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Hungary11232 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Matchups] + Read the huge recap and preview by Manifesto7 and Plexa.
+ Show Spoiler [Pregame Thoughts] +The Fight for Survival or: Threeway mirror and a Vulture raid.
Today is the moderate day in OSL. There are not as many badge-holders and former superstars thrown around like they will be on Friday. There are mostly mirror games. Everything is fine.
Not everything is fine. There will be eight players out there, and they are fighting for their lives. The mirrors go from the traditionally most static (TvT) to the most dynamic (ZvZ), topping the day off with an exciting PvT.
First off is a Terran mirror among the two most consistent Terrans of recent times. Proleague Monster Sea vs. "I-destroy-everything"-Monster Flash. Sea has a TvT career record of 65.57%. Flash has burst through to a whopping 68.75%. They met in Proleague recently with Flash coming out on top and leading KTF to a clean victory over the Heroes. Technically, Sea has no chance. He is known to be folding under pressure, and Flash is just on too much of a run to slow down in this passage. He won't let himself be endangered to slip into Playoff games, where some lucky cheese can throw him off. He will prevail. But Sea can live off the magnitude of opposing odds - nobody expects him to win, so he can play with a clean mind.
The second match of the day features two of the would-be protoss prodigies of modern times. They both have a history of beating their "the next big Protoss"-ancestor, as both already overcame the (formerly) most feared PvP-Player on the planet, Stork. BeSt is, solely looking at stats, the favourite in this matchup, but Jangbi has shown skills he was never estimated to possess in advance. This one will be close.
Rumble vs. Luxury makes for yet another interesting ZvZ in our most dearly beloved group. The maths of this group are dead easy: Winner gets to the next round, July is already qualified as 1st of the group. Can Luxury whip out his formerly 2nd best ZvZ in progaming? Can Rumble prove the new "If it is SKT1, bet on it" doctrine?
Mind vs. Much is the final match, and for me it is the most anticipated. Grandpatoss appeared to have some sort of renaissance when beating Bisu, not to mention he made it out of the "civil war" group in the MSL, stepping over Jangbi and Anytime. Mind on the other side has an especially artful TvP to watch - and that alone should provide for amazing entertainment. The group is tied 1-1 for everyone, so the doctrine is as simple as group C: Win it, and you're in it. + Show Spoiler [Results] +Sea < Flash ---> Flash advances as A1! JangBi < BeSt ---> Best advances as B1! Rumble < Luxury ---> Luxury advances as C2! Mind < Much ---> Much advances to Ro8, which rank is decided Friday! Some further Info: In group A, Sea will have to hope for GGplay to beat Rock. In that case, there will be a 3-way playoff with one getting through. In group B, Jangbi is in the same situation: He has to hope for Stork beating Nada, then Jangbi, Nada, and Stork will play the 3-way. Group C is decided. In group D, the winner of Bisu vs. Backho joins Much for the Ro8. If I understand the system correctly, Bisu would go as D2 (lost against Much), Backho as D1 (won against Much).
How to watch
- Yaoyuan should work, with some delay to the Daum stream. Works only in IE and requires the TVAnts plugin (dl here)
- If you have a good connection, use the Daum player (guide here)
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no live reports for this osl day?
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watching, looks like the first match will start soon
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Ty for posting the how to watch thing!
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Osaka26947 Posts
It hasnt started yet.
Quality OP btw.
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GO Sea! Go Best! Go Lux! :-)
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Sea won't choke, but Flash will most likely kick his ass anyway :-) Stil... SEA FTW!
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Game one starting
Sea is red at 7 Flash is blue at 2
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Osaka26947 Posts
Flash vs Sea on Andromeda
woooo...
Red Sea @7 vs Blue Flash @1
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Flash at 2 ( blue terran ) Sea at 8 ( red terran )
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Osaka26947 Posts
ok patrio do it, ima chat with steve.
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Yao works on OSL day... its a damn miracle!
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little scared that sea would win against flash
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On May 28 2008 19:44 Manifesto7 wrote: ok patrio do it, ima chat with steve.
aiai cptn
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Hungary11232 Posts
Sea is doing a "moderate proxy".
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sea makes a rax outside his nat, flash goes 1rax into fast exp + bunker. Sea has two marines at flashes nat but flash has no units yet so he can do some damage. Stream died
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Both go FE. Sea also bunker rushes and forces flash to cancel CC. Flash has a tank out.
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wait, it was sea who made a bunker lol, Flash runs a vulture by to do some harass and builds a tank to take care of the bunker rush. Flash had to cancel his fast cc so his rebuilding it in his main. Sea has used his early pressure to get his nat up
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Flash reexpands to his nat. Sea has 2 facs, 1 port, armory building. Flash seems behind
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GJ! GO SEA! keep the presure!
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Sea has 2fac with addon and pumping tanks and adding a starport, Flash has 2fac, one with addon and pumping tanks and gols. Sea is building addon on starport for drop, flash is doing the same
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Dropship out for sea. Flies to flash choke and drops on cliff near.
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Hungary11232 Posts
Sea definitely started mining at his expansion WAY earlier than Flash could - Flash only had the advantage of earlier fac and machine shop but that does not count for much.
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Really great opening from Sea. Big advantage for him. Flash might out play him anyways though
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Flash succesfully defends
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Flash destroying any attempt that Sea is making against him.
