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Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Bacchus OSL: Round of 16
Week 3.2 - 1 February 2008 [18:30]
sAviOr < Demon's Forest > Sea
Flash < Blue Storm > Stork
XellOs < Troy > July
YellOw[ArnC] < Katrina > Much
Results:
+ Show Spoiler +Sea > Savior (savior wtf T_T)
Stork > Flash
Xellos > July
Much > Yarnc
Comment
This is it gentlemen, in most cases these games determine whether there will be a round of tiebreakers or if there will be a straight advance. The only player here with nothing to gain is Savior, everyone else needs to win their game today to stay alive. Thus, i would expect a couple cheese builds tonight. July is likely to do another stupid all in and Flash could very well do something as well. Despite the 'lesser' quality of gamers this time round, these games could very well be the best of the whole group stage so don't miss it.
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United States10774 Posts
savior ill root for you even if you cant make it.
Want:
savior
flash
xellos
much
Most likely:
sea
stork
july
much
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If sea chokes again it will be pathetic beyond words.
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Savior has the unluckiest group, I'll have lost all my enthusiasm for OSL after tonight
Go GOM Invitational!
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It's going to be
Sea
Stork
Xellos
Much
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oh ma jae yoon, give the world one more spark of brilliance before you burn out
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Sea
Stork
Xellos
Much
Easy game.
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Xellos FIGHTING!!!
for Bisu!!!!!
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
game 1: a player playing in a game he has no incentive to win on a map they have no incentive to practice for ever again
game 2: battle of the babyfaced teenagers
game 3: battle of the washed-ups
game 4: two of the crappiest names in pro-gaming
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im sorry i voted against savior.. sigh. go xellos i want bisu.
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FUCK SLUMPS.
MA JAE YOON
PLEASE.
FOR ALL OF YOUR FANS' SAKE, AS WELL AS YOUR OWN.
DON'T FAIL THIS TIME.
FOR THE SWARM. FOR THE MAESTRO PRIDE.
MA JAE YOON FIGHTING!
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
Savior will smash this chump!
Go-go-go, Flash, make it!!!
I love you Xellos, but July will kick your ass...
Hey, Old Man, make this OSL!
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sAviOr going 0-2 in MSL and 0-3 in OSL would be too sad for words. I think he needs to win this damn game just to get that stupid win, as meanningless as it may be.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 01 2008 15:52 VioleTAK wrote:
sAviOr going 0-2 in MSL and 0-3 in OSL would be too sad for words. I think he needs to win this damn game just to get that stupid win, as meanningless as it may be.
i want savior to play well again too, but it cant happen now
it just cant
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XELLOS COME ON, YOU MUST WIN SO BISU HAS A CHANCE!!!!
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Savior still plays well he just mixes in some very dumb stuff into his games. Maybe hes sandbaggin? 
Like engaging the terrans first push out at the terrans choke or mid map instead of at the last second. Trying a build against Bisu that he used before on a different toss using Bisus build.
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9070 Posts
c'mon Xellos, Bisu picked you for a reason !
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United States1654 Posts
On February 01 2008 15:20 GrandInquisitor wrote:
game 1: a player playing in a game he has no incentive to win on a map they have no incentive to practice for ever again
So true.
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How can XelloS lose 1v1s when he crushes 1v2's?
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On February 01 2008 15:20 GrandInquisitor wrote:
game 4: two of the crappiest names in pro-gaming
so untrue.
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Braavos36375 Posts
On February 01 2008 15:20 GrandInquisitor wrote:
game 1: a player playing in a game he has no incentive to win on a map they have no incentive to practice for ever again
actually, i strongly believe this game will mean much more to savior than you think
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Melbourne5338 Posts
I think Savior has incentive to win any game at the moment, just to regain his pride.
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On February 01 2008 17:17 pachi wrote:
I think Savior has incentive to win any game at the moment, just to regain his pride.
And keep his fans, and please his coach, and keep his status amongst his peers. Not to mention that like most people, I'm sure he just plain wants to win as much as possible.
Motivation is a complex thing, but I think it's very rare for any progamer to go into a match not feeling like trying their best. If they're having confidence problems, or suffering from a lack of drive, they may end up making poor choices, or just playing below their usual (or potential) standard, but that's not the same thing as not even trying.
Edit: However much we may like to criticize the play of the weaker players, they're still very strong StarCraft gamers by any objective standard, and perfectly capable of capitalizing upon lapses. When a win rate over 60% is a big deal, you've got a pretty close competition.
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Sea Stork Xellos Much gogo
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to ask again coz nobody answered the last time, in case of playoffs what map will be played? Forsest or Fantasy?
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On February 01 2008 17:51 M2 wrote:
to ask again coz nobody answered the last time, in case of playoffs what map will be played? Forsest or Fantasy?
Presumably Demon's Forest. Tiebreaker games are still part of the round of 16.
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Savior should throw this game and let sea go on. This will make jaedong available for elimination.
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Go Savior!!! It'd be badass if he completely man-handled Sea for no reason on this map :D
MA JAE YOON!!! <3
edit: every match-up looks potentially good tonight, hope staying up's worth it 
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Hungary11291 Posts
Savior should NEVER throw this game. Eliminating Jaedong is not worth giving up his pride. In terms of interesting games, it would be great though to have JD / Best / Sea rematch.
I want Stork to beat Flash, so we can see yet another tiebreaker. Flash / Rock rematch should be funny.
Xellos doesn't have a bad shot at beating July. He looked bad against Luxury, but Lux is playing really well these days. July against Upmagic on the other hand ...
Much should be able to beat Yarnc, so that we have him and Frozean advancing.
edit: If my tendency to misbet OSL continues, we will see Savior / Flash / July / Yarnc winning. So watch out for that.
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live report? pls
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starting.....blah blah blah, but soon the games I hope)
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On February 01 2008 17:17 pachi wrote:
I think Savior has incentive to win any game at the moment, just to regain his pride.
On the other side Jaedong wasted him losing last game, so Savior has nothing to play for. He can be angry at Jaedong and lose on purpose just to force 3-way tie for Jaedong. I know I am going too far, but I am scared for my LB point. Anyway gogo Savior!
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Savior walks to his booth in style, sits down.
Girl beside him orgasms
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Savior's chances are really slim. The map is so bad for Zerg as we saw YarnC play like utter crap.
Really I'm watching this game not in hopes of seeing savior back, but in hopes of seeing savior NOT play like crap.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
sea looks really nervous 
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omg I soo want Savior to win this. plz plz.
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I dunno how much practice Sea's put into this game!
Time will tell!
GOGO
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
THE GREAT ESCAPE
I LOVE IT
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No chance for Sea
Savior already won an OSL playing more dominant Terrans on disadvantageous maps
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
CUZ WE ARE FINALLY FREE
TOOONIIIIIGGGGGHHHHTTTTTT~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Braavos36375 Posts
i actually hate this opening so much. progamers look the least badass doing any sort of physical activity, esp. like bisu randomly running across the screen or flash doing like backflips for no reason, wtf
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Savior green 11
Sea yellow 3
Savior clones mineral patches perfectly
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Savior scouting the right way, looks like hes going 9 pool, or was that 8 pool?
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funky build from sAvior!!
cancelling gas for an extra worker! hmmmmm!
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Savior scouts correctly, goes 9 pool with extractor trick
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On February 01 2008 18:40 Hot_Bid wrote:
i actually hate this opening so much. progamers look the least badass doing any sort of physical activity, esp. like bisu randomly running across the screen or flash doing like backflips for no reason, wtf
yea I don't like the video either.
I love the song though. But to be honest it's a bad choice for an OSL/MSL opening theme.
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guys where do you watch life stream ?
cause I can't find it anywhere at my daumtv
(I can't distinguish Korean symbols)
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
I think they did a good job using RJA music last season.
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I'm horribly torn over Sea/Savior. Both of them need their mojo back after diasters previously. I am however, unreservedly barracking for Xellos.
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Savior scouts Sea making 2 rax
Savior looks SAD? WTF
Savior sends lings out but all die in atk on Sea's ramp
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Saviors 5 lings kill 2 scvs, but nothing else before dieing.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
SEA MOVING OUT WITH 4 RINES
SAVIOR HAS 1 LING, RAMP HATCH STILL MORPHING
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Sea counters with 6 rines
LOOKS BAD FOR SAVIOR
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Hungary11291 Posts
On February 01 2008 18:42 cSf.fLan.BraZa wrote:
guys where do you watch life stream ?
cause I can't find it anywhere at my daumtv
(I can't distinguish Korean symbols)
Look onto the TV programme to the right. There should be some titles running as "live", one of those will be something with 18:30 - 16강 6회 This is the one you will want to click on, after that just on the red play button.
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lol
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Savior goes 0-3 omg no, no no
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Hungary11291 Posts
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
LLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT
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That was the worst Savior performance I've ever seen.
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Wow, sea looking like that was the easiest thing ever.
