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Will Aiur heed the ancient call? Midst falling leaves the psi-blades glare Here comes the Legend of the Fall | ||
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Glioburd
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SHARP SHARP | ||
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KSL2 repeat or not? | ||
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prosatan
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On October 22 2024 17:36 Sorusaba wrote: A stir is heavy in the air... Will Aiur heed the ancient call? Midst falling leaves the psi-blades glare Here comes the Legend of the Fall Very nice !  | ||
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Vasoline73
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Gorsameth
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But most of all lets have better games then yesterday >< | ||
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prosatan
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 Please LR a bit... thanks!! | ||
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TMNT
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But the truth is you always need some BO luck at this level. If it works you're a genius, mastermind etc. If it doesn't you looks like a clown. | ||
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Sorusaba
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On October 22 2024 18:25 Peeano wrote: Legend of the Fall or Legend of the Fail? KSL2 repeat or not? Looking like the latter so far... | ||
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Kaal
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BLinD-RawR
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some of you will know who I'm talking about. | ||
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PVJ
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Build-order blowouts are a thing but now they have so many games to throw -- it's 2-1 and they both haven't really had to play a game. | ||
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On October 22 2024 20:35 Kaal wrote: that vulture is gonna be problematic for rain oof probes > vulture lol | ||
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PVJ
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It was maybe too late but it was a beautiful sight! The high-ground vulture and tank harassment was great though | ||
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RowdierBob
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Did Rain prepare for this series? Not to take anything away from Sharp but Rain looks like he hasn’t played a game since the ro8. | ||
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HOLYBATS
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Zergxhx
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the final will be 4:0 or 4:1 | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On October 22 2024 20:54 RowdierBob wrote: Domination. Did Rain prepare for this series? Not to take anything away from Sharp but Rain looks like he hasn’t played a game since the ro8. he took a couple whole days for off stream private training with terrans. dont know who he practiced with but a bunch of terrans werent streaming on those days so any of royal rush mind mong light flash barracks jyj speed could have been his training partners. I know from some other pros they do 8 game blocks and then usually switch to another player. he also played a whole lot of ladder to get his mechanics sharpened. I have no idea what they do beside that. | ||
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TMNT
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On October 22 2024 20:54 RowdierBob wrote: Domination. Did Rain prepare for this series? Not to take anything away from Sharp but Rain looks like he hasn’t played a game since the ro8. Did you not see game 1 and 2? He prepared those builds. They just didn't work. But had they worked we would have had stories like "Flash gave him those builds". Hindsight is a wonderful thing. | ||
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RowdierBob
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On October 22 2024 21:05 TMNT wrote: Did you not see game 1 and 2? He prepared those builds. They just didn't work. But had they worked we would have had stories like "Flash gave him those builds". Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Haha nah I can in at games 4 and 5. Sharp looked a lot better prepared. | ||
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Peeano
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Highgamer
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prosatan
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On October 22 2024 20:54 HOLYBATS wrote: Congrats Sharp! LB 2/2. Me too HOLYBATS !!!  | ||
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TMNT
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On October 22 2024 22:21 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: you know Rain could've done something similar. Drop a high templar on a highground on Monty and storm SCVs from there. He couldn't. Terran hadn't expanded to those bases with a cliff behind until very late in the game. The end game for Protoss on Monty Hall is to go Carriers and base trade. He should have switched to Carriers earlier and use all those HTs to stall pushes. | ||
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redknights
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https://imgur.com/a/fMEJpsM | ||
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Simplistik
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Not got much hope for the final. | ||
BisuDagger
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M3t4PhYzX
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extremely underwhelming season so far overall | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
