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ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
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maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
258 Posts
October 22 2024 05:58 GMT
#2
Hoping for Sharp so we get a ZvT final. Soulkey is unstoppable ZvP
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
October 22 2024 07:05 GMT
#3
Hype!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2121 Posts
October 22 2024 08:34 GMT
#4
Let's have some epic games here.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
297 Posts
October 22 2024 08:36 GMT
#5
A stir is heavy in the air...
Will Aiur heed the ancient call?
Midst falling leaves the psi-blades glare
Here comes the Legend of the Fall
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4248 Posts
October 22 2024 08:49 GMT
#6
Rain FIGHTING!
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
October 22 2024 08:56 GMT
#7
SHARP
SHARP
SHARP
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey777 Posts
October 22 2024 08:57 GMT
#8
I feel that Rain completed his mission.Today is the Sharp's day.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5407 Posts
October 22 2024 09:25 GMT
#9
Legend of the Fall or Legend of the Fail?
KSL2 repeat or not?
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8639 Posts
October 22 2024 10:06 GMT
#10
Lb on sharp and rooting for rain
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8639 Posts
October 22 2024 10:07 GMT
#11
On October 22 2024 17:36 Sorusaba wrote:
A stir is heavy in the air...
Will Aiur heed the ancient call?
Midst falling leaves the psi-blades glare
Here comes the Legend of the Fall


Very nice !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7851 Posts
October 22 2024 10:07 GMT
#12
It would be cool if Rain won... but I think Sharp has this.
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria491 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 10:11:12
October 22 2024 10:08 GMT
#13
Rain with that awesome macro mass shuttle/reaver/ht style is taking it to another level. I hope he brings that game against Sharp today!
music is the best thing in the world
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22239 Posts
October 22 2024 10:09 GMT
#14
Lets go Sharp.

But most of all lets have better games then yesterday ><
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8639 Posts
October 22 2024 10:20 GMT
#15
God damn, I got to leave

Please LR a bit... thanks!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 10:23 GMT
#16
shocked that scv survived lol
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 10:23 GMT
#17
pretty normal 2 player start, gas steal vs rax cc.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:27 GMT
#18
rain why are you proxying on minstrel, just play the map out
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 10:28:14
October 22 2024 10:28 GMT
#19
INSANE defense by sharp against these DTs. The simcity is IMMACULATE and his micro was great as well.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:28 GMT
#20
how many dts are you going to lose man
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:31 GMT
#21
those mines mostly worked against sharp.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 10:32:40
October 22 2024 10:32 GMT
#22
great defense by rain for the first tank push. Sharp's formation was bad and he got greedy.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 10:37 GMT
#23
good stasis by rain saving his ass but idk if he can completely chase off sharp from the south.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 10:38 GMT
#24
Rain's army getting cleaned up even if Sharp has no ablity to micro his vessels at all.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2720 Posts
October 22 2024 10:40 GMT
#25
Zealots are melting to mines.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:40 GMT
#26
Poll: Recommend Rain vs Sharp Game 1?

Yes (9)
 
69%

No (3)
 
23%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rain vs Sharp Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 10:40 GMT
#27
I think Sharp's prep saved his ass this game. He played well for the most part but was kind of sloppy with army control. Rain was behind from the DT proxy and wasn't able to get any breathing room since then so he died to fact flood. Sharp's simcity was perfect for DT defense and he executed it perfectly.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3139 Posts
October 22 2024 10:43 GMT
#28
Rain tried to mix in strategies, you know, as opposed to Snow's bland and predictable style.