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what a shitty game sAvior ;(
wtf is wrong with you ;(
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Hungary11291 Posts
Hehe, demon's forest enforcing low econ one base style. I.e. marine rush from 2 raxx is enough. Rejoice though, we see three more games! Sea looks soooooooooo relieved now.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
I think Savior's LITERALLY hit rock bottom
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On February 01 2008 18:39 Elsi wrote:
I dunno how much practice Sea's put into this game!
Time will tell!
GOGO
foot in mouth??
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Braavos36375 Posts
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So much for savior putting some fight into the game
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Savior rubbing his forehead, about to cry.. can't believe what just happened
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Valhalla18444 Posts
hahahahaha
sea doesn't pose or smile or anything, he just glares into the camera as they take photos
then he goes 'what?' as someone speaks to him, then he sighs and rolls his eyes
hahahahah
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
I had little hope to begin with for savior. His opponent is strong, his form is messy, and the map is imba, plus he has nothing to fight for.
But FUCK I didn't expect THAT to happen.
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United States13896 Posts
and savior has left the building ...
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wow..... i think the savior fanboy part of me just died... just go hide in a corner ma jae yoon and please dont come back... id like to remember you as the maestro and not as a complete whack player :/
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Savior securing that the map will never be played again by making it look even more imba.
So, basically he was losing on purpose.
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Sea should cut his nails, last week.
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Sea still looks dazed and tired as he does the card-signing thing.
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Germany2762 Posts
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Savior appears to have absolutely no competitive spirit at all anymore.
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LOL AT SAVIOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEA FIGHTING TIE BREAK !!!!!
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Hungary11291 Posts
Ah well, onto the more serious matters. And is there already word on when the tiebreakers will be held?
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Valhalla18444 Posts
that game was like a personal message from Sea to me
i was worried that Sea could be eliminated from both leagues. Sea tells me not to worry and quickly wins so i can enjoy the rest of the games stress-free
kick some tail in the tiebreakers, little man
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this game will result in the first progamer suicide
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On February 01 2008 14:58 ray1234 wrote:
oh ma jae yoon, give the world one more spark of brilliance before you burn out
he's burned out
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On February 01 2008 18:48 Aesop wrote:
Ah well, onto the more serious matters. And is there already word on when the tiebreakers will be held?
savior is 0-3, no fucking way he tie with anyone.
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Hungary11291 Posts
On February 01 2008 18:50 anch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 18:48 Aesop wrote:
Ah well, onto the more serious matters. And is there already word on when the tiebreakers will be held? savior is 0-3, no fucking way he tie with anyone.
Tiebreakers between Sea, Jaedong and Best, sheesh.
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United States13896 Posts
On February 01 2008 18:50 anch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 18:48 Aesop wrote:
Ah well, onto the more serious matters. And is there already word on when the tiebreakers will be held? savior is 0-3, no fucking way he tie with anyone.
no, that pulls Sea, Jaedong, and BeSt into a 3 way tie.
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whats this song called? The one right after the commercials, when they show apm and stuff from last game
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IPX should stop crying like a woman after every game, but get his shit together and star playing some starcraft lol.
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Wow savior.. the only good thing was that I only saw glimpses of it..
stupid Daum player keeps buffering every 5 seconds.. and the counter goes like 4, 6, 8....98,100% each time..
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wow replay of this great game, rofl
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savior needs a break, he s overburned
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Savior's initial rush wasn't a bad idea, but he forced it way too much. He should have waited out instead, and hoped for Sea to jump the gun with his timing and ambush marines while he took his expo and sunken'd his ramp.
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i really miss you sAviOr...
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stork looks ready to throw a game
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On February 01 2008 18:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
that game was like a personal message from Sea to me
i was worried that Sea could be eliminated from both leagues. Sea tells me not to worry and quickly wins so i can enjoy the rest of the games stress-free
kick some tail in the tiebreakers, little man
So Steve, what personal messages does Sea give you when he's on a crushing streak? Is there hidden commands to knife aggressive lair-based zerg players? :p
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Think that he just lacked motivation this game and this is probably one of the most important things for a pro together with confidence and concentration!
sAviOr fan 4EVER!
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stork, lose!! god damn it. Flash go break his streak.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Lets go for 4 groups 4 tiebreakers. Go Stork!!
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51450 Posts
i hope ljd and ybs make it through to the ro8
screw djw
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 01 2008 18:55 HaXxorIzed wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 18:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
that game was like a personal message from Sea to me
i was worried that Sea could be eliminated from both leagues. Sea tells me not to worry and quickly wins so i can enjoy the rest of the games stress-free
kick some tail in the tiebreakers, little man So Steve, what personal messages does Sea give you when he's on a crushing streak? Is there hidden commands to knife aggressive lair-based zerg players? :p
when he's on winning streaks he whispers to me when i'm alone
'you're not wrong.. you're not wrong... everyone else thinks you're crazy but THEY'RE the ones that are crazy...'
wait thats me whispering to myself
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hahaha wtf stork has a flash cheerful on his desk
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Lots of hope still out there, it seems. Less after tonight, though.
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Sea not looking great lately he played terrible against Light last night, and needed this walkover in order to force a tiebreak. Savior is in total career freefall. Out of both leagues in groups, 0-5?
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googogo flash !!!! KTF HOPE
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Hungary11291 Posts
Stork top right, orange, Flash bottom left, green. Flash with gas, fearing a steal I guess, Stork harassing with his probe, damaging some scvs. No real surprises yet.
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51450 Posts
Flash and Stork smiling.
Not good.
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oh fuck you savior NOW you win? fuck fuck fuck. i never voted against you and this was my first. HATE YOU.
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Come on Flash! Prove my brain wrong!
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where is the best place to watch OSL live?
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On February 01 2008 19:02 Raithed wrote:
oh fuck you savior NOW you win? fuck fuck fuck. i never voted against you and this was my first. HATE YOU. hi
probes are gay
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On February 01 2008 19:02 Raithed wrote:
oh fuck you savior NOW you win? fuck fuck fuck. i never voted against you and this was my first. HATE YOU.
Sea won comfortably in a very short game. Did you read the thread at all?
Edit: Turns out Plexa put the wrong result in the OP results box.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Flash also expanded once his factory was done, he might be able to vulture raid Stork soon. Stork's expansion is up though.
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This build by stork is just asking flash to do some all-in scv rush.
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Ok nvm, Flash responds to Storks expo before gas with his own 1 factory CC.
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lol 6th sense dragoon dodges mines
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Hungary11291 Posts
Stork has good timing, has his goons out when the vultures arrive and now a robotics going up. Flash going for an armory.
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i still cant believe savior couldnt defend 4 marines... i dont think im exaggerating when i say that I could have hold that. He wasted his 6 lings against the marines without pulling drones the first time, after that it was over. It is SO easy to defend that. When sea had his 4-5 rines on saviors ramp savior should have picked 4-6 drones and DRONE DRILL them through his ramp simultaneously attacking with his 6 lings. Im sure that would have been easily defended that way. But no, he wasted his lings against 5 rines on his own ramp w/o pulling a single drone. As I said, im sure even I could have defended that, as this was VERY easy to hold (marines w/o scvs and u have a ramp... come on...).
Worse reaction than B level Zs on iccup t.t
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SUpport bay down for stork, Flash mining up his base
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Stork getting reavers, Flash laying mines and getting armory.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Robotics going up for Stork, as expected. So we might see some reaver madness again. No turrets yet for flash, so the shuttles will have free reign. Academy coming for Flash as well.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On February 01 2008 18:56 GTR-2-Go wrote:
i hope ljd and ybs make it through to the ro8
screw djw Here's hoping ljd < ybs
ljd < djw
ybs > djw
OSL CURSE CONTINUES~
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Sly CC for flash at the top of his main to float to min only or top left
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ouch flash scored on those probes
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Flash sneaks in a few vultures and takes out a ton of probes at Stork's nat!
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Hungary11291 Posts
Flash getting a CC in the north of his base, to float it to min only, Stork ready with his reaver drop. Havent seen any tanks for Flash yet, he has a machine shop spinning, so siege is probably just rolling.
ARgh, stream skips, shows a reaver dieing after not having achieved too much. Apparently the early Goliaths got the shuttle.Vulture raid kills many probes and forces them away from the expansion, as stork's goons have moved out.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Four tanks and many scvs stand guard against Storks goon force outside flash's natural. Flash is getting a scifac, probably for EMP.
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Flash moving out to take min only. Stork's is already up
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
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Stork loses almost all of his goons to the pushing tanks and vultures as Flash takes his mineral only. Things looking bad for Stork.
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Another shuttle dies to gols, not sure what was in it
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Stork's play is absolutely terrible
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Hungary11291 Posts
Flash pushing out against Stork's goon only force, with some tanks / goliaths / vultures. Flash is equalling economy as he sets up his min only. He shot down one shuttle near his natural. Looking good for KTF's hope.
