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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 11:57:43
January 23 2008 11:56 GMT
#481
On January 23 2008 20:48 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2008 20:46 diehilde wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:43 diehilde wrote:
if bisu is ANY kind of a fair sportsman he will concede the game

i disagree, if he is any type of sportsman he'll instantly take the regame

professional sports is a business and people make a living on it, you don't give away opportunities for victory and money for "honor"

if the referees make a call in your favor, you take the regame

pf I disagree and Im 100% certain that some of the respected old school progamers who still take manners seriously WOULD have conceded that game.

maybe back in 2001, but not now

if the refs make a bad call in soccer or basketball or whatever do the players who benefited from it say "well you guys are right, here take the game" ??

no, because sometimes you are on the bad end, sometimes you are on the good end, it's the nature of random chance. if you are lucky, seize it.


This is exactly why I respect progamers far more than athletes in any other sport. Good sportsmanship is a requirement for progaming. In every other sport, it's just a foul, and you'll get a fine/suspension if you do something really outrageous.

There's no steroid usage, dog fighting, or throwing punches. If OGN allowed a regame, then Bisu should concede.
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
January 23 2008 11:56 GMT
#482
Oh, I see, no rematch. Well, Bisu lost, that's bad, but he accept that as a man and that speaks a lot. GG .
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
January 23 2008 11:56 GMT
#483
On January 23 2008 20:55 GeLaar wrote:
again, they busted savior's balls for taking off the headphones. appearently, then it _didn't_ matter that the game was over. now suddenly it does.

This was due to a technical problem though.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
January 23 2008 11:57 GMT
#484
Officials ruled July gets the win because Bisu's DT didn't make it out of the gateway and his main would have been destroyed.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
January 23 2008 11:57 GMT
#485
Still a bit confused about what happened there.. They aren't playing again, next match up annouced. I would assume that July won... but i'm not entirely sure. Perhaps a decision is pending? July looked pretty mad.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
January 23 2008 11:57 GMT
#486
Yeah
That was kinda gay, well atleast no re happened and july won the game, pimp counter by July, perfect timing
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 23 2008 11:57 GMT
#487
On January 23 2008 20:56 diehilde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2008 20:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:52 diehilde wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:48 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:46 diehilde wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:43 diehilde wrote:
if bisu is ANY kind of a fair sportsman he will concede the game

i disagree, if he is any type of sportsman he'll instantly take the regame

professional sports is a business and people make a living on it, you don't give away opportunities for victory and money for "honor"

if the referees make a call in your favor, you take the regame

pf I disagree and Im 100% certain that some of the respected old school progamers who still take manners seriously WOULD have conceded that game.

maybe back in 2001, but not now

if the refs make a bad call in soccer or basketball or whatever do the players who benefited from it say "well you guys are right, here take the game" ??

no, because sometimes you are on the bad end, sometimes you are on the good end, it's the nature of random chance. if you are lucky, seize it.

this is completely different from a bad call in a soccer or basketball game... this is similar to the flashlights of a soccer stadium going out in the last seconds of a game in overtime which one team leads 3-0. U think the game would be completely replayed in that case? I think not.


why would a game with a score of 3-0 go to overtime

U obviously dont know much about soccer ^^ It could easily be 0-0 after 90 minutes and 0-3 after 120. Unlikely, but possible. I used the wrong word though i guess, what I really meant was extra time, i e the 1-5 minutes after the regular 90 minutes are over.


oh

overtime in all the sports i watch is like next point wins because its a tie

i dont watch soccer though yeah haha
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 11:59:30
January 23 2008 11:57 GMT
#488
On January 23 2008 20:56 azndsh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2008 20:48 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:46 diehilde wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:43 diehilde wrote:
if bisu is ANY kind of a fair sportsman he will concede the game

i disagree, if he is any type of sportsman he'll instantly take the regame

professional sports is a business and people make a living on it, you don't give away opportunities for victory and money for "honor"

if the referees make a call in your favor, you take the regame

pf I disagree and Im 100% certain that some of the respected old school progamers who still take manners seriously WOULD have conceded that game.

maybe back in 2001, but not now

if the refs make a bad call in soccer or basketball or whatever do the players who benefited from it say "well you guys are right, here take the game" ??

no, because sometimes you are on the bad end, sometimes you are on the good end, it's the nature of random chance. if you are lucky, seize it.