But the truth is you always need some BO luck at this level. If it works you're a genius, mastermind etc. If it doesn't you looks like a clown.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7851 Posts
October 22 2024 10:46 GMT
#29
Nice job Sharp. Rain looked good to other than the opener... I think he will take some games
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5407 Posts
October 22 2024 10:47 GMT
#30
DT choice was nice imo. Keep Terran cautious for the whole series.
FBH #1!
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 10:49 GMT
#31
proxy 2 electric boogaloo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:50 GMT
#32
see on this map I understand rain going for it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:51 GMT
#33
you really shouldn't be losing your first goon like that
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:52 GMT
#34
oh and now he knows DTs are coming
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7851 Posts
October 22 2024 10:52 GMT
#35
Uh oh. Rain falling apart?
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 10:53 GMT
#36
classic vultures walking into base into gg.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
October 22 2024 10:53 GMT
#37
chobo of the fall
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:54 GMT
#38
Poll: Recommend Rain vs Sharp Game 2?

No (10)
 
83%

Yes (1)
 
8%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rain vs Sharp Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
297 Posts
October 22 2024 10:54 GMT
#39
On October 22 2024 18:25 Peeano wrote:
Legend of the Fall or Legend of the Fail?
KSL2 repeat or not?


Looking like the latter so far...
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 10:56 GMT
#40
fishing zealot was one of the best sign arts ive seen yet.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3139 Posts
October 22 2024 10:57 GMT
#41
See what I said. BO luck. Rain used all his in the previous round vs Rush, now he has no more.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:57 GMT
#42
on the one hand I'm mad for picking rain after that performance, on the other hand I'm looking forward to that one rain fan's reaction.

some of you will know who I'm talking about.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:58 GMT
#43
yo that superman sharp edit was tight.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 10:59 GMT
#44
PULL THE BOYS
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 11:00 GMT
#45
trading cheese defense wins
karbonara234
Profile Joined October 2024
38 Posts
October 22 2024 11:00 GMT
#46
yes, finally. you can do it Rain.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7851 Posts
October 22 2024 11:01 GMT
#47
Nice confidence booster for Rain
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 11:01 GMT
#48
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to double shield battery
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3139 Posts
October 22 2024 11:01 GMT
#49
Oh no I spoke too soon lol. Rain still has some left.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 11:01 GMT
#50
Poll: Recommend Rain vs Sharp Game 3?

No (10)
 
77%

Yes (3)
 
23%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rain vs Sharp Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5407 Posts
October 22 2024 11:02 GMT
#51
I'm just glad this is not a 4-0 stomp. Good thing Rain didn't fast expand with those close positions.
FBH #1!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3139 Posts
October 22 2024 11:03 GMT
#52
Man this season is terrible. Just cheese after cheese. I blame 910 for selecting the worst map pool ever. No one wants to play properly because why would you when the maps suck for your matchup?
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 22 2024 11:05 GMT
#53
This Ro4 could be a nice example why Bo7 doesn't automatically bring higher quality, more intense games.

Build-order blowouts are a thing but now they have so many games to throw -- it's 2-1 and they both haven't really had to play a game.
The heart's eternal vow
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 11:22 GMT
#54
oof bunker is up and mines are out. rain is eating shit atm.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 11:29 GMT
#55
not looking good for rain. lost all his shuttles and reavers and didn't really do any damage.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2720 Posts
October 22 2024 11:29 GMT
#56
oof Rain
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 11:30 GMT
#57
rain threw his damage shuttle away again lmao
karbonara234
Profile Joined October 2024
38 Posts
October 22 2024 11:30 GMT
#58
wow wow looks like it's a TvZ final
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 11:30 GMT
#59
Poll: Recommend Rain vs Sharp Game 4?

No (6)
 
50%

Yes (3)
 
25%

If you have time (3)
 