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I really enjoy seeing Sci Vessels used TvP. Here's hoping...
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Valhalla18444 Posts
lol stork is playing so bad
flash's build is cool too
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Second armory making, SciFac is already up, CC making at top left expo
Stork is taking bottom right
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It's a good thing Stork expanded to the min only he needs 3 nexus to replace all those lost probes.
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Flash is already +1 weapons, looks like he's getting +2 instead of vessels. Both players take the corner expos.
Stork does a Dt and reaver drop in Flash's natural, kills a good amount of scvs, but loses the shuttle.
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3rd shuttle dies with 1dt and a reaver on board
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I love Flash's build.
He's going to rip Stork apart.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
meh, this game means nothing to stork but everything to flash
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Hungary11291 Posts
Stork's drops finally find a target at Flash's natural. Flash's metal is upgraded 2-1 and both have about equal supply at 150. Stork preparing carrier switch / or rather arbiters, as he adds 2 more gates.
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wow nice break by stork, there goes flash's whole army
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Somehow despite losing ALL his templar without a single storm, Stork breaks Flash's army anyway. wtf
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wow stork just annihilated Flash's army in the middle
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Hungary11291 Posts
Stork with a great job at breaking Flash's push, storming into the Min only now. Looking better for the Bird now. IN fact he hit top left, where Flash has yet another expansion and will be able to break through there. SCVs run away just before the storm hits them.
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Flash's vultures take out 4 HTs before using any storms!!! But Stork just charges in and flanks Flashs tanks with a ton of zealots! Stork wins a big battle!
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damn, one sloppy push and this game went straight down the shitter for flash.
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C`mon Birdeyyyyyyyyy !!!!!
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12 expo up for flash but it probably wont last long
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wow what a complete turn over hahah, i thought it was totally flash's game <_> good shit
arbiters up, sexy time
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Hungary11291 Posts
Stork getting Arbiters now, his ground forces are only 0-0-1 though compared to Flash's heavy grades. He found the 12 expansion, Flash is hurrying for defending it.
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That was some terrible micro by flash, he killed on the templars but then ran his vults way too far back to protect tanks from zeals getting in T.T
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Valhalla18444 Posts
lol this is actually turning into a decent game
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:/ Stork I hate you. And you're so ugly.
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OMFG a lot of scvs going to 12 raped by mine splash
Goon arb in 12 now
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Stork must upgrade his army or Flash's machines will crush him at a particular moment.
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tones of scv just died to a mine!! haha
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damn flash is fighting hard.
What a game from both players
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Hungary11291 Posts
Flash actually managed to save 12, but with 6 claimed Stork is still one base ahead. Finally his ground upgrades kick in with 1-0-2.
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tick tock can't wait for the inevitable recall into main
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Stork is an absolute beast PvT. Honestly why would you ever vote against him?
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Flash please take your left corner again :/
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Hungary11291 Posts
Stork getting ready to recall in Flash's main. CHooses to attack the middle instead. Heavy initial losses for Stork, but it looks like he can pull through.
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this is over soon for flash.
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That was well and truly a moment of opposites when Stork tore apart the push. Flash has to be feeling one hell of a downer.
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Flash playing really strong, but i don't think he is ready for a fatty recall.
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aw at this rate there won't even be a recall :/
go flash! pretend you still have a chance!! xD
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
you can just tell by the way stork was playing that he didn't care
haha
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Hungary11291 Posts
Stork broke through to 12 and is attacking there with goons. Has Flash finally reclaimed the 11 base? Stork now ahead by a hefty amount of supply.
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fuck seem slike flash is going out also.
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Stork has an insurmountable unit advantage now.
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time to type out..
great game by both players!
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Hungary11291 Posts
Flash has given himself up, scan comes very late, 12 expo is about to die. Putting some mines, but that won't save him.
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Flash is visibly grimacing, making his upper-lip stand out even more.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
STTTOOOORK IS A FUCKING MONSTER
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Hungary11291 Posts
As Stork stasises and breaks the last push, Flash ggs out. TIEBREAKER (flash, rumble, rock)!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
hahahaha
you could like pinpoint the time where stork said "okay enough fucking around" and turned his macro into overdrive
cool game
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Flash doesnt look too pleased
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Hungary11291 Posts
Finally a remotely good game, wow. Flash with brilliant opening, Stork with such a strong fight management. Flash looking like end of world.
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Braavos36375 Posts
hahaha this game made no sense
1. flash kills shuttle+reaver with no loss
2. flash rapes a ton of probes
3. flash kills 2nd shuttle+reaver with no loss
4. flash takes 3rd base with tiny delay
5. flash kills 3rd shuttle+reaver with no loss
6. ???
7. stork breaks an even supply terran army and has 2 control groups left
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dang 2 tie breakers already
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i don't like stork much but gotta agree this guy's freakin ownage
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god damnit flash what the hell happened?
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If flash sees the TV coverage of that game, he'll be feeling Sick inside. Stork had absolutely no worries at all. Just an OOvesque rape-mode-initiated moment.
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On February 01 2008 19:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
hahaha this game made no sense
1. flash kills shuttle+reaver with no loss
2. flash rapes a ton of probes
3. flash kills 2nd shuttle+reaver with no loss
4. flash takes 3rd base with tiny delay
5. flash kills 3rd shuttle+reaver with no loss
6. ???
7. stork breaks an even supply terran army and has 2 control groups left
Indeed
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On February 01 2008 19:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
hahaha this game made no sense
1. flash kills shuttle+reaver with no loss
2. flash rapes a ton of probes
3. flash kills 2nd shuttle+reaver with no loss
4. flash takes 3rd base with tiny delay
5. flash kills 3rd shuttle+reaver with no loss
6. ???
7. stork breaks an even supply terran army and has 2 control groups left
Hahaha i was thinking the same thing :D
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LETS GO XELLOS! RUIN THIS FATTY ZERG!
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Thats two 3-way tiebreakers already. XellOs please win for a 3rd :-)
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On February 01 2008 19:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
hahaha this game made no sense
1. flash kills shuttle+reaver with no loss
2. flash rapes a ton of probes
3. flash kills 2nd shuttle+reaver with no loss
4. flash takes 3rd base with tiny delay
5. flash kills 3rd shuttle+reaver with no loss
6. ???
7. stork breaks an even supply terran army and has 2 control groups left
Didn't Flash lose a fair few SCVs for that third shuttle/reaver kill?
I'm not watching a stream, but reports made it sound like it was a micro/positioning error by Flash that let Stork do so well in that battle.
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come on xellos and much, do it for my LB!
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today is not my day...flash =( ...come on xellos win for bisu!
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On February 01 2008 19:30 Waves wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
hahaha this game made no sense
1. flash kills shuttle+reaver with no loss
2. flash rapes a ton of probes
3. flash kills 2nd shuttle+reaver with no loss
4. flash takes 3rd base with tiny delay
5. flash kills 3rd shuttle+reaver with no loss
6. ???
7. stork breaks an even supply terran army and has 2 control groups left Didn't Flash lose a fair few SCVs for that third shuttle/reaver kill? I'm not watching a stream, but reports made it sound like it was a micro/positioning error by Flash that let Stork do so well in that battle. the whole game just turned around when he lost all his tanks in the middle to that push break, imo it was flash's fault due to bad vulture/tank placement..
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On February 01 2008 19:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
hahaha this game made no sense
1. flash kills shuttle+reaver with no loss
2. flash rapes a ton of probes
3. flash kills 2nd shuttle+reaver with no loss
4. flash takes 3rd base with tiny delay
5. flash kills 3rd shuttle+reaver with no loss
6. ???
7. stork breaks an even supply terran army and has 2 control groups left
you forgot the
"flash snipes all 4 or 5 of storks high templars right before the center fight"
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On February 01 2008 19:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
hahaha this game made no sense
1. flash kills shuttle+reaver with no loss
2. flash rapes a ton of probes
3. flash kills 2nd shuttle+reaver with no loss
4. flash takes 3rd base with tiny delay
5. flash kills 3rd shuttle+reaver with no loss
6. ???
7. stork breaks an even supply terran army and has 2 control groups left
haha, I was thinking the same at the end of the game.
I waited for flashs army to arrive on battlefield but as long as I was waiting, there was no army left 
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On February 01 2008 19:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
hahaha this game made no sense
1. flash kills shuttle+reaver with no loss
2. flash rapes a ton of probes
3. flash kills 2nd shuttle+reaver with no loss
4. flash takes 3rd base with tiny delay
5. flash kills 3rd shuttle+reaver with no loss
6. ???
7. stork breaks an even supply terran army and has 2 control groups left
Flash built up a good advantage.
