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On November 23 2008 23:26 Pholon wrote:
I know Berserker loves vultures but why couldnt he get just one goli out to get rid of the shuttle T_T
Anyway, 5 hours of watching Starcraft. damn.
very true!
I was watching that shuttle flying over his base and then his army , it was so weird that he didnt atleast build one goli or wraith.
Actualy last game I think Zerker had it, but kind of put himself in a bad position when he went up that ramp (where the temples were) , only one tank can fit there at a time and he ended up blocking off his own vultures.
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PvT stats
Neo Requiem: 27-8 (77.1%)
Medusa: 11-4 (73.3%)
Destination: 16-11 (59.3%)
Dear GOM, you may have the best Starcraft casting in the world, but even monkeys would choose better maps.
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On November 23 2008 23:47 adelarge wrote:
PvT stats
Neo Requiem: 27-8 (77.1%)
Medusa: 11-4 (73.3%)
Destination: 16-11 (59.3%)
Dear GOM, you may have the best Starcraft casting in the world, but even monkeys would choose better maps.
Hahahahaha!
Iris played very good and aggresively ,but it was not enough to win 
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The rock's play on Medusa was one of the more comical things I've seen in a while. Glad I went back and watched it. Painful, but funny!
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Belgium9950 Posts
Maps are so bad for terrans, jesus christ
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I really thought that Requiem will favour terran vs protoss, because the distances between the mains are usually short and one can be easily contained in his base because of the reverse cliff, which forces 1 base vs 1 base play which I thought is good for the terran, not mentioning that if terran contains you its auto gg
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On November 24 2008 00:23 RaGe wrote:
Maps are so bad for terrans, jesus christ
not that good for Zergs either
+ Show Spoiler + only 1 zerg advanced to RO16 and even that is through mirror game, perhaps we see maybe jaedong going through next week. At least terran has more players advancing
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On November 23 2008 23:47 adelarge wrote:
PvT stats
Neo Requiem: 27-8 (77.1%)
Medusa: 11-4 (73.3%)
Destination: 16-11 (59.3%)
Dear GOM, you may have the best Starcraft casting in the world, but even monkeys would choose better maps.
I remembered GSI having rather bad PvT maps as well, like Katrina.
Despite Katrina being played twice in the final, GSI had a terran winner.
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Tasteless plays Protoss, Susie plays protoss, Garimto is a korean caster... hmmm.
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On November 24 2008 02:51 Shikyo wrote:
Tasteless plays Protoss, Susie plays protoss, Garimto is a korean caster... hmmm.
Well.. observers are protoss units right?
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On November 23 2008 23:47 adelarge wrote:
PvT stats
Neo Requiem: 27-8 (77.1%)
Medusa: 11-4 (73.3%)
Destination: 16-11 (59.3%)
Dear GOM, you may have the best Starcraft casting in the world, but even monkeys would choose better maps.
How much of that is map, and how much is that due to protosses all being awesome right now?
I don't believe that outside some extreme maps like Harmony and Raid Assault 2, there's a single map that doesn't look protoss biased from a simple record standpoint. All the maps currently in use in the PL, MSL, and the OSL are also statistically protoss favored in PvTs. You can't just blame GOM for this.
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Still, inability to build turrets in the middle in Medusa really hurts terrans.
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On November 23 2008 23:31 ahole-surprise wrote:
It's funny that you assume I'm a red sox fan. Yankees hate is everywhere.
I'm not assuming you are a Red Sox fan, point being ESPN hyped the crap out of them when I think most fans generally care about them as much as the Yankees (ie, not that much). Point being, ESPN is hardly unbiased... they also love the SEC.
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On November 24 2008 02:57 baubo wrote:
How much of that is map, and how much is that due to protosses all being awesome right now?
I don't believe that outside some extreme maps like Harmony and Raid Assault 2, there's a single map that doesn't look protoss biased from a simple record standpoint. All the maps currently in use in the PL, MSL, and the OSL are also statistically protoss favored in PvTs. You can't just blame GOM for this.
Look at Neo Requiem. This map is played since 2005. It's 3-4 years old map and it was protoss favored since then. Seriously, if you have new map like Medusa, which has over 70% PvT, why the hell from all old maps add ANOTHER over 70% one?? It's not like that have to, it is? But it seems than GOM has a lovely habit to include old PvT imbalanced maps since GOMTV Star Invitational (Baekmagoji), so why not continue?
Look at Medusa. 4 wins for Terrans. It looks bad as it is, but worse - 3 of them belong to one player, Flash...one of the very best players who ever lays his hand of Starcraft. And 2 wins are over second rate players and one is a cheese against Bisu...
I have nothing against Destination (yet  ), it's 60% PvT stats are not that singificant looking at actual games...
And I can blame GOM for this. They did it with Katrina and Baekmagoji in GOMTV Star Invitational and they are doing this again now. One or two maps can be a fluke but this? This is idiocy in its purest form...
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On November 24 2008 03:54 adelarge wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2008 02:57 baubo wrote:
How much of that is map, and how much is that due to protosses all being awesome right now?
I don't believe that outside some extreme maps like Harmony and Raid Assault 2, there's a single map that doesn't look protoss biased from a simple record standpoint. All the maps currently in use in the PL, MSL, and the OSL are also statistically protoss favored in PvTs. You can't just blame GOM for this.
Look at Neo Requiem. This map is played since 2005. It's 3-4 years old map and it was protoss favored since then. Seriously, if you have new map like Medusa, which has over 70% PvT, why the hell from all old maps add ANOTHER over 70% one?? It's not like that have to, it is? But it seems than GOM has a lovely habit to include old PvT imbalanced maps since GOMTV Star Invitational (Baekmagoji), so why not continue? Look at Medusa. 4 wins for Terrans. It looks bad as it is, but worse - 3 of them belong to one player, Flash...one of the very best players who ever lays his hand of Starcraft. And 2 wins are over second rate players and one is a cheese against Bisu... I have nothing against Destination (yet ), it's 60% PvT stats are not that singificant looking at actual games... And I can blame GOM for this. They did it with Katrina and Baekmagoji in GOMTV Star Invitational and they are doing this again now. One or two maps can be a fluke but this? This is idiocy in its purest form...
I guess this speaks volumes for how good Jaedong and Flash are then, eh?
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Just watched the VODs, all were great series.
ROCK > bogus > fbh > savior > mvp > frozean > jaedong > flash > stork > best
Rock is next bonjwa?
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On November 24 2008 03:53 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2008 23:31 ahole-surprise wrote:
It's funny that you assume I'm a red sox fan. Yankees hate is everywhere. I'm not assuming you are a Red Sox fan, point being ESPN hyped the crap out of them when I think most fans generally care about them as much as the Yankees (ie, not that much). Point being, ESPN is hardly unbiased... they also love the SEC.
Ok I guess there was some miscommunication. Since I was referring to the commentary, I was referring to something like Sunday night baseball with Jon Miller and Joe Morgan. Joe Morgan is biased towards the Reds but he's an idiot in general. However, if Jon Miller started favoring a team, it would look really unprofessional and stupid.
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United States13896 Posts
i was only able to stay awake through the first game of Rock/Bogus - any recommended VOD's?
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