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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
February 18 2009 10:05 GMT
#121
Here we go Leta, I still believe!
Shin Sang Moon hwaiting!!!
brood war for life, brood war forever
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-18 10:05:51
February 18 2009 10:05 GMT
#122
On February 18 2009 18:57 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2009 18:54 Baddieko wrote:
stork can't even pvz lol

umm

What exactly could he have done?

He already had to build 4-5 cannons at his front, lost his +1 upgrade and his timing was thrown off.

You expect him when facing a 4 hat hard hydra build, to build 2 cannons in his main also, while getting robo/obs/templar/storm....

Julyzerg completely fucked his build, which is his talent, stork is just fine pvz .... Julyzerg is the second best zerg of all time at beating protoss ...


You mean THE BEST
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 18 2009 10:05 GMT
#123
On February 18 2009 19:01 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2009 18:59 darktreb wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:57 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:54 Baddieko wrote:
stork can't even pvz lol

umm

What exactly could he have done?

He already had to build 4-5 cannons at his front, lost his +1 upgrade and his timing was thrown off.

You expect him when facing a 4 hat hard hydra build, to build 2 cannons in his main also, while getting robo/obs/templar/storm....

Julyzerg completely fucked his build, which is his talent, stork is just fine pvz .... Julyzerg is the second best zerg of all time at beating protoss ...


I'm curious - who do you put #1? Does JD's modern dominance give him the edge over the Maestro's absolute reign of terror?



When I say All-Time I'm not stating an opinion, so it has to be savior. Everyone else I could list would techinically be subjective and debatable, savior has the best % vs protoss of all time by a decent margin


Why does everyone forget July's ZvP ratio?

The guy hasn't lost a Box to a protoss and has a nearly 70% win rate against them...
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 18 2009 10:05 GMT
#124
On February 18 2009 19:03 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2009 19:01 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:59 darktreb wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:57 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:54 Baddieko wrote:
stork can't even pvz lol

umm

What exactly could he have done?

He already had to build 4-5 cannons at his front, lost his +1 upgrade and his timing was thrown off.

You expect him when facing a 4 hat hard hydra build, to build 2 cannons in his main also, while getting robo/obs/templar/storm....

Julyzerg completely fucked his build, which is his talent, stork is just fine pvz .... Julyzerg is the second best zerg of all time at beating protoss ...


I'm curious - who do you put #1? Does JD's modern dominance give him the edge over the Maestro's absolute reign of terror?



When I say All-Time I'm not stating an opinion, so it has to be savior. Everyone else I could list would techinically be subjective and debatable, savior has the best % vs protoss of all time by a decent margin

wtf

Savior's peak zvp ELO is 2270.
July's peak is 2219.
Jaedong's peak is 2204.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
February 18 2009 10:05 GMT
#125
july owns toss, thats the truth, savior had amazing streak which ended with the MSL finals vs bisu. best's pvp streak doesnt make him better in this MU than both stork and bisu
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
February 18 2009 10:05 GMT
#126
I think Savior's absolute invincibility in the matchup for a good year and a half (actually more than that if you subtract Bisu) makes him the best ever, but like others have pointed out, the numbers actually don't have him at #1.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 18 2009 10:06 GMT
#127
Savior's prime zvp win% of like 87% was pretty good, though.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-18 10:09:07
February 18 2009 10:06 GMT
#128
On February 18 2009 19:03 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2009 19:01 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:59 darktreb wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:57 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:54 Baddieko wrote:
stork can't even pvz lol

umm

What exactly could he have done?

He already had to build 4-5 cannons at his front, lost his +1 upgrade and his timing was thrown off.

You expect him when facing a 4 hat hard hydra build, to build 2 cannons in his main also, while getting robo/obs/templar/storm....

Julyzerg completely fucked his build, which is his talent, stork is just fine pvz .... Julyzerg is the second best zerg of all time at beating protoss ...


I'm curious - who do you put #1? Does JD's modern dominance give him the edge over the Maestro's absolute reign of terror?



When I say All-Time I'm not stating an opinion, so it has to be savior. Everyone else I could list would techinically be subjective and debatable, savior has the best % vs protoss of all time by a decent margin

July vP: 80-37 (68.38%)
Savior vP: 63-32 (66.32%)


Well fuck me.

I thought savior was 68% and july 66%

I take that back, julyzerg is the best vP of all time by a decent %

Yes over the course of this many years, 2% is a decent margin...


Edit: I don't care about elo peaks, I care about active gamers, career %'s.

When I look at world champions in chess, I only use elo to compare active vs inactive... Comparing elo peaks of active players, when statistics themselves spell the truth ...... .

I didn't forgot julys ratio, I just flipped it with saviors
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-18 10:07:37
February 18 2009 10:06 GMT
#129
On February 18 2009 19:05 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2009 19:03 disciple wrote:
On February 18 2009 19:01 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:59 darktreb wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:57 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 18 2009 18:54 Baddieko wrote:
stork can't even pvz lol

umm

What exactly could he have done?

He already had to build 4-5 cannons at his front, lost his +1 upgrade and his timing was thrown off.

You expect him when facing a 4 hat hard hydra build, to build 2 cannons in his main also, while getting robo/obs/templar/storm....

Julyzerg completely fucked his build, which is his talent, stork is just fine pvz .... Julyzerg is the second best zerg of all time at beating protoss ...


I'm curious - who do you put #1? Does JD's modern dominance give him the edge over the Maestro's absolute reign of terror?



When I say All-Time I'm not stating an opinion, so it has to be savior. Everyone else I could list would techinically be subjective and debatable, savior has the best % vs protoss of all time by a decent margin

wtf

Savior's peak zvp ELO is 2270.
July's peak is 2219.
Jaedong's peak is 2204.


exactly, savior was on a big winning streak, thats why his elo in zvp is so high. july is far more consistent in the MU
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Oedi
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada265 Posts
February 18 2009 10:06 GMT
#130
the boothgirls... remind me that asian girls have small boobs
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 18 2009 10:07 GMT
#131
On February 18 2009 19:05 disciple wrote:
july owns toss, thats the truth, savior had amazing streak which ended with the MSL finals vs bisu. best's pvp streak doesnt make him better in this MU than both stork and bisu

Trivia: Savior's longest ZvP winning streak occured after his 0-3 vs Bisu.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
February 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#132
July's build was pure genius. He made sure Stork saw the 4hatch before gas so he would skimp on cannons in his main, just so the tech switch to mutas would devastate him.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Rigodon666
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada183 Posts
February 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#133
On February 18 2009 19:06 Oedi wrote:
the boothgirls... remind me that asian girls have small boobs


gross
I'll call the guy who will call Nada
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
February 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#134
ok we'll see if tester can abuse medusa to get a win
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
February 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#135
i keep getting kicked out of the HQ stream and can't get into the regular one ;_;
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
February 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#136
Tester has one game to save his career.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
February 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#137
I don't think people give enough credit to this badass intro.
Roxen000
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
1226 Posts
February 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#138
Is this being played on YY or anywhere else other then OP streams?
._.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 18 2009 10:09 GMT
#139
July also has a golden mouse, I think that qualifies him as 2nd best Zerg.
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
February 18 2009 10:09 GMT
#140
July made that look so easy.
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
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