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game.no
Profile Joined July 2005
Norway445 Posts
December 19 2007 12:55 GMT
#361
On December 19 2007 21:53 KovacsFlorian wrote:
Bisu is a good SC pro-gamer. Not dominant. So stop making him look like a God of SC.
Flame Shield UP.


Who the hell are you quoting?
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
December 19 2007 12:57 GMT
#362
Seriously, Up should just join another team. I feel like he's wasting his tallent in eStro. He needs better practice partners. Imagine him in CJ. OMG <3
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-19 12:59:30
December 19 2007 12:57 GMT
#363
On December 19 2007 21:53 KovacsFlorian wrote:
Bisu is a good SC pro-gamer. Not dominant. So stop making him look like a God of SC.
Flame Shield UP.

No one in this entire thread called him godly, but a ton of people (Bisu haters AKA Savior fanboys) are trying to make him look like shit, even though he played well and won the Bo5.
Silverflame
Profile Joined August 2006
United States428 Posts
December 19 2007 12:59 GMT
#364
If Up were to leave eStro then you honestly might as well just dissolve the team =/
Scooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-19 13:00:37
December 19 2007 12:59 GMT
#365
On December 19 2007 21:53 KovacsFlorian wrote:
Bisu is a good SC pro-gamer. Not dominant. So stop making him look like a God of SC.
Flame Shield UP.


Agreed. It actually looked like Bisu had a lot of trouble beating Up, when a lot of people made it seem like he was going to 3-0 him or beat him by putting manner gateways behind his mineral line or something (Pokju RIP), not to say Up's TvP is relatively bad, not by a longshot!
My unblocks gets yo curleh mustache wet のωの
game.no
Profile Joined July 2005
Norway445 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-19 13:05:08
December 19 2007 13:03 GMT
#366
nobody is saying bisu is a god.

he's actually below average player. the only place where he's remotely decent is pvz and that won't last very long. his pvp sucks, his pvt sucks. if you disagree you're a idiot.

Who you SHOULD be watching is stork. much better player, wcg winner (isn't that enough). his only weakness is pvz and when he uses bisu build he's just as unstoppable. you saw it vs julyzerg and he never really got a chance to show off his pvz after that (1 match where he got ling rushed that's it.)
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
December 19 2007 13:03 GMT
#367
On December 19 2007 21:59 Silverflame wrote:
If Up were to leave eStro then you honestly might as well just dissolve the team =/


That's what I would probably do. Send all the SC players to different teams and let eSTRO be just the Counter-Strike team. Then they will be able to improve and probably we'll see a more ballanced Proleague.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-19 13:04:25
December 19 2007 13:04 GMT
#368
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Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
.Ix
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines266 Posts
December 19 2007 13:06 GMT
#369
On December 19 2007 22:03 game.no wrote:
nobody is saying bisu is a god.

he's actually below average player. the only place where he's remotely decent is pvz and that won't last very long. his pvp sucks, his pvt sucks. if you disagree you're a idiot.




.............. O_o
KovacsFlorian
Profile Joined January 2006
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-19 13:12:02
December 19 2007 13:08 GMT
#370
On December 19 2007 22:03 game.no wrote:
nobody is saying bisu is a god.

he's actually below average player. the only place where he's remotely decent is pvz and that won't last very long. his pvp sucks, his pvt sucks. if you disagree you're a idiot.


I agree.
This means that you also agree Bisu is not, atm, the dominant player in SC.
You just provided (a part of) the answer to the "Who is Bonjwa now?" question (and topic title)
You talking to me? You talking to me? You talking to me? Then who the hell else are you talking to? You talking to me? Well, I am the only one here. Who do the fuck do you think you are talking to? Oh, yeah? Ok.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
December 19 2007 13:08 GMT
#371
I find the timing that Bisu has apparently had a bad flu for a while now coinciding with people using this Bo5 as evidence Bisu is mediocre / always been overrated hilarious. If only because the first point explains so much about the results that bring the second argument into being.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
December 19 2007 13:09 GMT
#372
On December 19 2007 21:57 KizZBG wrote:
Seriously, Up should just join another team. I feel like he's wasting his tallent in eStro. He needs better practice partners. Imagine him in CJ. OMG <3