But every big battle they ensued Stork was able to get his zealots by the tanks. The first big battle, the one that turned the game around, Stork did a reaver/dt drop at 12, so Flash sent all his vultures there. Then Stork retreated his shuttle (using DT as bait) with reaver in it, and sent his army into Flash's army. Flash's vultures were still up at 12, unaware of the assault. By the time Flash realizes Stork's attack his vultures are too late to protect the tanks.
Then it happened again when Flash almost secured the middle the second time. This time he used his arbiters to cover the zealots. By the time Flash realized it and scanned, the zealots had gotten themselves close to Flash's tanks and wreak havoc again.
So yea, Flash built up a nice advantage, but Stork used some excellent battling techniques to win the big ones.
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On February 01 2008 19:04 Waves wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:02 Raithed wrote:
oh fuck you savior NOW you win? fuck fuck fuck. i never voted against you and this was my first. HATE YOU. Sea won comfortably in a very short game. Did you read the thread at all? Edit: Turns out Plexa put the wrong result in the OP results box.
i didnt read
thank god
savior
lost
:D
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On February 01 2008 19:30 Waves wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
hahaha this game made no sense
1. flash kills shuttle+reaver with no loss
2. flash rapes a ton of probes
3. flash kills 2nd shuttle+reaver with no loss
4. flash takes 3rd base with tiny delay
5. flash kills 3rd shuttle+reaver with no loss
6. ???
7. stork breaks an even supply terran army and has 2 control groups left Didn't Flash lose a fair few SCVs for that third shuttle/reaver kill? I'm not watching a stream, but reports made it sound like it was a micro/positioning error by Flash that let Stork do so well in that battle.
he lost some scvs, not a lot
in the first big battle, not enough mines, bad tank positioning
i mean stork had great macro for sure, but this game went against everything i knew about PvT... usually losing 1 shuttle+reaver = death, stork lost 3, and still managed to break flash's army with lots left over, how nuts
edit: yeah L2W, all three times Stork tried to break, he first dropped something somewhere so Flash would send some units back
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Any Terran player knows that a game can slip out of your fingers if you make 1 small mistake. It's so very delicate. Flash moved his force at the wrong time, in the wrong position, sieged 1 second too late, and lost his entire army. The game was lost since that moment.
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Also I forgot to note, Flash forgot to mine up in front of his tanks when Flash first broke the line.
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On February 01 2008 19:31 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
hahaha this game made no sense
1. flash kills shuttle+reaver with no loss
2. flash rapes a ton of probes
3. flash kills 2nd shuttle+reaver with no loss
4. flash takes 3rd base with tiny delay
5. flash kills 3rd shuttle+reaver with no loss
6. ???
7. stork breaks an even supply terran army and has 2 control groups left you forgot the "flash snipes all 4 or 5 of storks high templars right before the center fight"
That was just sick. I couldn't believe Stork took that fight so easy. I was 100% WTF was that? HTs could only make matters worse for Stork or something, because that break was so perfect. Weird ass situation anyway.
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I'm amazed that Stork actrually won a game WITHOUT going carriers after reavers.
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Come on Xellos. Save bisu!
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Wow
That Fat person commercial was epic lulz.
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On February 01 2008 19:36 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Come on July. Kill Bisu!
no : ((
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damn, savior is not doing well. since he's 0-3 hes getting sent to ODT next season, am i correct?
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Come on Xellos, save yourself and make a tiebreaker where people will hopefully advance due to decent games/something beyond a 10 minute all in.
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On February 01 2008 19:37 Harem wrote:
Wow
That Fat person commercial was epic lulz.
gtfo 4channer
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goooo xelloSSSS!! ^_^_^_^_^
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On February 01 2008 19:38 Day[9] wrote:
goooo xelloSSSS!! ^_^_^_^_^
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They replayed the critical battle and it looked even worse the 2nd time. 2/3s flash's tanks were unsieged and forward of the rest of his army, Flash had no vults because he used them to snipe temps, and there were no mines on the ground either.
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ok replay right now.
I was wrong. The first attack, the big one was before the dt/reaver drop at 12. Flash had 2-1 upgrades, wihle Stork had 1-0-0.
I think the only reason Stork won that battle is 1. Great unit positioning. When his goons fall be hind he manually brought them up closer to the tanks. 2. Few mines, did little damage to Zealots. 3. Few vultures. This was ironic. Flash first got more goliaths and vultures to defend the reaver drop, which he did. Then he gathered vultures, but lost about 6/7 in his probe hunt in Stork's base, then lost another 6~8 when he went templar hunting. Stork attacks right at thtat moment when Flash used up his vultures and needed to make more. Also the few that he had were moving back retreating behind the tanks, rather than shooting oncoming zealots. And there were no mines to kill them either.
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Go Tushin! His record against Xellos is good too.
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C'MON FATMAN!!!!!! <3
but damn that xellos is seksay too damn
lol nice chef hat
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there's noone left to root for in this OSL but Stork
strange strange ...
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On February 01 2008 19:38 HaXxorIzed wrote:
Come on Xellos, save yourself and make a tiebreaker where people will hopefully advance due to decent games/something beyond a 10 minute all in.
Yeah really. Hopefully Xellos can stop July's probable all in. Thats all he seems to do nowadays.
Up was able to stop both of them fairly well.
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After all these "save Bisu" posts, it will be amusing if Xellos forces the breaker and then knocks Bisu out to claim the spot himself. It's hard not to want Bisu to advance though. He's usually good fun in any multi-game series against another player.
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As opposed to multi game series against himself?
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SAVE BISU, XELLOS, SAVE BISU!
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Xellos sexy blue top left, July ugly yellow bottom right.
XELLOS PROXIES RAXX. JULY LATE POOL.
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On February 01 2008 19:46 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
As opposed to multi game series against himself?
Clumsily worded perhaps. The point was to exclude proleague, which has multi-game series where Bisu only plays in one (or occasionally two) of them, and where I have found him to be a bit less entertaining.
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On February 01 2008 19:46 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
As opposed to multi game series against himself? if anything that would probably be even more interesting. though he'd lose
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JULY 12 HATCH NAT
JULY SCOUTING AND PASSES THE BARRACKS WITHOUT SEEING THEM
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Oh lawd, there's some irony here.
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July did not find Xellos yet. Pool is very late compared to the BB in the middle of the map. July looks screwed with these BOs.
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DRONES COMING TO DEFEND
3 RINES+2SCVS VS JULY'S DRONES
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Finally a drone finds Xellos, July should have all alarm clocks ringing now. Sending his drones for defense. Stream skipped and shows July hitting the proxy raxx with his lings, while having VERY few drones left at his bases.
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Well there's our cheese build for the night.
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July stalling for time as Xellos builds up his rines some more. 18 / 18 for Xellos, 9 / 10 for July. Imo Xellos should just hit July's main and float his CC to the island expansion to be safe.
July lost lings at Xellos raxx, he is SCREWED.
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whyd xellos unload all the rines from the bunker?
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ALRIGHT, BISU IS IN!
THANKS XELLOS : DDDD
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july taking the pro out of "progamer"
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bah july should've like DONE SOMETHING
o well gg lol
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Yes, Bisu gets a second chance.
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This is OVER OVER OVER. Xellos ties the group!
edit: Man, troy is becoming so cheesy. BBS / 5 pool all the way.
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Oh man huge flash back from like 3 years ago.
I remember XellOs did a bunker rush on July, where July comes back with drone/ling counter attack and wins the game. Craziest game ever.
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lol. xellos looks proud!
at least some kind of face expression
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two tvz, no medics
wierd night
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Running July over with an unexpected Proxy when July tried a straight game.
Xellos, you stunning master of Irony you. < 3
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If Yarnc wins we get 4 tiebreakers no?
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XELLOS SAVED BISU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On February 01 2008 19:51 4daVii wrote:
whyd xellos unload all the rines from the bunker?
Because marine in a bunker have random targets. Outside of the bunker they auto fire on the closest target(priority given to "threats") and can be targeted to kill more efficiently.
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perfect rush from perfect terran...
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On February 01 2008 19:53 samachking wrote:
If Yarnc wins we get 4 tiebreakers no?
yupyup.
Although we have 2 tiebreakers then with 2 players getting through (A+D) and 2 tiebreakers with 1 getting through (B+C).
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On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer"
When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Had he scouted it, he would have prevented the rush.
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On February 01 2008 19:53 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:53 samachking wrote:
If Yarnc wins we get 4 tiebreakers no? yupyup.
dang, if that happens, that could be a really long day for all the tie breaker games
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Last time I watched the OSL tiebreakers, it took 4 hours, and it was only 2 tiebreakers.
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Now that was funny! :-)
Bisu's still in.
Three 3-way tie breakers! wooohoo!
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LOL Xellos knows he's out so he decides to all-in and get it over with quickly. Unfortunate for July...
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YarnC better win!!!!
I want YarnC to win to force a tie between him, much and Frozean, then Much and YarnC advance from the tiebreaker.
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So who's gonna play in the tiebreakers for the three groups ?