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Sea has a dropship, 3 tanks and some marines outside flashes nat, looking do some damage. He drops his units on the legde but flash responds with tankdrop on same legde. Flash kills of the drop. flash has 4fac and is running scvs all over the map, to scout
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Sea already has 9 base working. 3 dships for sea. Flash pushes to 9! Big clash Flash comes out on top it seems
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Flash finds seas 3rd and drops tanks outside to kill it, Sea runs some gols and tanks up to save it but flash has to many tanks, and forces sea to run scvs away. Sea is reinforcing but so is flash
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Sea uses SCVs to defend but fails. He will lose 9.
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sea going down
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Wow flash...its so clear how m uch better he is than Sea lol.
I feel sorry for Mind.
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Flash kills 9 and has expanded at 3
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3 bases for flash, 2 for Sea now, though he is reconstructing 9.
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Flash flies damaged units back to base to repair, and is setting up to defend 3, Sea is rebuilding 9.
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Hungary11232 Posts
Flash really with amazing dropship play and punishes Sea's lack of meaningful antiair.
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LMAO@THAT BATTLE. HOLY SHIT.
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Oov-like size army from Flash kills everything on its way. GG
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flash is building turrets all over the right side of the map and is looking to expand at 5. Meanwhile he is sending lots of gools and tanks to 9 and kills it again. Sea is not responding fast enough
Sea ggs
rape
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Flash wins again, unstoppable
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On May 28 2008 19:57 VioleTAK wrote: This... is... Flash... Fuck ya it is.
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omg that was really a horrible rape... who can stop that fucking kid? 8[
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Flash can't lose when it matters. He just can't, its not within his power to do so...
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was that nevergg taking pictures of flash with his fist up?
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BoxeR and oov had a kid, and named him Lee Young Ho.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
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Best can stop him
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Flash sets a personal best in ELO with 2316.
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I hope you were watching this... Mind. Good luck to you sir! You'll need a lot of it to avoid a complete one sided affair, and perhaps somehow be sent out of MSL without being utterly destroyed. But out you're going :-)
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fuck!!! i just woke up!! i missed the game!!!!
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Seriously... Sea got fucked. How?
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Undeniably the best SC player in the world right now.
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On May 28 2008 20:02 Pepsicolaone wrote: fuck!!! i just woke up!! i missed the game!!!! Not hard to imagine how it went. Its Flash. Take a guess!
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On May 28 2008 19:58 Lolto wrote: Flash wins again, unstoppable Well almost
In TVT I think the key after getting a bo advantage against him is to just macro off 2 base with vult speed/mines to gain map vision and harass expos while increasing dropship count. Flash relies on having an almost equal sized army which he controls better than his opponent while multitasking perfectly to gain an expo advantage. So even if he loses a battle or 2 he will maintain an advantage into late game. Vults force flash to spread his thinned army even more and give great vision which might a top terran to force a strong battle victory, instead of a close victory. Go.go did this, but flash played pretty sloppy that game. Still the vults were the key.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 28 2008 20:02 Alethios wrote: Seriously... Sea got fucked. How?
Flash defended Sea's first attack flawlessly, and his unit advantage directly following that battle caught Sea with his pants down trying to take 9oclock
Sea couldn't fight it off and Flash took his third unmolested, then rolled over Sea with much stronger economy. Absolutely flawless timing by Flash.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
Oh, and also Sea didn't control well at all during the battle at his 9 expansion. Shoulda dropped on those tanks, not inside the expo
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On May 28 2008 20:02 Alethios wrote: Seriously... Sea got fucked. How? After Sea got a nice early bo advantage with his 8 rax just outside his nat into cc(he forced flash to cancel his cc after going 1 fact cc) his first attack of marines +5 tanks and 2 dropships got completely raped. Obviously Sea didnt expectflash to have dropship in time. Flash had 1 dropship with 4 gols which he droped right on 4 tanks on the high ground. Seas one tank on the low ground firing to the high ground simply added to the rape.
From there Flash immediately went for the newly made 3rd expo, sieged near the choke to deny troop access, then pressured the expo itself w ith 2dropships. Fakesteve is right , Seas battle tactics were off and he droped in a poor spot. From there flash simply completely outmicroed him, targetting nearly perfectly when he needed to, spreading his units, and neutralized the base.
After that Flash's nearly flawless macro mechanics allowed him to completely crush Sea in the final battle of the match with an army at LEAST 3 times the size of Seas at the same expo flash destoryed earlier.
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On May 28 2008 20:04 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Flash defended Sea's first attack flawlessly, and his unit advantage directly following that battle caught Sea with his pants down trying to take 9oclock Sea couldn't fight it off and Flash took his third unmolested, then rolled over Sea with much stronger economy. Absolutely flawless timing by Flash. Yeah... I saw it....
I'm just in awe of the absolute precision Flash pulled everything off. The broodwar gods smile upon this'un.
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imho Sea played below par after getting the build advantage
especially his tanks were clumped all the time which made a huge difference
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On May 28 2008 20:09 PoP wrote: imho Sea played below par after getting the build advantage
especially his tanks were clumped all the time which made a huge difference Below par if your opponent is flash, but ya you could see the difference in tactics. Even flash's gols were spread perfectly to avoid splash.