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On October 22 2024 20:55 Zergxhx wrote: Well, I think this is the worst ASL after ASL13, the game didn't impress me at all, except for the feat of Motive the final will be 4:0 or 4:1 I agree, this season gotta be one of the worst we've ever had to date. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
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WGT-Baal
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On October 23 2024 00:30 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Hopefully at least the Grand Final will deliver some bangers. Sharp has some chances.. but I think Soulkey gonna ultimately prevail, 4-2 and we're going to see an oh-so-elusive rare three-peat. amen to that, so far it s been subpar. This makes me feel extra bad for Motive since his blunder is the highlight of the season | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On October 23 2024 00:25 M3t4PhYzX wrote: gotta be one of the worst sets of semi-final games I've ever seen in Brood War.. snoozefest - both of them. extremely underwhelming season so far overall I really liked the matches. lot of small details, reads, attempts at interpreting situations and seeing them puzzle together solutions in the moment. was some great chess being played. Most of the SSL has been good. But none of the matches lived up to Speed's TvP games. those were most hype. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
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On October 23 2024 01:33 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: I really liked the matches. lot of small details, reads, attempts at interpreting situations and seeing them puzzle together solutions in the moment. was some great chess being played. Most of the SSL has been good. But none of the matches lived up to Speed's TvP games. those were most hype. There were some good games here and there, yes. But not as many as in other seasons. And the playoffs especially felt quite underwhelming. | ||
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townhouse
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I guess it's just bad map selection? feels like every season has Terran maps tho. eloboard has it slightly T > P. at least we should get a good finals. Sharp has a chance due to Tesagi, and certainly has been looking very sharp lately. | ||
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HOLYBATS
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Destroyer
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Lazyer
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lmao @ eonzerg mentioning once again, "nyoken remember when you tried to tell me drones were better than probes". we saw probes obliterate the 2rax and then also the vulture on monty hall. someone should clip the original and today's comments back to back | ||
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bochs
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redknights
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No matter what you think about his gameplay, Sharp's character as a good human being is unquestioned by the pros, and he is well-known as one of the nicest people in the scene (and very nice to foreigners as well) That being said, I think it's near impossible he takes more than 1 game against Soulkey, but I will definitely rooting for a miracle ending | ||
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ShowTheLights
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Biff The Understudy
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Galacsia
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On October 23 2024 09:02 redknights wrote: I'm very glad Sharp has finally found success in the midst of some unfortunate developments in his personal life - he was diagnosed with thyroid cancer and is scheduled for surgery after the season ends, and then concurrently his wife had some issues with her pregnancy No matter what you think about his gameplay, Sharp's character as a good human being is unquestioned by the pros, and he is well-known as one of the nicest people in the scene (and very nice to foreigners as well) That being said, I think it's near impossible he takes more than 1 game against Soulkey, but I will definitely rooting for a miracle ending That sucks. Now I'm only rooting for him harder than before. It also has to be difficult to practice under such circumstances | ||
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mtcn77
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On October 23 2024 18:24 reincremate wrote: Hard to not like Sharp! Go old school! Sharp, (Snow), (Action)! | ||
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Peeano
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On October 24 2024 19:31 NoS-Craig wrote: It was fun being numbere 1 on the LB before this season started. Fuck me sideways now. GG Sharp. Lmao. There are really only a few dudes who get a high ranking consecutively. (Even as a hater) I'm honestly surprised at how many votes Rain got on LB. There must be quite some silent Rain fanboys on TL. Because if we check the SSL tier ranking thread by RJB it tells a different story. Rain got nice results this season, but his games weren't impressive imho. Ro24 2-1 advance Ro16 2-0 advance (almost as many votes as Mini!) Ro8 4-0 advance (unreal dif after just a 2-0) Ro4 1-4 exit (Similar dif, so I assume people who voted for Rain, voted again after the 4-0) | ||
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Artas1984
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From what i've seen Rain did not take this SSL seriously. When he said things like ''i am not sure what is my skill level now is'' it seemed like he was not taking this season seriously after all, despite talking about practicing SC and quitting LoL. | ||
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redknights