25%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rain vs Sharp Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22239 Posts
October 22 2024 11:30 GMT
#60
You know your in trouble when Terran doesn't bother to siege while pushing to your base
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5407 Posts
October 22 2024 11:30 GMT
#61
Domination!
FBH #1!
karbonara234
Profile Joined October 2024
38 Posts
October 22 2024 11:31 GMT
#62
oh man can't look at Rain's face. makes me sad.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 11:35 GMT
#63
nice build trick
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 11:35 GMT
#64
that vulture is gonna be problematic for rain oof
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 11:36 GMT
#65
nvm sharp micro was lazy as af
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5407 Posts
October 22 2024 11:36 GMT
#66
On October 22 2024 20:35 Kaal wrote:
that vulture is gonna be problematic for rain oof

probes > vulture lol
FBH #1!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7851 Posts
October 22 2024 11:37 GMT
#67
WOW Sharp wtf lmao. That was awful losing the vulture
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5407 Posts
October 22 2024 11:37 GMT
#68
That's good actually. We'll get a longer game.
FBH #1!
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 11:46 GMT
#69
GREAT storm/micro overall from Rain on that attack.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 11:47 GMT
#70
tank cliffs are annoying the shit out of rain but his army is way bigger I think he can do a lot of damage here.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2720 Posts
October 22 2024 11:48 GMT
#71
oof indeed
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
October 22 2024 11:52 GMT
#72
great game, great back and forth. Sharp's dropship play wins it out in the end.
karbonara234
Profile Joined October 2024
38 Posts
October 22 2024 11:52 GMT
#73
beautiful storms but ultimately not enough. GG.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2720 Posts
October 22 2024 11:52 GMT
#74
I have absolutely no idea of what's going on with the layout of this map but it seems Sharp has won with prime Fantasy-like Vulture micro.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7851 Posts
October 22 2024 11:52 GMT
#75
Nice job Sharp
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 11:53 GMT
#76
Right score wrong person, writers curse strikes again
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
297 Posts
October 22 2024 11:53 GMT
#77
Sad about the Legend of the Fall hype being slain, but Sharp deserved it with this last game.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
October 22 2024 11:53 GMT
#78
Poll: Recommend Rain vs Sharp Game 5?

Yes (21)
 
91%

No (1)
 
4%

If you have time (1)
 
4%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rain vs Sharp Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 11:55:35
October 22 2024 11:54 GMT
#79
"Dear child let me tuck you in with a blanket of storms, may you rest deep in peace"

It was maybe too late but it was a beautiful sight!

The high-ground vulture and tank harassment was great though
The heart's eternal vow
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13385 Posts
October 22 2024 11:54 GMT
#80
Domination.

Did Rain prepare for this series? Not to take anything away from Sharp but Rain looks like he hasn’t played a game since the ro8.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey777 Posts
October 22 2024 11:54 GMT
#81
Congrats Sharp! LB 2/2.
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China194 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 11:55:51
October 22 2024 11:55 GMT
#82
Well, I think this is the worst ASL after ASL13, the game didn't impress me at all, except for the feat of Motive
the final will be 4:0 or 4:1
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13385 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 11:56:00
October 22 2024 11:55 GMT
#83
Two Protosses in the ro4 and yet it feels we’re as far away from a Protoss champion as we’ve ever been.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5407 Posts
October 22 2024 11:57 GMT
#84
There was some bad weather today, but not a whole lot of Rain.
FBH #1!
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1209 Posts
October 22 2024 11:57 GMT
#85
Rain got played like a fiddle.
JDON MY SOUL!
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1209 Posts
October 22 2024 12:03 GMT
#86
On October 22 2024 20:54 RowdierBob wrote:
Domination.

Did Rain prepare for this series? Not to take anything away from Sharp but Rain looks like he hasn’t played a game since the ro8.

he took a couple whole days for off stream private training with terrans. dont know who he practiced with but a bunch of terrans werent streaming on those days so any of royal rush mind mong light flash barracks jyj speed could have been his training partners. I know from some other pros they do 8 game blocks and then usually switch to another player. he also played a whole lot of ladder to get his mechanics sharpened. I have no idea what they do beside that.
JDON MY SOUL!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 12:06:31
October 22 2024 12:05 GMT
#87
On October 22 2024 20:54 RowdierBob wrote:
Domination.

Did Rain prepare for this series? Not to take anything away from Sharp but Rain looks like he hasn’t played a game since the ro8.

Did you not see game 1 and 2? He prepared those builds. They just didn't work.