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On May 28 2008 20:10 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:09 PoP wrote: imho Sea played below par after getting the build advantage
especially his tanks were clumped all the time which made a huge difference Below par if your opponent is flash, but ya you could see the difference in tactics. Even flash's gols were spread perfectly to avoid splash.
well i do think he played below his usual level, flash or not
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On May 28 2008 20:12 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:10 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On May 28 2008 20:09 PoP wrote: imho Sea played below par after getting the build advantage
especially his tanks were clumped all the time which made a huge difference Below par if your opponent is flash, but ya you could see the difference in tactics. Even flash's gols were spread perfectly to avoid splash. well i do think he played below his usual level, flash or not So he choked?
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Jangbi purple at 11 Best brown at 5
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game two
Best brown at 5 Janbi purple at 11
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Ok!
Someone tell me the colors lol.
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Flash outclassed Sea in micro in the critical battles above his nat and at 9. It's hard to imagine someone playing better.
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I think Sea played well... Flash is just too good thats all. I hope for a sweet tie-breaker round in this group.
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On May 28 2008 20:04 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Flash defended Sea's first attack flawlessly, and his unit advantage directly following that battle caught Sea with his pants down trying to take 9oclock Sea couldn't fight it off and Flash took his third unmolested, then rolled over Sea with much stronger economy. Absolutely flawless timing by Flash.
The Playback replay showed that following that first attack sea actually had a small (i think around 10) supply advantage over flash, it seemed to me that what did him in was that flash just positioned and micro'd his units alot better in that battle.
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Ok..I thought after you said the colors you would keep going
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Ok..Both playes did a pylon gate pylon gas core gate build. Made about 3 lots each. Best quickly expoed off 2 gates then added robo after getting range. Jangbi got early range as well and a slightly later expo, favoring a slightly earlier robo.
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Obs started for jangbi and for best. Complete mirror builds. Jangbi macroing up to 4 gates, Best doing the same
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Best places a citadel quickly after adding his 4th gate. The obs have reached each others bases. 5th and 6th gate added for best. Jangbi at 4 gates, going reaver, has a shuttle out and reaer making. Citadel placed after. Lets see if jangbi's reaver micro will be strong enough to do solid damage before best's troop count gets too high.
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Best has 2 goons way out to catch probes. A sneaky obs barely escapes from best's main. 5 gate for jangbi. MOVING OUT. 2 dts from best going ar ound the army. Nice best nice.
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dts get atleast 16 probe kills and a pylon
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2 DT's just worked Jangbi hard, about 12 probes I think.
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Jangbi at the bridges with 2 reavers. 2 GREAT SCARABS take out a chunk of zeals. DT COUNTER! 6 probes die before they run for their lives. The dt heads t o the main so they are all xfered to the expo where ANOTHER dt is waiting. It adds about 7 more kills. THe one in the main has freaking 11 kills. 1 dt down. 12 kills for the hero dt as it takes out a pylon. Speed lots and an ob finally take it down. Jangbi does have a 3rd though. And map control. Best is very zeal heavy but with no temp power yet. Best moving around to the top mid while taking his 3rd.
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jangbi has his army out of position, best goes around and charges his nat, storms jangbis goons and reavers
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Hungary11232 Posts
Is today the "I lose stupidly to DTs" day?
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very sneaky play by best.
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Jangbi just got dominated
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HUGE COUNTER AT JANGBIS EXPOSED NAT! ONE STORM READY, only one tep. Jangbi will win the fight but is taking HUGE damage to his probes again. 4 speed zeals are the murderers. Jangbi looking woefully low on probes and wow best has sniped both reavers (at different times) and taken out BOTH obs. Best's reenforcements run up to Jangbi's 3rd base and crush it. Jangbi ggs. Best is a fucking monster. Best protoss on the scene right now, not even counting the win against flash
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Jangbi lost in the same way with Much and was out of MSL...
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On May 28 2008 20:24 Lolto wrote: 2 DT's just worked Jangbi hard, about 12 probes I think. Closer to 20. Basically enough t o completely seal the game.
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On May 28 2008 20:27 Lhyviathan wrote: BeSt takes it.
GG If youre not reporting don't call gg=/
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On May 28 2008 20:28 Vasoline73 wrote: woot. 2/2 so far. gj choosing the best Terran and the Best Protoss those day's -_-
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YYYESSSS!! Best wow WOW NaDa is so going to take Stork out and say byebye JangBi :-)
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On May 28 2008 20:29 FaCE_1 wrote:gj choosing the best Terran and the Best Protoss those day's -_- Ya not exactly difficult bets
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I wonder what Kim Ka Eul say when both of her players will be out of the same group
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On May 28 2008 20:29 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:If youre not reporting don't call gg=/ Well, it's very simple.
I saw BeSt being declared the winner on my Daum stream, so I called GG.
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On May 28 2008 20:31 Lhyviathan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:29 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On May 28 2008 20:27 Lhyviathan wrote: BeSt takes it.
GG If youre not reporting don't call gg=/ Well, it's very simple. I saw BeSt being declared the winner on my Daum stream, so I called GG. Well its very simple. Don't fucking do that. K?
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On May 28 2008 20:31 Lhyviathan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:29 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On May 28 2008 20:27 Lhyviathan wrote: BeSt takes it.
GG If youre not reporting don't call gg=/ Well, it's very simple. I saw BeSt being declared the winner on my Daum stream, so I called GG.
