players look really tough.
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Hey everybody, I'm new to this site and was wondering what time this tourney will be streamed live. Or have I already missed it? It gets confusing with the time difference since I'm in Atlantic Canada. Thanks! 
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On February 26 2009 07:35 DarkIce101 wrote:Hey everybody, I'm new to this site and was wondering what time this tourney will be streamed live. Or have I already missed it? It gets confusing with the time difference since I'm in Atlantic Canada. Thanks!
It will be streamed at 4:30 on the North American east coast.
edit: in the morning, just for clarification
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On February 26 2009 07:35 DarkIce101 wrote:Hey everybody, I'm new to this site and was wondering what time this tourney will be streamed live. Or have I already missed it? It gets confusing with the time difference since I'm in Atlantic Canada. Thanks!
hey, TL's time is set to Korean Standard Tim (KST) but you can set your own time zone by clicking on "Time" (top right corner)
edit : or not ? It seemed to work in the past :[
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Savior is gonna 3-0 this easy
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On February 26 2009 07:33 Trezeguet23 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 07:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On February 26 2009 07:18 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am really excited that savior is at least somewhat back, but I agree that his strengths are his game sense and his clever macro. Unfortunately these are both minimized in ZvZ. Too bad his MSL run hinges on such a "rock paper scissor" match-up. finally a voice of reason Savior is showing a shadow of his former skill rather than the polished shiny savior of 2005 he is showing a new dirty GET 'ER DONE KICKASS CUBAN GANSTER VERSION 2.0 I don't know if it is just a shadow, I mean he did win 9 in a row. Also, when he beat Bisu and Leta he played down right amazing. But yeah, he isn't quite up to the standard he set before. Does anyone really think though that he is a favorite to win the MSL? Not that I wouldn't make love to a man for it to happen, but some other players look really tough.
agreed. I'm just saying that the domination Savior showed 2005-2007 completly overshadows a 9 game win streak. (Which is amazing, don't take it the wrong way)
Well. There are a fuckton of Savior fanboys who are out there screaming for an MSL win. But you have to look at the field he's playing in.
ZerO is a competent player, and ZvZ is "rock paper scissors" enough to crush Savior's dreams
you also have to realise there is a hugee talent depth right now in the MSL
Hwasin, Leta, Nada to name a few, are on a warpath and lighting shit on fire with their eyes. Each could potentially give savior a run for his money..
that aside, i will wholeheartedly root for Bisu in the OSL and Savior in the MSL.
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On February 26 2009 07:24 3 Lions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 07:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On February 26 2009 07:18 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am really excited that savior is at least somewhat back, but I agree that his strengths are his game sense and his clever macro. Unfortunately these are both minimized in ZvZ. Too bad his MSL run hinges on such a "rock paper scissor" match-up. finally a voice of reason Savior is showing a shadow of his former skill rather than the polished shiny savior of 2005 he is showing a new dirty GET 'ER DONE KICKASS CUBAN GANSTER VERSION 2.0 Savior is actually a better player than he was in 2005-2007. He's just playing against players with much better mechanics (Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, etc.). So, he has to make up for that with his game sense, which will be minimalized by the ZvZ matchup. Zero really isn't better than Savior at ZvZ imo, so that's why I think Savior will win.
Exactly. I don't know why people say Savior is a shadow of his former self. Savior not dominating doesn't mean he's playing worse than before, it's just that competition has got much harder... although I'm not really sure if he's in fact better than before, that could be debatable.
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Anybody want to date us on the most recent ZvZ quarterfinal? I'll take a stab, I think it's the Gorush-July one in MBC's MSL season 2 (Bisu's second MSL).
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On February 26 2009 07:41 thunk wrote:
Anybody want to date us on the most recent ZvZ quarterfinal? I'll take a stab, I think it's the Gorush-July one in MBC's MSL season 2 (Bisu's second MSL).
correct. I also remember a Jaedong vs Luxury Bo3 in Arena MSL
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On February 26 2009 07:42 3 Lions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 07:41 thunk wrote:
Anybody want to date us on the most recent ZvZ quarterfinal? I'll take a stab, I think it's the Gorush-July one in MBC's MSL season 2 (Bisu's second MSL). correct. I also remember a Jaedong vs Luxury Bo3 in Arena MSL
but was that a quaterfinal?
lets make this harder
ever see a ZvZ MSL/OSL final??
boo yah
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On February 26 2009 07:43 DreaM)XeRO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 07:42 3 Lions wrote:On February 26 2009 07:41 thunk wrote:
Anybody want to date us on the most recent ZvZ quarterfinal? I'll take a stab, I think it's the Gorush-July one in MBC's MSL season 2 (Bisu's second MSL). correct. I also remember a Jaedong vs Luxury Bo3 in Arena MSL but was that a quaterfinal? lets make this harder ever see a ZvZ MSL/OSL final?? boo yah
Savior vs Chojja, Savior vs Silver in MSL
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On February 26 2009 07:44 3 Lions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 07:43 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On February 26 2009 07:42 3 Lions wrote:On February 26 2009 07:41 thunk wrote:
Anybody want to date us on the most recent ZvZ quarterfinal? I'll take a stab, I think it's the Gorush-July one in MBC's MSL season 2 (Bisu's second MSL). correct. I also remember a Jaedong vs Luxury Bo3 in Arena MSL but was that a quaterfinal? lets make this harder ever see a ZvZ MSL/OSL final?? boo yah Savior vs Chojja, Savior vs Silver in MSL
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pwned
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