But had they worked we would have had stories like "Flash gave him those builds". Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13385 Posts
October 22 2024 12:08 GMT
#88
On October 22 2024 21:05 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2024 20:54 RowdierBob wrote:
Domination.

Did Rain prepare for this series? Not to take anything away from Sharp but Rain looks like he hasn’t played a game since the ro8.

Did you not see game 1 and 2? He prepared those builds. They just didn't work.

But had they worked we would have had stories like "Flash gave him those builds". Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Haha nah I can in at games 4 and 5. Sharp looked a lot better prepared.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5407 Posts
October 22 2024 12:09 GMT
#89
Rainwashed.
FBH #1!
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 13:43:41
October 22 2024 12:42 GMT
#90
Game 5 inspired me:

[image loading]
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1209 Posts
October 22 2024 13:21 GMT
#91
you know Rain could've done something similar. Drop a high templar on a highground on Monty and storm SCVs from there.
JDON MY SOUL!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8639 Posts
October 22 2024 13:26 GMT
#92
On October 22 2024 20:54 HOLYBATS wrote:
Congrats Sharp! LB 2/2.

Me too HOLYBATS !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8639 Posts
October 22 2024 13:27 GMT
#93
Need to see the games tho...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 14:22:43
October 22 2024 14:22 GMT
#94
On October 22 2024 22:21 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
you know Rain could've done something similar. Drop a high templar on a highground on Monty and storm SCVs from there.

He couldn't. Terran hadn't expanded to those bases with a cliff behind until very late in the game. The end game for Protoss on Monty Hall is to go Carriers and base trade. He should have switched to Carriers earlier and use all those HTs to stall pushes.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 14:30:34
October 22 2024 14:28 GMT
#95
Bonus of winning - turn on stream with your university w a lot of hot girls and get tons of donations (124260 balloons roughly12426000 KRW = roughly $10K USD)

https://imgur.com/a/fMEJpsM
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2121 Posts
October 22 2024 14:40 GMT
#96
Wow, another bad series.

Not got much hope for the final.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19333 Posts
October 22 2024 14:46 GMT
#97
I need a sad Protoss thread. I might just spend the finals thread balance whining for the left out race.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4248 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 15:25:58
October 22 2024 15:25 GMT
#98
gotta be one of the worst sets of semi-final games I've ever seen in Brood War.. snoozefest - both of them.

extremely underwhelming season so far overall
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4248 Posts
October 22 2024 15:28 GMT
#99
On October 22 2024 20:55 Zergxhx wrote:
Well, I think this is the worst ASL after ASL13, the game didn't impress me at all, except for the feat of Motive
the final will be 4:0 or 4:1

I agree, this season gotta be one of the worst we've ever had to date.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4248 Posts
October 22 2024 15:30 GMT
#100
Hopefully at least the Grand Final will deliver some bangers. Sharp has some chances.. but I think Soulkey gonna ultimately prevail, 4-2 and we're going to see an oh-so-elusive rare three-peat.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3470 Posts
October 22 2024 15:38 GMT
#101
On October 23 2024 00:30 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Hopefully at least the Grand Final will deliver some bangers. Sharp has some chances.. but I think Soulkey gonna ultimately prevail, 4-2 and we're going to see an oh-so-elusive rare three-peat.


amen to that, so far it s been subpar. This makes me feel extra bad for Motive since his blunder is the highlight of the season
Horang2 fan
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3686 Posts
October 22 2024 16:10 GMT
#102
Yeaaa TvZ final is perfect. No ZvZ like last time, and no PvP like we could have gotten this time. People should cheer more for not getting a mirror final!
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1209 Posts
October 22 2024 16:33 GMT
#103
On October 23 2024 00:25 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
gotta be one of the worst sets of semi-final games I've ever seen in Brood War.. snoozefest - both of them.