Daum is ahead.. no offence to you. Call GG after reporter does it
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On May 28 2008 20:30 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:29 FaCE_1 wrote:On May 28 2008 20:28 Vasoline73 wrote: woot. 2/2 so far. gj choosing the best Terran and the Best Protoss those day's -_- Ya not exactly difficult bets
lol
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Well im using daum too but to write that much detail means there will be a delay
Wish there was a way to do live commentary in these threads.
Or at least a way I knew about.
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On May 28 2008 20:32 Camlito wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:30 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On May 28 2008 20:29 FaCE_1 wrote:On May 28 2008 20:28 Vasoline73 wrote: woot. 2/2 so far. gj choosing the best Terran and the Best Protoss those day's -_- Ya not exactly difficult bets lol
I feel pretty dumb choosing JangBi now :'( ... thx I missclicked though- -
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On May 28 2008 20:32 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:31 Lhyviathan wrote:On May 28 2008 20:29 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On May 28 2008 20:27 Lhyviathan wrote: BeSt takes it.
GG If youre not reporting don't call gg=/ Well, it's very simple. I saw BeSt being declared the winner on my Daum stream, so I called GG. Daum is ahead.. no offence to you. Call GG after reporter does it Since you asked so nicely, I'll wait next time.
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Naruto is much better at being nice than me.
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Well I'm 1/2, I bet on Sea, knew its 90% auto-loss, still that possible (at best) 10%, would be so damn sweet, I love Sea, I still think he'll make it through IF GGplay kick Rock's ass, which I hope will be the case, and Sea won't bang heads vs flash again until much later :-) Anyway I'd bet on Sea again :-)
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FUCK IM PISSED OFF, i missed the game :'(
GOGO FLASH
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On May 28 2008 20:36 VioleTAK wrote: Well I'm 1/2, I bet on Sea, knew its 90% auto-loss, still that possible (at best) 10%, would be so damn sweet, I love Sea, I still think he'll make it through IF GGplay kick Rock's ass, which I hope will be the case, and Sea won't bang heads vs flash again until much later :-) Anyway I'd bet on Sea again :-) If GGPlay beats Rock, it becomes a 3-way tiebreak for the A2 spot?
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On May 28 2008 20:32 Camlito wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:30 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On May 28 2008 20:29 FaCE_1 wrote:On May 28 2008 20:28 Vasoline73 wrote: woot. 2/2 so far. gj choosing the best Terran and the Best Protoss those day's -_- Ya not exactly difficult bets lol
I thought I was special :'(.
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On May 28 2008 20:37 Lhyviathan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:36 VioleTAK wrote: Well I'm 1/2, I bet on Sea, knew its 90% auto-loss, still that possible (at best) 10%, would be so damn sweet, I love Sea, I still think he'll make it through IF GGplay kick Rock's ass, which I hope will be the case, and Sea won't bang heads vs flash again until much later :-) Anyway I'd bet on Sea again :-) If GGPlay beats Rock, it becomes a 3-way tiebreak for the A2 spot? Yes, same with IF Stork beats NaDa... which he won't of course.
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On May 28 2008 20:34 Lhyviathan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:32 G.s)NarutO wrote:On May 28 2008 20:31 Lhyviathan wrote:On May 28 2008 20:29 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On May 28 2008 20:27 Lhyviathan wrote: BeSt takes it.
GG If youre not reporting don't call gg=/ Well, it's very simple. I saw BeSt being declared the winner on my Daum stream, so I called GG. Daum is ahead.. no offence to you. Call GG after reporter does it Since you asked so nicely, I'll wait next time.
We are all friends here!
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On May 28 2008 20:36 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Naruto is much better at being nice than me.
But I'm more bitchy than you are. ^__^!!
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On May 28 2008 20:38 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:37 Lhyviathan wrote:On May 28 2008 20:36 VioleTAK wrote: Well I'm 1/2, I bet on Sea, knew its 90% auto-loss, still that possible (at best) 10%, would be so damn sweet, I love Sea, I still think he'll make it through IF GGplay kick Rock's ass, which I hope will be the case, and Sea won't bang heads vs flash again until much later :-) Anyway I'd bet on Sea again :-) If GGPlay beats Rock, it becomes a 3-way tiebreak for the A2 spot? Yes, same with IF Stork beats NaDa. Please do not type such evil evil things. Nada must win. I have foreseen it.
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On May 28 2008 20:38 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:37 Lhyviathan wrote:On May 28 2008 20:36 VioleTAK wrote: Well I'm 1/2, I bet on Sea, knew its 90% auto-loss, still that possible (at best) 10%, would be so damn sweet, I love Sea, I still think he'll make it through IF GGplay kick Rock's ass, which I hope will be the case, and Sea won't bang heads vs flash again until much later :-) Anyway I'd bet on Sea again :-) If GGPlay beats Rock, it becomes a 3-way tiebreak for the A2 spot? Yes, same with IF Stork beats NaDa... which he won't of course.
Stop to jinx!!!
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Yes of course, NaDa has already won. Its just a matter of formality. Stork is all about typing that GG now, its his fate, his destiny, more important than his next silver medal... Infact, NaDa should just toss him a couple silver medals after the game (no one remembers NaDa's many silvers anyhow), maybe a small gold one?
edit: omg that came out a bit too mean :-)
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On May 28 2008 20:30 Solmyr wrote:I wonder what Kim Ka Eul say when both of her players will be out of the same group Especially when Stork was the one who picked JangBi in the first place.