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it seemed like july defended it out well and was going to counter, but i guess it really was a tough spot.
three 3way ties! i kind of want group D to do a 3way also. all four groups having 3ways! mad.
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On February 01 2008 19:53 Jonteman wrote:
oov smiling : ))
I wasn't sure it was him at first, but when he smiled, I knew...
So is he permanently done with his Sc career? He's a Coach/Trainer now?
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On February 01 2008 19:54 samachking wrote:
Last time I watched the OSL tiebreakers, it took 4 hours, and it was only 2 tiebreakers.
That was the group with Hwasin, July and Iris I think, which just couldn't find an end.
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On February 01 2008 19:55 radadaundandan wrote:
So who's gonna play in the tiebreakers for the three groups ?
A: Sea/JaeDong/Best for 2 spots
B: Flash/Rumble/Rock for 1 spot
C: July/Bisu/XellOs for 1 spot
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On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever.
Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo.
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On February 01 2008 19:55 lostman wrote:
LOL Xellos knows he's out so he decides to all-in and get it over with quickly. Unfortunate for July...
Xellos isn't out. Bisu, July, and Xellos are in a tiebreaker situation for second place in the group.
July could have advanced with yarnc had he won that game, Xellos had to win to send it to tiebreaker where he can attempt to qualify.
If things follow current trend this would be a really funny tiebreaker round. Bisu>Xellos>July>Bisu over and over hahahah
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On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Had he scouted it, he would have prevented the rush. yeah kidding kidding. didn't really mean that
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On February 01 2008 19:56 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:55 lostman wrote:
LOL Xellos knows he's out so he decides to all-in and get it over with quickly. Unfortunate for July... July could have advanced with yarnc had he won that game, Xellos had to win to send it to tiebreaker where he can attempt to qualify.
wrong twin
lux!
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if yarn wins we have a 4th tie (for two spots between much/frozean/yarnc)
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On February 01 2008 19:56 Hittegods wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo.
uh against a 12hatch 11pool thats exactly what it is if the zerg misses it
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On February 01 2008 19:58 Jonteman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:56 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 19:55 lostman wrote:
LOL Xellos knows he's out so he decides to all-in and get it over with quickly. Unfortunate for July... July could have advanced with yarnc had he won that game, Xellos had to win to send it to tiebreaker where he can attempt to qualify. wrong twin lux!
SHIT ASS BALLS
yeah luxury not yarnc
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omg.. just came home. i was shaking with anticipation before clicking the link for last page of the thread, to see if xellos made it.
YES! tie-breakers!!! GO BISU!!
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Woot oov has ended his career ? WTF ??!?
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On February 01 2008 19:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:56 Hittegods wrote:On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo. uh against a 12hatch 11pool thats exactly what it is if the zerg misses it
Did you go blind during that drone vs marine/scv battle right before the lings came? That was the decisive battle right there. If July got his drones to surround the marines like he use to do a long time ago that game would have been over.
Definately an intense micro skirmish, much more than a simple a-move.
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also, i'm smiling as i read that xellos cheesed. that's just wonderful. bisu got screwed by cheese two days ago, and it was cheese that saved him. nice!
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On February 01 2008 19:53 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:51 4daVii wrote:
whyd xellos unload all the rines from the bunker? Because marine in a bunker have random targets. Outside of the bunker they auto fire on the closest target(priority given to "threats") and can be targeted to kill more efficiently.
I think the question is why didnt he leave 1 marine in the bunker
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I'm hoping for Bisu to proxy gate July and win that myself, tbh. I don't think July/Xellos are actually playing strong enough to win their tiebreaker against Bisu, unless they pull off an allin/similar strategy. Rock/Flash/Rumble could be good however, and Sea/Best/Jaedong should be good. It depends on if Sea decides to play horribly as he did against Jaedong/Light and if Best delivers as well.
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On February 01 2008 19:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:56 Hittegods wrote:On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo. uh against a 12hatch 11pool thats exactly what it is if the zerg misses it
So what you're saying is that it requires a lot of skill to do a 2rax proxy rush, or am I just mistaken? I don't know who meant what anymore...
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On February 01 2008 19:56 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:55 lostman wrote:
LOL Xellos knows he's out so he decides to all-in and get it over with quickly. Unfortunate for July... Xellos isn't out. Bisu, July, and Xellos are in a tiebreaker situation for second place in the group. July could have advanced with yarnc had he won that game, Xellos had to win to send it to tiebreaker where he can attempt to qualify. If things follow current trend this would be a really funny tiebreaker round. Bisu>Xellos>July>Bisu over and over hahahah
You are so right, my mistake >_<
Damn these tie-breakers are gonna last all night at this rate...
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On February 01 2008 19:52 Live2Win wrote:
Oh man huge flash back from like 3 years ago.
I remember XellOs did a bunker rush on July, where July comes back with drone/ling counter attack and wins the game. Craziest game ever.
The one on Forte ? I liked the one vs NaDa on R-Point better, but its still good to see that kind of cheese being raped.
July and his tiebreakers. Werent there like 8 tiebreaker matches between him, Iris and Hwasin in the last OSL? Potential situation for that happening again if Bisu doesnt adjust his PvZ or July stops allining against Terrans(vs Protoss it seems to work for him).
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On February 01 2008 19:56 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:55 lostman wrote:
LOL Xellos knows he's out so he decides to all-in and get it over with quickly. Unfortunate for July... Xellos isn't out. Bisu, July, and Xellos are in a tiebreaker situation for second place in the group. July could have advanced with yarnc had he won that game, Xellos had to win to send it to tiebreaker where he can attempt to qualify. If things follow current trend this would be a really funny tiebreaker round. Bisu>Xellos>July>Bisu over and over hahahah
you gotta be kidding... while bisu is slumping hard atm, he is still better than xellos and july who basically slumped years ago while nowadays they are just mediocre players. none of them deserves to get further imo cus they all played way below their potential. bisu having the most of that (potential) and the ridiculous P maps this season make this an easy bet.
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On February 01 2008 19:59 radadaundandan wrote:
Woot oov has ended his career ? WTF ??!? eh?
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Wee this next match looks like it's gonna be epic :D
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On February 01 2008 20:00 GeLaar wrote:
also, i'm smiling as i read that xellos cheesed. that's just wonderful. bisu got screwed by cheese two days ago, and it was cheese that saved him. nice!
irony at it's best
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FUCK, the first pic in my Luxury article is on Yarnc's celebratory (that's what it's called right?). Either I got the wrong pic, or they use pictures of each other since they can't see the difference themselves.
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when r the decider matches gonna be played ?
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On February 01 2008 20:01 Guybrush wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:52 Live2Win wrote:
Oh man huge flash back from like 3 years ago.
I remember XellOs did a bunker rush on July, where July comes back with drone/ling counter attack and wins the game. Craziest game ever. The one on Forte ? I liked the one vs NaDa on R-Point better, but its still good to see that kind of cheese being raped. July and his tiebreakers. Werent there like 8 tiebreaker matches between him, Iris and Hwasin in the last OSL? Potential situation for that happening again if Bisu doesnt adjust his PvZ or July stops allining against Terrans(vs Protoss it seems to work for him).
yea I actually remember 3 of the craziest bunker-rush comeback games ever... and they're all from July.
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lmao at the commentators
girls are screaming things like "park myungsoo is good looking!"
commentator: if he could hear this he would be very happy right now. and there must be another person out there who is feeling very good...
lololol
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On February 01 2008 20:04 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
when r the decider matches gonna be played ?
Wednesday. I THINK they're gonna play em all.
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LOL a guy just yelled out "park youngmin is good looking!"
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On February 01 2008 20:04 Barbarne wrote:
FUCK, the first pic in my Luxury article is on Yarnc's celebratory (that's what it's called right?). Either I got the wrong pic, or they use pictures of each other since they can't see the difference themselves.
ROFL
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On February 01 2008 20:05 LosingID8 wrote:
lmao at the commentators
girls are screaming things like "park myungsoo is good looking!"
commentator: if he could hear this he would be very happy right now. and there must be another person out there who is feeling very good...
lololol
LOOOL! that's gold!
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Savior got cheers during the intro even for the game he isn't playing for. That's nice.
Has he deserved it lately? No.
Would I still scream like a little girl if I ever saw him? Yes.
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LOL AT THE CHEER !!!!! GO MUCH !!!!
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On February 01 2008 20:04 Live2Win wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:00 GeLaar wrote:
also, i'm smiling as i read that xellos cheesed. that's just wonderful. bisu got screwed by cheese two days ago, and it was cheese that saved him. nice! irony at it's best
omg the beesuit fanboys! it didnt "save" him. it just prolonged his stay in bacchus osl. even if he makes it out of the tiebreaker, it will just be for his fanboys to see him get slaughtered in the ro8. At least us savior fanboys accepted the fact that savior is dead atm, funny that most bisu fanboys havent quite gotten that bisu is dead too. with his current form, he wont go anywhere near finals.