extremely underwhelming season so far overall


I really liked the matches. lot of small details, reads, attempts at interpreting situations and seeing them puzzle together solutions in the moment. was some great chess being played. Most of the SSL has been good. But none of the matches lived up to Speed's TvP games. those were most hype.
JDON MY SOUL!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4248 Posts
October 22 2024 18:19 GMT
#104
On October 23 2024 01:33 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2024 00:25 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
gotta be one of the worst sets of semi-final games I've ever seen in Brood War.. snoozefest - both of them.

extremely underwhelming season so far overall


I really liked the matches. lot of small details, reads, attempts at interpreting situations and seeing them puzzle together solutions in the moment. was some great chess being played. Most of the SSL has been good. But none of the matches lived up to Speed's TvP games. those were most hype.

There were some good games here and there, yes. But not as many as in other seasons. And the playoffs especially felt quite underwhelming.
townhouse
Profile Joined June 2018
United States36 Posts
October 22 2024 18:50 GMT
#105
Even Snow said that he cheesed because he thought he'd lose a standard game vs Barracks. Then he said he'd rather play SK than Light due to the Tesagi maps 🙃.

I guess it's just bad map selection? feels like every season has Terran maps tho. eloboard has it slightly T > P.

at least we should get a good finals. Sharp has a chance due to Tesagi, and certainly has been looking very sharp lately.
"We're here on Earth to fart around" - Vonnegut
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey777 Posts
October 22 2024 19:03 GMT
#106
Sharp has no chance against SK. Sweep coming.
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic947 Posts
October 22 2024 21:41 GMT
#107
Happy that Sharp made it, im really rooting for him a lot.. Such a humble and emotional force. Always liked his playstyle when he got into his "zone".
never too old for starcraft :)
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States370 Posts
October 22 2024 21:52 GMT
#108
double DTs was an interesting decision, wish it could have panned out to be more back and forth instead of just getting completely shut down and countered.

lmao @ eonzerg mentioning once again, "nyoken remember when you tried to tell me drones were better than probes". we saw probes obliterate the 2rax and then also the vulture on monty hall. someone should clip the original and today's comments back to back
bochs
Profile Joined February 2022
119 Posts
October 22 2024 23:59 GMT
#109
Sharp is probably one of SK's favorite prey.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
October 23 2024 00:02 GMT
#110
I'm very glad Sharp has finally found success in the midst of some unfortunate developments in his personal life - he was diagnosed with thyroid cancer and is scheduled for surgery after the season ends, and then concurrently his wife had some issues with her pregnancy

No matter what you think about his gameplay, Sharp's character as a good human being is unquestioned by the pros, and he is well-known as one of the nicest people in the scene (and very nice to foreigners as well)

That being said, I think it's near impossible he takes more than 1 game against Soulkey, but I will definitely rooting for a miracle ending
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1707 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-23 01:03:15
October 23 2024 01:03 GMT
#111
fucking horrible result. horrible semi finals both of them. and going to be a HORRIBLE finals
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8065 Posts
October 23 2024 01:59 GMT
#112
That last game was very, very entertaining. I know it’s not the most popular map, but it provides such interesting play. That multitask and dropship play by Sharp was out of this world.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile163 Posts
October 23 2024 04:10 GMT
#113
On October 23 2024 09:02 redknights wrote:
I'm very glad Sharp has finally found success in the midst of some unfortunate developments in his personal life - he was diagnosed with thyroid cancer and is scheduled for surgery after the season ends, and then concurrently his wife had some issues with her pregnancy

No matter what you think about his gameplay, Sharp's character as a good human being is unquestioned by the pros, and he is well-known as one of the nicest people in the scene (and very nice to foreigners as well)

That being said, I think it's near impossible he takes more than 1 game against Soulkey, but I will definitely rooting for a miracle ending

That sucks. Now I'm only rooting for him harder than before.
It also has to be difficult to practice under such circumstances
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
gingerfluffmuffnr2
Profile Joined February 2024
107 Posts
October 23 2024 09:16 GMT
#114
Shout out to my boys Nyoken and Eonzerg, amazing casting as always!
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
October 23 2024 09:24 GMT
#115
Hard to not like Sharp!
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey688 Posts
October 23 2024 15:16 GMT
#116
On October 23 2024 18:24 reincremate wrote:
Hard to not like Sharp!

