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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
January 16 2008 11:52 GMT
#261
Congratulations on being a CHEAP CARRIER ABUSE BASTARD, BISU


gawd... They should at least move slower or have less range, like BCs
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-16 11:55:29
January 16 2008 11:52 GMT
#262
That was a close game. Sure imba map and all, but nice job by Bisu for his clutch play and good attempt by Xellos for his push.

Seriously, no point in whining about carrier though when 80% of PvT's nowadays are 2 base carrier.
Adamthegreat
Profile Joined February 2003
Sweden1179 Posts
January 16 2008 11:52 GMT
#263
That map is gay when it comes to 2 base carrier-builds. I've seen 4 pvt and in everyone of them the toss goes 2 base carriers and just rolls over the terran player.

Terrans should go ghost with lockdown right from the beginning, then at least we might see some cute tricks before they GG....
-_-v
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 16 2008 11:54 GMT
#264
On January 16 2008 20:52 Adamthegreat wrote:
That map is gay when it comes to 2 base carrier-builds. I've seen 4 pvt and in everythree of them the toss goes 2 base carriers and just rolls over the terran player.

Terrans should go ghost with lockdown right from the beginning, then at least we might see some cute tricks before they GG....


fix'ed :D
but seriously though it was unlucky of xellos to play with bisu on katrina, cant blame him on abusing such a good opportunity to give himself momentum
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
January 16 2008 11:54 GMT
#265
Xellos didn't give Bisu as much trouble with the drops as Upmagic. Was a little disappointing, certainly didn't help make the game exciting. Still, hopefully they'll both manage to escape the group nevertheless.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
phase
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States399 Posts
January 16 2008 11:54 GMT
#266
Karina is SUCH a gay map for TvP. seriously the carriers are so gay. man. sad day for CJ.

Xellos didn't even play poorly.
Interested in seeing the next match, although i feel it'll be horribly one-sided
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4642 Posts
January 16 2008 11:54 GMT
#267
On January 16 2008 20:52 Sunyveil wrote:
Congratulations on being a CHEAP CARRIER ABUSE BASTARD, BISU


gawd... They should at least move slower or have less range, like BCs

Yes, TvP is clearly an impossible mu. Do you want some cheese and crackers with that whine?
This neo violence, pure self defiance
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 16 2008 11:55 GMT
#268
On January 16 2008 20:52 teamsolid wrote:
That was a close game. Sure imba map and all, but nice job by Bisu for his clutch play and good attempt by Xellos for his push.


Actually for it to be "close" Xellos would have needed to somehow keep his expo advantage alive for 5 minutes - not happening on Katrina.

What Terran don't you see dbl expo on this map mid game and hope to win? (if they even live that long)
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
January 16 2008 11:56 GMT
#269
don't know why everyone is complaining. there were more tanks heading towards bisu's base than he had goons and the carriers weren't ready yet. that really was a close game; bisu even sacrificed a carrier and his initial goon army to keep the number of gols as low as possible.
Brood War is alive and well.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-16 12:01:07
January 16 2008 11:57 GMT
#270
Well the whole game was hanging on that push. If Xellos had made about 3-4 more goliaths instead of 2 tanks for his first push, he would've won that game with his extra expo and all. It really was a close game if you think about it.

The first major battle came out with 3 carriers left ONLY (and only 2 with interceptors). If Bisu had not countered Xellos at that moment, it would've been over as well. Good decision making by Bisu for once.

Seriously... no need to whine when 2 Base carrier builds are so common nowadays.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-16 12:00:22
January 16 2008 11:57 GMT
#271
Xellos was in a good position. But then he just fails to defend to carriers.

Carriers + Bisu + Katrina = insta win?

Those carriers = insta win comments I find so annoying. But I can't resist this one because that's how it seemed to me.

Before carriers supply was equal, which shouldn't be good for P. He also stopped Bisu from expanding when it was ground vs ground. And didn't he see the carriers coming?

If Bisu hadn't barely stopped the tank push with his first few carriers Xellos would have been in a very dominant position, imo.

(At least on a normal map...)
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
January 16 2008 11:58 GMT
#272
Bisu 541 peak apm that game
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 16 2008 11:58 GMT
#273
Why does the commentators always pronounce yellow's name as Pang Myung Soo rather than Par"k" Myung Soo ? I can clearly hear the k sound in Park Sung Jun but for the twins its always the "ng" sound ?
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
January 16 2008 11:58 GMT
#274
On January 16 2008 20:54 Hittegods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2008 20:52 Sunyveil wrote:
Congratulations on being a CHEAP CARRIER ABUSE BASTARD, BISU


gawd... They should at least move slower or have less range, like BCs

Yes, TvP is clearly an impossible mu. Do you want some cheese and crackers with that whine?



I like how everybody saying that I complain too much is a protoss player.

Of course you like the way it is. it's imba'd in your favor.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
suprabum3
Profile Joined December 2007
United States373 Posts
January 16 2008 11:59 GMT
#275
quick question, when they do match recaps why are there 3 different APM numbers?
There are two types of tragedies in life. One is not getting what you want, the other is getting it..
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 16 2008 11:59 GMT
#276
I don't think it was THAT close. It was well played by both players, even though Katrina is hard TvP.

Xellos did well, so did Bisu. It just would have taken a little extra luck for Xellos to win that.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 16 2008 11:59 GMT
#277
On January 16 2008 20:52 Sunyveil wrote:
Congratulations on being a CHEAP CARRIER ABUSE BASTARD, BISU


gawd... They should at least move slower or have less range, like BCs


rofl. Then Carriers would be worthless vs Terran.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-16 12:01:13
January 16 2008 11:59 GMT
#278
wow crazy apm
n yeah i'm just gonna blame it on cross-positions.. i think cross-positions tvp = instant t lose on katrina

woohoo yarnc!
rape this guy kekek
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 16 2008 12:00 GMT
#279
CUTEANGEL ROFL
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
January 16 2008 12:01 GMT
#280
Xellos made too many expos and not enough factories. And forgot to make charon boosters in time. And wasted his initial golies in an embarassing way. And spent 200 gas on 2 wraiths that did nothing. And wasted several vults killing one probe.

Carriers are not really the imbalance factor on Katrina, most convincing wins I've seen were with arbiters, so this game is made purely of Xellos' mistakes, I fail to see what people are whining about. Rethink how it could've gone hadn't Xellos made all those mistakes and see that it was not that "gay". Besides, Bisu microed his carriers greatly. This game, he was just > Xellos.
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