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Stork is still strong dont count him out that easy.
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On May 28 2008 20:41 VioleTAK wrote: Yes of course, NaDa has already won. Its just a matter of formality. Stork is all about typing that GG now, its his fate, his destiny, more important than his next silver medal... Infact, NaDa should just toss him a couple silver medals after the game (no one remembers NaDa's many silvers anyhow), maybe a small gold one?
edit: omg that came out a bit too mean :-)
NOOOOO JINX PLEASE
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Woa.. That black OGN uniform looks SEXAY.
LUX FTW JUST FOR PURE SEXINESS!!
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Possibly one of the least anticipated matches of the OSL. Are you pumped or what!?
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On May 28 2008 20:45 wurm wrote: Woa.. That black OGN uniform looks SEXAY.
LUX FTW JUST FOR PURE SEXINESS!! Yeah, that rooster really does it for me, too. ^^
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well,I do really like Lux so I really hope he can beat rumble ...
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Lux should rape this, but its zvz so who really knows. His micro is definitely stronger though.
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On May 28 2008 20:46 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Possibly one of the least anticipated matches of the OSL. Are you pumped or what!?
I am beyond not pumped
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Damn was too busy typing to get a good look at colors. Not to mention its fuckingLIGHT GREEN VS DARK GREEN ZVZ! Sick!
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Go Rumble, just because if he wins there are plenty of rhymes to be had with Jungle and etc.
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Stork is strong if the game works out the way he predicted, and he can play out of his mechanics, which are still very strong. In fact, I think that almost all of his victories this month was due to mechanics, and not due to gamesense/gameplan. He has been serverly lacking in those two areas for quite some time.
If Nada can put some pressure on him early, I expect him to fall apart, like his epic failure against Kal, letting his probes get stormed to death without moving them.
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Light green pools before ovie. Dark green ovies before pool. Ooo, ahhh.
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light green ovies then gas + drone.
Expo from dark green. No gas yet. 4 lings morphing.
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Hungary11232 Posts
Usually there is a SLIGHT chance of getting the colours later, when they go 1st PoV and when they zoom onto players in a critical moment (just lost your entire army? -> Your picture is on the screen for sure!)
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6 lings on the way from light green. Dark green sent out 2 lings to s cout so he only has 4 lings for t he momemnt. Lair started for light green and speed should be started. HOLY SHIT DARKGREEN MOVES OUT WITH HIS LINGS AND LIGHT GREEN RUNS RIGHT AROUND THEM AND INTO THE MAIN MIN LINE!
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Light green picks off 5 or sodrones. Light green kills his extrators. Spire ready. Before the assim was killed light green got 5 lings into the main and killed 2 more drones. First mutas out for light green. spore started just as they arive
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Mutas outrange the first one spore. Really sloppy control...one muta dies to a single spore.
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if only i knew who was who T_T
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rumble is the one getting spanked
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luxury is light green (mutas)
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Ok light green rapes the spore at the expo..the hatch will fall, so will the newly built evo there. Lair is still building for darkgreen.
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Light green is Lux, dark green is Rumble.
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On May 28 2008 20:54 PoP wrote: rumble is the one getting spanked I was about to just assume that Rumbles play this game is very..2v2 level
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The mutas keep comming and easily crush the spores being built in the main. GG. Luxury wins with a very smart build, and rumble's very very stupid decision to move his lings without good scouting or speed.
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A SO GOOD DAY ! best protoss best terran best zerg
ADVANCE !
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lux is my main man!
It's not like rumble would have gotten anywhere in the OSL anyway
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Hungary11232 Posts
Ro8 list is starting to look good in this competition: Flash, Best, July, Luxury. If you add, say, Mind, Bisu, Nada, and Sea to the mix, you will get great matches.
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GJ Lux.. I
No go go Mind... I just hate much so Die Much !!
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On May 28 2008 20:57 trollbone wrote: A SO GOOD DAY ! best protoss best terran best zerg
ADVANCE !
lol @ the best zerg
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On May 28 2008 21:01 amorpheus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:57 trollbone wrote: A SO GOOD DAY ! best protoss best terran best zerg
ADVANCE !
lol @ the best zerg hmm.. yeah.. second best JEadong is still better =]
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To be fair, since I didnt really care too much about this game (reporting it anyways) lux played really awesome at one point. Microing 2 groups of lings (at his choke) and at rumbles main very very well. This is what lead to the "rape" situation.
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Main event time. Hope grandpa toss wins.
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humm
it says much is a terran : )
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On May 28 2008 20:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: 6 lings on the way from light green. Dark green sent out 2 lings to s cout so he only has 4 lings for t he momemnt. Lair started for light green and speed should be started. HOLY SHIT DARKGREEN MOVES OUT WITH HIS LINGS AND LIGHT GREEN RUNS RIGHT AROUND THEM AND INTO THE MAIN MIN LINE! If you are reporting please use names instead colours. Otherwise it's just useless. and no need for caps-.-
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On May 28 2008 21:04 wurm wrote: Main event time. Hope grandpa toss wins. Main even was the first game... this is far away of main even.
