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The last game is starting:
 BackHo < Troy >  YellOw[ArnC]
BackHo is at 7 o'clock.
Yarnc is at 1 o'clock.
GL both of them!
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the music of the trailer is totally gay
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On January 23 2008 21:07 Catyoul wrote:
Troy
Jeadong top right
Backho bottom left
P does pylon at his nat
It is yarnc not jd.
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On January 23 2008 21:07 Catyoul wrote:
Troy
Jeadong top right
Backho bottom left
P does pylon at his nat
you mean Yarnc?
>.> already 3 other ppl said it before me 
Go Yarnc anyway !!
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Both of them scouting in wrong directions, but BackHo found Yarnc faster  .
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
On January 23 2008 21:07 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2008 21:04 diehilde wrote:On January 23 2008 20:57 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 23 2008 20:56 azndsh wrote:On January 23 2008 20:48 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 23 2008 20:46 diehilde wrote:On January 23 2008 20:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 23 2008 20:43 diehilde wrote:
if bisu is ANY kind of a fair sportsman he will concede the game i disagree, if he is any type of sportsman he'll instantly take the regame professional sports is a business and people make a living on it, you don't give away opportunities for victory and money for "honor" if the referees make a call in your favor, you take the regame pf I disagree and Im 100% certain that some of the respected old school progamers who still take manners seriously WOULD have conceded that game. maybe back in 2001, but not now if the refs make a bad call in soccer or basketball or whatever do the players who benefited from it say "well you guys are right, here take the game" ?? no, because sometimes you are on the bad end, sometimes you are on the good end, it's the nature of random chance. if you are lucky, seize it. This is exactly why I respect progamers far more than athletes in any other sport. Good sportsmanship is a requirement for progaming. In every other sport, it's just a foul, and you'll get a fine/suspension if you do something really outrageous. There's no steroid usage, dog fighting, or throwing punches. OGN should allow for a regame, and Bisu should concede. this is mostly because it's not a mainstream sport, if millions of dollars were on the line, your "honor" goes right out the window sure it's easy to concede when the culture and community is still small and close knit and your entire life isn't banking on one game osl finals, yellow's last chance at an OSL title, 5th game final set this happens, you think he'd not take the option at a regame? what if the prize money was a whole year's salary? but the prize money isnt a whole years salary. And in fact the fans worship the ones with really high sportsmanship, thus these guys make more money from commercials and stuff. If you come with a financial argument, you have to see that things like conceding the game out of manner when it was clearly over are the things that form ur image as an Idol for the fans. The more fans, the more money u can earn. i don't think you understand what i'm saying, if progaming was for millions of dollars in salary, an OSL win matters much more than fan perception, as a team will pay for success imo and i talked to mani about this (and we disagree) the best solution is to replay the game from the moment of disconnect (where bisu would 99.99% lose). but since that's not available, they can't award the game to july because there was still a possibility, however small, of him building a gate somewhere in the corner of his base and killing the hydras and coming back. it's like 0.0001% but i think they have to do it.
There was an experimental tool at some point in time that allowed to save games from replays. It would be useful in those cases. For today, it would make for a pretty hilarious gg 5 seconds after the game restart though.
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Hungary11305 Posts
Would be fun if Yarnc changed his name, to the name of another dominant zerg, like "Jaedong[arnc]" (short: Jarnc)
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Braavos36390 Posts
On January 23 2008 21:07 azndsh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2008 20:57 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 23 2008 20:56 azndsh wrote:On January 23 2008 20:48 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 23 2008 20:46 diehilde wrote:On January 23 2008 20:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 23 2008 20:43 diehilde wrote:
if bisu is ANY kind of a fair sportsman he will concede the game i disagree, if he is any type of sportsman he'll instantly take the regame professional sports is a business and people make a living on it, you don't give away opportunities for victory and money for "honor" if the referees make a call in your favor, you take the regame pf I disagree and Im 100% certain that some of the respected old school progamers who still take manners seriously WOULD have conceded that game. maybe back in 2001, but not now if the refs make a bad call in soccer or basketball or whatever do the players who benefited from it say "well you guys are right, here take the game" ?? no, because sometimes you are on the bad end, sometimes you are on the good end, it's the nature of random chance. if you are lucky, seize it. This is exactly why I respect progamers far more than athletes in any other sport. Good sportsmanship is a requirement for progaming. In every other sport, it's just a foul, and you'll get a fine/suspension if you do something really outrageous. There's no steroid usage, dog fighting, or throwing punches. OGN should allow for a regame, and Bisu should concede. this is mostly because it's not a mainstream sport, if millions of dollars were on the line, your "honor" goes right out the window sure it's easy to concede when the culture and community is still small and close knit and your entire life isn't banking on one game osl finals, yellow's last chance at an OSL title, 5th game final set this happens, you think he'd not take the option at a regame? what if the prize money was a whole year's salary? I can't say for sure given your extremely stretched and hypothetical situation, but I'd expect him to concede the match if he was seconds away from typing "gg". Progamers are regarded as pop idols and quite differently from athletes in other sports. You do not hear girly screams of delight erupt when someone makes a particularly beautiful jump shot. They act by and are held to a much higher standard of honor and sportsmanship, even if its just by their fans.
