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.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
December 03 2007 09:50 GMT
#1061
On December 03 2007 08:52 NonY[rC] wrote:
blah blah blah

All in all, Upmagic has his work cut out for him. I think if he made a list of 5 players who he's most afraid to play in a bo5, Jaedong, Stork and Bisu would be on that list :o

I don't think anyone of those players are gonna have an easy time against upmagic than their respective strong suits. Jaedong's probably the only one who poses a significant threat, being the z that he is.
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 03 2007 13:11 GMT
#1062
See how you turned all the significant analysis in my post into "blah blah blah" and then just replied to my summarizing conclusion with your own unsupported opinion? That sucks.

Anyway, I'm already agreeing with your first sentence and I'd never suggest someone will have an easy time in the semifinals or finals of a starleague. I don't know what the hell the "than their respective strong suits" is tacked on the end of that sentence for.

As for your second sentence, that's simply ridiculous for the reasons I put in my previous post. What is your reasoning for thinking that Stork and Bisu don't pose a significant threat? Do you realize that you're supposed to have reasons? And what kind of Z is Jaedong? The kind that has gained a good record in the minor leagues and proleague, but is yet unproven on the only stages that matter -- the starleagues?
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13526 Posts
December 04 2007 05:04 GMT
#1063
I think Stork is in a good position to win this OSL.

Bisu is a tough hurdle, but if can beat him, I think he's definitely a favourite against Up or Jaedong.

Bisu's PvT is still a bit of a worry, so I don't think you could confidently tip him to beat Up. He's a special vs Jaedong though. No way he'd lose there.

I'm hoping for Jaedong vs Stork as I think it will be the closest and most exciting series if the game they had earlier in the season is anything to go by.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
December 04 2007 05:09 GMT
#1064
I want Jaedong to win this OSL.

Therefore, I am cheering for Stork to win that half of the bracket.

Though if Jaedong is able to triumph over Bisu in the finals, it would silence those "Oh, he got lucky because he didn't have to face Bisu" fans. Actually, considering what happened after MSL, I think not.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 04 2007 05:27 GMT
#1065
If Jaedong was to beat Bisu in the finals I think that would be a bigger shock than when Bisu beat Savior.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
December 04 2007 05:31 GMT
#1066
On December 04 2007 14:27 Ace wrote:
If Jaedong was to beat Bisu in the finals I think that would be a bigger shock than when Bisu beat Savior.


No it wouldn't, but it'd still be pretty damn big
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-04 05:34:24
December 04 2007 05:34 GMT
#1067
I want UpMagiC to beat Jaedong with some l33t haxx0r strategy like 4rax firebat into nuke rush, then take out Stork/Bisu with the ShAdOw Ru$h to cement his gosuness.
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Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
December 04 2007 05:48 GMT
#1068
On December 03 2007 18:25 oneofthem wrote:
5 game series is too short to reflect ability. it is basiclaly preparatins and luck. execution should be second nature to these guys, lest some situation comes up. tat these situations could come up is then a matter of preparation an dluck again.


No.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
December 04 2007 05:57 GMT
#1069
I want bisu vs upmagic for the finals, and even though Upmagic is pretty much the coolest player next to boxer, I think I have to cheer for Bisu to take it.

It just wouldn't be right for bisu not to get an OSL title. I mean yeah, he can get it next time, but it would feel 'right' if he won it now because of how well he has played in the past year.

Next starleague I'll cheer all out for Upmagic tho
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.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-04 06:22:34
December 04 2007 06:13 GMT
#1070
On December 03 2007 22:11 NonY[rC] wrote:
See how you turned all the significant analysis in my post into "blah blah blah" and then just replied to my summarizing conclusion with your own unsupported opinion? That sucks.

Anyway, I'm already agreeing with your first sentence and I'd never suggest someone will have an easy time in the semifinals or finals of a starleague. I don't know what the hell the "than their respective strong suits" is tacked on the end of that sentence for.

As for your second sentence, that's simply ridiculous for the reasons I put in my previous post. What is your reasoning for thinking that Stork and Bisu don't pose a significant threat? Do you realize that you're supposed to have reasons? And what kind of Z is Jaedong? The kind that has gained a good record in the minor leagues and proleague, but is yet unproven on the only stages that matter -- the starleagues?


I don't like to revisit old posts too much, but looks like I got no choice.

I wouldn't call that post of yours analysis, much less significant. You stated history matter of factly and in a specific instance, presumptuously.

For example, Bisu's PvT, while good, is completely blown out of proportions by the number of bouts between he and Hwasin. Of the lifetime total PvT games Bisu played, a whopping 1/5 was played against Hwasin, who's a modest TvPer. Oh, and getting 0-2ed by Flash is no simple stroke of luck on Flash's part, Bisu helped too. Calling it getting "cheesed to death" is to overlook Bisu's own highly-risky reaver proxy in game 2 which left him wide open to the attack.

So yeah, I'd chip and I'd chip in BIG on Stork's PvT over Bisu's anyday of the year, every year.

Back to topic: "Respective strong suit" is rhetorical enough. UpMagiC's the kind of strategic, free-thinking player to knock out favorites and render statistics irrelevant. He is the definitive dark horse. What I'm saying here is that regardless of these three's respective vT, the best determination of UpMagiC's chances is gonna come from himself.

Lastly, I quoted the part I most disagreed with. I think it's the complete opposite - UpMagiC is the one player people are not gonna wanna face. And my grasp of Up's vP puts his chances way above his vZ.

If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
December 04 2007 06:31 GMT
#1071
On December 04 2007 14:31 Seraphim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2007 14:27 Ace wrote:
If Jaedong was to beat Bisu in the finals I think that would be a bigger shock than when Bisu beat Savior.


No it wouldn't, but it'd still be pretty damn big


lol im not so sure
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 04 2007 07:25 GMT
#1072
On December 04 2007 14:48 Aphelion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2007 18:25 oneofthem wrote:
5 game series is too short to reflect ability. it is basiclaly preparatins and luck. execution should be second nature to these guys, lest some situation comes up. tat these situations could come up is then a matter of preparation an dluck again.


No.
Yes.
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