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On May 28 2008 21:05 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: 6 lings on the way from light green. Dark green sent out 2 lings to s cout so he only has 4 lings for t he momemnt. Lair started for light green and speed should be started. HOLY SHIT DARKGREEN MOVES OUT WITH HIS LINGS AND LIGHT GREEN RUNS RIGHT AROUND THEM AND INTO THE MAIN MIN LINE! If you are reporting please use names instead colours. Otherwise it's just useless. and no need for caps-.-
He stated earlier that he was having difficulty telling who was who, hence the use of colors to denote players. And why not, re: caps? No use going all deadpan during an amazing situation. Caps enhances the LR for people with dead streams.
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On May 28 2008 21:07 FaCE_1 wrote:Main even was the first game... this is far away of main even. top2 terran vs top5protoss. not a mirror. Much more entertaining ;-)
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there will be cheese this game. I can fee it in my loins.
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On May 28 2008 21:07 FaCE_1 wrote:Main even was the first game... this is far away of main even.
Nah, everybody pretty much expected Flash to roll Sea. I wasn't able to watch it so I couldn't really tell if it was a good game or not. This, though, should be a great game.
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On May 28 2008 21:05 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: 6 lings on the way from light green. Dark green sent out 2 lings to s cout so he only has 4 lings for t he momemnt. Lair started for light green and speed should be started. HOLY SHIT DARKGREEN MOVES OUT WITH HIS LINGS AND LIGHT GREEN RUNS RIGHT AROUND THEM AND INTO THE MAIN MIN LINE! If you are reporting please use names instead colours. Otherwise it's just useless. and no need for caps-.- Read the thread. I missed who was who because I was typing and the colors are very very simular on my shitty laptop monitor. And its not useless because when the colors are known it become usefull again.
AND REALLY I SHOULDN'T USE CAPS!? Why don't you show us all how a really good live report looks next game. PLEASE Be my guest.
PS. Caps are used to highlight critical parts of the match, or especially well played or exciting plays.
Seriously though. You should live report much vs mind.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 28 2008 21:05 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 20:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: 6 lings on the way from light green. Dark green sent out 2 lings to s cout so he only has 4 lings for t he momemnt. Lair started for light green and speed should be started. HOLY SHIT DARKGREEN MOVES OUT WITH HIS LINGS AND LIGHT GREEN RUNS RIGHT AROUND THEM AND INTO THE MAIN MIN LINE! If you are reporting please use names instead colours. Otherwise it's just useless. and no need for caps-.- ever seen day9's EPIC live reports?
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On May 28 2008 21:10 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 21:05 Piste wrote:On May 28 2008 20:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: 6 lings on the way from light green. Dark green sent out 2 lings to s cout so he only has 4 lings for t he momemnt. Lair started for light green and speed should be started. HOLY SHIT DARKGREEN MOVES OUT WITH HIS LINGS AND LIGHT GREEN RUNS RIGHT AROUND THEM AND INTO THE MAIN MIN LINE! If you are reporting please use names instead colours. Otherwise it's just useless. and no need for caps-.- Read the thread. I missed who was who because I was typing and the colors are very very simular on my shitty laptop monitor. And its not useless because when the colors are known it become usefull again. AND REALLY I SHOULDN'T USE CAPS!? Why don't you show us all how a really good live report looks next game. PLEASE Be my guest. PS. Caps are used to highlight critical parts of the match, or especially well played or exciting plays. Seriously though. You should live report much vs mind.
hehe.. I agree. First time I saw a complaint of a LR. It's not as easy as you think. I tried.. and failed.
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This match is taking forever to start. I want to go to fucking bed already -_-. Anyone know why they are talking so much?
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Ok piste ready !?
5 4 3 2 1
Take it away PISTE!!!
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Game starting
Mind red 7 Much purple at 4
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On May 28 2008 21:16 Vasoline73 wrote: This match is taking forever to start. I want to go to fucking bed already -_-. Anyone know why they are talking so much? It depends on when the players are ready. Sense this match is win or go home both players are probably nervous and thus are taking longer than usual.
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On May 28 2008 21:15 wurm wrote:hehe.. I agree. First time I saw a complaint of a LR. It's not as easy as you think. I tried.. and failed. Its more for being arrogant I suppose not connected with the LR. I dont care either way. Go Much!!!
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much going gate/gas, mind rax/gas
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LOL Mind misclicked his scvs.
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1 gate core, citadel/robo so DT drop by much 1fac + addon by mind
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I never said I am better live reporter. Even tho I wouldn't do better job than you, it's still doesn't take away the fact that you suck, theforeverwar.
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Close spawns TvP: Good or bad thing for Much?
Hope he goes Reavers. GO MUCH!!
EDIT: Woops, guess he went DT's.
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On May 28 2008 21:18 amorpheus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 21:15 wurm wrote:hehe.. I agree. First time I saw a complaint of a LR. It's not as easy as you think. I tried.. and failed. Its more for being arrogant I suppose not connected with the LR. I dont care either way. Go Much!!! ?
It was a direct complaint about my LR. How is it not connected with the LR?
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On May 28 2008 21:21 Piste wrote: I never said I am better live reporter. Even tho I wouldn't do better job than you, it's still doesn't take away the fact that you suck, theforeverwar. Lol.
Some people actually think I'm pretty good when I try. Hard to believe eh?