This is exactly why I respect progamers far more than athletes in any other sport. Good sportsmanship is a requirement for progaming. In every other sport, it's just a foul, and you'll get a fine/suspension if you do something really outrageous.

There's no steroid usage, dog fighting, or throwing punches. OGN should allow for a regame, and Bisu should concede.

this is mostly because it's not a mainstream sport, if millions of dollars were on the line, your "honor" goes right out the window

sure it's easy to concede when the culture and community is still small and close knit and your entire life isn't banking on one game

osl finals, yellow's last chance at an OSL title, 5th game final set this happens, you think he'd not take the option at a regame? what if the prize money was a whole year's salary?
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
January 23 2008 11:58 GMT
#489
THANK YOU OGN
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
January 23 2008 11:58 GMT
#490
On January 23 2008 20:56 Hittegods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2008 20:55 GeLaar wrote:
again, they busted savior's balls for taking off the headphones. appearently, then it _didn't_ matter that the game was over. now suddenly it does.

This was due to a technical problem though.


all the more a reason why a decision should be automatically made against bisu.
Brood War is alive and well.
lmaonnaise
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada153 Posts
January 23 2008 11:58 GMT
#491
Well Kespa referees get to decide whether or not there will be a rematch in case of a disconnect, and if there's a pretty close to 0% chance one of the players will come back, they just give that player a loss and there's no re-game. There is no rule that says disconnect = auto-regame.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11304 Posts
January 23 2008 11:58 GMT
#492
This looked like slightly modded Savior build, go for lingspeed to prevent probe scouting, hit when the first corsair comes out and slightly before the first DTs are ready. His fast pool also delayed corsairs and DTs.
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sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
January 23 2008 11:59 GMT
#493
gj july !
aeronexus
Profile Joined June 2007
United States392 Posts
January 23 2008 11:59 GMT
#494
well, so much for the big game of the night... pretty crappy ending to it anyway
10 points!
diehilde1
Profile Joined September 2006
Germany522 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 11:59:30
January 23 2008 11:59 GMT
#495
On January 23 2008 20:56 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2008 20:54 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:50 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:46 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:45 Nintu wrote:
The OSL would lose all it's credibility if this was a re-play.

again, i think opposite. i think OSL is FORCED to have a regame


Seriously man, what you talking about.. the game was over. Please...

anyone here think it wasnt over, please say so.
ANYONE...

i'm not arguing that the game wasn't over, obviously it was over

but rules-wise, it should be instant-regame on disconnect


If there was an official rule book you could reference... MAYBE. However OGN does this on a case by case basis, and you cannot presume to know their rules.

The essence of fair play was maintained, and that is the important thing.

PS fuck bisu and his crying about it.

mani ftw!
good referees make their calls on a case by case basis and not on some stupid set in stone rule. i guess anyone with common sense would have made the same decision if that replay would have been presented to him with the question if its a regame or not.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
January 23 2008 11:59 GMT
#496
I don't understand why July was pissed. They gave him the win, and I don't think Bisu was complaining either, cuz he knew the game was over.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 23 2008 11:59 GMT
#497
Bisu had litterally nothing to kill the hydralisks with.

Did july get the win? he didnt sign the book like the others...

I cant believe this is actually a problem
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
January 23 2008 11:59 GMT
#498
Regame or no, that was a disappointing show. Bisu doesn't have any sucess with Blue Storm, it seems.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
January 23 2008 12:00 GMT
#499
On January 23 2008 20:58 GeLaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2008 20:56 Hittegods wrote:
On January 23 2008 20:55 GeLaar wrote:
again, they busted savior's balls for taking off the headphones. appearently, then it _didn't_ matter that the game was over. now suddenly it does.

This was due to a technical problem though.


all the more a reason why a decision should be automatically made against bisu.

You mean because it's his responsibility to make sure the computers work and are set up correctly? Removing your headphones and your computer crashing aren't really the same thing.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
January 23 2008 12:00 GMT
#500
On January 23 2008 20:53 TheTyranid wrote:
Fucking 4 pool that bitch.

Regame, are you f*cking kidding me? That game was OVER.

Bisu LOST

Ok nvm.
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