i'm saying it's changing, if it were 2001 i'm certain nobody takes the regame, but in 2015 when esports is likely more mainstream who knows? it's something OGN will have to look at
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em.. was it just me or beckho could have easily cannon rushed yarnc by building pylon between those 2 gasers? :/
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Yeah obviously yarnc, I was looking at Jaedong's page on TLPD and lapsus-ed 
Dare I say... bisu build ?
yarnc has expoed twice (his nat + 12). 12 was scouted by a probe. He's building a den.
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Hungary11305 Posts
Bisu build is dead. But Backho going for the revive This map should favor reaver / sair.
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On January 23 2008 21:11 iori_LT wrote:
em.. was it just me or beckho could have easily cannon rushed yarnc by building pylon between those 2 gasers? :/
the lings still would be able to surround and kill the pylon
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On January 23 2008 21:13 Emptyness wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2008 21:11 iori_LT wrote:
em.. was it just me or beckho could have easily cannon rushed yarnc by building pylon between those 2 gasers? :/ the lings still would be able to surround and kill the pylon
maybe
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
lair and evo chamber as well, the first corsair meets hydras and scouts to his heart's content.
a 2nd corsair takes care of the over home, a robo is built and a support bay started. A 2nd stargate too !
A shuttle drops a probe at the island expo right next to the main.
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
6 lurkers + lings engage !
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On January 23 2008 21:10 Catyoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2008 21:07 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 23 2008 21:04 diehilde wrote:On January 23 2008 20:57 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 23 2008 20:56 azndsh wrote:On January 23 2008 20:48 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 23 2008 20:46 diehilde wrote:On January 23 2008 20:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 23 2008 20:43 diehilde wrote:
if bisu is ANY kind of a fair sportsman he will concede the game i disagree, if he is any type of sportsman he'll instantly take the regame professional sports is a business and people make a living on it, you don't give away opportunities for victory and money for "honor" if the referees make a call in your favor, you take the regame pf I disagree and Im 100% certain that some of the respected old school progamers who still take manners seriously WOULD have conceded that game. maybe back in 2001, but not now if the refs make a bad call in soccer or basketball or whatever do the players who benefited from it say "well you guys are right, here take the game" ?? no, because sometimes you are on the bad end, sometimes you are on the good end, it's the nature of random chance. if you are lucky, seize it. This is exactly why I respect progamers far more than athletes in any other sport. Good sportsmanship is a requirement for progaming. In every other sport, it's just a foul, and you'll get a fine/suspension if you do something really outrageous. There's no steroid usage, dog fighting, or throwing punches. OGN should allow for a regame, and Bisu should concede. this is mostly because it's not a mainstream sport, if millions of dollars were on the line, your "honor" goes right out the window sure it's easy to concede when the culture and community is still small and close knit and your entire life isn't banking on one game osl finals, yellow's last chance at an OSL title, 5th game final set this happens, you think he'd not take the option at a regame? what if the prize money was a whole year's salary? but the prize money isnt a whole years salary. And in fact the fans worship the ones with really high sportsmanship, thus these guys make more money from commercials and stuff. If you come with a financial argument, you have to see that things like conceding the game out of manner when it was clearly over are the things that form ur image as an Idol for the fans. The more fans, the more money u can earn. i don't think you understand what i'm saying, if progaming was for millions of dollars in salary, an OSL win matters much more than fan perception, as a team will pay for success imo and i talked to mani about this (and we disagree) the best solution is to replay the game from the moment of disconnect (where bisu would 99.99% lose). but since that's not available, they can't award the game to july because there was still a possibility, however small, of him building a gate somewhere in the corner of his base and killing the hydras and coming back. it's like 0.0001% but i think they have to do it. There was an experimental tool at some point in time that allowed to save games from replays. It would be useful in those cases. For today, it would make for a pretty hilarious gg 5 seconds after the game restart though.
I think the rule for every major tournament is that if a player has undeniable advantage then the game should ruled in that players favor.
July had that strategy specially prepared for the match, so to have him regame would be giving Bisu a very very large, unfair advantage, therefore I think giving July the win and not have them re-game would be the best decision.
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
the ground troops + 5 cannons die !
a reaver saves the day maybe ?
at the same time a bunch of corsairs killed ALL his overlords at home
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Lol, lots of lurcks, I think BackHo does not have obs.
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
The reaver is not dead yet thanks to the shuttle.
The nat is completetly dead though and lings start to venture in the main
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