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On May 28 2008 21:21 wurm wrote: Close spawns TvP: Good or bad thing for Much?
Hope he goes Reavers. GO MUCH!!
Bad for either, I think, depending on their dropship/shuttle mechanics. You're right to hope for Reavers XD
Ninja edit: DTs work too, although I would think that Mind'll get early detection.
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Wow... DT Drop + No Comsats + Turrets continually getting denied = Mind screwed?
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DT incoming mind has enginering bay and builds a turret, but the DT snipes it just as it is finished. Shuttle dies to marine fire and two DT are working on the one fac, forcing mind to lift it off and build another add-on closer to turret
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Hungary11232 Posts
I am afraid Mind will get horribly mutilated by cloaked ninjas, as everyone loses to DTs today. A-n-t-i-c-l-i-m-a-t-i-c. It would be.
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Ahhh, Mind gets a Turret up. Manages to hold Much's DT foray at bay.
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because you sometimes can be annoying , like when you go mad if people call gg before you do. Though personally I love your live reports , so go on and good job
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My stream is way behind. -_-
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On May 28 2008 21:24 amoxicilline wrote: because you sometimes can be annoying , like when you go mad if people call gg before you do. Though personally I love your live reports , so go on and good job Thats an old rule from long ago when live reports were actually important because not many people had streams. It would suck in tense matches when someone would say GG before the report had reported what happened.
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oh god much!
mind creeps into his base with 2 vults, lays mines and harasses probes,
much runs probes away but triggers a mine with a goon which splashkills like 20 probes : (
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Mind fends of the DT with turrets and has built a cc at nat. The DT are still in minds base but cant do anything yet. Much is building hidden expo at 1 but mind has wallhack and sends one vult who arrives just before the pylon wall was complete. Mind adding more facs. Much saves the hidden expo and builds another wall with forge and cannons. Much has 6 gates and pumping goons. Minds sends 3 vults and does some harass and kills many probes in main and nat. Mind iis building another base at closest expo with gas (9ish)
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So now we don't have any reports but flame who suck and who is not... Maybe I'll watch this on youtube later....
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No siege mode... soooo bad=/
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Much has upwards of 10 Dragoons in Mind's natural. Mind is forced to lift off, and pull SCVs to defend his ramp.
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much pushing hard into Mind's nat with goons, takes out CC but cant get any further
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
will mind not make the ro8?
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Much catches minds forces off guard and kills many tanks and vults with pure goons. Much forces himself all the way to minds nat and kills the nat cc, and forces the 3rd to lift off. He forces mind to fight with scvs and whatever the facs are pumping
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mind rebuilding nat but supplies are 66 to 121, much has a pretty large army ready to move in
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Mind barely saves his 9 o'clock CC from burning down, but it looks grim for him, overall.
Supply counts: Mind - 64 Much - 125
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Mind gets a few vultures into Much's base and Much brings his army back to deal with it, giving mind some good time to recover, but he is very behind at the moment
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SIEGE MOD-EHH SIEGE MOD-EHH!
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Mind rebuild the nat cc and the 3rd at the same time as he does harass with vults. he has tanks to fend off any attack at the moment. Much rushes all his forces back to kill the vults who kills a lot of probes. Much taking the 1oclock nat
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Much loses a Shuttle to Turrets, Mind floats his CC back out in order to establish his 3rd base.
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Much adds a Stargate, he has a few HTs now, to augment his Zeal/Goon mix.
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much takes the 1 natural, so it is 4 bases to 2, then builds a stargate, his army is at the edge of minds natural
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Nice by mind. He predicted the crushing attack at his 2nd expo and lifts and runs scvs a good 10 seconds before the attack. Great game sense. He's still fucked though.
If Mind comes back from this I will give much respect.
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On May 28 2008 21:31 teamsolid wrote: SIEGE MOD-EHH SIEGE MOD-EHH!
Just the words I was waiting to hear =D
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4 of Mind's Vultures raid Much's main, but they don't appear to inflict any serious damage to Much's economy. Much now well poised to snipe Mind's 3rd CC.
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Much takes a 5th base, supplies are now 160/ 90
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Much moves in to mind's nat! Tanks do a lot of damage but much just has overwhelming numbers, some good storms on grouped tanks take them out, Mind lifts has nat CC, and back to 1 base.
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Some well placed storms weaken the Tanks defending Mind's main. Armies are essentially traded. It's now 12 supply vs 107.
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Much adds a stargate at nat. Much goes for the killing blow at minds nat with goons lots and temps. Mind has tanks on the kliff doing damage but much has gosu storms and takes care of them. Mind in the meantime drops some tanks in muches base. Mind ggs
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Mind tries to drop much's natural with a couple of tanks, but he has lost way too much at his own base.
Mind GG's
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Mind is OUT of OSL and MSL!!!! (ok MSL still in theory, until he GGs to Flash a couple times) GJ uncle toss.
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GG!
Much advances to the RO8. Mind goes home empty handed.
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On May 28 2008 21:27 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 21:24 amoxicilline wrote: because you sometimes can be annoying , like when you go mad if people call gg before you do. Though personally I love your live reports , so go on and good job Thats an old rule from long ago when live reports were actually important because not many people had streams. It would suck in tense matches when someone would say GG before the report had reported what happened.