Go old school! Sharp, (Snow), (Action)!
Turrican
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
October 24 2024 06:09 GMT
#117
Sharp is legitimately underrated. I think he's got a good shot here. He's smart enough in prepared match situations to come out ahead here. He just beat hero for God sakes. SoulKey is clearly the favorite though
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-24 10:33:02
October 24 2024 10:31 GMT
#118
It was fun being numbere 1 on the LB before this season started. Fuck me sideways now. GG Sharp.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5407 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-24 11:13:28
October 24 2024 11:10 GMT
#119
On October 24 2024 19:31 NoS-Craig wrote:
It was fun being numbere 1 on the LB before this season started. Fuck me sideways now. GG Sharp.

Lmao. There are really only a few dudes who get a high ranking consecutively.

(Even as a hater) I'm honestly surprised at how many votes Rain got on LB. There must be quite some silent Rain fanboys on TL. Because if we check the SSL tier ranking thread by RJB it tells a different story.

Rain got nice results this season, but his games weren't impressive imho.

Ro24 2-1 advance

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Ro16 2-0 advance (almost as many votes as Mini!)

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Ro8 4-0 advance (unreal dif after just a 2-0)

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Ro4 1-4 exit (Similar dif, so I assume people who voted for Rain, voted again after the 4-0)
FBH #1!
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
140 Posts
October 24 2024 19:59 GMT
#120
What a shit show of a season this has been so far - SSL. I can't even force myself to watch the last game. I do respect Rain for being so bald and taking huge risks in the tournament with the builds - this is a trait of a REAL champion, having confidence to make decisions like that, but obviously it can not work for the majority of time.

From what i've seen Rain did not take this SSL seriously. When he said things like ''i am not sure what is my skill level now is'' it seemed like he was not taking this season seriously after all, despite talking about practicing SC and quitting LoL.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-25 00:19:39
October 25 2024 00:18 GMT
#121
On October 25 2024 04:59 Artas1984 wrote:
What a shit show of a season this has been so far - SSL. I can't even force myself to watch the last game. I do respect Rain for being so bald and taking huge risks in the tournament with the builds - this is a trait of a REAL champion, having confidence to make decisions like that, but obviously it can not work for the majority of time.

From what i've seen Rain did not take this SSL seriously. When he said things like ''i am not sure what is my skill level now is'' it seemed like he was not taking this season seriously after all, despite talking about practicing SC and quitting LoL.

Rain was indeed taking this season seriously

From 910's behind-the-scenes video, Rain was genuinely bummed out at losing

Rain said he prepared a ton for the match, skipping several days of streaming to practice (in reality he actually stopped streaming a day earlier than Sharp to practice offline)

Rain explained that he probably overthought and overcooked his strategies during prep which wound up working against him. On reflection he thought he should have just done something more normal on Minstrel but he overthought it
 
Another example of overcooking is Rain saying in Game 4 (Radeon) he would have normally sent his dragoon up the map and scouted Sharp's ridiculous marine cheese early, but he reasoned that because he did DTs twice already, he would play mind games with Sharp and not send the dragoon. Later Sharp comes into the video and says he only sent the marines because he saw the dragoon didn't come, and he correctly predicted that Rain was trying to play mind games due to his earlier DT builds. After hearing that, Rain and Soulkey were impressed and said that was a deserved loss (Rain originally had thought the loss was BS luck)

When pressed by 910 about next participating season, Rain didn't commit to playing

(begins around 16:36 mark)

Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland740 Posts
October 25 2024 10:59 GMT
#122
This season has been insanely fun, games have been great.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2074 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-25 11:32:32
October 25 2024 11:32 GMT
#123
Another example of overcooking is Rain saying in Game 4 (Radeon) he would have normally sent his dragoon up the map and scouted Sharp's ridiculous marine cheese early, but he reasoned that because he did DTs twice already, he would play mind games with Sharp and not send the dragoon. Later Sharp comes into the video and says he only sent the marines because he saw the dragoon didn't come, and he correctly predicted that Rain was trying to play mind games due to his earlier DT builds. After hearing that, Rain and Soulkey were impressed and said that was a deserved loss (Rain originally had thought the loss was BS luck)


Interesting - we don't normally hear about these kind of decisions just by watching.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-25 11:42:32
October 25 2024 11:40 GMT
#124
On October 25 2024 09:18 redknights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2024 04:59 Artas1984 wrote:
What a shit show of a season this has been so far - SSL. I can't even force myself to watch the last game. I do respect Rain for being so bald and taking huge risks in the tournament with the builds - this is a trait of a REAL champion, having confidence to make decisions like that, but obviously it can not work for the majority of time.

From what i've seen Rain did not take this SSL seriously. When he said things like ''i am not sure what is my skill level now is'' it seemed like he was not taking this season seriously after all, despite talking about practicing SC and quitting LoL.

Rain was indeed taking this season seriously

From 910's behind-the-scenes video, Rain was genuinely bummed out at losing

Rain said he prepared a ton for the match, skipping several days of streaming to practice (in reality he actually stopped streaming a day earlier than Sharp to practice offline)

Rain explained that he probably overthought and overcooked his strategies during prep which wound up working against him. On reflection he thought he should have just done something more normal on Minstrel but he overthought it
 
Another example of overcooking is Rain saying in Game 4 (Radeon) he would have normally sent his dragoon up the map and scouted Sharp's ridiculous marine cheese early, but he reasoned that because he did DTs twice already, he would play mind games with Sharp and not send the dragoon. Later Sharp comes into the video and says he only sent the marines because he saw the dragoon didn't come, and he correctly predicted that Rain was trying to play mind games due to his earlier DT builds. After hearing that, Rain and Soulkey were impressed and said that was a deserved loss (Rain originally had thought the loss was BS luck)

When pressed by 910 about next participating season, Rain didn't commit to playing

(begins around 16:36 mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsyILPdbsdY&t=996s

Rain also played more ladder than the others to get his mechanics sharpened and his timings correct. He has 500+- ladder games this season. Sharp was surprisingly one of the less active players for various reasons.

interesting to hear rain went too deep into trying to mind game. implies there is a limit to how hard one can try to mindgame because at some point you will mind game yourself.
JDON MY SOUL!
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden310 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-26 20:09:05
October 26 2024 20:07 GMT
#125
I am so glad that Sharp won and I am rooting for him so hard in the finals!

But as others have said, this is probably the worst season of Starcraft since the return with ASL1.

Are the maps bad? I haven't really gotten a good feel for any of the maps played this season, non have consistently produced good games. And Monty Hall sucks, most other crazy maps have been a lot more fun, like 76 was pretty cool. Even Sparkle was a better map with more interesting and fun games.

I feel like so many players under-performed and played poorly as well this season.

Soulkey is looking like a god damn galaxy brain player this season though and that is cool to see.

Sharp is looking really sharp in his play, he seems to be doing almost everything right. Really impressive play from him.

So it hasn't been all bad and sub par Starcraft is still pretty damn good!

But not really a great season to have has first rebranded tournament!
nah
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2121 Posts
October 28 2024 19:18 GMT
#126
I don't think it's the maps.

For some reason lots of people have been approaching the games perhaps somewhat more strategically than in previous seasons, trying to get an advantage with surprising builds. And the thing is that this is risky. And a small micro error can end the game. So we've seen a bunch of shorter games.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden310 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-29 17:07:57
October 29 2024 17:07 GMT
#127
Yeah, it feels like we've seen an unusual amount of build order wins and losses this season.

I hope next season is better!
nah
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