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On October 25 2024 04:59 Artas1984 wrote: What a shit show of a season this has been so far - SSL. I can't even force myself to watch the last game. I do respect Rain for being so bald and taking huge risks in the tournament with the builds - this is a trait of a REAL champion, having confidence to make decisions like that, but obviously it can not work for the majority of time. From what i've seen Rain did not take this SSL seriously. When he said things like ''i am not sure what is my skill level now is'' it seemed like he was not taking this season seriously after all, despite talking about practicing SC and quitting LoL. Rain was indeed taking this season seriously From 910's behind-the-scenes video, Rain was genuinely bummed out at losing Rain said he prepared a ton for the match, skipping several days of streaming to practice (in reality he actually stopped streaming a day earlier than Sharp to practice offline) Rain explained that he probably overthought and overcooked his strategies during prep which wound up working against him. On reflection he thought he should have just done something more normal on Minstrel but he overthought it Another example of overcooking is Rain saying in Game 4 (Radeon) he would have normally sent his dragoon up the map and scouted Sharp's ridiculous marine cheese early, but he reasoned that because he did DTs twice already, he would play mind games with Sharp and not send the dragoon. Later Sharp comes into the video and says he only sent the marines because he saw the dragoon didn't come, and he correctly predicted that Rain was trying to play mind games due to his earlier DT builds. After hearing that, Rain and Soulkey were impressed and said that was a deserved loss (Rain originally had thought the loss was BS luck) When pressed by 910 about next participating season, Rain didn't commit to playing (begins around 16:36 mark) | ||
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gravity
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Another example of overcooking is Rain saying in Game 4 (Radeon) he would have normally sent his dragoon up the map and scouted Sharp's ridiculous marine cheese early, but he reasoned that because he did DTs twice already, he would play mind games with Sharp and not send the dragoon. Later Sharp comes into the video and says he only sent the marines because he saw the dragoon didn't come, and he correctly predicted that Rain was trying to play mind games due to his earlier DT builds. After hearing that, Rain and Soulkey were impressed and said that was a deserved loss (Rain originally had thought the loss was BS luck) Interesting - we don't normally hear about these kind of decisions just by watching. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On October 25 2024 09:18 redknights wrote: Rain was indeed taking this season seriously From 910's behind-the-scenes video, Rain was genuinely bummed out at losing Rain said he prepared a ton for the match, skipping several days of streaming to practice (in reality he actually stopped streaming a day earlier than Sharp to practice offline) Rain explained that he probably overthought and overcooked his strategies during prep which wound up working against him. On reflection he thought he should have just done something more normal on Minstrel but he overthought it Another example of overcooking is Rain saying in Game 4 (Radeon) he would have normally sent his dragoon up the map and scouted Sharp's ridiculous marine cheese early, but he reasoned that because he did DTs twice already, he would play mind games with Sharp and not send the dragoon. Later Sharp comes into the video and says he only sent the marines because he saw the dragoon didn't come, and he correctly predicted that Rain was trying to play mind games due to his earlier DT builds. After hearing that, Rain and Soulkey were impressed and said that was a deserved loss (Rain originally had thought the loss was BS luck) When pressed by 910 about next participating season, Rain didn't commit to playing (begins around 16:36 mark) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsyILPdbsdY&t=996s Rain also played more ladder than the others to get his mechanics sharpened and his timings correct. He has 500+- ladder games this season. Sharp was surprisingly one of the less active players for various reasons. interesting to hear rain went too deep into trying to mind game. implies there is a limit to how hard one can try to mindgame because at some point you will mind game yourself. | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden317 Posts
But as others have said, this is probably the worst season of Starcraft since the return with ASL1. Are the maps bad? I haven't really gotten a good feel for any of the maps played this season, non have consistently produced good games. And Monty Hall sucks, most other crazy maps have been a lot more fun, like 76 was pretty cool. Even Sparkle was a better map with more interesting and fun games. I feel like so many players under-performed and played poorly as well this season. Soulkey is looking like a god damn galaxy brain player this season though and that is cool to see. Sharp is looking really sharp in his play, he seems to be doing almost everything right. Really impressive play from him. So it hasn't been all bad and sub par Starcraft is still pretty damn good! But not really a great season to have has first rebranded tournament! | ||
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Simplistik
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For some reason lots of people have been approaching the games perhaps somewhat more strategically than in previous seasons, trying to get an advantage with surprising builds. And the thing is that this is risky. And a small micro error can end the game. So we've seen a bunch of shorter games. | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden317 Posts
I hope next season is better! | ||
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