I totally agree that's how you said it, you just don't have to yell at people for little facts while you can simply just say it. Have a bit of respect for other posters
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
and we can say goodbye to mind from EVER 08 OSL
and much, once again, makes the ro8 where he is invariably disappoint us all
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Wow, I did NOT see that coming.
+ Show Spoiler +Has Grandpa started taking metamucil all of a sudden? He seems to be kicking ass: Bisu, then Mind...More power to him.
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On May 28 2008 21:35 Plexa wrote: and we can say goodbye to mind from EVER 08 OSL
and much, once again, makes the ro8 where he is invariably disappoint us all
Who does Much have in the ro8?
EDIT: 4/4 oh yeah.
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Only one upset today, gj Much. cya Mind, gl vs Flash in MSL :-)
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Russian Federation386 Posts
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On May 28 2008 21:38 VioleTAK wrote: too many people trusted jangbi
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Germany2762 Posts
nice, grandpatoss fighting!
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yeah i'm really happy Mind lost....hope for BackHo now
btw Jangbi vs Best..is it worth watching ?
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On May 28 2008 21:55 Spyder wrote: yeah i'm really happy Mind lost....hope for BackHo now
btw Jangbi vs Best..is it worth watching ?
Only for lulz and watching two DT's completely throw Jangbi off guard and cause him to give up his attack and run back to defend.
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On May 28 2008 21:33 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Tx for the LR, always nice to come back to after an exam and with no VODs online yet. ^^;
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YAY! is it just me or is it clearly gonna be flash's name on that trophy, jd and mind are out, from here on in its series now, i gotta give this osl to flash
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Hungary11232 Posts
On May 28 2008 22:24 Scaramanga wrote: YAY! is it just me or is it clearly gonna be flash's name on that trophy, jd and mind are out, from here on in its series now, i gotta give this osl to flash Don't be rash. Best is in AMAZING form right now - 11 wins in 11 games recently. He beat Flash in PL and they can meet no earlier than Semifinals, making the encounter BO5. If I was to name a single serious challenger for Flash at the moment, I would name him.
We have some other question marks: How well would the reinvigorated Julyzerg fare against Flash? How would Jangbi do, if he makes it through, with his killer PvT? If Bisu performs against Flash as he did against Mind, would he have a chance?
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On May 28 2008 22:34 Aesop wrote: s: How well would the reinvigorated Julyzerg fare against Flash? Get raped
How would Jangbi do, if he makes it through, with his killer PvT? Get raped
If Bisu performs against Flash as he did against Mind, would he have a chance?
Get raped
That pretty much sums up how the OSL is going to go.
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WOW, I love BeSt! NaDa now only has to beat Stork to advance.:DDDDDDD
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Best, Bisu and Jangbi are all dangers to Flash. As long as they all shape up and ship out, Flash won't have an easy time of it. Hooray for Best also, great to see him owning it up and I hope Bisu joins him as an SKT advancer on Friday.
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On May 28 2008 23:16 kemoryan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 22:34 Aesop wrote: s: How well would the reinvigorated Julyzerg fare against Flash? Get raped Get raped Show nested quote + If Bisu performs against Flash as he did against Mind, would he have a chance?
Get raped That pretty much sums up how the OSL is going to go. I really like this kid when flash fuckes up whoever he meets in this osl untill he wins i will quote/bump and laugh
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Woo nice Much, even being a fan I didn't expect him to win. Nice little suprise before class =)
PS: Much will make it to the finals against flash and cheese 3/3
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noooooooo rumble
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On May 28 2008 23:43 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2008 23:16 kemoryan wrote:On May 28 2008 22:34 Aesop wrote: s: How well would the reinvigorated Julyzerg fare against Flash? Get raped How would Jangbi do, if he makes it through, with his killer PvT? Get raped If Bisu performs against Flash as he did against Mind, would he have a chance?
Get raped That pretty much sums up how the OSL is going to go. I really like this kid when flash fuckes up whoever he meets in this osl untill he wins i will quote/bump and laugh
^^
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Bisu is a danger for everyone now, also there is no jaedong in the osl and the other zergs are weak (esp. in zvp)
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I hate to say it but Bisu will get cheesed by the newbie and all will be over.
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omg....flash did it soooo well he'll be new hero of the protoss hehe Love that :D
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On May 29 2008 01:39 proA.June91 wrote: omg....flash did it soooo well he'll be new hero of the protoss hehe Love that :D
did you mean Best?
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Well... i guess this just aint Mind's season....
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Excellent OP, wish they were all like that :O so helpful and coo'.
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On May 29 2008 02:10 Tinithor wrote: Well... i guess this just aint Mind's season....
well you know mind was never really something big...he was just consistent and that's why he wins and loses...
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I'd say winning an MSL makes you something big, but now with him out of the Classic and the OSL and going up against Flash in the MSL... well i guess he'll win alot for us in Proleague.
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Tough for break for Mind and now he has to face Flash in MSL. Hoping Bisu beats Backho, but this means he will get D2 meaning Flash, Best, or July. Oh well I think he can beat any of them if he he plays his best. Thats a big if, but Much winning will make things harder for Bisu if he takes D2.
P.S. He is not going to die to that noobs cheese. Backho will get rolled.
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I think Bisu's only chance of winnin in the Ro8 is if he goes up against July. BeSt and Flash will certainly roll him.
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