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Gogogogo,
Brown Yellow at 3, Teal Much at 6. Katrina!
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Much is at 6 and has a pylon by his nexus at his front. Yarnc scouting the right way from 3. Hes made an overlord first.
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lol at people cheering
its like the fans are fighting haha
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Both are, surprisingly, expanding to their backdoor naturals. Totally new approach to Katrina here.
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12 hatch 11 pool standard stuff. Nexus then forge for much.
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I hope Katrina is not in Bisu's tiebreaker rotation, since he will have to win by skill again. The only win he got so far was on Katrina which is auto win.
Fuck katrina, even though there are some really nice TvZs on it.
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3rd hatch down for yarnc. A gateway goes up before 1 cannon.
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Quick gas and core for much. Zerg responds by taking the closer 2nd nat. 1 zeal out. Blocks the gap above the gateway.
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Both players taking their second gas at the same time.
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A probe just barely gets by 12 or so lings to scout the 2nd nat. A goon is out and will take out an overlord, fleeing for its life at 3 mph.
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Yellow pumping lings now, Much still 1 cannon 1 zealot. Danger?
edit: 2nd cannon finishes warping, Much is safe for now.
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man those screaming banshees-i mean schoolgirls- are a real pest. this one time, at a savior vs bisu game, there was one standing about a meter or so away from me; she yelled savior's name so loud i thought i'd gone deaf on one ear...
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Hes not "pumping" lings. But merely making enough to react to 2 zeal harass if it came. It didnt though. Much has another cannon going up and his gosu probe sees the hydra den. A quick citadel/archive down. Plus a fast second gate-- no stargate. Lair is done for zerg...spire going up. Interesting reaction from zerg. Maybe he will go muta knowing much saw the den.
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yay beautaliskus, go go go
edit: lol so much for that
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anybody else thinks the maps this season are the worst in starleagues for ages? its almost exclusively been shitty games every week...
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Sunk going up at the zerg main. 1 dt out. As well as 1 temp. Zerg lacks detection at his main. Much playing safe. Makes 3 cannons at his nat. Sees he expects/wants to prepare just in case for muta. Only one cannon at his main nexus min line. Some muta out..not many though, like6. Much reacts well and storm them right away, 4 goons chase them off.
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On February 01 2008 20:15 diehilde wrote:
anybody else thinks the maps this season are the worst in starleagues for ages? its almost exclusively been shitty games every week...
No. No I don't.
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are the tie-breakers gonna use that one map they're eliminating from the map pool after ro16?
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The other templar storms right away when the mutas come back, and then morphs with the other. Evo down for zerg. Lurks morphing but much has a huge goon army. No robo yet though. Almost done. Looking good for much. However lurks are slowing down his attempt to take his second nat while zerg takes a 4th base. 2 more evos down. Reacting to the mass goons with triple ups hydra/ling most likely.
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wow that's a lot of lurkers dying i hear...
edit: what a rape
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Much adds 2 more gates for a total of 6. Zerg has ovie speed finally. Obs out! Much crushes the small forces delaying his 2nd nat, he should take it soon. Zerg setting up hydra/lurk to slow the advancement. But much has more than one ob. This is critical right now. Zerg has 5 ovies loaded up ! Much breaking the front. One ob goes down. Zerg trying to flank but much too strong. Stops that cold. Another attack force from the front. Some goons go down but its stoped as well. 12 zealots comming to reenforce!
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TheFoReveRwaR could you say "up" when they build stuff and "down" when they destroy stuff instead? =(
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Much is at the zerg front with 20 or so goons and some zeals. Looking unstopable unless zergpulls a LOT of units from no where. He might just do that. But hes taking huge damage.
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okay okay stupid post
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Some lings stop the trailing temps but its too late. Yarnc overextends himself 2 base against 4. Much had a great unit mix when he moved out and just rolled everything.
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Yarnc looks upset and ggs.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Haha, frozean ro8 :D
Very good timing and mix on that attack, good job grandpa.
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wow...much is a beast, more so than i thought
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oh fuck i just thought of something
Demons Forest for tiebreaker? :O
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i thought yarnc was plotting a massive drop?
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On February 01 2008 20:19 Aepplet wrote:
TheFoReveRwaR could you say "up" when they build stuff and "down" when they destroy stuff instead? =(
I freaking do?
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wow, katrina ftw! 4 completely WHACK games. i guess the only positive thing about this day is it cant get any worse.
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Pimp fake drop, yarnc, really pimp. If only you could make Much believe you had infinite resources it might have worked.
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On February 01 2008 20:21 kramus wrote:
i thought yarnc was plotting a massive drop?
The camera didnt show but Im pretty sure it was dropped to help defend the main. Thats where the flank came from.
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damn that zvp was depressing!
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okay wasnt a stupid post at all
yarn wastet his mass lurx (vs almost goons only O.o) one by one
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Yarncs' should have nailed that first observer with his mutas, that could have bought him enought time to hold. Much had some nice unit control and reinforced his goons with zeals just in time.
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Live2Win
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On February 01 2008 20:07 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:04 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 20:00 GeLaar wrote:
also, i'm smiling as i read that xellos cheesed. that's just wonderful. bisu got screwed by cheese two days ago, and it was cheese that saved him. nice! irony at it's best omg the beesuit fanboys! it didnt "save" him. it just prolonged his stay in bacchus osl. even if he makes it out of the tiebreaker, it will just be for his fanboys to see him get slaughtered in the ro8. At least us savior fanboys accepted the fact that savior is dead atm, funny that most bisu fanboys havent quite gotten that bisu is dead too. with his current form, he wont go anywhere near finals.
what the fuck who the fuck are you to fucking call me a fucking bisu fanboy.
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On February 01 2008 20:21 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:19 Aepplet wrote:
TheFoReveRwaR could you say "up" when they build stuff and "down" when they destroy stuff instead? =( I freaking do?
no, you say down when they build stuff =)
3rd hatch down for yarnc, evo down, two more evos down etc.
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Hungary11291 Posts
On February 01 2008 20:22 diehilde wrote:
wow, katrina ftw! 4 completely WHACK games. i guess the only positive thing about this day is it cant get any worse.
Actually I found today more entertaining than most other starleague playdays in the past weeks - Stork vs. Flash was an alright game, the TvZ games were - well, weird, but a bit funny. And this game was solid at least. And finally the right people won
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Much and Stork are the only seeds that proved themselves with 3-0
This OSL will be a Protoss OSL
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On February 01 2008 20:21 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:19 Aepplet wrote:
TheFoReveRwaR could you say "up" when they build stuff and "down" when they destroy stuff instead? =( I freaking do?
Sometimes I say down when they place a building but if you can't tell from the context then im sorry, but youre an idiot. If I dont mention an attack and say a building is down, what the heck do you think I mean?
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any recommended game today?
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anyone happen to know the name of the song that's playing while they're displaying the standings? sounds oddly familiar but i can't quite place it.
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On February 01 2008 20:00 Live2Win wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 19:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 19:56 Hittegods wrote:On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo. uh against a 12hatch 11pool thats exactly what it is if the zerg misses it Did you go blind during that drone vs marine/scv battle right before the lings came? That was the decisive battle right there. If July got his drones to surround the marines like he use to do a long time ago that game would have been over. Definately an intense micro skirmish, much more than a simple a-move.
what? who the hell do you think you're talking to? its just drones, any idiot can run from drones long enough to let an unmolested bunker complete
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How could you not hate katrina? I think every PvZ game with a decent P player, this exact thing happened except bisu savior.
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On February 01 2008 20:24 UbRi wrote:
any recommended game today?
Stork vs Flash only
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On February 01 2008 20:24 VioleTAK wrote:
Katrina won again.
QFT
EDIT:
How is the Ro8 going to work? A1vs? B1vs?
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On February 01 2008 20:23 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:22 diehilde wrote:
wow, katrina ftw! 4 completely WHACK games. i guess the only positive thing about this day is it cant get any worse. Actually I found today more entertaining than most other starleague playdays in the past weeks - Stork vs. Flash was an alright game, the TvZ games were - well, weird, but a bit funny. And this game was solid at least. And finally the right people won this last game was horrible T_T oh well, nite guys
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Hungary11291 Posts
On February 01 2008 20:24 UbRi wrote:
any recommended game today?
If any, Stork vs. Flash. Watch Sea vs. Savior and Xellos vs. July for funstuff, won't take you long.
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Much won, Katrina helped.
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Live2Win
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On February 01 2008 20:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:00 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 19:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 19:56 Hittegods wrote:On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo. uh against a 12hatch 11pool thats exactly what it is if the zerg misses it Did you go blind during that drone vs marine/scv battle right before the lings came? That was the decisive battle right there. If July got his drones to surround the marines like he use to do a long time ago that game would have been over. Definately an intense micro skirmish, much more than a simple a-move. what? who the hell do you think you're talking to? its just drones, any idiot can run from drones long enough to let an unmolested bunker complete
but it wasn't a-move.