Lecaf's probably a better fit. I wouldn't mind SKT1 either.

eStro needs to SHAPE UP, at least have the common sense to exclude your star player from the proleague schedule the same day he has OSL matches. Which is more important? :r
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
December 19 2007 13:09 GMT
#373
Liquidbets for Survivor groups tomorrow?
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4861 Posts
December 19 2007 13:09 GMT
#374
On December 19 2007 22:03 game.no wrote:
nobody is saying bisu is a god.

he's actually below average player. the only place where he's remotely decent is pvz and that won't last very long. his pvp sucks, his pvt sucks. if you disagree you're a idiot.

Who you SHOULD be watching is stork. much better player, wcg winner (isn't that enough). his only weakness is pvz and when he uses bisu build he's just as unstoppable. you saw it vs julyzerg and he never really got a chance to show off his pvz after that (1 match where he got ling rushed that's it.)


Hey, where were you, we really missed you!

I'm sorry, but I still have to disagree with you - because you're an idiot

Oh, and just for the sake of it:

bisu build
Complete the cycle!
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
December 19 2007 13:10 GMT
#375
On December 19 2007 22:03 game.no wrote:
nobody is saying bisu is a god.

he's actually below average player. the only place where he's remotely decent is pvz and that won't last very long. his pvp sucks, his pvt sucks. if you disagree you're a idiot.

Who you SHOULD be watching is stork. much better player, wcg winner (isn't that enough). his only weakness is pvz and when he uses bisu build he's just as unstoppable. you saw it vs julyzerg and he never really got a chance to show off his pvz after that (1 match where he got ling rushed that's it.)

Winner...of...WCG2007...pride of Korea...... And yes, quite obviously Bisu is only "remotely decent" at PvZ. I can name ten other protosses that are better.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4861 Posts
December 19 2007 13:11 GMT
#376
You shouldn't waste your time arguing with game.no, check out the last thread where people tried just make fun of him, it's a lot more enjoyable
Complete the cycle!
nujabes
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-19 13:18:33
December 19 2007 13:18 GMT
#377
On December 19 2007 22:03 game.no wrote:
nobody is saying bisu is a god.

he's actually below average player. the only place where he's remotely decent is pvz and that won't last very long. his pvp sucks, his pvt sucks. if you disagree you're a idiot.

Who you SHOULD be watching is stork. much better player, wcg winner (isn't that enough). his only weakness is pvz and when he uses bisu build he's just as unstoppable. you saw it vs julyzerg and he never really got a chance to show off his pvz after that (1 match where he got ling rushed that's it.)


Bisu's pvz isn't remotely decent... it's beyond any other protoss player's capabilities at the moment. His pvt and pvp isn't shit either. You exaggerate way too much for your post to have any credit although I do admit stork seems to be the current better protoss player.
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-20 01:56:28
December 19 2007 13:18 GMT
#378
On December 19 2007 21:50 HaXxorIzed wrote:
The flu problem explains a great deal, tbh. Got a source?

sorry i dont have the source.... but i heard it from gall.dcinside , fifo , fomos.
one of MBC HERO's coach/manager mentioned that Bisu was suffering from bad Flu before the Stork vs Bisu match.
i believe this because Bisu seems to sniff his nose alot(match vs UpMagic).

edit: this does not mean that Stork was lucky to win over Bisu... Stork beat Bisu bcuz he was better than Bisu that day. Bisu should learn how to take care of himself before big/important match.. after all, he is a Pro-Gamer...
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-19 13:24:06
December 19 2007 13:23 GMT
#379
Stork's PvP was undoubtedly better on the day. That does however explain why Bisu looked so disappointed with his play in the aftermath, however. Little details like this really go a long way into making the league more human, imho.

Osl finals now. Time to cheer for Stork, and another Protoss trophy.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
December 19 2007 13:24 GMT
#380
yay! Kim taek Yong fighting
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