IMO july was an idiot to not cancel his hatch as soon as he saw the first marine arrive.
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CA10828 Posts
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Savior
Still voting for you whenever I can.
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My first 4/4 since the first group in the new liquibet season
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 01 2008 20:26 Live2Win wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 20:00 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 19:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 19:56 Hittegods wrote:On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo. uh against a 12hatch 11pool thats exactly what it is if the zerg misses it Did you go blind during that drone vs marine/scv battle right before the lings came? That was the decisive battle right there. If July got his drones to surround the marines like he use to do a long time ago that game would have been over. Definately an intense micro skirmish, much more than a simple a-move. what? who the hell do you think you're talking to? its just drones, any idiot can run from drones long enough to let an unmolested bunker complete but it wasn't a-move. IMO july was an idiot to not cancel his hatch as soon as he saw the first marine arrive.
it might as well have been, the point isnt the specific commands issued its how completely over the game was when july's drone missed the barracks
and he's not an idiot not to cancel the hatchery. what are you talking about? an extra hatchery means more larva and the ability to make sunken colonies. cancelling the hatchery doesn't do anything, there's no way you can get sunkens up in time in your main if there's no longer a fat target at your nat
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when will the ties start?
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Much won without corsairs... Much build!!
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Damn, i would so much have taken MS(yarnc) over frozean every day, but after losing to him on demon's forest, he didn't really deserve it. Next season we will hopefully have some fights between the twins.
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4/4 unfortunately :/ Wanted fake YellOw to beat Katrina, didn't happen today.
Very glad Sea is forcing a kickass 3-way tie for 2 spots! Sea + Jaedong ftw. Sea + Best if must, but Sea must make it through :-)
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On February 01 2008 20:07 diehilde wrote:
omg the beesuit fanboys! it didnt "save" him. it just prolonged his stay in bacchus osl. even if he makes it out of the tiebreaker, it will just be for his fanboys to see him get slaughtered in the ro8. At least us savior fanboys accepted the fact that savior is dead atm, funny that most bisu fanboys havent quite gotten that bisu is dead too. with his current form, he wont go anywhere near finals.
There's a difference between the way Bisu and Savior have gone in this OSL so far, though. Savior played horribly in all three games, Bisu lost to a timed all in on his weakest PvZ map and was hit with a 5pool which many noted was only going to work 1/3 times, which Bisu scouted last. I agree Bisu needs to step his game the hell up if he wants to make it past the Ro8, but I don't think we've actually seen enough straight up losses to say he's 'dead' yet.
After all, that is how we identified Savior was slumping, wasn't it?
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Live2Win
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But we've seen zerg's pull some crazy shit before. I remember an Arcadia game where Yooi pulls a BBS center rax rush on Savior, who did 12 hatch, lost most of his drones and failed to stop the bunker, but still come out and win on that.
We've also seen July pull craziest comeback games vs bunker rushes (though most not BBS) before.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Anyway, we have in Ro8:
Group winners: Stork, Much, Luxury, [JD / Sea / Best]
Group 2nds: Frozean, [Bisu / Xellos / July], [JD / Sea / Best], [Rock / Flash / Rumble]
The rest is undecided, wow . All the tiebreakers have three races represented and so far we have 2 x P, 1 x Z and 1 x T in Ro8.
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On February 01 2008 20:28 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:26 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 20:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 20:00 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 19:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 19:56 Hittegods wrote:On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo. uh against a 12hatch 11pool thats exactly what it is if the zerg misses it Did you go blind during that drone vs marine/scv battle right before the lings came? That was the decisive battle right there. If July got his drones to surround the marines like he use to do a long time ago that game would have been over. Definately an intense micro skirmish, much more than a simple a-move. what? who the hell do you think you're talking to? its just drones, any idiot can run from drones long enough to let an unmolested bunker complete but it wasn't a-move. IMO july was an idiot to not cancel his hatch as soon as he saw the first marine arrive. it might as well have been, the point isnt the specific commands issued its how completely over the game was when july's drone missed the barracks and he's not an idiot not to cancel the hatchery. what are you talking about? an extra hatchery means more larva and the ability to make sunken colonies. cancelling the hatchery doesn't do anything, there's no way you can get sunkens up in time in your main if there's no longer a fat target at your nat
He would have ~300 extra minerals. And with proper drone micro he could have delayed the marines till sunks are up.
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[QUOTE]On February 01 2008 20:23 Live2Win wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 01 2008 20:07 diehilde wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 01 2008 20:04 Live2Win wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 01 2008 20:00 GeLaar wrote:
also, i'm smiling as i read that xellos cheesed. that's just wonderful. bisu got screwed by cheese two days ago, and it was cheese that saved him. nice![/QUOTE]
irony at it's best[/QUOTE]
omg the beesuit fanboys! it didnt "save" him. it just prolonged his stay in bacchus osl. even if he makes it out of the tiebreaker, it will just be for his fanboys to see him get slaughtered in the ro8. At least us savior fanboys accepted the fact that savior is dead atm, funny that most bisu fanboys havent quite gotten that bisu is dead too. with his current form, he wont go anywhere near finals.[/QUOTE]
One good cheese deserves another.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 01 2008 20:32 mdb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:28 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 20:26 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 20:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 20:00 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 19:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 19:56 Hittegods wrote:On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo. uh against a 12hatch 11pool thats exactly what it is if the zerg misses it Did you go blind during that drone vs marine/scv battle right before the lings came? That was the decisive battle right there. If July got his drones to surround the marines like he use to do a long time ago that game would have been over. Definately an intense micro skirmish, much more than a simple a-move. what? who the hell do you think you're talking to? its just drones, any idiot can run from drones long enough to let an unmolested bunker complete but it wasn't a-move. IMO july was an idiot to not cancel his hatch as soon as he saw the first marine arrive. it might as well have been, the point isnt the specific commands issued its how completely over the game was when july's drone missed the barracks and he's not an idiot not to cancel the hatchery. what are you talking about? an extra hatchery means more larva and the ability to make sunken colonies. cancelling the hatchery doesn't do anything, there's no way you can get sunkens up in time in your main if there's no longer a fat target at your nat He would have ~300 extra minerals. And with proper drone micro he could have delayed the marines till sunks are up.
that wouldn't really change the final outcome. two proxied barracks get marines to a zerg base really, really fast.
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So who has impressed the most of the group 3-0 winners?
I think Stork is looking as strong as ever, winning against all three races.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 01 2008 20:35 Adamthegreat wrote:
So who has impressed the most of the group 3-0 winners?
I think Stork is looking as strong as ever, winning against all three races.
in my opinion the most impressive 3-0 was by luxury, really kind of surprising. stork had two losers and his kicktoy flash in his group, much had two losers and yarnc
luxury had two legends who are playing like losers and bisu, but luxury is more of a loser than stork and much in OSL
i said 'loser' five times in this post
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I don't know if canceling the hatch would have been better but he would have had to make a sunken and lings that would be useless once the geysers go down, playing 1 base island. And that's assuming he manages to hold the 2 rax constant rine pump.
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Live2Win
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On February 01 2008 20:32 mdb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:28 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 20:26 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 20:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 20:00 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 19:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 19:56 Hittegods wrote:On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo. uh against a 12hatch 11pool thats exactly what it is if the zerg misses it Did you go blind during that drone vs marine/scv battle right before the lings came? That was the decisive battle right there. If July got his drones to surround the marines like he use to do a long time ago that game would have been over. Definately an intense micro skirmish, much more than a simple a-move. what? who the hell do you think you're talking to? its just drones, any idiot can run from drones long enough to let an unmolested bunker complete but it wasn't a-move. IMO july was an idiot to not cancel his hatch as soon as he saw the first marine arrive. it might as well have been, the point isnt the specific commands issued its how completely over the game was when july's drone missed the barracks and he's not an idiot not to cancel the hatchery. what are you talking about? an extra hatchery means more larva and the ability to make sunken colonies. cancelling the hatchery doesn't do anything, there's no way you can get sunkens up in time in your main if there's no longer a fat target at your nat He would have ~300 extra minerals. And with proper drone micro he could have delayed the marines till sunks are up.
Agreed. If July started building a creep right as soon as he saw the marines, waited to cancel his hatch until the last minute to buy time for the creep to finish, then morphed the sunken and lings with the extra ~275 minerals he would get as he cancels his hatch, he would have had the time to block the rush (he could use drones to buy more time too).
Of course the problem still remains that Xellos would just back off and kill the assimilators and trap July in, which is probably why he chose to use that strat on this map specifically.
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On February 01 2008 20:39 Live2Win wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:32 mdb wrote:On February 01 2008 20:28 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 20:26 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 20:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 20:00 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 19:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 01 2008 19:56 Hittegods wrote:On February 01 2008 19:54 Barbarne wrote:On February 01 2008 19:51 kramus wrote:
july taking the pro out of "progamer" When was it required to have a sixth sense for when your opponent is cheesing to be called pro? It's not like there was any skill in that game whatsoever. Yeah, obviously no skill whatsoever. You proxy some rax, a-move and wait for your win. Gtfo. uh against a 12hatch 11pool thats exactly what it is if the zerg misses it Did you go blind during that drone vs marine/scv battle right before the lings came? That was the decisive battle right there. If July got his drones to surround the marines like he use to do a long time ago that game would have been over. Definately an intense micro skirmish, much more than a simple a-move. what? who the hell do you think you're talking to? its just drones, any idiot can run from drones long enough to let an unmolested bunker complete but it wasn't a-move. IMO july was an idiot to not cancel his hatch as soon as he saw the first marine arrive. it might as well have been, the point isnt the specific commands issued its how completely over the game was when july's drone missed the barracks and he's not an idiot not to cancel the hatchery. what are you talking about? an extra hatchery means more larva and the ability to make sunken colonies. cancelling the hatchery doesn't do anything, there's no way you can get sunkens up in time in your main if there's no longer a fat target at your nat He would have ~300 extra minerals. And with proper drone micro he could have delayed the marines till sunks are up. Agreed. If July started building a creep right as soon as he saw the marines, waited to cancel his hatch until the last minute to buy time for the creep to finish, then morphed the sunken and lings with the extra ~275 minerals he would get as he cancels his hatch, he would have had the time to block the rush (he could use drones to buy more time too). Of course the problem still remains that Xellos would just back off and kill the assimilators and trap July in, which is probably why he chose to use that strat on this map specifically.
xellos stalled his marines, he didnt rally directly to july's nat
there was less time to cancel and make a creep colony in his main than you think there was
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Hungary11291 Posts
On February 01 2008 20:35 Adamthegreat wrote:
So who has impressed the most of the group 3-0 winners?
I think Stork is looking as strong as ever, winning against all three races.
I would say that Stork and Much did what there was to do, without too much fanciness. Ok, Stork's display against Flash was marvellous, but apart from that he did his job, which is dominate until quarters / semis and then forget goon range. That is the Stork we know.
Much on the other hand had arguably a rather weak group (thanks to seniority bonus) and performed as he was supposed to - which should not serve to lower the respect, playing as good as you are expected to still takes some effort (hello Bisu).
Luxury on the other hand was far from the clear favourite in his group, which was probably the toughest one apart from group 1 (which, after Savior's abysmal performance, appears less group-of-deathly now). Against July, Bisu, and Xellos he was never the clear favourite. If you check Liquibet, Luxury was 293 - 418 against July, 438 - 298 against Xellos and 156 - 611 against Bisu. While you can question the expertise of Liquibetters, this clearly shows that Luxury performed alot better than expected and thus also as the most impressive of the 3-0 guys.
edit: Besides, all the group winners beat all three races. Fascinating that an allocation of 2 x A, B, C always yields a group winner of race A. Quite imbalanced.
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On February 01 2008 20:31 Aesop wrote:Anyway, we have in Ro8: Group winners: Stork, Much, Luxury, [JD / Sea / Best] Group 2nds: Frozean, [Bisu / Xellos / July], [JD / Sea / Best], [Rock / Flash / Rumble]The rest is undecided, wow . All the tiebreakers have three races represented and so far we have 2 x P, 1 x Z and 1 x T in Ro8.
Sounds more like a description than the names of progamers.
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On February 01 2008 20:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:35 Adamthegreat wrote:
So who has impressed the most of the group 3-0 winners?
I think Stork is looking as strong as ever, winning against all three races. in my opinion the most impressive 3-0 was by luxury, really kind of surprising. stork had two losers and his kicktoy flash in his group, much had two losers and yarnc luxury had two legends who are playing like losers and bisu, but luxury is more of a loser than stork and much in OSL i said 'loser' five times in this post
yea... a lot of losers in starleague
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While theorycrafting about how July could've defended Xellos's attack, you guys are forgetting something. You need a hatchery, to have creep, to build creep/sunken colonies. If the hatchery is canceled, there will be no sunkens and you're gonna be stuck inside your base.
Although July couldn't pull off some insane comeback today, it was probably not possible since he failed to scout the proxy.
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Funny how Frozean and Luxury are both in the quarters now. I wrote those guys off 1~1.5 years ago after numerous failed attempts to qualify.
Good to see them finally living up to their potential, allthough I see way more potential in Luxury if he can clean up his ZvP(which he seems to be on the way of doing).
I always had the impression Frozean had a stellar TvZ from replays a couple of years ago, however as of late, its his TvP games that have been convincing, while his TvZ seems sloppy but with macro to maintain a decent level.
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On February 01 2008 21:17 vnlegend wrote:
While theorycrafting about how July could've defended Xellos's attack, you guys are forgetting something. You need a hatchery, to have creep, to build creep/sunken colonies. If the hatchery is canceled, there will be no sunkens and you're gonna be stuck inside your base.
Although July couldn't pull off some insane comeback today, it was probably not possible since he failed to scout the proxy.
Um, thats what theyre talking about. Sunkens in the main.
Regardless, it is possible to defend a proxy BB bunker rush even with 12 hatch poor scouting, but its really really really hard. Especially on Troy where early aggression can trap your opponent in his base for a long time. So basically, 12 hatch is a pretty dumb idea on Troy, and July should have been extra wary of early rush cheese, and he was just kinda oblivious.
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its now clear to me, savior switched to terran... i was just hoping for xellos to win and he did it, what a great day for starcraft! bisu should take his chance or go drinking a beer with savior and watch the games on the TV
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savior stop making me so emo
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savior, you fucking suck.
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On February 01 2008 15:14 RowdierBob wrote:
Sea
Stork
Xellos
Much
Easy game.
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4/4! yay
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Thank god, Much is doing well so far. I still believe CJ
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Why do i ever vote for you July?
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On February 01 2008 21:23 Guybrush wrote:
Funny how Frozean and Luxury are both in the quarters now. I wrote those guys off 1~1.5 years ago after numerous failed attempts to qualify.
I expect Luxury to be fine, but I doubt Frozean is going to get very far. How he keeps qualifying for OSL is beyond me. He got past the group stage because his group was fairly weak.
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Interesting how Jaedong started the OSL with a bang, dominating the first 2 games, and now has a chance of being eliminated.
The curse is strong!
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YEAHHHHhh go Twins.
Everyone that was a hopeful prospect years ago have finally begun to realize their potential.
This is a sad/wierd but interesting time in progaming.
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Flash needs to get his TvP shit back together and return to cheesing.
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yeah seriously, with his 9-0 record versus protoss and 2232 ELO to start off almost made his cheesing look like a sustainable style
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4/4 easy today ! yesterday was crap
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what a great day in the osl
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On February 01 2008 20:07 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 20:04 Live2Win wrote:On February 01 2008 20:00 GeLaar wrote:
also, i'm smiling as i read that xellos cheesed. that's just wonderful. bisu got screwed by cheese two days ago, and it was cheese that saved him. nice! irony at it's best omg the beesuit fanboys! it didnt "save" him. it just prolonged his stay in bacchus osl. even if he makes it out of the tiebreaker, it will just be for his fanboys to see him get slaughtered in the ro8. At least us savior fanboys accepted the fact that savior is dead atm, funny that most bisu fanboys havent quite gotten that bisu is dead too. with his current form, he wont go anywhere near finals.
He's not dead. Wanna fight about it?
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Beesuit is not dead WTF are you talking about? Its retards like these that make me cringe sometimes when reading these kind of threads. Goddamn stupid fan boys, listen Bisu didn't play sloppily in his recent games, vs Jaedong he played very well but did mistakes and same vs Yellow, July all-ined him by suprise and luxury 9-pooled him so Bisu is not playing bad.
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Menziek, I think we all know who the real fanboy is.
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I just got home today to watch the games and I just have to burst out loud (although it's prolly been said a dozen times) but holy crap the PvT by Stork @ Flash. What an amazing play to make it out of mid game after all those failed initiatives. Any other Protoss would have been absolutely steamrolled there.
I'm so totally impressed by the setup-breaks he pulled off towards the mid/late game.
Stork fighting!
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as fun as SC is, it would be hard to imagine a whole career at it... playing.. then coaching... Life would be rather narrow don't you think? i guess i should see sports the same way. entertainment is entertainment.
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how come the fangirls (and some boys lol) were so crazy in the much vs. yellow game and quiet when xellos and savior played ????? As for the games, not very surprising results. I did expect savior to put up a better fight though 
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Just watched the games and read the comments and wanted to add that : Who knows? Maybe Jaedong is the unlucky guy who will play Flash twice, I mean yes Jaedong is Jaedong, but if there is someone who can beat him in bo3 or bo5 at the moment this is Flash and Bisu eventually
edit: wrong thread so sorry
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